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God fucking damnit motherfucker. I've been happily lurking on this board for years but your disgusting fucking verbal flatulence about "but but but he's winner and he hurt his thumb :(" have forced me

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Texas and Oregon put the CFB world on tilt with their respective NIL efforts. Many alumni bases are reacting pragmatically and trying to build something competitive of their own that fits their specif

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Color me surprised that people promising NIL as enticement have not followed through at all and those who have done everything by the book have set expectations that will be met.  It's almost lik

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2 minutes ago, cafe society said:

This guy would appear to be manna from heaven were he to transfer here.  Would be instructive to learn why he is in the portal.  I don't know anything about playing/evaluating OL but @Burt Macklin  @Fud and @golfclap  do.  Love to get their thoughts.

First off Drayton didn't offer him so that's already a positive for golfclap to appreciate. lol

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Don't know if this has been posted. Wisconsin lineman Kayden Lyles with 16 starts, former 4 star transferring

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/cfb/offensive-lineman-

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OFFENSIVE LINEMAN KAYDEN LYLES TRANSFERRING FROM WISCONSIN

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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Wisconsin offensive lineman Kayden Lyles says he’s transferring.

Monday that he plans to go elsewhere for his final season of eligibility.

“Though my time as a Badger has come to an end on the field, I’ll forever be thankful to the fans, coaches, staff and — especially — to my teammates for all of their support,” Lyles said.

Lyles made a combined 16 starts on both sides of the line for Wisconsin. He started seven games at defensive end in 2018, four at left guard in 2019, four at center in 2020 and one at center this season.

He appeared in five games this season, sitting out the last two.

It's the second straight week a Wisconsin player has revealed plans to transfer. Wide receiver/kick returner Devin Chandler entered the transfer portal last week.

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33 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

We need to get all up in SoCal's guts this and next cycle.

That may be easier said than done if SoCal lands a decent name at coach. Much like Texas, USC gets the benefit of the doubt until their coaching staffs prove to be completely inept. 

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Don't know if this has been posted. Wisconsin lineman Kayden Lyles with 16 starts, former 4 star transferring

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/cfb/offensive-lineman-

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OFFENSIVE LINEMAN KAYDEN LYLES TRANSFERRING FROM WISCONSIN

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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Wisconsin offensive lineman Kayden Lyles says he’s transferring.

Monday that he plans to go elsewhere for his final season of eligibility.

“Though my time as a Badger has come to an end on the field, I’ll forever be thankful to the fans, coaches, staff and — especially — to my teammates for all of their support,” Lyles said.

Lyles made a combined 16 starts on both sides of the line for Wisconsin. He started seven games at defensive end in 2018, four at left guard in 2019, four at center in 2020 and one at center this season.

He appeared in five games this season, sitting out the last two.

It's the second straight week a Wisconsin player has revealed plans to transfer. Wide receiver/kick returner Devin Chandler entered the transfer portal last week.

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He's had multiple serious injuries.

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On 10/26/2021 at 2:29 PM, Hornlover said:

He's far from "a must at this point". 

Entering the portal in October is like firing your coach in October. The only reason you do it is to either to extricate yourself from an untenable situation, or to get out in front of everybody else cause you don't want to be left without a date to the prom.

If the Wisconsin dude is in the portal now, it's probably because he sucks and is hoping he can get picked up before other more legitimate options enter the portal. There's months til the end of season, and there are only 32 roster spots to fill. 

if I was a blue chip or elite CFB player, I’d remove, add, like, and follow all kinds of shit on social media just to fuck with 50 year-old minds. 

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Some comments from Nahlin here about the portal - posting the entire article for posterity

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Practices have been going well to the point Sark called it 20 minutes early on Tuesday.

IT asked what makes a “good practice” and heard back, “high level of focus, few mental mistakes, players holding each other accountable, and intensity.” The bye week has been mentioned as a big positive factor.

We’ll say this for the team, they seem resilient given the way the last two games finished. The players don’t believe they should have lost to either of the Oklahoma teams and they’re bent on playing up to their abilities.

This is all stuff you might expect to hear but we’ve heard much worse in the past after tough losses.

At times this week the coaches have really slowed things down in order to teach. This mainly pertains to scheme to ensure players are on the same page.

The coaches have had the team do a fair amount of good on good and that’s taken place at the very end of practice. The coaches want them as tired as possible to simulate the 4th quarter when they have to draw on reserves.

Speaking of drawing on reserves of a different kind, one source mentioned freshman defensive tackle Byron Murphy as a possible breakout candidate against Baylor. That makes sense for a couple of reasons: 1) he’s showed promise since day-1 and has already flashed ability on the field this year, and 2) he should be able to highlight his quickness and athleticism defending against Baylor’s wide zone scheme.

While things are going mostly well, we are in the era of the Portal. You may have even felt the Portal begin to rumble to life in recent days.

To reiterate what we’ve said in the past, Texas should always win the trade war between imPorts and exPorts and IT believes that will be especially true in the coming 8 months. However, Texas will also lose a few good players, mostly due to culture change. A couple players, while talented, just don’t bring it often enough and a slight fracture is showing between player and coach at a couple of positions.

Names aren’t important now and things can always change. Two strong examples of that were wide receiver Devin Duvernay and defensive tackle Chris Nelson. Maybe a couple wins would help things.

One transfer IT has reached out to is Syracuse wide receiver Taj Harris. He says he hasn’t heard from UT but would like to. They must feel pretty good about wide receiver next year.

Here’s your takeaway for now: The coaches are going to be very active in the Portal and Texas will have a stronger program for it.

 

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A couple players, while talented, just don’t bring it often enough and a slight fracture is showing between player and coach at a couple of positions.

Names aren’t important now and things can always change. Two strong examples of that were wide receiver Devin Duvernay and defensive tackle Chris Nelson. Maybe a couple wins would help things.

What is this bullshit? 

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

All these kids portaling now because there is nothing to play for the rest of the season for these teams? Seems kinda strange since once you enter the portal you essentially are no longer on the team. 

Keeping the majority of your locker-room happy when your team is .500 or worse is a helluva lot harder for CFB coaches nowadays...

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Maybe if there’s any validity to this it will calm all the fucking assholes that wanna burn sark and pk at the cross for not playing the “talent” lol. If the more talented player doesn’t try very hard what are the coaches suppose to do? 

I was in Vegas once with my buddies for a weekend of watching college football, gambling, and chasing women. Baylor was actually in town and playing UNLV. They had a new HC at the time, Kevin Steele. With the final seconds ticking down and Baylor up by a few, Steele called a running play for Baylor at the goal line instead of kneeling. Baylor, a hapless program for years at the time, fumbled, a UNLV player scooped the ball up, and ran it back like 99 yards as time expired. UNLV won. 

Steele, surrounded by reporters and cameras in the locker room afterward, was literally crying while talking to reporters. He said he wanted to "set a tone for the program" and, hilariously, if he had it all to do over again, he'd do it the exact same way every time. God, it was glorious. I laughed so hard I almost vomited. But, hey, Steele accomplished his goal - he certainly "set a tone" for his program.

Mack Brown was recruited away from Tulane to take over a hapless North Carolina program. The young coach came in and decided that he didn't like the environment or culture that he saw. He started to fix it by cleaning house. He ran off something like 35 players before year one. UNC immediately went 1-10 and 1-10 in consecutive seasons, going 0-7 in the ACC in year two. To cap season two off, UNC lost to archrival Duke at home, 41-0. Duke's then head coach, Steve Spurrier, had the team take a team photo at the opponent's stadium posing in front of the scoreboard while the embarrassed crowd looked on. Tarheel fans moan about that shit to this day.

Mack Brown has since confessed that those two years were the hardest coaching years of his life. He cried in his car in the parking lot on multiple occasions after embarrassing shellackings. "Never again" he says he swore to himself about tearing a program down to the studs. In that era, at a school that's never cared much about football, he survived his decision to "set a tone", but it's doubtful he gets that same chance to survive today. When he came to Texas, he went in another direction and did not push players off the roster until year two, once he had his recruiting classes coming in and knew what he had on his roster.

Charlie Strong came to Texas and, coincidentally, decided he didn't like the culture or "tone" of the program he inherited from Mack Brown. So he decided to "set a tone" and started the changes by driving off roughly 15 players ahead of his first season, many of them starters or probable starters. In what turned out to be one of a litany of unforced errors, the attrition decimated the roster and the depth and talent levels never recovered during the brief but painful Strong era. 

In reality, teaching lessons or "setting a tone" to the talented players on the roster by playing lesser talent in some sort of quixotic "noble" coaching quest to get the more talented guys in line remains a fool's errand. In addition to it simply being folly to attempt to gain buy-in by benching, today's CFB world of big business and the transfer portal simply means that this kind of shit can be ruinous at an even faster pace. 

If Sarkisian is dumb enough to think his program will ultimately be better off by benching Alfred Collins for Jett Bush, or Ford and Gbenda for Brockermeyer, we'll get to suffer the consequences as fans, for no payoff, and watch this idiot and his crew stumble around aimlessly for 4 seasons until we can wave goodbye. And guess what, that's exactly what's happening. It's already started, and dipshits like you are applauding it as it happens.

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25 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I was in Vegas once with my buddies for a weekend of watching college football, gambling, and chasing women. Baylor was actually in town and playing UNLV. They had a new HC at the time, Kevin Steele. With the final seconds ticking down and Baylor up by a few, Steele called a running play for Baylor at the goal line instead of kneeling. Baylor, a hapless program for years at the time, fumbled, a UNLV player scooped the ball up, and ran it back like 99 yards as time expired. UNLV won. 

Steele, surrounded by reporters and cameras in the locker room afterward, was literally crying while talking to reporters. He said he wanted to "set a tone for the program" and, hilariously, if he had it all to do over again, he'd do it the exact same way every time. God, it was glorious. I laughed so hard I almost vomited. But, hey, Steele accomplished his goal - he certainly "set a tone" for his program.

Mack Brown was recruited away from Tulane to take over a hapless North Carolina program. The young coach came in and decided that he didn't like the environment or culture that he saw. He started to fix it by cleaning house. He ran off something like 35 players before year one. UNC immediately went 1-10 and 1-10 in consecutive seasons, going 0-7 in the ACC in year two. To cap season two off, UNC lost to archrival Duke at home, 41-0. Duke's then head coach, Steve Spurrier, had the team take a team photo at the opponent's stadium posing in front of the scoreboard while the embarrassed crowd looked on. Tarheel fans moan about that shit to this day.

Mack Brown has since confessed that those two years were the hardest coaching years of his life. He cried in his car in the parking lot on multiple occasions after embarrassing shellackings. "Never again" he says he swore to himself about tearing a program down to the studs. In that era, at a school that's never cared much about football, he survived his decision to "set a tone", but it's doubtful he gets that same chance to survive today. When he came to Texas, he went in another direction and did not push players off the roster until year two, once he had his recruiting classes coming in and knew what he had on his roster.

Charlie Strong came to Texas and, coincidentally, decided he didn't like the culture or "tone" of the program he inherited from Mack Brown. So he decided to "set a tone" and started the changes by driving off roughly 15 players ahead of his first season, many of them starters or probable starters. In what turned out to be one of a litany of unforced errors, the attrition decimated the roster and the depth and talent levels never recovered during the brief but painful Strong era. 

In reality, teaching lessons or "setting a tone" to the talented players on the roster by playing lesser talent in some sort of quixotic "noble" coaching quest to get the more talented guys in line remains a fool's errand. In addition to it simply being folly to attempt to gain buy-in by benching, today's CFB world of big business and the transfer portal simply means that this kind of shit can be ruinous at an even faster pace. 

If Sarkisian is dumb enough to think his program will ultimately be better off by benching Alfred Collins for Jett Bush, or Ford and Gbenda for Brockermeyer, we'll get to suffer the consequences as fans, for no payoff, and watch this idiot and his crew stumble around aimlessly for 4 seasons until we can wave goodbye. And guess what, that's exactly what's happening. It's already started, and dipshits like you are applauding it as it happens.

You are such a pussy.

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I was in Vegas once with my buddies for a weekend of watching college football, gambling, and chasing women. Baylor was actually in town and playing UNLV. They had a new HC at the time, Kevin Steele. With the final seconds ticking down and Baylor up by a few, Steele called a running play for Baylor at the goal line instead of kneeling. Baylor, a hapless program for years at the time, fumbled, a UNLV player scooped the ball up, and ran it back like 99 yards as time expired. UNLV won. 


Why lie about such a a glorious fuckup by Baylor? The game was in Waco. Did you think "bragging" about chasing dirty leg in Vegas would make you seem cooler, or make your rant more credible?

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Why lie about such a a glorious fuckup by Baylor? The game was in Waco. Did you think "bragging" about chasing dirty leg in Vegas would make you seem cooler, or make your rant more credible?

 

 

 

 

It was like 20 years ago, calling me a liar over not remembering the location correctly is a choice, I guess. 

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Why lie about such a a glorious fuckup by Baylor? The game was in Waco. Did you think "bragging" about chasing dirty leg in Vegas would make you seem cooler, or make your rant more credible?

 

 

 

 

Not one to defend CTJ but I think he was watching it from a casino, not at UNLV stadium

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48 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I was in Vegas once with my buddies for a weekend of watching college football, gambling, and chasing women. Baylor was actually in town and playing UNLV. They had a new HC at the time, Kevin Steele. With the final seconds ticking down and Baylor up by a few, Steele called a running play for Baylor at the goal line instead of kneeling. Baylor, a hapless program for years at the time, fumbled, a UNLV player scooped the ball up, and ran it back like 99 yards as time expired. UNLV won. 

Steele, surrounded by reporters and cameras in the locker room afterward, was literally crying while talking to reporters. He said he wanted to "set a tone for the program" and, hilariously, if he had it all to do over again, he'd do it the exact same way every time. God, it was glorious. I laughed so hard I almost vomited. But, hey, Steele accomplished his goal - he certainly "set a tone" for his program.

Mack Brown was recruited away from Tulane to take over a hapless North Carolina program. The young coach came in and decided that he didn't like the environment or culture that he saw. He started to fix it by cleaning house. He ran off something like 35 players before year one. UNC immediately went 1-10 and 1-10 in consecutive seasons, going 0-7 in the ACC in year two. To cap season two off, UNC lost to archrival Duke at home, 41-0. Duke's then head coach, Steve Spurrier, had the team take a team photo at the opponent's stadium posing in front of the scoreboard while the embarrassed crowd looked on. Tarheel fans moan about that shit to this day.

Mack Brown has since confessed that those two years were the hardest coaching years of his life. He cried in his car in the parking lot on multiple occasions after embarrassing shellackings. "Never again" he says he swore to himself about tearing a program down to the studs. In that era, at a school that's never cared much about football, he survived his decision to "set a tone", but it's doubtful he gets that same chance to survive today. When he came to Texas, he went in another direction and did not push players off the roster until year two, once he had his recruiting classes coming in and knew what he had on his roster.

Charlie Strong came to Texas and, coincidentally, decided he didn't like the culture or "tone" of the program he inherited from Mack Brown. So he decided to "set a tone" and started the changes by driving off roughly 15 players ahead of his first season, many of them starters or probable starters. In what turned out to be one of a litany of unforced errors, the attrition decimated the roster and the depth and talent levels never recovered during the brief but painful Strong era. 

In reality, teaching lessons or "setting a tone" to the talented players on the roster by playing lesser talent in some sort of quixotic "noble" coaching quest to get the more talented guys in line remains a fool's errand. In addition to it simply being folly to attempt to gain buy-in by benching, today's CFB world of big business and the transfer portal simply means that this kind of shit can be ruinous at an even faster pace. 

If Sarkisian is dumb enough to think his program will ultimately be better off by benching Alfred Collins for Jett Bush, or Ford and Gbenda for Brockermeyer, we'll get to suffer the consequences as fans, for no payoff, and watch this idiot and his crew stumble around aimlessly for 4 seasons until we can wave goodbye. And guess what, that's exactly what's happening. It's already started, and dipshits like you are applauding it as it happens.

Unfortunately neither choice is great. You can either let malcontents fester and fuck up the team for everybody else - and possibly stay in mediocrity for perpetuity, or you can get rid of them and suffer through rebuilding and hope to god that you can get in the guys that will perform. It's way harder to do that now, having to compete with schools paying players and social media/HS player networks funneling recruits to winning schools.

I'm guessing Sark bet on himself - thinking he could scheme his way to victory while he used guys like Bush and Brockermeyer to set the tone early - and he figured that once the team saw the team winning with the "try hard" players, that the attitudes would change. Unfortunately, we lost with those guys on the field. So now, we either find out that he's willing to play the malcontents (practice shitty/don't show up to meetings/whatever), or that the light bulb maybe turned on for those guys and they've earned their spots.

I'm as pissed as anybody that we threw away two (possibly three) games in the second halves because we couldn't adjust scheme/got tired/whatever. But I'm not yet willing to say Sark is a total disaster that will never succeed, since we've obviously seen flashes in the first halves of games. 

 

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14 hours ago, Big Woodrows said:

To reiterate what we’ve said in the past, Texas should always win the trade war between imPorts and exPorts and IT believes that will be especially true in the coming 8 months. However, Texas will also lose a few good players, mostly due to culture change. A couple players, while talented, just don’t bring it often enough and a slight fracture is showing between player and coach at a couple of positions.

I don't know why Nahlin wants to dance around it like he's got some crazy inside info. It's widely acknowledged that there are several guys at DE/DT and at CB/NB that were tempted to portal after spring and talked down. It's also well known that more guys have joined that side of the fence than have gotten on board with this staff. This defensive staff has a personnel problem and the perception among not only the current players on the roster but among trainers and recruits (as well as staffs recruiting against Texas) is that Texas isn't playing it's best 11. You can talk at length about culture, effort, and attitude and yada yada but you can't instill a "true culture of competition" and at the same time reward effort over actual result -  cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. 

Prime example - Jimmy Johnson had an actual true culture of competition and winning in his locker rooms at The U and at Dallas. Attitude, effort, and buy-in mattered but Jimmy also knew that Orwell was right everyone is created equal but some are more equal than others. Emmitt Smith notoriously skipped tons of practices and held out to avoid the off-season grind. Does anyone here think he was a locker room problem for his attitude and effort? Does anyone think Johnson's culture was negatively impacted by Smith? Does anyone think Johnson should've played Sherman Williams over Emmitt Smith? No. Competition means the best guy wins. You can do this ad nauseam with every single sport and it's best coaches and players. Ideally we'd all want the guys to be VY and all 105 guys challenging to working harder than anyone else but that's not reality.  It's a hell of a lot easier to hardline it when your depth chart actually features actual depth but when you set your culture by playing full on fucking spares because they give effort - you aren't building a culture of competition - you are building a culture of compliance. Quite simply you aren't teaching Alfred Collins (and to that end the entire roster) that effort matters by playing Jett Bush over him - because Bush at 100% effort is still not better than Collins at 75% effort - you are teaching that being his guy matters more than being good. Ditto with Foster, Brockermeyer, Thornton. It's not teaching competition that's teaching compliance. Kitan, Jaylan Ford, Adimora, Gbenda, T'Vondre, Barron. 
 

Here's the great secret to coaching at a Blue Blood vs. coaching anywhere else. Steve Sarkisian wasn't hired to install his offense and Kwiatkowski wasn't hired to install his defense - they were hired to win football games. There is no "wait and get his guys in and get the system in place" at a blue blood.  You don't get 5 patient years. Win. That's the job. 

 

 

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It was like 20 years ago, calling me a liar over not remembering the location correctly is a choice, I guess. 
Whatever. The fact Steele made that colossal fuck up at home in front of the soon-to-be rape enablers makes the story even better than if it were on the road. Your location adds nothing, but apparently you felt the loss on a one in a million play that was purely the result of an idiotic call was somehow even greater if we all knew you were in Vegas at the time. Yay, big baller.
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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

In reality, teaching lessons or "setting a tone" to the talented players on the roster by playing lesser talent in some sort of quixotic "noble" coaching quest to get the more talented guys in line remains a fool's errand. In addition to it simply being folly to attempt to gain buy-in by benching, today's CFB world of big business and the transfer portal simply means that this kind of shit can be ruinous at an even faster pace.

I didn't see ctj's post before mine - but yes. This has always been the case but the portal exacerbates it. 100%

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