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  On 3/19/2025 at 6:13 PM, gsoda3 said:

It's been happening in China since they've had their industrial revolution.  They don't care. If you mean when does it become a regular occurrence outside of their borders where they'll face more scrutiny or accountability... it's also been occurring for a while and will continue to happen as long as they're in Africa.

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I know. This, combined with the energy intensity to mine lithium, are totally ignored in the social benefits of EVs and the economic advantage if EVs relative to ICEs. But don’t let that deny @Brisketexanan opportunity to get into hysterics about our EPA. 

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  On 3/19/2025 at 7:47 PM, Rex Kramer said:

I know. This, combined with the energy intensity to mine lithium, are totally ignored in the social benefits of EVs and the economic advantage if EVs relative to ICEs. But don’t let that deny @Brisketexanan opportunity to get into hysterics about our EPA. 

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Don't worry.  We'll be "re-shoring" all of that mining, with the same level of environmental enforcement you see in China and Africa.  That's how they want it, it's a key to making such activities "economically competitive" -- you just "remove all unnecessary regulation" (which is defined as....any regulation that costs money to comply with).

I've never pretended otherwise when it comes to the costs of battery production for EVs -- it's why incentives have applied to account for harder-to-price externalities like reducing carbon emissions.  Nobody reasonable is arguing that it isn't more expensive to produce an EV than an ICE car.

We're just going to take care of that.....by reducing costs wherever we can, and you and I well know that complying with regulations -- including the most common-sense regulations you can imagine, like "don't dump your mining waste in the drinking water supply" -- cost money to comply with.  Well, enough of that bullshit.

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  On 3/19/2025 at 7:58 PM, Brisketexan said:

Don't worry.  We'll be "re-shoring" all of that mining, with the same level of environmental enforcement you see in China and Africa.  That's how they want it, it's a key to making such activities "economically competitive" -- you just "remove all unnecessary regulation" (which is defined as....any regulation that costs money to comply with).

I've never pretended otherwise when it comes to the costs of battery production for EVs -- it's why incentives have applied to account for harder-to-price externalities like reducing carbon emissions.  Nobody reasonable is arguing that it isn't more expensive to produce an EV than an ICE car.

We're just going to take care of that.....by reducing costs wherever we can, and you and I well know that complying with regulations -- including the most common-sense regulations you can imagine, like "don't dump your mining waste in the drinking water supply" -- cost money to comply with.  Well, enough of that bullshit.

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Meanwhile in China….

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  On 3/19/2025 at 8:59 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Meanwhile in China….

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...they are doing the things that we're going to adopt to make the US more competitive with China.  China....where they pay slave wages and don't have environmental laws.

We're not fighting AGAINST China.

We're fighting to BECOME China.

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  On 3/19/2025 at 9:06 PM, Brisketexan said:

...they are doing the things that we're going to adopt to make the US more competitive with China.  China....where they pay slave wages and don't have environmental laws.

We're not fighting AGAINST China.

We're fighting to BECOME China.

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shhhhh.. Dont bring up Elon and his connections.

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  On 3/19/2025 at 9:06 PM, Brisketexan said:

...they are doing the things that we're going to adopt to make the US more competitive with China.  China....where they pay slave wages and don't have environmental laws.

We're not fighting AGAINST China.

We're fighting to BECOME China.

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JFC take it to the goddamn cloak room you half-witted ledge-jumping gooftard.

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Nothing about that is political, but it's not particularly helpful in driving conversation. 

Please try to stop just flinging shit everywhere and actually be productive with discussion. 

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  On 3/19/2025 at 9:52 PM, immamac said:

Nothing about that is political, but it's not particularly helpful in driving conversation. 

Please try to stop just flinging shit everywhere and actually be productive with discussion. 

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This Daily Texan thread-- which is supposed to be a "news" thread about the goings-on in China-- has been coopted by a known ledge-jumping raving lunatic pushing his own political ideology and agenda, over and over and over again. 

I'm going to have to disagree that the comments and the conversation aren't political.

The thread-shitting is tired and incredibly annoying.  I don't ever go to the cloak room because I have no desire for a political discussion on this message board forum.  But I have to imagine there are plenty of threads discussing these exact topics, over there, in the appropriate forum for them.

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  On 3/19/2025 at 9:56 PM, utee94 said:

This Daily Texan thread-- which is supposed to be a "news" thread about the goings-on in China-- has been coopted by a known ledge-jumping raving lunatic pushing his own political ideology and agenda, over and over and over again. 

I'm going to have to disagree that the comments and the conversation aren't political.

The thread-shitting is tired and incredibly annoying.  I don't ever go to the cloak room because I have no desire for a political discussion on this message board forum.  But I have to imagine there are plenty of threads discussing these exact topics, over there, in the appropriate forum for them.

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I'm sorry you don't know what politics are, but it definitely is thread shitting which is why I came in here to say stop thread shitting. 

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The things China is doing that wind up being the most intense topics are going to be geopolitical in nature.

This will be of little significance to what China does or does not do on a worldwide basis, but The Solomon Islands have a leader that is decidedly pro-China. They came in and built a stadium for the country even though The Solomons have no real way to maintain it. Obviously it’s buying influence just like America does, but this troubles me quite a bit.

Guadalcanal is the site of one of the most decisive and bloody series of land, sky and sea battles that happened in WWII. That land is hallowed ground for the Americans who gave their last full measure to stop Japanese expansion of their co-prosperity sphere in East Asia. I will live in that country and I want to work to make sure that the Americans who fought there as well as the native Solomon Islanders who helped America by being our eyes and ears on the ground, as well as the people that hauled injured soldiers for miles on stretchers, to one day have a museum worthy of what they accomplished. These people sacrificed themselves willingly for something they didn’t even have a word for. They called Guadalcanal “The Big Death” because of what they witnessed.

It really bothers me how little America cares about what happened there. We should be stepping up and getting China right out of Melanesia and Micronesia entirely and doing right by people that had our back when we needed all hands on deck, even if they weren’t American. Seeing China buy influence right in the backyard of sacred ground for Americans just really gets to me.

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  On 3/20/2025 at 9:12 AM, UpperWestside said:
The things China is doing that wind up being the most intense topics are going to be geopolitical in nature.
This will be of little significance to what China does or does not do on a worldwide basis, but The Solomon Islands have a leader that is decidedly pro-China. They came in and built a stadium for the country even though The Solomons have no real way to maintain it. Obviously it’s buying influence just like America does, but this troubles me quite a bit.
Guadalcanal is the site of one of the most decisive and bloody series of land, sky and sea battles that happened in WWII. That land is hallowed ground for the Americans who gave their last full measure to stop Japanese expansion of their co-prosperity sphere in East Asia. I will live in that country and I want to work to make sure that the Americans who fought there as well as the native Solomon Islanders who helped America by being our eyes and ears on the ground, as well as the people that hauled injured soldiers for miles on stretchers, to one day have a museum worthy of what they accomplished. These people sacrificed themselves willingly for something they didn’t even have a word for. They called Guadalcanal “The Big Death” because of what they witnessed.
It really bothers me how little America cares about what happened there. We should be stepping up and getting China right out of Melanesia and Micronesia entirely and doing right by people that had our back when we needed all hands on deck, even if they weren’t American. Seeing China buy influence right in the backyard of sacred ground for Americans just really gets to me.

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Meanwhile, in China, they’re celebrating.

Elon Musk’s DOGE cuts are leaving a vacuum that China can fill.
When President Trump announced on Friday that the United States would move ahead with a long-debated project to build a stealthy next-generation fighter jet, the message to China was clear: The United States plans to spend tens of billions of dollars over the next decade, probably far longer, to contain Beijing’s ability to dominate the skies over the Pacific.

But here on earth, the reality has been very different.

As the Department of Government Efficiency roars through agencies across government, its targets have included some of the organizations that Beijing worried about most, or actively sought to subvert. And, as with much that Elon Musk’s DOGE has dismembered, there has been no published study of the costs and benefits of losing those capabilities — and no discussion of how the roles, arguably as important as a manned fighter, might be replaced.

On the list of capabilities on life support is Radio Free Asia, a 29-year-old nonprofit that estimates its news broadcasts reach 60 million people in Asia each week, from China to Myanmar, and across the Pacific islands where the United States has been struggling to counter China’s narratives about the world. It furloughed all but 75 of its Washington staff members on Friday, trying to stay on the air while court cases develop on Trump officials’ moves to defund U.S. government-supported media.

At the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth eliminated the Office of Net Assessment, an internal think-tank. With an annual budget that accounted for a few seconds of Pentagon spending each year, the office tried to think ahead about the challenges the United States would face a decade or two in the future — such as the new capabilities of artificial intelligence, autonomous weapons and the hidden vulnerabilities of supply chains for military contractors.

It was a revered institution, what a Wall Street Journal editorial this past week called “The Office that Won the Cold War.” Mr. Hegseth said in a statement that it would be reconstituted in some unspecified way “in alignment with the Department’s strategic priorities,” though its value was that it challenged conventional thinking about those priorities.

Over at the Department of Homeland Security, a series of cyberdefenses have been stripped away, at a moment when China’s state-backed hackers have been more successful than at any time in recent memory.

Among those dissolved, at least for the time being, is the Cyber Safety Review Board, created on the model of the National Transportation Safety Board, which examines aircraft accidents and tries to extract lessons learned. The cybersecurity board was just beginning to take testimony on how Chinese intelligence bored deep inside America’s largest telecommunications firms, including the system the Justice Department uses to monitor its “lawful intercept” system, which places wiretaps on people suspected of committing crimes or spying — including Chinese spies.

Now the board has been disbanded. No one at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency seems able to say what has happened to the investigation into one of the most successful penetrations of American networks, or who is now responsible for figuring out why American telecommunications firms were caught unawares, for more than a year, by China’s Ministry of State Security.

The list goes on, more evidence that in its first two months the new administration has been devastatingly efficient in tearing things down, but painfully slow to explain how their actions fit into their broader strategy.

All this has the Chinese celebrating. As the Voice of America was being dismantled and fell silent, The Global Times, a mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, wrote that “the so-called beacon of freedom, VOA, has now been discarded by its own government like a dirty rag.”cont'd:

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  On 3/22/2025 at 2:59 PM, bolverk said:
Meanwhile, in China, they’re celebrating.
Elon Musk’s DOGE cuts are leaving a vacuum that China can fill.
When President Trump announced on Friday that the United States would move ahead with a long-debated project to build a stealthy next-generation fighter jet, the message to China was clear: The United States plans to spend tens of billions of dollars over the next decade, probably far longer, to contain Beijing’s ability to dominate the skies over the Pacific.
But here on earth, the reality has been very different.
As the Department of Government Efficiency roars through agencies across government, its targets have included some of the organizations that Beijing worried about most, or actively sought to subvert. And, as with much that Elon Musk’s DOGE has dismembered, there has been no published study of the costs and benefits of losing those capabilities — and no discussion of how the roles, arguably as important as a manned fighter, might be replaced.
On the list of capabilities on life support is Radio Free Asia, a 29-year-old nonprofit that estimates its news broadcasts reach 60 million people in Asia each week, from China to Myanmar, and across the Pacific islands where the United States has been struggling to counter China’s narratives about the world. It furloughed all but 75 of its Washington staff members on Friday, trying to stay on the air while court cases develop on Trump officials’ moves to defund U.S. government-supported media.
At the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth eliminated the Office of Net Assessment, an internal think-tank. With an annual budget that accounted for a few seconds of Pentagon spending each year, the office tried to think ahead about the challenges the United States would face a decade or two in the future — such as the new capabilities of artificial intelligence, autonomous weapons and the hidden vulnerabilities of supply chains for military contractors.
It was a revered institution, what a Wall Street Journal editorial this past week called “The Office that Won the Cold War.” Mr. Hegseth said in a statement that it would be reconstituted in some unspecified way “in alignment with the Department’s strategic priorities,” though its value was that it challenged conventional thinking about those priorities.
Over at the Department of Homeland Security, a series of cyberdefenses have been stripped away, at a moment when China’s state-backed hackers have been more successful than at any time in recent memory.
Among those dissolved, at least for the time being, is the Cyber Safety Review Board, created on the model of the National Transportation Safety Board, which examines aircraft accidents and tries to extract lessons learned. The cybersecurity board was just beginning to take testimony on how Chinese intelligence bored deep inside America’s largest telecommunications firms, including the system the Justice Department uses to monitor its “lawful intercept” system, which places wiretaps on people suspected of committing crimes or spying — including Chinese spies.
Now the board has been disbanded. No one at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency seems able to say what has happened to the investigation into one of the most successful penetrations of American networks, or who is now responsible for figuring out why American telecommunications firms were caught unawares, for more than a year, by China’s Ministry of State Security.
The list goes on, more evidence that in its first two months the new administration has been devastatingly efficient in tearing things down, but painfully slow to explain how their actions fit into their broader strategy.
All this has the Chinese celebrating. As the Voice of America was being dismantled and fell silent, The Global Times, a mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, wrote that “the so-called beacon of freedom, VOA, has now been discarded by its own government like a dirty rag.”cont'd:
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Trump is doing what he was paid to do.
And his idiot followers think he’s actually RESISTING China. Fucking morons.
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  On 3/22/2025 at 2:59 PM, bolverk said:

Meanwhile, in China, they’re celebrating.

Elon Musk’s DOGE cuts are leaving a vacuum that China can fill.
When President Trump announced on Friday that the United States would move ahead with a long-debated project to build a stealthy next-generation fighter jet, the message to China was clear: The United States plans to spend tens of billions of dollars over the next decade, probably far longer, to contain Beijing’s ability to dominate the skies over the Pacific.

But here on earth, the reality has been very different.

As the Department of Government Efficiency roars through agencies across government, its targets have included some of the organizations that Beijing worried about most, or actively sought to subvert. And, as with much that Elon Musk’s DOGE has dismembered, there has been no published study of the costs and benefits of losing those capabilities — and no discussion of how the roles, arguably as important as a manned fighter, might be replaced.

On the list of capabilities on life support is Radio Free Asia, a 29-year-old nonprofit that estimates its news broadcasts reach 60 million people in Asia each week, from China to Myanmar, and across the Pacific islands where the United States has been struggling to counter China’s narratives about the world. It furloughed all but 75 of its Washington staff members on Friday, trying to stay on the air while court cases develop on Trump officials’ moves to defund U.S. government-supported media.

At the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth eliminated the Office of Net Assessment, an internal think-tank. With an annual budget that accounted for a few seconds of Pentagon spending each year, the office tried to think ahead about the challenges the United States would face a decade or two in the future — such as the new capabilities of artificial intelligence, autonomous weapons and the hidden vulnerabilities of supply chains for military contractors.

It was a revered institution, what a Wall Street Journal editorial this past week called “The Office that Won the Cold War.” Mr. Hegseth said in a statement that it would be reconstituted in some unspecified way “in alignment with the Department’s strategic priorities,” though its value was that it challenged conventional thinking about those priorities.

Over at the Department of Homeland Security, a series of cyberdefenses have been stripped away, at a moment when China’s state-backed hackers have been more successful than at any time in recent memory.

Among those dissolved, at least for the time being, is the Cyber Safety Review Board, created on the model of the National Transportation Safety Board, which examines aircraft accidents and tries to extract lessons learned. The cybersecurity board was just beginning to take testimony on how Chinese intelligence bored deep inside America’s largest telecommunications firms, including the system the Justice Department uses to monitor its “lawful intercept” system, which places wiretaps on people suspected of committing crimes or spying — including Chinese spies.

Now the board has been disbanded. No one at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency seems able to say what has happened to the investigation into one of the most successful penetrations of American networks, or who is now responsible for figuring out why American telecommunications firms were caught unawares, for more than a year, by China’s Ministry of State Security.

The list goes on, more evidence that in its first two months the new administration has been devastatingly efficient in tearing things down, but painfully slow to explain how their actions fit into their broader strategy.

All this has the Chinese celebrating. As the Voice of America was being dismantled and fell silent, The Global Times, a mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, wrote that “the so-called beacon of freedom, VOA, has now been discarded by its own government like a dirty rag.”cont'd:

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No politics!  Because it hurts some people’s fee fees!  Sorry morons. It’s the world now. News and politics are intertwined in every way now. Because a bunch of snowflakes decided they wanted to become an authoritarian state.

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  On 3/22/2025 at 3:59 PM, Biff Tannen said:

No politics!  Because it hurts some people’s fee fees!  Sorry morons. It’s the world now. News and politics are intertwined in every way now. Because a bunch of snowflakes decided they wanted to become an authoritarian state.

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