The 01-06-21 Select Committee Thread

[Longhorn_Fan68 33853]

was it "I plead the 5th" for 4 hours? 🙄

[TwiceHorn 31349]

I've been meaning to do some research on treason, the actual crime, as opposed to the generalized term that gets thrown around.

As I suspected, since WWII, treason has been interpreted to require that the US be at war with a declared enemy. https://www.alternet.org/2018/07/here-are-all-people-whove-been-convicted-treason-us-and-ones-who-were-punished-execution/ This isn't a legal article, per se, but supports that interpretation, as does the Supreme Court case of Cramer v. United States.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cramer_v._United_States

So, treason isn't legally on the table for Trump and his minions, including any of the 1/6ers.

[Captainant 27510]

19 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

was it "I plead the 5th" for 4 hours? 🙄

"I do not recawwwwwl"

[jimmyjazz 45621]

20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I've been meaning to do some research on treason, the actual crime, as opposed to the generalized term that gets thrown around.

As I suspected, since WWII, treason has been interpreted to require that the US be at war with a declared enemy. https://www.alternet.org/2018/07/here-are-all-people-whove-been-convicted-treason-us-and-ones-who-were-punished-execution/ This isn't a legal article, per se, but supports that interpretation, as does the Supreme Court case of Cramer v. United States.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cramer_v._United_States

So, treason isn't legally on the table for Trump and his minions, including any of the 1/6ers.

That's been my read as well, although w/o the legal training to actually make the call.  It doesn't mean there aren't plenty of legitimate crimes that were committed by some of these folks.

[Pato del Muerto 52384]

20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I've been meaning to do some research on treason, the actual crime, as opposed to the generalized term that gets thrown around.

As I suspected, since WWII, treason has been interpreted to require that the US be at war with a declared enemy. https://www.alternet.org/2018/07/here-are-all-people-whove-been-convicted-treason-us-and-ones-who-were-punished-execution/ This isn't a legal article, per se, but supports that interpretation, as does the Supreme Court case of Cramer v. United States.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cramer_v._United_States

So, treason isn't legally on the table for Trump and his minions, including any of the 1/6ers.

So no American has been charged with treason since ww2 or earlier?

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13557]

The War On Christmas isn't over until WE say it's over!

[Satchel 6911]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Final jury:

This guy just started liking white people recently:

The man was “Blacks for Trump” founder Maurice Symonette, a.k.a. Michael the Black Man, a former member of a violent cult who posts anti-Semitic screeds and racist conspiracy theories online, and yet has been a featured member of the audience at Trump campaign events since 2016.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I've been meaning to do some research on treason, the actual crime, as opposed to the generalized term that gets thrown around.

As I suspected, since WWII, treason has been interpreted to require that the US be at war with a declared enemy. https://www.alternet.org/2018/07/here-are-all-people-whove-been-convicted-treason-us-and-ones-who-were-punished-execution/ This isn't a legal article, per se, but supports that interpretation, as does the Supreme Court case of Cramer v. United States.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cramer_v._United_States

So, treason isn't legally on the table for Trump and his minions, including any of the 1/6ers.

While you are correct, I do not give a shit and as you know the law is subject to reinterpretation and change. What has happened here warrants it. 

[Underdog 28475]

27 minutes ago, Satchel said:

This guy just started liking white people recently:

The man was “Blacks for Trump” founder Maurice Symonette, a.k.a. Michael the Black Man, a former member of a violent cult who posts anti-Semitic screeds and racist conspiracy theories online, and yet has been a featured member of the audience at Trump campaign events since 2016.

Probably one of the very rare few that Donnie’s checks have cleared for. 

[Underdog 28475]

2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

was it "I plead the 5th" for 4 hours? 🙄

 

[atomheartbevo 89499]

3 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

was it "I plead the 5th" for 4 hours? 🙄

Probably, but Barr is not one of those that will take the fall for Trump.  I have no doubt he covered his ass/has his get-out-of-jail papers somewhere in a safe place.

[Bama Chick 28596]

[Biff Tannen 45550]

16 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 

Yeah he’s another one that needs to shuffle off this mortal coil. 

[Nivek 16875]

On 1/22/2022 at 12:26 PM, JimmyJames said:

 

Now the Republican Party wants to prevent the African American vote. 

These fuckers need to hang. All of them. 

Isn't that the republican plan, to hang the uppity ones at least?  

[TwiceHorn 31349]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

That's been my read as well, although w/o the legal training to actually make the call.  It doesn't mean there aren't plenty of legitimate crimes that were committed by some of these folks.

No question. We have seditious conspiracy now. I have no explanation for the lack of insurrection charges. 

 

[4th&Five 41474]

 

[TheStoicPaisano 9905]

 

i hope this year’s version yields some particularly rank dutch ovenness.

Edited January 23, 2022 by TheStoicPaisano

[Hagbard Celine 10795]

"to cause or attempt to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States"

no googling..... 

one ping only.....

🕵️‍♂️

bueller?

 

[jimmyjazz 45621]

Did Newt elaborate as to the crimes he believes the select committee members have committed?

No?

Oh.

[Gil Bang 25903]

19 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

i hope this year’s version yields some particularly rank dutch ovenness.

Do you suppose her facial expression changes when she smells something rank?

[TwiceHorn 31349]

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Did Newt elaborate as to the crimes he believes the select committee members have committed?

No?

Oh.

Or that Congress is constitutionally incapable of sending anyone to jail?  Or even prosecuting them?

The rhetoric from the right is, in addition to being insidious, deeply moronic.

[Gil Bang 25903]

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13557]

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

 

Just like with Hillary! Promises made. Promises kept. 

[RDCanecutter 26346]

1 hour ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

I loved her in Macbeth.

[jimmyjazz 45621]

23 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I loved her in Macbeth.

True story . . . in high school I went on a school trip to see a stage production of "Macbeth" in St. Louis.  The witches were nude.  That play rocked.

[Guest Lobo]

I love her attempt to be relatable.  

"What do the poors that keep sending us money like to eat in Winter?  Ahh, I'll make some chili.  How hard can it be?  First thing I'll need to do though is get a manicure and starch my cooking blazer."  

Edited January 23, 2022 by Lobo

[Biff Tannen 45550]

5 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I love her attempt to be relatable.  

"What do the poors that keep sending us money like to eat in Winter?  Ahh, I'll make some chili.  How hard can it be?  First thing I'll need to do though is get a manicure and starch my cooking blazer."  

Yep. Her el Salvadoran chef is just off camera. 

[Willfully Horn 7946]

Gruoch references belong in the Covid thread. And no, it doesn’t wash off your hands. The lung phlegm.

[staboner 4959]

3 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

i hope this year’s version yields some particularly rank dutch ovenness.

you look like your head fell in the cheese dip back in 1957

[Gil Bang 25903]

She's hoping that she doesn't get cancer, because Newt will have her served in the ICU.

[Underdog 28475]

First Generation Stepford Wife? 

[Nivek 16875]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Did Newt elaborate as to the crimes he believes the select committee members have committed?

No?

Oh.

my pillow guy will be on it in 2 weeks.

[staboner 4959]

4 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

 

i've told this story a few times on here, or previous heres. i saw this cocksucker newt in person in DC once. he gave a speech at an event i was at. i didn't even know he was on the menu. motherfucker got up there and he was genuinely good. he was so on point with so much of what he was talking about i thought maybe it was the alien version of him.

then there is this version of him. makes you wonder about the simulation. does he believe this? want this? this is a very intelligent person who is a hitman for the republicans when called on. i see it, i have seent it, i can just never fully understand what is going on in that 2 faced head of his. 

Edited January 24, 2022 by staboner

[NWBuck 8549]

He's worked with Brian Stephenson on prison reform... But still has a frozen turd for his soul 

[YChang 3432]

Fuck Newt, fuck the contract with America… truly an evil person. 

[atomheartbevo 89499]

4 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

i hope this year’s version yields some particularly rank dutch ovenness.

You think they sleep in the same bed?

[WhatTheBuck 28728]

6 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

i hope this year’s version yields some particularly rank dutch ovenness.

Stygian! We all know that Eye of Newt is an essential ingredient in any witch’s potion. 

[NWBuck 8549]

6 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

i hope this year’s version yields some particularly rank dutch ovenness.

[Brisketexan 104778]

You think they sleep in the same crypt?

FIF accuracy.

[Born to Run 6568]

Ran out of tokens?

[Born to Run 6568]

Yeah he’s another one that needs to shuffle off this mortal coil. 

That mother fucker fooled me something awful. -Signed another former conservative. Whoopsie daisey.

[Born to Run 6568]

Do you suppose her facial expression changes when she smells something rank?

No, she has years of feigning that face while Newt on Cialis slides a couple flaccid inches in her for a few seconds. That's called Saturday in the Gingrich domecile.


Sorry to any lady's on this board for your parts just drying up. imagine Chris Hemsworth

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19096]

I’ll put this here.

 

 

Edited January 24, 2022 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[Guest Lobo]

Amazingly cyber ninja fumbling around there for months and couldn’t find this most obvious evidence of actual, widespread voter fraud.  

also, when did rolling stone magazine get so good at finding hidden political correspondence?

[HenryJames 65919]

CaNcEl CuLtUrE

[Beau Vine 54042]

And of course a dude from Dripping Springs is all involved in this.

No offense, ROFLBox.

[RDCanecutter 26346]

13 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

You think they sleep in the same coffin?

No.

[Dammit Brisket.]

Edited January 24, 2022 by RDCanecutter
muhvuggin Brisket all fast n shit.

[Gatorubet 30163]

Did you fuck her in the ass on a private jet? If not, we don’t care. 

Brisket, if you fucked her in the ass in a commercial jet, I still wanna hear about it.

[TwiceHorn 31349]

23 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

While you are correct, I do not give a shit and as you know the law is subject to reinterpretation and change. What has happened here warrants it. 

Well, statutory law like that is less likely to be re-interpreted than some common law doctrine.

But there seems to be a sort of unstated feeling that people should be charged with treason, and that is likely not going to happen because of the language of the current statute.  And, to try to re-interpret it now would probably pose ex post facto problems.

My post was intended as an explainer.

And, as mentioned in my follow-up, we now have people charged with seditious conspiracy, which seems appropriate.

I am still a bit puzzled about the lack of charges of insurrection, but I don't think anyone has ever been charged with insurrection in the US.

[Biff Tannen 45550]

6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, statutory law like that is less likely to be re-interpreted than some common law doctrine.

But there seems to be a sort of unstated feeling that people should be charged with treason, and that is likely not going to happen because of the language of the current statute.  And, to try to re-interpret it now would probably pose ex post facto problems.

My post was intended as an explainer.

And, as mentioned in my follow-up, we now have people charged with seditious conspiracy, which seems appropriate.

I am still a bit puzzled about the lack of charges of insurrection, but I don't think anyone has ever been charged with insurrection in the US.

I don't necessarily care what it is called, but the people at the top of this conspiracy to overthrow a duly elected government need a penalty harsh enough to deter others from trying again.  Life without parole or death seem to me to be the only options here.  I fully expect them to get nothing or a fine though.