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On 12/8/2024 at 3:10 PM, Rex Kramer said:

As far as what I want?  I want a return to Bush

Lulz.

Yearning for the gold ole days with W. So you prefer fascism lite in America.... and a massive war criminal abroad ... destroying two countries of brown people ... and installing torture regimes approved by the majority of Americans. 

W paved the way for the full-on fascism of Trump. 

Amazing how many Surly posters are Bush lovers and can't see the clear road from W to Trump. Just fuckin' amazing. 

And now your hero W is an artist.

Has the Dallas Museum of Art given him an exhibition, yet? So y'all can keep worshipping that Trump lite idiot.

 

 

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Wow, didn’t even see that Bush comment earlier.

Yes, Bush was a war criminal who courted a financial catastrophe with his slavish devotion to Reaganomics. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to return to that shit.

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The funniest thing about it is just how empty it is. “I want a return to Bush” doesn’t mean he wants a return to like, bungling Iraq, Katrina, and causing the greatest economic calamity since the depression. It’s just “I would like to go back to a time where I didn’t worry about things because I was young and I think the fact that’s changed is Democrats’ fault.”

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3 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

Surly posters are Bush lovers and can't see the clear road from W to Trump.

And before anyone chimes in that "no one saw fascism coming after W." Full Stop.

-- There were plenty who did at UT even when he became governor.... those outside of McCombs, Engineering, and the future corporate lawyers at the Law School ... and 98% of the rest of society.

-- Good ole American Exceptionalism, post-9/11 patriotism, and 24/7 sane-washing from the media succeeded in marginalizing any serious resistance.

But, in my artsy fartsy worlds and philosophy degreed crowd, almost everyone knew W was big trouble: 

-- As in fascism lite, general idiocy, and  providing Christian Nationalism's seat at the table. A very BIG seat! 

 

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11 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

And before anyone chimes in that "no one saw fascism coming after W." Full Stop.

-- There were plenty who did at UT even when he became governor.... those outside of McCombs, Engineering, and the future corporate lawyers at the Law School ... and 98% of the rest of society.

-- Good ole American Exceptionalism, post-9/11 patriotism, and 24/7 sane-washing from the media succeeded in marginalizing any serious resistance.

But, in my artsy fartsy worlds and philosophy degreed crowd, almost everyone knew W was big trouble: 

-- As in fascism lite, general idiocy, and  providing Christian Nationalism's seat at the table. A very BIG seat! 

 

Hell his leading spokesman in the media was literally saying that his network will consider anyone who protests the war “an enemy of the state.” That’s about as faschy as it gets 

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Oh we won’t ever agree on Bush. I won’t comment on Iraq, but everything else on this page is just dead wrong. Fascism gets thrown around WAY too much, even with respect to Trump, and it’s laughable with Bush. I mentioned Bush specifically regarding his immigration policies. And the fact that he absolutely hates Trump. 

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7 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

and causing the greatest economic calamity since the depression.

You mean Barney Frank.

 

 2005 Said Barney Frank on September 25, 2003: "I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing."

 

 

And in one of the greatest ironies of the last century the solution to the problems he created was.... Dodd-Frank...

 

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2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

You mean Barney Frank.

 

 2005 Said Barney Frank on September 25, 2003: "I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing."

 

 

And in one of the greatest ironies of the last century the solution to the problems he created was.... Dodd-Frank...

 

Some combo of Greenspan, Clinton, Bush, banks, Phil Gramm, Barney Frank, mortgage companies, Wall St., and the general American population. To state it was Bush’s fault is like saying inflation was Biden’s fault. It’s actually dumber. 

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I hate myself that I hate-watch this. This GOP twat is something too — Erin Perrine.

Edit: oh, she’s somehow affiliated with Ted Cruz. Of course.

Edit edit: This bitch sucks.

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Maher's one on one guest tonight: Kid Rock. 

I stopped watching awhile back, but I might be tempted to tune in to that, just to witness the absurdity. With everything happening, that's who he's booking. Kid Rock. 

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18 hours ago, Red Five said:

Maher's one on one guest tonight: Kid Rock. 

I stopped watching awhile back, but I might be tempted to tune in to that, just to witness the absurdity. With everything happening, that's who he's booking. Kid Rock. 

fucking really? they have been blasting all the streaming channels with his unfunny comedy special trailer and then his nauseating promos both-sidesing this shit is enough to make Ana hard. all that and they get kid fucking rock? clown show extreme

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On 12/12/2024 at 2:39 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Some combo of Greenspan, Clinton, Bush, banks, Phil Gramm, Barney Frank, mortgage companies, Wall St., and the general American population. To state it was Bush’s fault is like saying inflation was Biden’s fault. It’s actually dumber. 

What was Bush's fault was pushing for big tax cuts and running up debt, assuring us all that the good times would last forever and we would grow out of it and nothing bad would ever happen. Because that is how economies work. They grow forever and there are never crashes or recessions or anything.

Though, even there, that is not really Bush's fault. And frankly that is the point, Bush wasn't some great leader out there steering the ship with radical new ideas, he was entirely in favor of right wing orthodoxy at the time. He was only a cipher.

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2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

What was Bush's fault was pushing for big tax cuts and running up debt, assuring us all that the good times would last forever and we would grow out of it and nothing bad would ever happen. Because that is how economies work. They grow forever and there are never crashes or recessions or anything.

Though, even there, that is not really Bush's fault. And frankly that is the point, Bush wasn't some great leader out there steering the ship with radical new ideas, he was entirely in favor of right wing orthodoxy at the time. He was only a cipher.

Clinton and Bush aren’t really at fault. It was a collective failure, but they’re not businessmen, and they’re not the head of the Fed. They got elected in part to keep the good times rolling. In fact, nobody will remember it this way but I think Bush’s Paulsen and Bernanke did a very handy job of getting us out of the shit. 

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Maher's one on one guest tonight: Kid Rock. 
I stopped watching awhile back, but I might be tempted to tune in to that, just to witness the absurdity. With everything happening, that's who he's booking. Kid Rock. 

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On 2/14/2025 at 7:13 PM, Red Five said:

Maher's one on one guest tonight: Kid Rock. 

I stopped watching awhile back, but I might be tempted to tune in to that, just to witness the absurdity. With everything happening, that's who he's booking. Kid Rock. 

I’ve been telling y’all for 25 years that Maher is a world class dipshit. None of this is the least bit surprising. That guy’s brain is made of silly putty. 

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On 2/17/2025 at 5:11 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Clinton and Bush aren’t really at fault. It was a collective failure, but they’re not businessmen, and they’re not the head of the Fed. They got elected in part to keep the good times rolling. In fact, nobody will remember it this way but I think Bush’s Paulsen and Bernanke did a very handy job of getting us out of the shit. 

I vaguely remember thinking Bernanke was competent, but what do I know about central banking?

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