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30 minutes ago, Basil said:

I had forgotten but started this thread in 2021 as a daily drinker after watching a tub of goo use his finger to scrape nacho cheese from a batting helmet. At the time I was about 225, which at 6’ required a bit more than the 20 pounds I thought I needed to drop. I’m now 170 with about 12% body fat and 80% of that weight loss was from cutting out alcohol. It’s really, really hard to overcome that 500 plus calories per day daily drinking adds. I couldn’t really make a dent in it for 15 years with diet and exercise. Quit drinking and lost 50 pounds in six months. And the shitty thing I knew damn well the drinking was the main problem but convinced myself there was a workaround in there if I kept trying.

On a more positive note I’m getting ready to go to Brenner’s Steakhouse with a 3000 calorie deficit for the day so it’s ribeye and potatoes and dessert.

If that’s wrong I never ever want to be right. 

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1 hour ago, Basil said:

I had forgotten but started this thread in 2021 as a daily drinker after watching a tub of goo use his finger to scrape nacho cheese from a batting helmet. At the time I was about 225, which at 6’ required a bit more than the 20 pounds I thought I needed to drop. I’m now 170 with about 12% body fat and 80% of that weight loss was from cutting out alcohol. It’s really, really hard to overcome that 500 plus calories per day daily drinking adds. I couldn’t really make a dent in it for 15 years with diet and exercise. Quit drinking and lost 50 pounds in six months. And the shitty thing I knew damn well the drinking was the main problem but convinced myself there was a workaround in there if I kept trying.

On a more positive note I’m getting ready to go to Brenner’s Steakhouse with a 3000 calorie deficit for the day so it’s ribeye and potatoes and dessert.

I had never heard the term “fat blindness” until recently. The idea is that people know they need to lose some weight but drastically underestimate how much they will really need to come down. It’s pretty common for people to say they want to lose 20 pounds then later realize it was more like 40 or 50.

As a country we have fat blindness as well. People are often surprised to hear that I want to lose 30 pounds. To them, I’m pretty normal because I’m not a complete fat ass. However, my body fat percentage is solidly overweight.

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2 hours ago, Basil said:

I had forgotten but started this thread in 2021 as a daily drinker after watching a tub of goo use his finger to scrape nacho cheese from a batting helmet. At the time I was about 225, which at 6’ required a bit more than the 20 pounds I thought I needed to drop. I’m now 170 with about 12% body fat and 80% of that weight loss was from cutting out alcohol. It’s really, really hard to overcome that 500 plus calories per day daily drinking adds. I couldn’t really make a dent in it for 15 years with diet and exercise. Quit drinking and lost 50 pounds in six months. And the shitty thing I knew damn well the drinking was the main problem but convinced myself there was a workaround in there if I kept trying.

On a more positive note I’m getting ready to go to Brenner’s Steakhouse with a 3000 calorie deficit for the day so it’s ribeye and potatoes and dessert.

I was at 177 pounds (5'10") a year and change ago. I quit alcohol and drastically reduced my sugar intake after pre-diabetic level bloodwork and the other ill-effects of too much booze, sugar, and fat. Fast forward a year and I'm down to a consistent 155 lbs and near perfect bloodwork. I recently began focusing on eliminating bad fat from my diet to get to a consistent 150 lbs and lower cholesterol. I'm permanently done with booze, sugar, and bad fats.

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I had never heard the term “fat blindness” until recently. The idea is that people know they need to lose some weight but drastically underestimate how much they will really need to come down. It’s pretty common for people to say they want to lose 20 pounds then later realize it was more like 40 or 50.
As a country we have fat blindness as well. People are often surprised to hear that I want to lose 30 pounds. To them, I’m pretty normal because I’m not a complete fat ass. However, my body fat percentage is solidly overweight.

Similar experience. I say I lost 50 already but need to lose 50 more. They can’t believe it and tell me I need to be careful or get a second opinion. I need to be careful about getting fit and getting to a healthy weight?
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6 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The average US man is a midget.

And they know it. It's so much fun when the munchkin losers try to be big. Whether it's with weapon, jacked up truck, or whatever makes them feel relevant.

They are the bottom of the gene pool.

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On 7/1/2021 at 9:45 AM, Hanrahan said:

I am well aware of the ongoing obesity problem but is this thing really starting to get out of hand?  I went to an Astros game last night - first stadium event post-pandemic - and a solid 1/3 of the people in my section were morbidly obese.  Like fat rolls all around and spilling over fat.  Another 40% were fat and/or overweight.  I'd say about 30% were what one would generally consider to be a normal body type.  Maybe it was just a bad random sample but I am still shaking my head at the 350-punder who ate a batting helmet full of nachos, used his finger to scrape and eat the leftover cheese and then busted out an insulin pen.

Note: I need to drop about 20 and am not some skinny guy gratuitously fat hating.

 

3 hours ago, Basil said:

I had forgotten but started this thread in 2021 as a daily drinker after watching a tub of goo use his finger to scrape nacho cheese from a batting helmet. At the time I was about 225, which at 6’ required a bit more than the 20 pounds I thought I needed to drop. I’m now 170 with about 12% body fat and 80% of that weight loss was from cutting out alcohol. It’s really, really hard to overcome that 500 plus calories per day daily drinking adds. I couldn’t really make a dent in it for 15 years with diet and exercise. Quit drinking and lost 50 pounds in six months. And the shitty thing I knew damn well the drinking was the main problem but convinced myself there was a workaround in there if I kept trying.

On a more positive note I’m getting ready to go to Brenner’s Steakhouse with a 3000 calorie deficit for the day so it’s ribeye and potatoes and dessert.


 

JFC are there only like 20 posters here using a shit ton of user names and socks? Why the fuck do so many of y’all have multiple handles?

 

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38 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

And they know it. It's so much fun when the munchkin losers try to be big. Whether it's with weapon, jacked up truck, or whatever makes them feel relevant.

They are the bottom of the gene pool.

What you are born with means jack shit compared to what you do with it. 

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Nah, but I’ve seen POS tall, charismatic, good looking guys who make no money and end up with overweight, average looking women. 
 

I’ve also seen short to average guys with charisma with career and financial success with good looking wives (some of whom are taller than them lol) but I always respect what someone has done vs what they’re born with.

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6 hours ago, pearlandhorn said:

Being fat is a choice. 

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tell that to all of the fat athletes and skinny alcoholics. you know i’d love to give you my sleep disorders and sleep schedule, watch your health deteriorate, watch you balloon back up to being a fatty again, and then have you tell me more about how it’s a choice.

FTR, i was fit and athletic for the first 15+ years of my life before taking the rx drug risperidal caused me to gain 120 lbs in one school year. since then my weight and health have been a rollercoaster, and three different times since i was 16 i’ve lost 100+ lbs through positive changes in my diet, sleep patterns, exercise habits, hours of sunlight and human interaction, etc. i love that shit. i’ve always been wired to go after as much if that as i can, my whole life. and yet and still, every single time ive lost the weight ive gone and gained the weight back, in no small part because of such severe sleep issues that i lost my dream job and haven’t been able to work in 10 years. i’ve been on disability for 8 years and, barring divine intervention, ill never work again. 

i was 6’1”, 200 lbs in 2014, going on hour-long runs first thing every morning, and going to my dream job every day, where i got to be outside and active most of the day. today, after years of chronic isolation and severe sleep deprivation (and it goes so far. whine just deprivation), plus a litany of other mental health issues, and series of injuries which no doubt could have been avoided were i in better shape, i now find myself at 395 lbs and in considerably poor health, despite being someone loves nothing more than exercising and who was never overweight to begin with before rx drugs ruined my body.

people like you who lose weight and then declare that being fat is a choice are dumb. like, actually stupid, for believing that. “i did a thing, therefore everyone else in the world has no excuse not to be able to do the same thing. i chose not to be fat, therefore anyone can.” yeah. dumb.

and another thing- you’re really gonna sit there and say, “being fat is a choice” about the millions of poor, uneducated, umpteenth generation fat kids whose parents fill their kids’ gullets with mcdonald’s, skittles, and mountain dew? that’s those kids fault? that’s their choice? give me a break. you lose weight one time and suddenly you’re the expert on all things weight related. that’s rich.

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I was at 177 pounds (5'10") a year and change ago. I quit alcohol and drastically reduced my sugar intake after pre-diabetic level bloodwork and the other ill-effects of too much booze, sugar, and fat. Fast forward a year and I'm down to a consistent 155 lbs and near perfect bloodwork. I recently began focusing on eliminating bad fat from my diet to get to a consistent 150 lbs and lower cholesterol. I'm permanently done with booze, sugar, and bad fats.

The straw that broke the camel’s back for me was consecutive high liver enzymes in my blood work at 45. Doc was like, “that’s not right, we need to test you for hepatitis.” And I was, “nah, I lack formal medical training but I’ve got this bad boy figured out.”

I also had high blood pressure going back a few years. All those health concerns were gone within a few months.
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tell that to all of the fat athletes and skinny alcoholics. you know i’d love to give you my sleep disorders and sleep schedule, watch your health deteriorate, watch you balloon back up to being a fatty again, and then have you tell me more about how it’s a choice.
FTR, i was fit and athletic for the first 15+ years of my life before taking the rx drug risperidal caused me to gain 120 lbs in one school year. since then my weight and health have been a rollercoaster, and three different times since i was 16 i’ve lost 100+ lbs through positive changes in my diet, sleep patterns, exercise habits, hours of sunlight and human interaction, etc. i love that shit. i’ve always been wired to go after as much if that as i can, my whole life. and yet and still, every single time ive lost the weight ive gone and gained the weight back, in no small part because of such severe sleep issues that i lost my dream job and haven’t been able to work in 10 years. i’ve been on disability for 8 years and, barring divine intervention, ill never work again. 
i was 6’1”, 200 lbs in 2014, going on hour-long runs first thing every morning, and going to my dream job every day, where i got to be outside and active most of the day. today, after years of chronic isolation and severe sleep deprivation (and it goes so far. whine just deprivation), plus a litany of other mental health issues, and series of injuries which no doubt could have been avoided were i in better shape, i now find myself at 395 lbs and in considerably poor health, despite being someone loves nothing more than exercising and who was never overweight to begin with before rx drugs ruined my body.
people like you who lose weight and then declare that being fat is a choice are dumb. like, actually stupid, for believing that. “i did a thing, therefore everyone else in the world has no excuse not to be able to do the same thing. i chose not to be fat, therefore anyone can.” yeah. dumb.
and another thing- you’re really gonna sit there and say, “being fat is a choice” about the millions of poor, uneducated, umpteenth generation fat kids whose parents fill their kids’ gullets with mcdonald’s, skittles, and mountain dew? that’s those kids fault? that’s their choice? give me a break. you lose weight one time and suddenly you’re the expert on all things weight related. that’s rich.

Pretty sure you can read between the lines and say being fat is a choice for most people. Which seems accurate considering like half the population is fat. There are some people who are medically fat but operating at a calorie deficit is going to cause you to lose weight. Like Pearland, I also went from fat to running marathons. If you’re looney enough you can cardio yourself skinny so long as you don’t eat like a total slob.
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One aspect of trying to eat healthier that I hate is holidays with the in-laws. It’s not because the food as I let myself eat more and enjoy the day. It’s the relentless comments about not eating enough or demanding that I get a second plate of food.

My lunch will easily be over 1,000 calories yet showing any restraint in not being a complete fat ass is met with disdain. For the record, I don’t make any announcements about what I’m eating or weight loss. Just make my plate like a normal human.


“Guess you didn’t like the food” ~ guy who had a quadruple bypass and is currently in heart failure but makes no connection to his diet.

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"I got what i wanted"   "I am full"  "Food was great, thank you!"- are all appropriate responses that show gratitude and respect.

One of my grandmothers would send food home with your ass too, LOL.  Ultimately, sticking to what you know is right for you is what matters.  You're the one who has to live with the next day, and the day after that...

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4 minutes ago, Iceman said:

"I got what i wanted"   "I am full"  "Food was great, thank you!"- are all appropriate responses that show gratitude and respect.

One of my grandmothers would send food home with your ass too, LOL.  Ultimately, sticking to what you know is right for you is what matters.  You're the one who has to live with the next day, and the day after that...

It’s been 20 years with them. There no magic phrase that will work because it’s all coping for their own over eating. MIL and FIL have a very dysfunctional relationship with food. Interesting thing is that their 3 kids, all in their 30s and 40s, are relatively healthy/normal eaters. 

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On 4/18/2025 at 12:54 PM, msucolt45 said:

My daughter, bless her heart got my genes for hair and bone structure (big chest). She actually got on Wegovy about 2-3 months ago now that she’s teaching post-graduation.
 

Rules.  Did you forget where you were posting?

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3 hours ago, Basil said:

choice

This is a very flexible word. Volumes of philosophical and scientific thought have been dedicated to the concepts embraced by this word. We're wasting our time unless all parties to the discussion can agree to a precise definition of what we mean by "choice"

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2 hours ago, Post Oak said:

My wife and I met with a nutritionist/dietician over spring break.  We both could stand to lose 20ish lbs. 

We were in deep focusing on macros and different diets/fasting and she said stop all that.  

Get your steps in. Walk after dinner then nothing else to eat until breakfast. This is a big one.

Eat breakfast lunch and dinner. 500 cals each. 1500 per day  If you're off a bit NBD.  But aim for 500 cals. She said I could have 1800 but 1500 works fine for me 

Eat breakfast.  We weren't.  Eat it, that way you're not starving at lunch and over eat.  Same for lunch/dinner.  Don't skip meals.  

If you have to miss a meal because of work or something get a snack to get you through and then 500 for the next meal. We keep Clif Bars on us.   

Focus on protein and veggies.  Obviously.

She said after a couple weeks your body will start to send you messages that your full, sooner.  And damn if it doesn't work. 

I'm usually a 3 breakfast taco guy.  Yesterday I was full at 2.  I've lost 9lbs since March 12 and my wife is down 6.   

Don't make it more complicated than it is.  If you have a bad day get back to the routine tomorrow.  Something about meeting with her and her following up with us made it click and it's become second nature in about 5 weeks time.

Good luck to everyone.  

 

I get the not skipping meals to control hunger but fasting is so good for you. I also - personally - don't find hunger transitive like that. I will always eat less having 2 MAD vs. 3. 

Not knocking your dietician because I think everyone is different and she's catering to what works for most people - just sharing my experience, personally - and would encourage everyone to at least fast 12-18 hours as much as they can. Maybe give it a shot once y'all hit your weight goals. 

This is a great watch and pertinent to the thread as a whole - and may blow your mind a little. A very cool counselor shared it with us my 2nd time through rehab (hopefully my last).

 

 

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9 hours ago, Derka said:

🙄

tell that to all of the fat athletes and skinny alcoholics. you know i’d love to give you my sleep disorders and sleep schedule, watch your health deteriorate, watch you balloon back up to being a fatty again, and then have you tell me more about how it’s a choice.

FTR, i was fit and athletic for the first 15+ years of my life before taking the rx drug risperidal caused me to gain 120 lbs in one school year. since then my weight and health have been a rollercoaster, and three different times since i was 16 i’ve lost 100+ lbs through positive changes in my diet, sleep patterns, exercise habits, hours of sunlight and human interaction, etc. i love that shit. i’ve always been wired to go after as much if that as i can, my whole life. and yet and still, every single time ive lost the weight ive gone and gained the weight back, in no small part because of such severe sleep issues that i lost my dream job and haven’t been able to work in 10 years. i’ve been on disability for 8 years and, barring divine intervention, ill never work again. 

i was 6’1”, 200 lbs in 2014, going on hour-long runs first thing every morning, and going to my dream job every day, where i got to be outside and active most of the day. today, after years of chronic isolation and severe sleep deprivation (and it goes so far. whine just deprivation), plus a litany of other mental health issues, and series of injuries which no doubt could have been avoided were i in better shape, i now find myself at 395 lbs and in considerably poor health, despite being someone loves nothing more than exercising and who was never overweight to begin with before rx drugs ruined my body.

people like you who lose weight and then declare that being fat is a choice are dumb. like, actually stupid, for believing that. “i did a thing, therefore everyone else in the world has no excuse not to be able to do the same thing. i chose not to be fat, therefore anyone can.” yeah. dumb.

and another thing- you’re really gonna sit there and say, “being fat is a choice” about the millions of poor, uneducated, umpteenth generation fat kids whose parents fill their kids’ gullets with mcdonald’s, skittles, and mountain dew? that’s those kids fault? that’s their choice? give me a break. you lose weight one time and suddenly you’re the expert on all things weight related. that’s rich.

I've always appreciated your sometimes brutal honesty.

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2 hours ago, Larry T. Spider said:

It’s been 20 years with them. There no magic phrase that will work because it’s all coping for their own over eating. MIL and FIL have a very dysfunctional relationship with food. Interesting thing is that their 3 kids, all in their 30s and 40s, are relatively healthy/normal eaters. 

Before the next holiday speak to them 1:1.  “My views on healthy living include portion control.  That is very hard because of how tasty your meals are.  And it is nothing personal when I decline seconds.  I know there is always more available to me and I know how much I want.  Please don’t pester me about it.  I do not appreciate it.”

If they persist, you persist to.  Raise the sharpness until they stop.  

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4 hours ago, Basil said:

Pretty sure you can read between the lines and say being fat is a choice for most people

it’s really not though. you either believe that americans in particular have the lowest ability for self control out of everyone in the entire world by a mile, or, you realize that a combination of genetics, overly processed foods, unfettered capitalism, and generations of already-fat, poor, uneducated people continuing this cycle by feeding their genetically challenged kids nothing but garbage from the womb forward all play a much bigger role in this nation’s obesity crisis than “put down the cupcake and eat a salad fatty.” 

people’s opinions on this subject are a great litmus test for who has common sense and who has an overwhelming sense of superiority.

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it’s really not though. you either believe that americans in particular have the lowest ability for self control out of everyone in the entire world by a mile, or, you realize that a combination of genetics, overly processed foods, unfettered capitalism, and generations of already-fat, poor, uneducated people continuing this cycle by feeding their genetically challenged kids nothing but garbage from the womb forward all play a much bigger role in this nation’s obesity crisis than “put down the cupcake and eat a salad fatty.” 
people’s opinions on this subject are a great litmus test for who has common sense and who has an overwhelming sense of superiority.

You’re saying it’s largely not a choice because Americans are not genetically capable of escaping a fat culture of eating like shit? You’ve identified the obvious problem but find the obvious solution out of reach?
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The system matters at a macro level. We have a bad system from city design that discourages walking all the way to food marketing and ingredients. It’s harder to be healthy here than probably any other industrialized nation.

But beyond that, it’s a simple math equation. You either consume more calories than you burn, or you don’t. Much of that is a choice on an individual level. 

If you’re a 40 y/o man that weighs 250 and is around 6 feet tall and you eat about 2,000 calories a day, you are going to lose weight unless you somehow defy the laws of thermodynamics. 

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I spent most of my 20’s and 30’s between 235-250 (I’m 6’3”). My blood pressure finally creeped up and my doctor put me on medication at 37yo. I decided I didn’t want to be on something like that for the rest of my life so I started a diet I knew I could maintain. I lost 36lbs in the first 6 weeks and eventually got down to 180. Now, 8 years later I stay between 190-195. I probably eat around 1,800 calories per day and work out 6 days a week. I’m healthier than I was in HS and rarely feel hungry. The key has been finding healthy foods I like and basically eating them every day with a few cheat meals every week or so. 

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8 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I spent most of my 20’s and 30’s between 235-250 (I’m 6’3”). My blood pressure finally creeped up and my doctor put me on medication at 37yo. I decided I didn’t want to be on something like that for the rest of my life so I started a diet I knew I could maintain. I lost 36lbs in the first 6 weeks and eventually got down to 180. Now, 8 years later I stay between 190-195. I probably eat around 1,800 calories per day and work out 6 days a week. I’m healthier than I was in HS and rarely feel hungry. The key has been finding healthy foods I like and basically eating them every day with a few cheat meals every week or so. 

6'3" myself. I got to 210ish, out of shape with a lot of fat at my heaviest. Feel like my fighting weight is around 180. 190 on the scale is when I know I need to dial it back. 

But I think anything under 200 is gravy health-wise. I'm also not a muscular dude.

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17 hours ago, Atticus said:

Nah, but I’ve seen POS tall, charismatic, good looking guys who make no money and end up with overweight, average looking women. 
 

I’ve also seen short to average guys with charisma with career and financial success with good looking wives (some of whom are taller than them lol) but I always respect what someone has done vs what they’re born with.

Yep. Definitely short.

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2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

This is a very flexible word. Volumes of philosophical and scientific thought have been dedicated to the concepts embraced by this word. We're wasting our time unless all parties to the discussion can agree to a precise definition of what we mean by "choice"

Allsup's burritos as a snack is a choice. 

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18 hours ago, Covri said:

 


 

JFC are there only like 20 posters here using a shit ton of user names and socks? Why the fuck do so many of y’all have multiple handles?

 

You're paranoid.

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if you believe that being fat is a choice then that means you also believe that rich people have more will power and self control than poor people do. 

ftr, the “being fat is a choice” crowd are maybe half a step removed from flat earthers for me. there is so much overwhelming scientific and anecdotal evidence which proves you wrong, but you ignore all of that and decide that you’re the expert anyway, because you lost some weight that one time, or because you’ve never had a weight problem. you guys aren’t aware of it, but the rest of us are looking at you in a bit of disbelief that you can believe something so patently untrue. i would recommend that you have a conversation with your doctor, or a registered dietitian, or a personal trainer, and see if they’re willing to back up your “fatties choose to be fat” claim. see how it goes.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

if you believe that being fat is a choice then that means you also believe that rich people have more will power and self control than poor people do. 

ftr, the “being fat is a choice” crowd are maybe half a step removed from flat earthers for me. there is so much overwhelming scientific and anecdotal evidence which proves you wrong, but you ignore all of that and decide that you’re the expert anyway, because you lost some weight that one time, or because you’ve never had a weight problem. you guys aren’t aware of it, but the rest of us are looking at you in a bit of disbelief that you can believe something so patently untrue. i would recommend that you have a conversation with your doctor, or a registered dietitian, or a personal trainer, and see if they’re willing to back up your “fatties choose to be fat” claim. see how it goes.

If you give me your age, height and weight, I can give you a calorie number to stay under each day. If you do it, you will lose weight.

You either choose to stay under the number or you don’t. Now, there’s a million environmental and economic factors that may make that easier or harder for you. But, at the end of the day, if you eat more calories than the allotted number, that’s a choice.

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let’s take it a step beyond being fat, and let’s talk about health. when i was in HS, pflugerville high was full of guys like antwan cobb, marlon williams, alex okafor, etc. just chock full of d-1 athletes who looked like d-1 athletes. now, with PFISD having four high schools, and with PHS being the oldest, PHS now only draws from the oldest, poorest neighborhoods in pflugerville. i follow our sports teams on twitter, and our athletes look malnourished. that’s not hyperbole either- our varsity athletes are short, they’re skinny, their skin looks splotchy and slightly jaundiced, their hair is thin- they just do not look like healthy kids.

meanwhile, where i used to go to school/work, in west austin/westlake, the kids are tall, healthy, well fed, well groomed, and all look ready for the abercrombie shoot. and that’s just the regular kids. the actual athletes all look like brock cunningham, shay holle, and cade klubnik. just a picture of perfect health.

the people who think that being fat is a choice must also think that the folks from tarrytown, and bee caves, and westlake, all choose to have super healthy and fit kids, while the families from wells branch, windermere, and chisholm point simply choose to have less healthy, smaller, weaker, more immunocompromised children. 

give. me. a. break.

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6 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said:

Now, there’s a million environmental and economic factors that may make that easier or harder for you.

you guys keep glossing over this like it’s a funny little footnote, and not the actual entire reason that being fat *isn’t* a choice.

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seriously folks, talk to any personal trainer, any one- ask them if they’ve ever had a client who has done everything by the book- from calorie intake to diet to sleep to water to sunlight- who did get healthier, but who stayed fat. ask them if genuine had a client like that. if they’ve been a PT for any amount of time, they will say “yes”, universally.

your idea that this calories in/calories out formula is a universal trick for not being fat is about as accurate as the early 2000’s food pyramid that told everyone to eat as much bread and pasta as possible for optimal health.

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It’s really just calories in vs calories out. Unless you defy the laws of thermodynamics. In that case I can’t help you.

Do you  think that if you eat 2,000 calories a day and walk some you won’t lose weight? Honest question, not trying to pick at you.

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4 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said:

It’s really just calories in vs calories out. Unless you defy the laws of thermodynamics. In that case I can’t help you.

Do you  think that if you eat 2,000 calories a day and walk some you won’t lose weight? Honest question, not trying to pick at you.

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3 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said:

It’s really just calories in vs calories out. Unless you defy the laws of thermodynamics. In that case I can’t help you.

Do you  think that if you eat 2,000 calories a day and walk some you won’t lose weight? Honest question, not trying to pick at you.

Please don’t. His last four posts have gone unanswered. I don’t think that’s by accident. I think he has done a great job recently at not going off, and I think the rest of the board has done a great job recently of not provoking him. 

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Quitting drinking is as easy as not ingesting alcohol any longer, and yet many people don’t really have “choice” in the same way that others do, and there are a lot of reasons for that. It’s not helpful for non-alcoholics to simply profess that people who can’t seem to put the bottle down are choosing not to and are morally or otherwise weak, and it also displays their own ignorance on the subject. For folks who get a lot of pride out of beating that drum, it speaks to their character as well.

But the path to sobriety also involves rigorous accountability.

I’m not addicted to food, but I always imagine it is exactly like that for some people. And I’m guessing the problem with some rx drugs is that they give you an insatiable appetite? And of course there’s the problem that the easiest diet to eat in America will kill you.

 

While recognizing that I don’t have a food addiction, I do think that part of what made losing weight for me very easy this time around is the amount of practice I have shutting out that voice in my head screaming for the thing.

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