How long does Earth have left?

[GreenspointTexas 9664]

How much longer do we as a civilization survive on earth? Most predictions ive been reading recently say between 100-200 years left, with most leaning towards 100-125 years

 

personally, I just dont see how the world can sustain the current population growth. That, coupled with an increase in other factors such as greenhouse gases and the ever growing threat of a pandemic (due to either antibiotic resistant diseases or unfrosted microbes)  make me curious as to what yall think.

 

I think planet colonization is gonna have to be the way to go, but technology is going to have to be a little more advanced before mass living on another planet

 

Personally, I would say 125-150 years.... then, Ball game

Edited May 7, 2018 by GreenspointTexas

[Sbbruin 21888]

Bill Gates recently opined that we are due for a catastrophic pandemic plague that could wipe out 30% of the population.  That might be a good reset button.

But as a species, I think we will continue for thousands, or tens of thousands, of years.  

[Trey3216 15356]

21 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Bill Gates recently opined that we are due for a catastrophic pandemic plague that could wipe out 30% of the population.  That might be a good reset button.

But as a species, I think we will continue for thousands, or tens of thousands, of years.  

I'm in this camp.  I think we'll see, likely in the next 30-50 years, a pandemic similar to the Black Plague where we lose 25-40% of global population.  "Life finds a way". 

[Whitman 694]

Depending upon the accuracy of the Gregorian calendar versus what was used by Hebrew scribes, 2033 is just about the limit for the return of Jesus in my thinking.  No, the earth at this point won't be destroyed, but renewed and returned to it's paradisacal glory.  There is good debate in study of Isaiah, Daniel, Mattthew, and Revelations, about the events before and the timing/duration of these events.

[DaggerHorns 3086]

I always think of everything that is a cause of death that wasn’t previously. New diseaseas, increased prevalence of diseases, unforeseen events of terror, war, drugs, etc.

I also think about how for the first time in human history life expectancy is decreasing which is greatly correlated with what we eat. Dr Younan Nowzaradan talks about this in his obesity practice/studies.

[Lurch 5931]

9 minutes ago, Whitman said:

Depending upon the accuracy of the Gregorian calendar versus what was used by Hebrew scribes, 2033 is just about the limit for the return of Jesus in my thinking.  No, the earth at this point won't be destroyed, but renewed and returned to it's paradisacal glory.  There is good debate in study of Isaiah, Daniel, Mattthew, and Revelations, about the events before and the timing/duration of these events.

Looking forward to the 2034 backpedaling 

[Lurch 5931]

5 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said:

I always think of everything that is a cause of death that wasn’t previously. New diseaseas, increased prevalence of diseases, unforeseen events of terror, war, drugs, etc.

I also think about how for the first time in human history life expectancy is decreasing which is greatly correlated with what we eat. Dr Younan Nowzaradan talks about this in his obesity practice/studies.

But balance that with advancement in technology and general intelligence.  It may well be a wash

[Horn of Gabriel 1671]

7 minutes ago, Lurch said:

Looking forward to the 2034 backpedaling 

"...new research has just arisen and the date is actually 2057!"

[closetojumping 62870]

We don't know or understand a fucking thing about the future other than it will be a lot different than any of us predict. We're a narcissistic species with a terribad case of myopia and self-importance. Earth will look a lot like it does now well into the future, at a macro-level. A fucking nuclear holocaust would hit a human reset button and largely do nothing to the earth and its climate beyond a decade-ish chill. 120-150 years is an insignificant speck on the ass of this rock's life. Hell, 500,000 years of human development is basically nothing in the course of the earth's history. We fundamentally do not understand chaos at a cosmic level, nor the infinitesimal impact our existence has on it. 

[F250 28818]

It doesn't matter, we are a computer simulation, none of this is real.

 

[Lurch 5931]

7 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

We don't know or understand a fucking thing about the future other than it will be a lot different than any of us predict. We're a narcissistic species with a terribad case of myopia and self-importance. Earth will look a lot like it does now well into the future, at a macro-level. A fucking nuclear holocaust would hit a human reset button and largely do nothing to the earth and its climate beyond a decade-ish chill. 120-150 years is an insignificant speck on the ass of this rock's life. Hell, 500,000 years of human development is basically nothing in the course of the earth's history. We fundamentally do not understand chaos at a cosmic level, nor the infinitesimal impact our existence has on it. 

[Viper 12112]

5 minutes ago, F250 said:

It doesn't matter, we are a computer simulation, none of this is real.

 

[Lurch 5931]

6 minutes ago, F250 said:

It doesn't matter, we are a computer simulation, none of this is real.

 

“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.

Bill Hicks

[El Diablo 4232]

Has anyone asked Frankie MacDonald? He's been pretty good with his predictions so far.

[po elvis 2076]

33 minutes ago, Whitman said:

Depending upon the accuracy of the Gregorian calendar versus what was used by Hebrew scribes, 2033 is just about the limit for the return of Jesus in my thinking.  No, the earth at this point won't be destroyed, but renewed and returned to it's paradisacal glory.  There is good debate in study of Isaiah, Daniel, Mattthew, and Revelations, about the events before and the timing/duration of these events.

what does the book of mormon have to say about it.

[F250 28818]

7 minutes ago, Viper said:

 

[staboner 4987]

i can't imagine a world that humans don't blow up with nukes. its just in our nature to destroy shit. i can't see a war breaking out and then no one using the best shit to combat it

lets see what bill has to say on the issue

 

Edited May 7, 2018 by staboner

[South Austin 52604]

1 hour ago, GreenspointTexas said:

I think planet colonization is gonna have to be the way to go, but technology is going to have to be a little more advanced before mass living on another planet

According to our president, we're getting very big in space.

 

Edited May 7, 2018 by South Austin

[South Austin 52604]

+rep (or whatever) to staboner.  I have that Hicks performance on DVD. 

[Neonmoon 38130]

15 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

We don't know or understand a fucking thing about the future other than it will be a lot different than any of us predict. We're a narcissistic species with a terribad case of myopia and self-importance. Earth will look a lot like it does now well into the future, at a macro-level. A fucking nuclear holocaust would hit a human reset button and largely do nothing to the earth and its climate beyond a decade-ish chill. 120-150 years is an insignificant speck on the ass of this rock's life. Hell, 500,000 years of human development is basically nothing in the course of the earth's history. We fundamentally do not understand chaos at a cosmic level, nor the infinitesimal impact our existence has on it. 

I was going to express this sentiment, but with maybe a touch more sarcasm. 

But yes, nothing humanity will or can do means shit in the long run, anyone who says otherwise is fear mongering to advance their crazy ass agenda. 

 

[Doc Holliday 199]

The earth will destroy us because we destroyed it.  The the reptiles and greys will repopulate the earth with homo sapien erectus 3.0 or something like that, right?

[Dewey 3293]

This is why I bought a 5th wheel, bring it on.

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[UDontKnow 10450]

18 minutes ago, South Austin said:

According to our president, we're getting very big in space.

An interesting way to say we're all becoming fatasses.

[RDCanecutter 26473]

Earth will have left as long as Earth has right, but the question is absurd because Earth has neither left nor right, creatures and objects on Earth have left and right. Earth has North, South, East, and West. West is shown as left on most of our maps, but that is completely arbitrary.

[Bernard 879]

Human civilization isn’t going anywhere. Wars, plagues, etc. may slow us down, but humans have the intelligence to adapt, procreate and ultimately survive. 

The Black Death plague killed 30-60% of the entire population of Europe over roughly a decade. Humans survived though. In the aftermath, the overall standard of living rose dramatically. Fewer people competing for the same level of resources. 

On a long enough time scale though, humanity is fucked. In a few billion years, the Sun will become a red giant and envelop the Earth. Long before that happens though, the Sun’s temperature will rise to point where all of Earth’s water evaporates. 

Bernard

[South Austin 52604]

9 minutes ago, Bernard said:

On a long enough time scale though, humanity is fucked. In a few billion years, the Sun will become a red giant and envelop the Earth. Long before that happens though, the Sun’s temperature will rise to point where all of Earth’s water evaporates. 

And aggy still won't have won a football championship.

[Pancho 44995]

1 hour ago, GreenspointTexas said:

How long does earth have left?

Bout tree fiddy...

[gyroprotagonist 2595]

3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

And aggy still won't have won a football championship.

didn't lose...just ran out of water

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

38 minutes ago, South Austin said:

According to our president, we're getting very big in space.

 

[High Plains Drifter 11052]

58 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

We don't know or understand a fucking thing about the future other than it will be a lot different than any of us predict. We're a narcissistic species with a terribad case of myopia and self-importance. Earth will look a lot like it does now well into the future, at a macro-level. A fucking nuclear holocaust would hit a human reset button and largely do nothing to the earth and its climate beyond a decade-ish chill. 120-150 years is an insignificant speck on the ass of this rock's life. Hell, 500,000 years of human development is basically nothing in the course of the earth's history. We fundamentally do not understand chaos at a cosmic level, nor the infinitesimal impact our existence has on it. 

 

Why are you speaking from the perspective of the Earth? The only perspective that matters is ours. And from our perspective, our impact on the Earth stopped being insignificant a long time ago.

[Wally Fairway 5586]

Earth is going to be fine, until the Sun explodes or burns out in the next few hundred million  billion years.

Earth survived the ice ages, the comet impact, and it will survive the over population/pollution/warming/cooling that man does.

Man might only have a few thousand years before we run out of food/potable water/places to dump our trash .... so there is still time to find another rock to live on, but getting there will be a mighty challenge. Unless Musk builds a interstellar hyperloop between Earth and Alpha Centuri.
Then again I hope that interstellar travel isn't the modern version of the Tower of Babel (see Ted Chiang - Tower of Babylon from Stories of your Life and Others)

http://gws.soonlabel.com/misc/Ted Chiang - Tower Of Babylon.pdf
(note I was going to like that to the book board, but I just noticed that didn't make in the relocation ... learn something new everyday)

[El Diablo 4232]

Maybe check out the "Hobbies" forum sometime.

[closetojumping 62870]

22 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Why are you speaking from the perspective of the Earth? The only perspective that matters is ours. And from our perspective, our impact on the Earth stopped being insignificant a long time ago.

I recommend reading the thread title. As well, pick up on the theme in the original post, positing that we'd have to leave earth eventually, and soon, because of all of the woeful damage we are doing, making the planet unstable/unsustainable for life. I responded in that context and I recommend it to others as something they should practice doing as well, but you do you, man.

 

[WhatTheBuck 28798]

2 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

How much longer do we as a civilization survive on earth? Most predictions ive been reading recently say between 100-200 years left, with most leaning towards 100-125 years

 

personally, I just dont see how the world can sustain the current population growth. That, coupled with an increase in other factors such as greenhouse gases and the ever growing threat of a pandemic (due to either antibiotic resistant diseases or unfrosted microbes)  make me curious as to what yall think.

 

I think planet colonization is gonna have to be the way to go, but technology is going to have to be a little more advanced before mass living on another planet

 

Personally, I would say 125-150 years.... then, Ball game

So...game over?

[Chuychanga 133]

Half hour maybe 45 minutes?

[Fuck Tim Beck 3834]

1 hour ago, Bernard said:

 

Long before that happens though, the Sun’s temperature will rise to point where all of Earth’s water evaporates. 

Bernard

This is why I drink Brawndo 

[Whitman 694]

1 hour ago, po elvis said:

what does the book of mormon have to say about it.

Not much.  It (Joseph Smith's imagination) stuck mostly to pre-Columbian history in the Book of Mormon.  Mormon prophecy about end times was more centered in the D&C and with early church leaders teachings and also the KJV of the Bible.

 

PS:  For those wondering and hadn't seen my posts about it at Shaggy, yes, there was a long period of my life where I was Mormon (until 2003).  My ex was from Salt Lake, I was married in the temple and served in several Bishopricks and Branch Presidencies.  I used to sign temple recommends for members denoting worthiness.  Obviously not anymore.  

Edited May 7, 2018 by Whitman

[Prepuce of Doom 21103]

2 hours ago, F250 said:

It doesn't matter, we are a computer simulation, none of this is real.

 

Dave's not here, man. 

..... 

Any species that doesn't figure out a way to escape its home planet is automatically doomed to extinction. 

[WBT 20669]

3 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

How much longer do we as a civilization survive on earth? Most predictions ive been reading recently say between 100-200 years left, with most leaning towards 100-125 years

What crazy shit are you reading?

[High Plains Drifter 11052]

40 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I recommend reading the thread title. As well, pick up on the theme in the original post, positing that we'd have to leave earth eventually, and soon, because of all of the woeful damage we are doing, making the planet unstable/unsustainable for life. I responded in that context and I recommend it to others as something they should practice doing as well, but you do you, man.

 

OP didn't say anything about the planet becoming unsustainable for life. He asked about it becoming unsustainable for human life (or maybe civilization) due to various factors. You responded with a non-answer about geologic time.

You complain that we are a narcissist species, then give a narcissistic answer to a question that we should all be thinking about.

 

 

[SHOOTER12 8828]

12 hours 47 minutes and 13.525 seconds.

[Upgrayedd 5818]

1 day after my alimony obligation stops probably 

[NeverMarryAStripper 21921]

2 hours ago, Lurch said:

But balance that with advancement in technology and general intelligence.  It may well be a wash

Technology may be advancing, but I'm pretty sure general intelligence is going the other way.

2 hours ago, South Austin said:

According to our president, we're getting very big in space.

 

That's pretty bold talk for a one eyed fat man a country that doesn't have a single vessel capable of putting a man is space.

Edited May 7, 2018 by NeverMarryAStripper

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4977]

Define capable, and does the man have to survive?

[PRONG HORN 3159]

Basically governments are afraid to limit reproduction because of Hitler.  It's seen as barbaric I guess.  

What every nation needs is a birth license.  High school diploma, good credit, and pass a multi choice exam.  Only after those requirements are met is someone eligible for the child lottery.  

[Bat Guano 359]

27 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

Basically governments are afraid to limit reproduction because of Hitler.  It's seen as barbaric I guess.  

What every nation needs is a birth license.  High school diploma, good credit, and pass a multi choice exam.  Only after those requirements are met is someone eligible for the child lottery.  

I think it's more important to be able to revoke the license at any time, for good reason. For those already born, that is.

Edited May 7, 2018 by Bat Guano

[MAROON 445]

3 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Earth will have left as long as Earth has right, but the question is absurd because Earth has neither left nor right, creatures and objects on Earth have left and right. Earth has North, South, East, and West. West is shown as left on most of our maps, but that is completely arbitrary.

[po elvis 2076]

If we wanted to, we could build a system that would protect the future of human life, even if all human life was exterminated by some catastrophic event or series of events. Store lots of sperm and egg samples. Build incubators.  Create a system that could detect when the earth's environment is again ready for habitation, if ever. Give birth to human babies. Raise them by robots. Teach them as they grow older. Give them all the latest technology that we have accrued. It wouldn't be too long that human civilization is able to become something as we know now on a smaller scale.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

13 minutes ago, po elvis said:

If we wanted to, we could build a system that would protect the future of human life, even if all human life was exterminated by some catastrophic event or series of events. Store lots of sperm and egg samples. Build incubators.  Create a system that could detect when the earth's environment is again ready for habitation, if ever. Give birth to human babies. Raise them by robots. Teach them as they grow older. Give them all the latest technology that we have accrued. It wouldn't be too long that human civilization is able to become something as we know now on a smaller scale.

They did this on an episode of Star Trek I think.

[AUinHsv 579]

Anyone else concerend about the north and south poles swapping ends?