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I went back three pages and didn't see a place to put this article from the Washington Post.

Paper trail of Trump pressuring justice department to promote the Big Lie.

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President Donald Trump’s staff began sending emails to Jeffrey Rosen, the No. 2 at the Justice Department, asking him to embrace Trump’s claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election at least 10 days before Rosen assumed the role of acting attorney general, according to new emails disclosed by the House Committee on Oversight and Reform in advance of a hearing to probe the causes of the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

On the same day as the electoral college met to certify the election results — which was also the day Trump announced that William P. Barr would be stepping down as attorney general — his assistant sent Rosen an email with a list of complaints concerning the way the election had been carried out in Antrim County, Mich.

The file included a forensic analysis of the Dominion Voting Systems machines the county employed, alleging they were “intentionally and purposefully” calibrated to create fraudulent results, and “talking points” that could be used to counter any arguments “against us.”

“It’s indicative of what the machines can and did do to move votes,” the document Trump sent to Rosen reads. “We believe it has happened everywhere.”

The claims were false.

The email — one of several previously undisclosed records released by the Oversight Committee Tuesday morning — sheds light on the type of pressure Trump was putting on the Justice Department to take up his crusade against Joe Biden’s 2020 victory.

Maybe this thread can stick with official investigations and legal proceedings.

This smells of sedition etc. Certainly abuse of power. But it's okay because it happened after the election when (GOP) presidents have Mitch Immunity from prosecution or even Congressional investigation.

 

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Still hard to reconcile that Trump is so delusional that he refused to meet or even speak with Biden during the transition. With ZERO evidence that anyone much less Biden cheated. Even if Trump thought Biden was a 100% cheat who stole the election, Trump put his feelings over the well-being of America. Real hero.

Outside of a few isolated cases, there were few people casting illegal ballots. And honesty, I think GOP voters did that more than Dem voters. But even then, there was zero impact. Even state GOP leaders said there were no known problems.

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51 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Still hard to reconcile that Trump is so delusional that he refused to meet or even speak with Biden during the transition. With ZERO evidence that anyone much less Biden cheated. Even if Trump thought Biden was a 100% cheat who stole the election, Trump put his feelings over the well-being of America. Real hero.

It’s not about feelings. Trump is working an angle that the election was stolen. He can’t break kayfabe and meet with Biden, unless he’s ready to abandon the angle. Which he is not willing to do, because that angle is why he is still drawing crowds.  

In 2021, we all know that wrestling is fake. But all those “It’s still real to me, dammit!” dipsticks didn’t go anywhere and they still need a fantasy outlet. So they’ve gone all in on Republican politics. The GOP treats politics like a work, and its base eats that shit up. Hollywood Hogan was just an act, sure. But globalists stealing the election really happened!  And Trump will finally get his revenge over Sleepy Joe Biden when they clash at FreedoMania 2022. And when he doesn’t, it will be the fault of the Globalists and the Liberals and Vaccine Fauci, and Trump will surely get his revenge at Clash of the Presidents 2024. Just you wait!

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49 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

It’s not about feelings. Trump is working an angle that the election was stolen. He can’t break kayfabe and meet with Biden, unless he’s ready to abandon the angle. Which he is not willing to do, because that angle is why he is still drawing crowds.  

In 2021, we all know that wrestling is fake. But all those “It’s still real to me, dammit!” dipsticks didn’t go anywhere and they still need a fantasy outlet. So they’ve gone all in on Republican politics. The GOP treats politics like a work, and its base eats that shit up. Hollywood Hogan was just an act, sure. But globalists stealing the election really happened!  And Trump will finally get his revenge over Sleepy Joe Biden when they clash at FreedoMania 2022. And when he doesn’t, it will be the fault of the Globalists and the Liberals and Vaccine Fauci, and Trump will surely get his revenge at Clash of the Presidents 2024. Just you wait!

In furtherance of the wrestling analogy, we’re at a point in our history where Vince Russo writing for it would be an improvement.

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37 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

TRUMP LITERALLY CHEATED IN BOTH ELECTIONS AND THEN LITERALLY MOBILIZED AN INSURRECTION WHEN HIS CHEATING DIDN’T WORK.  

He's only on tape threatening a state to forge their vote tally in his favor. It's kind of hard to think of many worse things an American president could do. It would have to be something ridiculous like siding with the leader of Russia over America on live tv. 

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3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Still hard to reconcile that Trump is so delusional that he refused to meet or even speak with Biden during the transition. With ZERO evidence that anyone much less Biden cheated.

Nothing could’ve been more predictable. 

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3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Still hard to reconcile that Trump is so delusional that he refused to meet or even speak with Biden during the transition. With ZERO evidence that anyone much less Biden cheated. Even if Trump thought Biden was a 100% cheat who stole the election, Trump put his feelings over the well-being of America. Real hero.

Outside of a few isolated cases, there were few people casting illegal ballots. And honesty, I think GOP voters did that more than Dem voters. But even then, there was zero impact. Even state GOP leaders said there were no known problems.

Part of the reason was Trump didn’t know enough to brief Biden on anything,

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13 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

This is GOP electoral strategy from here on out.

Beyond Trump, this is the bigger issue.  Peaceful transition of power is the cornerstone of our political system.  Take that away and we're just a big banana republic.

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17 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Part of the reason was Trump didn’t know enough to brief Biden on anything,

All he had to do was greet him for the tv cameras and then play with his crayons while the adults did the real work. 

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2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

It’s not about feelings. Trump is working an angle that the election was stolen. He can’t break kayfabe and meet with Biden, unless he’s ready to abandon the angle. Which he is not willing to do, because that angle is why he is still drawing crowds.  

In 2021, we all know that wrestling is fake. But all those “It’s still real to me, dammit!” dipsticks didn’t go anywhere and they still need a fantasy outlet. So they’ve gone all in on Republican politics. The GOP treats politics like a work, and its base eats that shit up. Hollywood Hogan was just an act, sure. But globalists stealing the election really happened!  And Trump will finally get his revenge over Sleepy Joe Biden when they clash at FreedoMania 2022. And when he doesn’t, it will be the fault of the Globalists and the Liberals and Vaccine Fauci, and Trump will surely get his revenge at Clash of the Presidents 2024. Just you wait!

Whoa, whoa, whoa!  what do you mean that wrestling is fake.  

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Trump is a 70 something never grown up, always got what he wanted even if he had to steal it, immature child who happened to become President. Which is the most dangerous thing that could have happened to this country. On top of it he has created clones like him in his children. Unfortunately I’m not sure the Dems know what to do about it. 

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

TRUMP LITERALLY CHEATED IN BOTH ELECTIONS AND THEN LITERALLY MOBILIZED AN INSURRECTION WHEN HIS CHEATING DIDN’T WORK.  

And Ric Flair never won a fair match in his life. But he was the World Champion, somehow.

So much of what works for today’s GOP was ripped off from pro wrestling. Back in 2015 or 2016, there were stories of angry mobs harassing CNN reporters and cameramen at Trump rallies. At least one reporter told of MAGA fans approaching them on their way out of the rally to laugh, shake their hands, and thank them for playing their role. It was clear these people believed they were attending a show that presented a make-believe feud between Trump (the face) and CNN (the heel). When the show was over, so was the dispute. 

But now the show doesn’t end. It’s not confined to the time and space of a given Trump rally. It’s always and everywhere. And the audience has lost their grip on the divide between real and imaginary.

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2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

It’s not about feelings. Trump is working an angle that the election was stolen. He can’t break kayfabe and meet with Biden, unless he’s ready to abandon the angle. Which he is not willing to do, because that angle is why he is still drawing crowds.  

In 2021, we all know that wrestling is fake. But all those “It’s still real to me, dammit!” dipsticks didn’t go anywhere and they still need a fantasy outlet. So they’ve gone all in on Republican politics. The GOP treats politics like a work, and its base eats that shit up. Hollywood Hogan was just an act, sure. But globalists stealing the election really happened!  And Trump will finally get his revenge over Sleepy Joe Biden when they clash at FreedoMania 2022. And when he doesn’t, it will be the fault of the Globalists and the Liberals and Vaccine Fauci, and Trump will surely get his revenge at Clash of the Presidents 2024. Just you wait!

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46 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

And Ric Flair never won a fair match in his life. But he was the World Champion, somehow.

So much of what works for today’s GOP was ripped off from pro wrestling. Back in 2015 or 2016, there were stories of angry mobs harassing CNN reporters and cameramen at Trump rallies. At least one reporter told of MAGA fans approaching them on their way out of the rally to laugh, shake their hands, and thank them for playing their role. It was clear these people believed they were attending a show that presented a make-believe feud between Trump (the face) and CNN (the heel). When the show was over, so was the dispute. 

But now the show doesn’t end. It’s not confined to the time and space of a given Trump rally. It’s always and everywhere. And the audience has lost their grip on the divide between real and imaginary.

Are you saying there are dotard supporters that thought it was all a joke and just playing around?  I find this highly unlikely, especially given what we have seen transpire.  I don't believe they ever had a grip on reality.

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1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Part of the reason was Trump didn’t know enough to brief Biden on anything,

Trump:  Uh, Joe?  This is pretty cool, push this little red button and they bring you a diet coke.  
 

Biden:  WTF? 

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5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Are you saying there are dotard supporters that thought it was all a joke and just playing around?

I think many of them, early on, approached the rallies as a kind of interactive theater. Of course, any large enough group of people will present a spectrum. Surely some took Trump’s act literally from the outset, others were purely cynical and recognized it as useful propaganda and crowd manipulation, and others found themselves enjoying what probably seemed like immersive fantasy. 

The problem is that the longer that shit goes on, and the more you surround yourself with true believers, the more you actually start to believe it.

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2 hours ago, Brandywine said:

Trump is a 70 something never grown up, always got what he wanted even if he had to steal it, immature child who happened to become President. Which is the most dangerous thing that could have happened to this country. On top of it he has created clones like him in his children. Unfortunately I’m not sure the Dems know what to do about it. 

They know exactly what to do about it, but they are being stymied by members of their own party.

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