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2 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Woodard and Adeoye just entered yesterday, I think Thompson, Johnson, and Ghirmai will for sure go, the rest who knows. 

Dixon is the mystery man to me, I still can't figure out how the guy can't get on the field at the end of the season. Some have said it was mental, but holy shit dude, I think one play we lined up the nacho vendor.  

Just go watch him stop his route against ISU and watch as the ball goes sailing by him. Would have been a 1st down, not the game wasn't over by then. He's a terrific athlete that has no idea how to play WR.

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1 hour ago, Tex-19 said:

No way McCord transfers right? He’s gotta think the #2 / future starter job is his to lose. 

I've heard the following from people connected at OSU: McCord had the head start and seemed like a forgone conclusion Ewers would transfer once he arrived. He came in a bit out of shape, had effort and personality issues with the coaching staff... it was a mess. Yet here we are at the end of the season and the belief is Ewers has a potentially significant edge on McCord and would be the large betting favorite to replace CJ as starter in '22 were CJ able to go pro now. Then throw in Devin Brown into the mix (basically a lock there; I really fucking hope Sark was smart enough to have a Plan D, E and maybe F...), who many believe has more raw talent than McCord and a full year to develop before the competition truly starts? 

TLDR Ewers came in with disadvantages and the people who cover them on the daily seem to think Ewers has already passed McCord. I would think if McCord is self aware he sees that also. Fully expect he transfers if Brown picks OSU and that seems like a ~90% likely outcome currently. 

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4 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

I've heard the following from people connected at OSU: McCord had the head start and seemed like a forgone conclusion Ewers would transfer once he arrived. He came in a bit out of shape, had effort and personality issues with the coaching staff... it was a mess. Yet here we are at the end of the season and the belief is Ewers has a potentially significant edge on McCord and would be the large betting favorite to replace CJ as starter in '22 were CJ able to go pro now. Then throw in Devin Brown into the mix (basically a lock there; I really fucking hope Sark was smart enough to have a Plan D, E and maybe F...), who many believe has more raw talent than McCord and a full year to develop before the competition truly starts? 

TLDR Ewers came in with disadvantages and the people who cover them on the daily seem to think Ewers has already passed McCord. I would think if McCord is self aware he sees that also. Fully expect he transfers if Brown picks OSU and that seems like a ~90% likely outcome currently. 

Well that would be a kick in the nuts not getting Ewers or Brown. Still not sure why Brown would pick OSU in that situation to sit for 2-3 years. 

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6 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

I've heard the following from people connected at OSU: McCord had the head start and seemed like a forgone conclusion Ewers would transfer once he arrived. He came in a bit out of shape, had effort and personality issues with the coaching staff... it was a mess. Yet here we are at the end of the season and the belief is Ewers has a potentially significant edge on McCord and would be the large betting favorite to replace CJ as starter in '22 were CJ able to go pro now. Then throw in Devin Brown into the mix (basically a lock there; I really fucking hope Sark was smart enough to have a Plan D, E and maybe F...), who many believe has more raw talent than McCord and a full year to develop before the competition truly starts? 

TLDR Ewers came in with disadvantages and the people who cover them on the daily seem to think Ewers has already passed McCord. I would think if McCord is self aware he sees that also. Fully expect he transfers if Brown picks OSU and that seems like a ~90% likely outcome currently. 

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5 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Well that would be a kick in the nuts not getting Ewers or Brown. Still not sure why Brown would pick OSU in that situation to sit for 2-3 years. 

Brown would only sit the one year. CJ is a sophomore absolutely going pro after '22. So Brown and Ewers would battle it out for the starting gig that Spring with the loser transferring. Brown was prepared to sit for at least a year at USC as well before he got on our radar. Not trying to be a downer but the OSU situation seems at least at face value to be playing out in the worst possible way for us. 

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3 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

I'd take McCord.

But would McCord take us? No obvious ties there.

7 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

Brown would only sit the one year. CJ is a sophomore absolutely going pro after '22. So Brown and Ewers would battle it out for the starting gig that Spring with the loser transferring. Brown was prepared to sit for at least a year at USC as well before he got on our radar. Not trying to be a downer but the OSU situation seems at least at face value to be playing out in the worst possible way for us. 

Sitting for a year and then transferring the following spring would mean he’s likely sitting two years bc you need that spring to have a shot at the new school. Just like if Ewers transfers after this spring. Then he still has to hopefully find a good option with no entrenched starter. That won’t be USC, hopefully not UT, and not most top programs. Alternative is UT where he’d be the favorite to start day 1. 

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3 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

Have we let the coaches know about Logan Kendall? I just wanna see him truck an ou LB

As soon as he hit the portal, I sent a message disguised as a dick pick to Jeff Banks via Pole Assassin in order to make sure I am in compliance, but to also make him aware of the situation. 

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4 hours ago, mvlonghorns said:

Is McCord good? Is it that Ewers is just that special or that McCord sucks? He is from PA so no ties to us that I can immediately see.

I think Ewers is really that good.  I had not heard the out of shape deal,  but knew something wasn't clicking with the staff.  If that's worked out I can't see anyone beating him out when their QB leaves. 

The irony is that Texas makes a lot of sense for Ewers,  he could come in and start right now.  Don't think that's happening but not impossible. 

If Quin stays it has to help us with with Brown.  

 

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9 minutes ago, Laga4 said:

I think Ewers is really that good.  I had not heard the out of shape deal,  but knew something wasn't clicking with the staff.  If that's worked out I can't see anyone beating him out when their QB leaves. 

The irony is that Texas makes a lot of sense for Ewers,  he could come in and start right now.  Don't think that's happening but not impossible. 

If Quin stays it has to help us with with Brown.  

 

Well Brown's twitter is hinting at him making a move, which would favor tOSU currently since we haven't visited yet.

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10 minutes ago, texifornia said:

CenTex kid who can catch: https://247sports.com/Player/Beau-Corrales-83183/

 

 

Looks like he's had serious injury issues.  Played in 5 games in 2020.  Missed 7, and then all of 2021.  

 

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UNC WR Beau Corrales Confirms New Surgery
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CHAPEL HILL, N.C. --- Beau Corrales confirmed on Thursday what his head coach alluded to earlier in the week. He's not going to be ready to play any time soon. The North Carolina super senior wide receiver has undergone another surgery, he announced on Twitter on Thursday evening.

"A rollercoaster of progress and setbacks this past year left me in need of a 3rd surgery a week out from our first game," Corrales posted in a statement. "It's safe to say that my return for a 5th year isn't going how I had planned, but I am going through this as a reminder that life rarely goes according to plan ...

"I still have so much to give to this game and I'm still hungrier than ever to get back on the field, but in the meantime, I am grateful and excited to have the opportunity to cheer such a special team on."

Corrales appeared in five games and made two starts in 2020 before opting to undergo surgery to repair a sports hernia that had plagued him since before the season started. The Georgetown, Texas native missed the last seven games of the season and finished with 13 catches for 238 yards and one touchdown. Corrales, who has totaled 80 receptions for 1,176 yards during his UNC career, decided to use the extra year of eligibility to come back for the 2021 season.

"I'm not supposed to get into injuries with Beau -- we would have to have medical people do that," Mack Brown said on Monday. "They've told us to stay in our lane. But we do hope to get him back before the season's over."

In the absence of Corrales, the Tar Heels -- who are tasked with replacing most of its wide receiver production from a year ago -- are expected to start Emery Simmons and Antoine Green in the outside receiver positions in Friday night's season opener at Virginia Tech.

"Right now we've got Emery Simmons, who is playing great football, with Antoine Green, who is playing great football," UNC offensive coordinator Phil Longo said on Monday. "We have Khafre Brown, Dyami's brother, who's running around. He's probably as fast if not faster in than Dyami. He's definitely a vertical threat."

Brown has been limited in the preseason by a lower body injury suffered in the spring.

 

 

 

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Texas beat Kansas State last week. You may have forgotten because an awful lot has happened since then.

There were a few interesting dimensions to the game for Texas, who had to play a different lineup in order to put their best foot forward and have a chance to win this game. As it turned out, the game was really won for them when Kansas State’s “Skylar Thompson can’t play…” contingency was to have Deuce Vaughn do everything while Will Howard got a couple of option reads to pull the ball on stretch or to pull it and throw a bubble screen or hitch.

Anyways, we got to see more of players who will be important in 2022 such as linebackers Jaylan Ford and David Gbenda and offensive lineman Hayden Conner. Everyone has opinions on what Texas needs to do in order to reshape a roster that just went 5-7. To have an immediate impact, you generally need to look to the portal to add veterans who can start immediately. As you dive into portal recruiting madness over the coming months, consider the following…

Texas’ roster strengths

There are a number of positions on this team which are in really good shape. Texas’ 5-7 record and second-to-last finish in the Big 12 was really more indicative of a mentally weak team lacking leadership than a bottom shelf Big 12 roster. Texas’ point margin in Big 12 games was -9. They lost five games by a possession, were blown out once, blew out a team, and won two games by a single possession. In other words, they were right there with everyone else in the league and lacked the leadership on the field to make a few key plays here or there to turn the tide and win.

Many of the strengths are obvious, we’ll start with the two biggest, deep threat wide receiver and running back. A deep threat wide receiver is one of the most valuable positions an offense can field. It’s not as difficult to run the football when the defense is worried about staying on top of an elite receiver and it’s much easier to get a possession receiver open underneath. You can score points in bunches when there’s a true deep shot dimension to the offense.

Xavier Worthy in year one was already one of the best wide receivers Texas has fielded this century and stands to improve considerably in 2022 for a number of reasons, not least of which is the opportunity to hone his craft in his first full offseason with Steve Sarkisian.

Benefitting underneath from the attention Worthy can draw is one of the nation’s better running back rooms. Bijan Robinson is as special a back as you’ll find, Roschon Johnson is a hard-nosed back-up who specializes in the Wildcat, Kielan Robinson brings a homerun threat, and Jonathon Brooks could be the next feature back after Bijan goes pro. Two things Sark wants to do on offense are chuck it deep and run over whatever the defense leaves in the box with a power run game. You can scarcely do better at the tip of the spear than Xavier Worthy and Bijan Robinson.

On the other side of the ball, defensive tackle is another strength. Texas could see some big revisions to the roster with a number of players’ future up in the air, but they’re likely to at least return Alfred Collins, Moro Ojomo, Vernon Broughton, Byron Murphy, and Sawyer Goram-Welch while adding several talented freshmen in the incoming class.

It wasn’t obvious this season how solid Texas’ interior D-line was because the rest of the defense had so many issues, but they’re a very talented group and could be the envy of the league next season with a good offseason and some adjustments around them.

Those are three really nice strengths to have as a roster and Texas can definitely stand out in the Big 12 with a deep threat receiver and strong interior D-line if they build around them more effectively than they did in 2021. Adding another deep threat receiver would be terrific, it’s hard to have too many if you’re going to major in run game, RPOs, and play-action. So they would do well to add another, but it’s already a strength. Speaking of positions where Texas would do well to add…

An upgrade would be nice but not essential…

It’s very difficult to upgrade an offensive line through the transfer portal. If you’re 6-foot-4, 300+ pounds, and a legitimate athlete with skill and grit in the blocking game, you’re almost definitely starting for your current team and consequently aren’t looking for a new program. There are exceptions, potential transfers in the portal from Wisconsin and Alabama could be reasonably surmised to be talented players with the ability to help a team like Texas.

Generally the best transfers on the O-line are G5 and FCS players moving up who have already been dominating at a lower level, not the P5 transfer who can’t find a starting spot anywhere on the line. The good news for Texas is they are more in need of talent and depth along the offensive line than immediate starters. The 2020 class added four linemen to the program who all could still prove valuable but 2021 added just two more. Back-filling the 2021 class with some extra talent would be unquestionably valuable for this team.

Texas is quietly pretty solid on the offensive line, despite the common perception about the current state of the program. They aren’t nationally elite, but they don’t need to be elite. Honestly, they don’t even need to get close to being elite until they reach the SEC. Who had the best offensive line in the Big 12 this season? Certainly wasn’t Oklahoma State, who’s favored to win the title. Perhaps their competition in the title game, the Baylor Bears? The Bears were dreadful on the O-line last year and made a massive leap by adding transfers from Buffalo and Vanderbilt, changing schemes, improving the coaching, and developing the existing roster.

The Longhorns were an awful lot better than the 2020 Baylor Bears on the O-line in 2021 and return Christian Jones, Jake Majors, and Junior Angilau as full-time starters and Andrej Karic and Hayden Conner as up and comers. Any good additions would be helpful but between those five and whatever they can get from another year of coaching Jaylen Garth, Logan Parr, Isaiah Hookfin, and Max Merrill could reasonably produce a good line. Again, the need is more for depth and a talented 2022 class to build the future than for a complete overhaul and line change across the five.

It’s a similar tale at wide receiver. With another year of coaching, the group of Marcus Washington, Kelvontay Dixon, Troy Omeire, Jaden Alexis, Casey Cain, Dajon Harrison, and Jordan Whittington (if he doesn’t move positions) is certainly liable to produce some contributions. You can’t count out young receivers, particularly for roles like “possession receiver,” “no. 2 double move target when teams bracket Worthy,” and “RPO target.”

Those are roles which tend to be more about technical skill and schematic knowhow than pure athleticism. Should Texas aim to add a star receiver through the portal? Absolutely. But they could have the best offense in the league without one if the names above develop like they should in a strong program.

I’ve probably already lost some people by detailing how the offense isn’t too far away and doesn’t need a quick fix, but the next two may be even more controversial. Texas isn’t in terrible shape, roster-wise, at any of the defensive back positions. Particularly not if they add 5-star football player Jordan Whittington to the safety room. The problem isn’t the athleticism or even necessarily the skill of the defensive back room. Would the unit be better if they added a star like Eli Ricks from LSU? Yes, a press-man cornerback is worth his weight in gold.

Overall, the problem on the back end was a combination of:

  • Incohesive play
  • Passive scheme (you shouldn’t play both your cornerbacks AND your safeties at depth)
  • An obvious struggle to give the safeties simpler rules and positioning to support the myriad of fronts and stunts Pete Kwiatkowski was running.

Toward the latter end of the year, and when it was reported in the Humidor how things worked in Washington, it was clear why the marriage wasn’t working. Blake Gideon wanted to disguise coverages, Terry Joseph wanted to play back in quarters, and Pete Kwiatkowski had a soft brand of quarters installed while running a wide variety of fronts and stunts which could spill the ball in different fashions. Add the extra chaotic element of poor linebacker fits on the edge and interior and you had a recipe for total disaster. The safeties had too much on their plates and were ineffective.

Overall a room with D’Shawn Jamison, Jahdae Barron, Kitan Crawford, and Ishmael Ibraheem at corner and then Anthony Cook, Jerrin Thompson, Chris Adimora, and J.D. Coffey at safety should be capable of being one of the top units in the Big 12.

Finally, tight end is an interesting position for Texas heading into 2022. Jared Wiley retweeting the news of Billy Napier’s hire at Florida along with a cryptic tweet about new beginnings has to make one wonder if he plans to be back in burnt orange next season. Cade Brewer will definitely be moving on after using up his eligibility. For the staff to aim to add a tight end shouldn’t be a great shock.

The style of tight end they brought in, should they do so, would be pretty indicative of where the offense is heading in 2022. A more RPO-heavy attack wouldn’t need as much emphasis on blocking in 12 personnel as we saw in 2021, which combined with a good offseason from Gunnar Helm in the blocking game could allow Texas to look to add more explosiveness.

Texas must open the portal and find…

Texas wasn’t very good at inside linebacker in 2021. I think it’s possible they could solve the issue by moving Roschon Johnson from running back and continuing to coach up Jaylan Ford, David Gbenda, Luke Brockermeyer, and to a lesser extent Devin Richardson. Perhaps moving Jett Bush here would also solve some of their problems.

The problem is it’s not clear they have an impact player at inside linebacker unless DeMarvion Overshown returns and has a healthy offseason. In that case, Texas could be in pretty good shape. Barring Roschon or Overshown coming to rescue, they’d do well to at least add a veteran through the portal from a lower level who knows how to find the ball without a four-count created by defensive holding up front.

Texas also needs to get substantially better on the edge next season. You can’t be a good 3-4/2-4-5 defense without really good outside linebackers and you will struggle to name a team who made the Big 12 Championship in the last few years who couldn’t get to the quarterback with their base 3/4-man pass-rush. Here’s how Washington’s linebackers performed statistically in the final full season of Pete Kwiatkowski’s coordination (2019) compared to Texas’ linebacker play in 2021.

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Texas actually had MORE production from their inside linebackers than did the 2019 Huskies, but this was largely because they played a lot of 3-4 defense with essentially three defensive tackles playing in front of them and asked those tackles to eat blocks and hold linemen so the linebackers would have a chance.

Add up the totals and you have 29 tackles for loss and 19 sacks from the Husky front and 32 tackles for loss but only nine sacks from the Texas group. Also, the Huskies barely played any base 3-4 defense in 2019 so they effectively have one fewer player contributing to these cumulative totals than the 2021 Longhorns.

The last point is the key. Texas had to play a lot of base 3-4 defense because their Edge players (Oghoufo and Thornton) weren’t big and couldn’t box in the edges effectively. This lead to limited coverage options behind them, as you can’t ask a true outside linebacker like Oghoufo to do more than a few things, and also less speed on the field to run down ballcarriers when someone inevitably missed a run fit.

Whether Texas overhauls the scheme next season with a new staff or runs back the same base fronts, they badly need Edge defenders. The Longhorns return Oghoufo, Jett Bush, and Alfred Collins if he sticks at Jack linebacker. There are several candidates in the freshman class, but the Edge position in a 3-4 defense has a lot of responsibilities and it’s not a simple role to master for underclassmen. From last year’s class they have Barryn Sorrell (6-foot-3, 246 pounds), David Abiara (6-foot-4, 256 pounds), and D.J. Harris (6-foot-2, 226 pounds).

Improvement is a must but Texas could get a massive boost by adding a pass-rushing Edge through the portal if one could be found. Finally, there’s one other position which would have a massive impact on the 2022 Longhorns. In an offense with Bijan Robinson commanding defensive attention against the run, Xavier Worthy running behind defenses out wide, and Sark orchestrating it all, a solid pro-style passer should easily throw for 3,000 yards.

Casey Thompson with another year in the system and a healthier right thumb could obviously be effective. However his smaller frame, limited arm strength, and limited pocket awareness give him very little margin for staying healthy and maximizing in this system. Hudson Card showed flashes but didn’t put it all together and also managed to incur a multi-week injury in limited action. While he demonstrated more ability than many thought with his opportunities, he also quietly revealed a poor knack for protecting himself.

If Texas could add a good, ready-made pocket passer for spring practice they could at least insure themselves against a transfer or lack of growth from the current two signal-callers and potentially be adding an All-Big 12 candidate.

The easiest way for Sark to help Texas out of their current hole is to lean into his own strengths as an offensive play-caller and quarterbacks coach and field a 3,000-yard passer who weaponizes the Longhorn roster and allows them to win blowouts and shootouts regardless of whether the defense improves to a top 40 unit or not. The portal has produced such players before. We’ll see what Santa can do for Texas this Christmas.

 

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Man we really need the QB musical chairs to start going. Single biggest need for us easily right now Obviously everyone knows tOSU is overloaded but a few other rooms I have my eyes on:

USC - Slovis (who hasn't been great since his first year in 2019), top 100 2021 recruit Jaxson Dart (current starter), top 100 2021 Miller Moss, and of course potentially Caleb Williams. 

Miami - a RS Freshman locked down the job and balled out after King went down, but they also have top 50 2021 Jake Garcia sitting on the bench. Also lost their OC and might lose HC

UGA - Bennett, JT Daniels, Brock Vandagriff (top 20 2021, currently 4th string), Carson Beck (2020), incoming Gunner Stockton

Washington - less likely one but top 15 2021 Sam Huard is there being a RS Fr starter and the new coach may bring that Fresno transfer QB with him

According to 247 Sark recruited all of those 2021s at Bama except Huard. 

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Man we really need the QB musical chairs to start going. Single biggest need for us easily right now Obviously everyone knows tOSU is overloaded but a few other rooms I have my eyes on:

USC - Slovis (who hasn't been great since his first year in 2019), top 100 2021 recruit Jaxson Dart (current starter), top 100 2021 Miller Moss, and of course potentially Caleb Williams. 

Miami - a RS Freshman locked down the job and balled out after King went down, but they also have top 50 2021 Jake Garcia sitting on the bench. Also lost their OC and might lose HC

UGA - Bennett, JT Daniels, Brock Vandagriff (top 20 2021, currently 4th string), Carson Beck (2020), incoming Gunner Stockton

Washington - less likely one but top 15 2021 Sam Huard is there being a RS Fr starter and the new coach may bring that Fresno transfer QB with him

According to 247 Sark recruited all of those 2021s at Bama except Huard. 

I don't think we should care about recruiting rankings all that much in the portal- I think you have got to go with someone who proved themselves productive in their time in college.  Card was highly rated.  I don't want someone that's been on the bench (guy like Ewers excepted) I want a guy who has led a team and done so successfully.  Boyd does a good job pointing out all the advantages on offense.  We just need someone smart- decisive with the ball and who doesn't step on their own dick and throw the ball out of bounds when they see Xavier Worthy with nobody within 20 yards of him against Baylor.  We need a senior grad transfer from Louisiana Tech or Mike Leach or some such shit- just a guy that might not be really big, might not have a huge arm but isn't a gaping vagina, has commanded a huddle and a locker room before and doesn't miss easy shit.  

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Go tamper with the guy at Coastal Carolina.  If he's not interested introduce him to our NIL program.  If that doesn't work then go call the guys at Western Kentucky, Fresno, Nevada, UH etc.  Those guys have all played.  They've all put up numbers. I'm sure that they have all sorts of lacks from a pro perspective or an athletic perspective but we have got to have competence as a floor in the QB room and one of those guys as a stop gap 1 year type while we chase real upside and wait for Arch is fine.

If we don't shit down our leg at the QB position we likely go 8-4 or something like that and this season looks a lot different.  That's what we need next year. Basic competence and signing a former top 100 guy that's been riding pines isn't the way to guarantee said competence.  

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