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13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It's just so fucking childish, and narrow-minded.  We can get into some broader discussion about how being open-minded about food also speaks to socioeconomics and sophistication.  And yeah, I can be a judgmental snob in that regard.

For example, years ago, I took all of our law clerks out for happy hour.  Conversation turned to discussion of the various places people had traveled -- turns out that each of them had been to some cool place or another.  So I asked "okay, so what's the most unusual thing you've eaten while traveling that you ended up liking."  Got lots of different answers, some of them were pretty adventurous.  Till we got to one guy, and he said "you know, everywhere I've been, I've found that they serve some version of steak and potatoes, so I just eat that when I'm traveling."  Dude had been to something like 8 countries....and BRAGGED about only eating meat and potatoes.  And just like that, this narrow-thinking dude dropped off my list of potential hires (I need creativity, and people who aren't afraid of taking on assignments that nobody has ever done before).

Or my kids, who have traveled and live internationally.  I remember when my daughter was on her first solo jaunt in Germany, just a little two day excursion by herself to Dresden.  She texted us one day to tell us about her breakfast mistake -- she misread the menu, and ordered mett.  It's raw pork and onions on bread.  Hit it with a little lemon and salt:

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She said "yeah, I messed up and misread the menu, and got served raw pork for breakfast."

"Did you eat it?"

"Fuck yes I did, you didn't raise a whimp."

Now, it's not her go-to breakfast order, but she'll eat it.  I've tried it since, and I actually like it.  The point being . . . there's something social and open about trying a people's food, and accepting what they serve you.  It goes hand-in-hand with living a lifestyle that is likelier to be healthy.   Somebody who has never left Dayton, Texas . . . probably doesn't have the healthiest eating habits.  That goes with socioeconomics, exposure, wealth/poverty, all of those factors.  Dude in Dayton doesn't know that "fresh asparagus season" is a thing in Germany.  He doesn't even know how to prepare asparagus.  It's biscuits and gravy and such for him.  Can't blame a fella too much for just not knowing things.

I've had that.  Not bad.  Wildest thing I ever had was cobra in Vietnam.  Brought out alive prior to slither around the floor, hood up, and scare everyone.  

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2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I was certain he was no older than 23

anyone on this site could have won everything i own betting me that he was older than 20.

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1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m in George West today, asked the county clerk’s office ladies where I could get something like grilled chicken and vegetables for lunch.  It was a three minute discussion before they came to a conclusion and the side vegetable was still beans and a cheese enchilada came on the plate also.  They said they mostly cook at home or drive to Three Rivers.  Talk about limited healthy options. 

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The amount of candy and sweets casually passed out to every child in the country between Halloween, birthday pinatas, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's, Easter, etc. is insane. Literal buckets worth.

Legitimately, between October and April, if we kept our stash and kept accumulating it, there's no way we'd run out if we gave each of our kids 3 pieces a night. We let them pick they're 2 or 3 favorites from each event, donate the rest, then spread their distribution to maybe one or two per week, depending on behavior. Dessert isn't an expectation. If they're still hungry after dinner, they're always allowed to have fruit. They've gotten to a point where they wouldn't eat multiple treats at once even if they could because it's "too sweet."

I can't imagine the households that are holding onto all the candy. Even for kids with great metabolism, the bad habits are ingrained early.

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no. fucking. way.
that is god damned incredible.

He’s been around here and shaggy for probably a decade +, and I know for certain yall didn’t just start noticing his stupidity in the last year or two.
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I can’t find it now but I recently read an article about picky eaters and how it’s seen as a sign of low socio economic status in the business world. Definitely tracks with what Brisket posted. I don’t think you have to be that adventurous but you shouldn’t be the one constantly vetoing restaurants. You should be able to find at least a few things you like at just about any restaurant - and not on the kids menu.

I recently took a person that works in the same field to happy hour/early dinner to discuss some business opportunities. She couldn’t find anything she liked and at bread and butter. Also, quite overweight. Second invite got lost in the mail.

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3 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Who do you know who works minimum wage as an adult where you live in Houston?  I did not know that was a thing any more.  It has to be very, very rare.  Wal Mart starts you at $14 per hour.  The going rate for a housekeeper or nanny is now over $20 per hour from everyone I know.

As for defunding education in Texas, not sure that has really happened.  Maybe if we didn't have 15 administrators at each school there would be more money. Inflation adjusted we spend more per student now than we did 20 years ago despite stagnation in real spending due to 19% inflation which is now recovering -- from AI 

To determine whether inflation-adjusted spending per student in Texas public schools has increased or decreased over the last 20 years (2005–2025), I’ll analyze data from the provided web sources, focusing on Texas Education Agency (TEA), National Education Association (NEA), and other credible reports. The analysis will adjust for inflation to reflect real spending power and account for changes in student enrollment, funding sources (state, local, federal), and economic factors like inflation rates. All dollar amounts are adjusted to 2025 dollars unless otherwise noted, using the Consumer Price Index (CPI) or education-specific inflation indices where applicable.

Key Findings

  • Overall Trend: Inflation-adjusted per-student spending in Texas public schools has increased over the last 20 years (2005–2025).
  • Long-Term Increase (2005–2016): From 2004–05 to 2015–16, inflation-adjusted per-student spending rose by approximately 3.9% (from $9,086 to $9,442 in 2016 dollars), driven by a 28.6% increase in total spending ($50.3 billion to $64.8 billion) despite a 20.5% enrollment growth.
  • Recent Decline (2019–2023): Since 2019, inflation-adjusted per-student spending has decreased by approximately $590 (in 2023 dollars) over the past decade, with a notable drop from 2021 to 2023 due to unchanged basic allotment ($6,160) and inflation rates of up to 19%.
  • 2025 Context: Preliminary data suggest a slight recovery in state funding post-2023, but inflation-adjusted per-student spending remains below 2019–20 peak levels. Total spending for 2023–24 is reported at $14,257 per pupil (nominal), but real spending is lower when adjusted.

 

 

Well the same Chat GPT that told me minimum wage was $7 plugged that in, so maybe the numbers in general are suspect? I'm pretty sure minimum wage still exists. McDonalds in Texas pays 11. I think you get my point, and additionally, the math doesn't change much if they're making 310 a week versus 260. Also, it's not about "people I know." I don't know anyone, but I know these people exist. 

You talk about administration in Texas being bloated, but that's not the point. The point is money spent per student in Texas has gone down in aggregate consistently for a long, long time now. This isn't a new thing. And saying it's bloated admin, who cares. The point is, These Programs and this kind of education DOESN'T EXIST for kids. The same way we all bemoan that we don't teach kids about personal finance in public schools either. 

I think you're putting a bit too much faith in ChatGPT. Dollars spent "in education" divided by students isn't a good metric. You're a Houstonian, I'm sure you're at least somewhat tangentially familiar with Mike Miles accused of funneling money to his charter schools in Colorado, or the state of HISD that brought about Miles to be inserted as head of HISD. Ask teachers how it's going, every single teacher I've known the past 10 years has spent a sad, pathetic amount of their already meager income on their own classroom supplies. Fund raises are held to supplement school funding. This shit didn't happen when we were children. And that willy only get worse when vouchers take hold. Texas is in the bottom quartile of per student spending in the country:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/per-pupil-spending-by-state
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The cuts being made in Texas are in Teachers, Special Education Teachers and funding in general, and resulting in class size bloating, etc. But that's not this debate. But to sit there and pretend that the state is awash in funds they're willing to give back to programs for education of any kind, much less food education and obesity when they won't even uphold their financial obligations for special needs children is extremely naive. Or it's not naive at all. 

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1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

You will get no argument from me that public schools in this country have all sorts of mission creep that do not advance what should be the core mission. But we spend almost $15k per student.  That should be plenty.

See my above chart. 15k puts us in the lowest quartile in America. 

If you believe these guys, it's in the worst 20%
https://www.raiseyourhandtexas.org/policy/school-funding/
https://www.raiseyourhandtexas.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/04_Policy-Paper-2024_School-Funding_FINAL.pdf

Additionally, with Abbott's efforts to get more property tax relief this session, that's likely less money as well. 

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20 hours ago, Deej said:

I shop at a "poor" HEB. Always stunned by carts full of shitty snacks and sugary drinks. 

I remember going in the San Marcos HEB one time during the Covid-related panic buying period -- the shelves were pretty picked clean, meat was completely gone, and the vegetable section hadn't been touched.

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42 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

The amount of candy and sweets casually passed out to every child in the country between Halloween, birthday pinatas, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's, Easter, etc. is insane. Literal buckets worth.

Legitimately, between October and April, if we kept our stash and kept accumulating it, there's no way we'd run out if we gave each of our kids 3 pieces a night. We let them pick they're 2 or 3 favorites from each event, donate the rest, then spread their distribution to maybe one or two per week, depending on behavior. Dessert isn't an expectation. If they're still hungry after dinner, they're always allowed to have fruit. They've gotten to a point where they wouldn't eat multiple treats at once even if they could because it's "too sweet."

I can't imagine the households that are holding onto all the candy. Even for kids with great metabolism, the bad habits are ingrained early.

Unfortunately, this is how it is with our granddaughter(5). We're hardly sent a picture of her without some kind of sweet(candy, donuts, etc...) in her hand, DIL is really bad about kowtowing to her, she does a good job eating her fruits.  And us GPs are guilty in bringing her candy made here in NY down to her as a treat. 

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19 hours ago, Derka said:

i have fibromyalgia, and it’s frankly remarkable how effective weed is for muscle pain. 

Preach, brother!

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Posted
2 hours ago, Helobious said:

Price: $475 weekly

I'm more laughing at going to the ghetto grocery store and asking where the kale and quinoa and coconut aminos are?

Posted
23 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I'm more laughing at going to the ghetto grocery store and asking where the kale and quinoa and coconut aminos are?

You could substitute collard greens for the kale.

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2 hours ago, aggie08 said:

The amount of candy and sweets casually passed out to every child in the country between Halloween, birthday pinatas, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's, Easter, etc. is insane. Literal buckets worth.

Legitimately, between October and April, if we kept our stash and kept accumulating it, there's no way we'd run out if we gave each of our kids 3 pieces a night. We let them pick they're 2 or 3 favorites from each event, donate the rest, then spread their distribution to maybe one or two per week, depending on behavior. Dessert isn't an expectation. If they're still hungry after dinner, they're always allowed to have fruit. They've gotten to a point where they wouldn't eat multiple treats at once even if they could because it's "too sweet."

I can't imagine the households that are holding onto all the candy. Even for kids with great metabolism, the bad habits are ingrained early.


we’ve always done the “switch witch” for Halloween where my kids trade 95% of their candy for new toys. Usually big ass Lego kits or something.

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1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

I'm more laughing at going to the ghetto grocery store and asking where the kale and quinoa and coconut aminos are?

Why’d you have to paste coconut aminos? You knew how to spell fuckin quinoa but aminos was too much? 

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14 minutes ago, B00M said:

Why’d you have to paste coconut aminos? You knew how to spell fuckin quinoa but aminos was too much? 

Because I honestly had no fucking idea what it was.

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1 hour ago, Larry T. Spider said:

I can’t find it now but I recently read an article about picky eaters and how it’s seen as a sign of low socio economic status in the business world. Definitely tracks with what Brisket posted. I don’t think you have to be that adventurous but you shouldn’t be the one constantly vetoing restaurants. You should be able to find at least a few things you like at just about any restaurant - and not on the kids menu.

I recently took a person that works in the same field to happy hour/early dinner to discuss some business opportunities. She couldn’t find anything she liked and at bread and butter. Also, quite overweight. Second invite got lost in the mail.

She was hoping you would think her being fat was a glandular issue and not because she eats like a pig.

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36 minutes ago, Deej said:

She was hoping you would think her being fat was a glandular issue and not because she eats like a pig.

Even when I was in a hard core deficit to lose weight, I could find something decent that won’t screw up my day at pretty much any restaurant.  Even fast food places in a pinch.  Get a grilled chicken sandwich with mustard and skip fries.  Mexican food places— taco salad and cut out cheese and sour cream while not eating shell and using salsa as dressing.  Or just have them grill you up some chicken and slice up an avocado.  Salads with vinaigrette and chicken or salmon won’t kill you.  

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On 7/1/2021 at 12:52 PM, South Austin said:

This doesn't surprise me one bit.

I saw this documentary recently called Fat Fiction.  It's primarily about the myth of dietary fat that originated in the 1950s and 1960s and started our country on the road to higher carb diets, which then turned into higher sugar and higher processed food diets.  There's a lot of interesting physiological and nutritional information, but it touches on how the American food industry has unapologetically turned us into a nation of fatties.  It's on Amazon Prime and I highly recommend it.  Plus, it makes you feel better about eating a lot of bacon.

I watched a fascinating documentary about Australian aborigines.  They showed movies from the 1960s of the first encounter with a distant bush tribe.  Being hunter gatherers, they were constantly on the move and so very physically active.   And if what you tried to catch escaped you, you didn’t’ have dinner that night.  Every one of those people had a BMI that looked like the dude saying, “look at me - I’m the captain now.”

they then interviewed current members of the tribe. Every woman would give Vic a Boner.    To a person, they were morbidly obese and suffering from diabetes and various heart problems.  The government convinced them to quit trapping around miles a day after lizards - and to stay in a village and get free processed food.

The lesson was simplistic, but deadly accurate.

 

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2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I watched a fascinating documentary about Australian aborigines.  They showed movies from the 1960s of the first encounter with a distant bush tribe.  Being hunter gatherers, they were constantly on the move and so very physically active.   And if what you tried to catch escaped you, you didn’t’ have dinner that night.  Every one of those people had a BMI that looked like the dude saying, “look at me - I’m the captain now.”

they then interviewed current members of the tribe. Every woman would give Vic a Boner.    To a person, they were morbidly obese and suffering from diabetes and various heart problems.  The government convinced them to quit trapping around miles a day after lizards - and to stay in a village and get free processed food.

The lesson was simplistic, but deadly accurate.

 

Very similar to some of the southwestern Native American tribes. In Arizona the obesity rate is 81%. Would be interesting to study their metabolism after generations of surviving on minimal calories.

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4 hours ago, Larry T. Spider said:

I can’t find it now but I recently read an article about picky eaters and how it’s seen as a sign of low socio economic status in the business world. Definitely tracks with what Brisket posted. I don’t think you have to be that adventurous but you shouldn’t be the one constantly vetoing restaurants. You should be able to find at least a few things you like at just about any restaurant - and not on the kids menu.

I recently took a person that works in the same field to happy hour/early dinner to discuss some business opportunities. She couldn’t find anything she liked and at bread and butter. Also, quite overweight. Second invite got lost in the mail.

Its the socio-economic thing and being a PITA to everyone around you and making them feel like they put you out by including you.  Also (and I love good food), not every meal has to be perfect and it tells me your parents never made you “eat several bites” so as not to be rude to your aunt or church friend.  Being able to politely eat something you don’t love is a sign of a grownup.

Also, I look down on you in group outings if you’re making too much fuss over substitutions and shit. “Hold the mayo” is fine, so is “can I have salad instead of fries.” But be prepared to accept “no” or a surcharge and find something on the goddam menu you can choke down. 
 

A business or work outing? Fucking suck it up, order something similar in price to what others are getting, and don’t be the one acting different. 

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Like others, I feel so much better when I lose 10 lbs but I can talk myself into being bad with food for a few weeks and gain 5 back before I know it. Crazy how we so often don't do want makes us feel the best.

I've also noticed that many have talked themselves into saying that they look the best when they're overweight and how bad they would look if they dropped to their high school/college weight. Perhaps I don't want to be at 140 like at some points in high school but I'm not happy at 180. for reference, I'm 5'9".

Not to mention that almost every study says its much healthier overall to be lean. Talking about people in 1st world countries.

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