"all able-bodied men please come to the front of the plane for an emergency."

[hayden_horn 11,362]

15 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Sigh. If I had implied weed was the cause of psychotic behavior then you might have a point. For every off their meds or abusing them individual, or on something else for that matter, there’s some dipshit, low grade stoner smelling of MJ who can’t remember if the terminal carpet also suffices as a urinal. The larger point being that’s its not people showing up boozed to the airport as the poster I replied to suggested. 

The drop off areas of damn near any airport has the distinctive skunk ass smell of  marijuana these days. And that has not remotely been the case in the past. I’m sure plenty of other drugs are being used too. 

i would bet against weed. it's xanax plus booze plus mental illness. 

[midtown 3,346]

Just now, hayden_horn said:

it's xanax plus booze plus mental illness. 

This is not new and doesn't explain the rash of unruly behavior over the last few years..   Some of the uptick is that everyone has a camera and social media so every incident is documented publicly.  

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

23 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Sigh. If I had implied weed was the cause of psychotic behavior then you might have a point. For every off their meds or abusing them individual, or on something else for that matter, there’s some dipshit, low grade stoner smelling of MJ who can’t remember if the terminal carpet also suffices as a urinal. The larger point being that’s its not people showing up boozed to the airport as the poster I replied to suggested. 

The drop off areas of damn near any airport has the distinctive skunk ass smell of  marijuana these days. And that has not remotely been the case in the past. I’m sure plenty of other drugs are being used too. 

Your comment about legalized drugs seemed to indicate weed, as it's the only recreational drug that's been legalized since the end of prohibition.  Never seen a stoner so out of it they confused something for a urinal either...  That's the realm of alcoholics my flying friend.  Now forgetting where something or somewhere  is or big stupid stoned... sure seen that, done that...... siiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhh........ and I'm gonna throw in a harrumph.....

Edited June 13, 2021 by Onboard 2.0

[mdmost 43,004]

3 hours ago, slorch said:

Husband should have accepted his blessings in not having to listen to the wife...

Yeah, I never sit next to my wife. We're always across from each other on the aisle. If the kids are with us, one of us takes them for one leg while the other gets to sit alone. Then we reverse it on the way back. Of course, one downside to that is getting someone hefty next to you in that middle seat. 

[DCA_HORN 725]

Yeah, I never sit next to my wife. We're always across from each other on the aisle. If the kids are with us, one of us takes them for one leg while the other gets to sit alone. Then we reverse it on the way back. Of course, one downside to that is getting someone hefty next to you in that middle seat. 

In fact you purchased the ticket for Mrs. mdmost.

Doesn't mean I want her sitting next to me does it?

[mdmost 43,004]

7 minutes ago, DCA_HORN said:

In fact you purchased the ticket for Mrs. mdmost.

Doesn't mean I want her sitting next to me does it?

I guess I'm missing your attempt at comedy here. My wife doesn't want to talk to me either during a flight. She wants to sit and read her book or magazine. She's not striking up conversations with random strangers. Get your own aisle seat if you don't want to worry about who you're in between. 

Edited June 13, 2021 by mdmost

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Sigh. If I had implied weed was the cause of psychotic behavior then you might have a point. For every off their meds or abusing them individual, or on something else for that matter, there’s some dipshit, low grade stoner smelling of MJ who can’t remember if the terminal carpet also suffices as a urinal. The larger point being that’s its not people showing up boozed to the airport as the poster I replied to suggested. 
The drop off areas of damn near any airport has the distinctive skunk ass smell of  marijuana these days. And that has not remotely been the case in the past. I’m sure plenty of other drugs are being used too. 

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[midtown 3,346]

Btw.  Airlines.  You aren't innocent in this issue.  You've made flying such a freaking beating with your fees, seat pitches, and legroom etc.   Treat your customers like cattle and don't be surprised if  they behave like cattle.

Edited June 13, 2021 by midtown

[Genco 3,041]

39 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I guess I'm missing your attempt at comedy here. My wife doesn't want to talk to me either during a flight. She wants to sit and read her book or magazine. She's not striking up conversations with random strangers. Get your own aisle seat if you don't want to worry about who you're in between. 

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[royiv 9,325]

24 minutes ago, midtown said:

Btw.  Airlines.  You aren't innocent in this issue.  You've made flying such a freaking beating with your fees, seat pitches, and legroom etc.   Treat your customers like cattle and don't be surprised if  they behave like cattle.

This. Stuff as many people as possible into a narrow metal tube and make them super uncomfortable. Don’t be overly surprised when someone inevitably boils over and loses their shit. Doesn’t excuse the shitty behavior, but it doesn't mean that it’s not unexpected. Add in the fact that people haven’t been in crowded spaces for over a year and you’re going to have this sort of thing happen.

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5 minutes ago, royiv said:

This. Stuff as many people as possible into a narrow metal tube and make them super uncomfortable. Don’t be overly surprised when someone inevitably boils over and loses their shit. Doesn’t excuse the shitty behavior, but it doesn't mean that it’s not unexpected. Add in the fact that people haven’t been in crowded spaces for over a year and you’re going to have this sort of thing happen.

I still remember when you were treated pretty damn good even if you were sitting in the back. It's dehumanized now.

[Bobby_Batronic 1,994]

1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Your comment about legalized drugs seemed to indicate weed, as it's the only recreational drug that's been legalized since the end of prohibition.  Never seen a stoner so out of it they confused something for a urinal either...  That's the realm of alcoholics my flying friend.  Now forgetting where something or somewhere  is or big stupid stoned... sure seen that, done that...... siiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhh........ and I'm gonna throw in a harrumph.....

I’m relatively confident that damn near anything goes in say Oregon. Having said that, if you had read the entirety of the posts weed was only a part of it. I mentioned off their meds or abusing them, this is often the case when someone is losing it, and weed is a well known gateway drug. I think it’s a combination thereof. Regardless, it has a distinctive smell, and it’s nearly universally present in my experiences with disruptive passengers. 

I’ve had these conversations with coworkers several times before. The tie one on and go fly model of surviving airline service and seat pitches seems to be falling out of favor for showing up blazed and worse. 

As an aside, you will rule the world if any one of you MF’s figures out how to make weed smell like menthol, a swisher sweet or the like instead of microwaved skunk anus. 

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2 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

As an aside, you will rule the world if any one of you MF’s figures out how to make weed smell like menthol

I will kill the man that does that. It will be my mission.

Edited June 13, 2021 by RPM

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

I didn’t know Dan Patrick posted here. Cool cool.

[Captainant 27,680]

21 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

weed is a well known gateway drug

lmfao, ok boomer

[GringoSalado 1,651]

So an off-duty FA, wearing a helmet and knee pads, accuses seatmate of being a hijacker, commandeers the PA, then tackles errbody and surly is all, "was it the wacky tabbacky?"

 

 

[AUS-97HORN 11,809]

im the first one who mentioned drugs in the thread and the first reply to me somehow  went to 420 as to what I was talking about.   

 

holy shit... I live in austin people, im so used to MJ being around I dont even consider that a drug anymore... my point was about basically anything fucking harder than MJ.... the rest of the anti/pro MJ crowd ran with most of the rest of the posts. 

 

guess I need to just say hard drugs next time... 

Edited June 13, 2021 by AUS-97HORN

[conVINCEd 21,469]

You ain’t getting away with shit on an airplane post-9/11.  You will be crowd-sourced by the other passengers very quickly.

[TwiceHorn 31,496]

19 hours ago, slorch said:

Prison.  Yes.  This behavior is way the fuck more out of line than having some pot in your pocket.

 

Not sure how I'd react, but if I took it as a threat to our lives, either perp or myself or both are going to get fucked up.

First off, most plane misbehavior is a federal offense and subject to a hefty fine.  And I don't imagine most of them are welcome to fly for quite some time.

But then we have the prison/deterrence fallacy.

Generally speaking, a person who does this is off their rocker, either full time or as a result of drink or drugs.  Neither type is going to be particularly deterred by whatever consequences lie in store for them.  The mentally disturbed, for fairly obvious reasons, and, I rather doubt that most of the chemically impaired are really thinking things out in such a way that they intend to disrupt a flight or suffer the consequences.  It's a product of the loss of their faculties.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

First off, most plane misbehavior is a federal offense and subject to a hefty fine.  And I don't imagine most of them are welcome to fly for quite some time.

But then we have the prison/deterrence fallacy.

Generally speaking, a person who does this is off their rocker, either full time or as a result of drink or drugs.  Neither type is going to be particularly deterred by whatever consequences lie in store for them.  The mentally disturbed, for fairly obvious reasons, and, I rather doubt that most of the chemically impaired are really thinking things out in such a way that they intend to disrupt a flight or suffer the consequences.  It's a product of the loss of their faculties.

Fallacy?  I don't care about deterrence.  It's too late for that. Zero %  recidivism is the goal.

[TwiceHorn 31,496]

Just now, slorch said:

Fallacy?  I don't care about deterrence.  It's too late for that. Zero %  recidivism is the goal.

Well, then you better find some solution other than prison.  Because you probably just took a mentally ill or chemically dependent person, made them a virtually unemployable felon, and made them infinitely more likely to repeat the base behavior of being untreated mentally ill and abusing substances.

 

Edited June 13, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, then you better find some solution other than prison.

The point is not to imprison everyone.  Some people just need a fucking attention getter for bitchass behavior.

Then others want to enable said behavior by excusing it or searching for some underlying reason.  IDGAF.  Act right if you're going to be in public.

Edited June 13, 2021 by slorch

[Bobby_Batronic 1,994]

 

9 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

im the first one who mentioned drugs in the article and someone immediatley went to 420 as to what I was talking about.   

 

holy shit... I live in austin people, im so used to MJ being around I dont even consider that a drug anymore... my point was about basically anything fucking harder than MJ.... the rest of the anti/pro MJ crowd ran with most of the rest of the posts. 

 

guess I need to just say hard drugs next time... 

No, what happened is the MJ crowd got butthurt about their drug smelling. IDGAF if you use it or not, but I don’t want to smell it anymore than I want to sniff a used ashtray. 

Ive just noticed that people don’t seem to be getting boozed to get by on an airplanes anymore, and that drugs, medicinal, recreational or harder for the triggered leaf heads, seems to be the cause. And that correlates nicely with smelling people toking up prior to checking in my experience.

No, potheads only aren’t charging flightdecks. Disruptive passengers doesn’t just mean the idiot throwing punches or making terroristic threats. That’s a very low percentage of the folks getting kicked off planes or met by law enforcement at the destination. 

FA’s going crazy?  You don’t know enough FA’s if that surprises you. 

Edited June 13, 2021 by Bobby_Batronic

[mdmost 43,004]

1 hour ago, Genco said:

Refer to his avatar

Dammit

[956 Worldwide 34,715]

1 hour ago, midtown said:

Btw.  Airlines.  You aren't innocent in this issue.  You've made flying such a freaking beating with your fees, seat pitches, and legroom etc.   Treat your customers like cattle and don't be surprised if  they behave like cattle.

Yeah, this is real. Domestic flying almost anywhere is a nonstop ass kicking.  

The absolute worst flight I flew on was a British Air (then) intra-EU flight. BA has gone to an all inflight purchase model and I was flying with six year old and four year old.  Typical connection, I didn’t have time to stop for snacks and drinks after toilets, hustling through security, etc.  I asked for some water and they quoted me some bullshit like three pounds for a bottled water.  I told the FA I just wanted a couple cups of water for the kids, she rolled her eyes and said she’d bring them after the meal and drink pay service finished. She did, and then stood next to our aisle. After I said “thank you,” she said “I’ll be waiting here sir, to make sure only your children drink this. If you’d like water that will be three pounds.”

I have to wonder what doing a job like that does to someone over time. 

 

[DaysOff 7,951]

You fucking people. A la carte pricing is what you asked for. You can thank swa, that most of y'all beat off to, for the domestic market service level.

[GringoSalado 1,651]

That hit a nerve

[TKthunder2 4,992]

2 hours ago, midtown said:

Btw.  Airlines.  You aren't innocent in this issue.  You've made flying such a freaking beating with your fees, seat pitches, and legroom etc.   Treat your customers like cattle and don't be surprised if  they behave like cattle.

http://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/double-decker-airplane-cabin-concepts-crystal-cabin-awards

[Brothahorn 10,087]

Decrying toxic masculinity is all fun and games until you need that masculine asshole to be toxic.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Decrying toxic masculinity is all fun and games until you need that masculine asshole to be toxic.

I saw your other post about this and I suppose I see what you are getting at. But how is being able bodied toxic?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,515]

7 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

If you're implying weed, you can stop right there. I have never seen or heard of an actual documented case of weed causing psychotic behavior.....

Cue someone posting a documented case of weed causing psychotic behavior.

Weed + schizophrenia is a bad combo. Now whether it causes the behavior or enhances it, no idea.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I saw your other post about this and I suppose I see what you are getting at. But how is being able bodied toxic?

why did they not also ask for able bodied women, might be the point.  All of the sudden, the Neanderthal is useful.

Geico commercial opportunity...

Edited June 13, 2021 by slorch

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

why did they not also ask for able bodied women, might be the point.  All of the sudden, the Neanderthal is useful.
Geico commercial opportunity...

I can’t speak for the pilot. But I am sure no one subduing the guy would have been offended if a woman jumped into help.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I can’t speak for the pilot. But I am sure no one subduing the guy would have been offended if a woman jumped into help.

Of course not.  It's just slightly amusing how some of the semantics and bullshit go flying out the window when the shit hits the fan.

Edited June 13, 2021 by slorch

[956 Worldwide 34,715]

3 hours ago, DaysOff said:

You fucking people. A la carte pricing is what you asked for. You can thank swa, that most of y'all beat off to, for the domestic market service level.

Wat? At what point did SWA stop offering two checked bags, a coke/coffee/water and pretzels in their fare? Oh yeah, and no change fees or cancellation fees.

Clearly they forced all the other airlines into their fee bullshit. 

[Brothahorn 10,087]

I can’t speak for the pilot. But I am sure no one subduing the guy would have been offended if a woman jumped into help.

No definitely not. And I won't say a woman couldn't have helped. But the women and gimps who talk about TM would not have been the one to step up.

And it's not a political thing but more of a generational, close mind thing.

And I will acknowledge that I've been drinking and cooking all day. So I don't remember another post.

[atomheartbevo 89,730]

4 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I have to wonder what doing a job like that does to someone over time. 

You don't have to wonder - that's what started this whole thread.

[Homesickhorn 2,202]

I saw your other post about this and I suppose I see what you are getting at. But how is being able bodied toxic?

Skipping leg day is toxic as fuck bruh.

[Js1 85,413]

56 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Wat? At what point did SWA stop offering two checked bags, a coke/coffee/water and pretzels in their fare? Oh yeah, and no change fees or cancellation fees.

Clearly they forced all the other airlines into their fee bullshit. 

No idea where that came from. SWA ain’t doing that nickel and dime shit. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12,301]

5 hours ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

I’m relatively confident that damn near anything goes in say Oregon. Having said that, if you had read the entirety of the posts weed was only a part of it. I mentioned off their meds or abusing them, this is often the case when someone is losing it, and weed is a well known gateway drug. I think it’s a combination thereof. Regardless, it has a distinctive smell, and it’s nearly universally present in my experiences with disruptive passengers. 

I’ve had these conversations with coworkers several times before. The tie one on and go fly model of surviving airline service and seat pitches seems to be falling out of favor for showing up blazed and worse. 

As an aside, you will rule the world if any one of you MF’s figures out how to make weed smell like menthol, a swisher sweet or the like instead of microwaved skunk anus. 

is this a bit?

[Wulaw Horn 19,099]

14 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Seemed like this shit was going even before the rona. Late 2019 I was on a flight from DCA to SEA and this mid-twenties girl dressed like a slob (no pics and that’s fine believe me) gets on dragging a giant unicorn pillow, laptop, carryon, purse, etc. Sits in my row, I’m in window and a guy maybe in his early thirties is in middle. A very clearly gay flight attendant tells her she needs to stow the pillow and shit because she is blocking the aisle and seat row. She rolls her eyes and puts on headphones. He comes back by, tell her again, she says “I want this with me.”  And starts texting someone.

Flight attendant comes back a third time, she’s still texting, she calls him a “f—-t” and still refuses to do anything. Fourth time he comes back with a giant cop who tells her to GTFO the plane. She points at me and the dude next to me to vouch for her that she “didn’t do anything,” but my name’s Bennett and I ain’t in it.  The cop escorted her off with her dumbass pillow and her shouting homophobic shit the whole way.

Sorry for partying? 

[Biff Tannen 45,691]

16 hours ago, RPM said:

I don't know what that's from, but that's Malarkey.

[RPM 26,322]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

I don't know what that's from, but that's Malarkey.

The Orville

[ztejas 43,476]

On 6/12/2021 at 1:12 PM, Patricio Swayze said:

It ain’t weed. Alcohol is one hell of a drug. Maybe coke or meth snorted. But my money would be on alcohol.

My worst panic attacks ever have been from weed. But not the type of panic attack that would result in one wanting to hijack a plane. Maybe "I need to get off this plane" but not "I'm going to assault some flight attendants".

My worst psychoses have definitely been alcohol induced. It is sure as shit one hell of a drug. Throw in some xanax and shit can get real weird. I've heard plenty of crazy meth stories, too, but have never done it.

Coke makes me do some wild shit but I've always found it keeps me sharp enough that I'm not losing touch with reality or tripping balls. This doesn't sound like a case of cocaine use at all.

Edited June 14, 2021 by ztejas

[52-80 19,163]

On 6/13/2021 at 12:31 AM, jkates said:

They didn't ask for able-bodied women?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

its an outrage the the flight officers were not gender-inclusive

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,515]

With enough flights and people in the air everyday, I imagine there is always some daily incident occurring. The mask mandate does appear to have added an additional point of contention for some. I bet there are a few people that openly plan to wear a mask up to the point the plane leaves the ground, and then they will take them off. "Can't toss me out"

These should be the rules:

• you get 1 warning to wear the mask.
• second warning, you're banned from the airline including any return flight. Open seating with SWA creates problems identifying the passenger but not impossible.
• third warning is that the plane lands, perhaps even at the destination, and the airlines requests law enforcement.

[kevwun 15,798]

19 hours ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

 

No, what happened is the MJ crowd got butthurt about their drug smelling. IDGAF if you use it or not, but I don’t want to smell it anymore than I want to sniff a used ashtray. 

Ive just noticed that people don’t seem to be getting boozed to get by on an airplanes anymore, and that drugs, medicinal, recreational or harder for the triggered leaf heads, seems to be the cause. And that correlates nicely with smelling people toking up prior to checking in my experience.

No, potheads only aren’t charging flightdecks. Disruptive passengers doesn’t just mean the idiot throwing punches or making terroristic threats. That’s a very low percentage of the folks getting kicked off planes or met by law enforcement at the destination. 

FA’s going crazy?  You don’t know enough FA’s if that surprises you. 

When you get finished watching Reefer Madness, look up edibles.

[Js1 85,413]

We’ve straight up forgotten how to act on airplanes

 

[closetohumping 17,449]

30 minutes ago, Js1 said:

We’ve straight up forgotten how to act on airplanes

 

I've picked up many a dates (female ones) via the elbow rest.

[gsoda3 3,263]

15 hours ago, Js1 said:

No idea where that came from. SWA ain’t doing that nickel and dime shit. 

a united employee.