2022 Transfer Thread - It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

[gmr548 16580]

54 minutes ago, Big Woodrows said:

Agiye Hall

There is literally zero positive from the staff having confidence on a player. That's basically the death blow. Their best recruiting wins this year fell into their lap.

[Tex-19 2872]

1 minute ago, quigley said:

I think that's what Caleb and Mario Williams were doing.

For sure. The token visits also give him more NIL negotiating leverage.

1 minute ago, Octavian said:

I mean… if we match or beat the USC offer, he gets to play in a Sarkisian offense with Quinn Ewers throwing to him, Xavier Worthy on the other side, Bijan Robinson in the backfield. I’m not sure we’re really lacking for anything vs. USC here except maybe California women/weed/weather.

If we matched then sure it could happen esp with Marion. But would we really match $2-3 mil? Seems highly doubtful. And don't forget USC has some good selling points too - Caleb Williams, Riley offense, Mario, Hollywood, etc. 

My totally uninformed prediction - he takes 3-4 visits including us and Alabama. We offer him something like $1 mil. Alabama makes it interesting. He ends up at USC as expected all along.

[Barbacoa 1934]

11 minutes ago, chad.ihrig said:

We wouldn’t pony up $600k for Mathis, by all accounts the biggest position of need. Why the hell would we pay Addison $3M or whatever is being reported for a position of well, greed?
Other than the ‘eff LR’ vibe.




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Just think about how much easier Addison is to pitch to someone. It’s why we haven’t had issues getting $$$ together to keep Worthy, to get Neyor, to get Ewers, to make a competitive bid to Manning. Our donors know Sark can coach offense, so they may jump on board with the idea of let’s build the best offense we can and see what happens. 
 

I mean it does sound like C Williams has been talking to Addison for a long time so we may not have a real shot, but if we do I can see our donors matching his other offers.

The $$$ issue with us is are people willing to donate to just general needs for the team? Not as much. Are they willing to donate to something sexy like reuniting Addison with Marion and pairing him with Worthy? Possibly. That would likely be the best WR duo in Texas history. If you donated, you could tell your other rich buddies you helped make that happen.

[Wulaw Horn 19070]

10 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

Just think about how much easier Addison is to pitch to someone. It’s why we haven’t had issues getting $$$ together to keep Worthy, to get Neyor, to get Ewers, to make a competitive bid to Manning. Our donors know Sark can coach offense, so they may jump on board with the idea of let’s build the best offense we can and see what happens. 
 

I mean it does sound like C Williams has been talking to Addison for a long time so we may not have a real shot, but if we do I can see our donors matching his other offers.

The $$$ issue with us is are people willing to donate to just general needs for the team? Not as much. Are they willing to donate to something sexy like reuniting Addison with Marion and pairing him with Worthy? Possibly. That would likely be the best WR duo in Texas history. If you donated, you could tell your other rich buddies you helped make that happen.

Yeah- it’s going to be like baseball up in here. You get some base level shit at big time U for the guys in spots 6-25 in a class on the roster (major league minimum), the top 5 in every class get a nice signing bonus, and then you perform and hit FA after year 1 or 2 and go to the draft in year 3. Smart GM’s (head coaches) will be able to value difference makers that are actually worth WAR and work to sign those guys, and the collectives doing shit like 50k-100k to everyone on scholarship needs to work to fill out the rest of the roster and keep the depth that you want to keep in the program here until they get their chance and get paid the big bucks. 
I think UT won’t act like the dodgers but rather like the Cubs. Big market team content to cash checks and not get really serious about competing at the top of the market most of the time. But maybe, when the stars line up make the push to put it over the top. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20872]

38 minutes ago, chad.ihrig said:

We wouldn’t pony up $600k for Mathis, by all accounts the biggest position of need. Why the hell would we pay Addison $3M or whatever is being reported for a position of well, greed?
Other than the ‘eff LR’ vibe.




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It helps that Addison is about 10 times the football player Mathis is, and that Addison could score 20+ touchdowns in this offense.

[Bevo14 8311]

34 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

there is a school of thought that the way to fix the system is for us to go scorched earth and win like motherfuckers.   

"oh, what? wait, you mean you guys like rules and shit?  Well I'll be a monkey's uncle! Get over here you little rascals(gives noogie to aggy). Lets grab a beer and have a talk."

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

2 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

It helps that Addison is about 10 times the football player Mathis is, and that Addison could score 20+ touchdowns in this offense.

We would also have a real shot to have the first WR and RB taken which would be huge for recruiting

[NoName 16351]

49 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Idk if these are the "concerns" they're referring to, but some 247 posters were freaking out a couple days ago bc Hall deleted his UT commitment tweet. 

wildasses gonna wildass.

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

27 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

Just think about how much easier Addison is to pitch to someone. It’s why we haven’t had issues getting $$$ together to keep Worthy, to get Neyor, to get Ewers, to make a competitive bid to Manning. Our donors know Sark can coach offense, so they may jump on board with the idea of let’s build the best offense we can and see what happens. 
 

I mean it does sound like C Williams has been talking to Addison for a long time so we may not have a real shot, but if we do I can see our donors matching his other offers.

The $$$ issue with us is are people willing to donate to just general needs for the team? Not as much. Are they willing to donate to something sexy like reuniting Addison with Marion and pairing him with Worthy? Possibly. That would likely be the best WR duo in Texas history. If you donated, you could tell your other rich buddies you helped make that happen.

Anybody have a read on the tax implications on NIL? In theory if we are within 10% of USC then we are equal or greater in value. Since it is being paid for their likeness I assume they would not be taxed like pro athletes based on where each game is played. 

[RollLeft 5045]

6 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Anybody have a read on the tax implications on NIL? In theory if we are within 10% of USC then we are equal or greater in value. Since it is being paid for their likeness I assume they would not be taxed like pro athletes based on where each game is played. 

It is not pay for play, sir.

[Newy25 7668]

1 hour ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Pretty much everyone on here assumed that Washington was processed - but IT at least has made it seem that this was Washington's decision.

I don’t think he was forced out like Harrison. I’m sure the staff would have wished Washington and Dixon had stayed. 

[The Beast 585]

3 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Are you 9? It’s been the same narrative since Charlie was here. So yea it’s tiresome to hear.

This is to much for you.

[NevaLost 284]

3 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

A&M athletes are confused about what you mean by “tax implications” from NIL.

They're very familiar with what's known as the Uncle tax. 

[BurntOrange&White 39932]

Looks like barbacoa is already doing work!

 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2022 by BurntOrange&White

[Hiphopopotamos 20872]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Looks like baracoa is already doing work!

Barracuda?

 

[Sgt. Slaughter 2841]

2 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

A&M athletes are confused about what you mean by “tax implications” from NIL.

 

Ever heard of 501(c)(3)? Nerd.

[Hookem2147 21273]

Brandon Harris already followed Addison.

Basically means he's a Texas lock

Edited May 3, 2022 by Hookem2147

[Barbacoa 1934]

Was just told the staff has been way ahead on this one thanks to Marion. We are in the mix boys.

[BurntOrange&White 39932]

Just now, Hookem2147 said:

Brandon Harris already followed Addison.

Basically means he's a Texas lock

SHIT! Hopefully he unfollows soon.

[Tex-19 2872]

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

Brandon Harris already followed Addison.

Basically means he's a Texas lock

But has he tweeted and deleted anything about it yet?

[Hookem2147 21273]

2 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

Was just told the staff has been way ahead on this one thanks to Marion. We are in the mix boys.

So it's safe to say this recruitment is.......on the 1-yard line?

[BurntOrange&White 39932]

Just now, Hookem2147 said:

So it's safe to say this recruitment is.......on the 1-yard line?

[Octavian 1025]

4 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

Was just told the staff has been way ahead on this one thanks to Marion. We are in the mix boys.

Get in the muthafucka!!!

[ousux 5597]

The 2022 aggy recruiting class will be a target for future tampering in Nov, Dec, and Jan.  My concern is teams will also go after several 2022 freshmen OL that Texas just signed in February...  

Guarantee you there are seeds already being planted in the minds of some of them, I'd be shocked if the whole lot make it to the '23 season wearing burnt orange. Of course same goes for nearly everyone aggy reeled in..not just one position group.

[utexas8 1437]

Was just told the staff has been way ahead on this one thanks to Marion. We are in the mix boys.

Fire up the petition!

[BurntOrange&White 39932]

Per Hummer...

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

Just now, ousux said:

7 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

The 2022 aggy recruiting class will be a target for future tampering in Nov, Dec, and Jan.  My concern is teams will also go after several 2022 freshmen OL that Texas just signed in February...  

Guarantee you there are seeds already being planted in the minds of some of them, I'd be shocked if the whole lot make it to the '23 season wearing burnt orange. Of course same goes for nearly everyone aggy reeled in..not just one position group.

For schools like Texas getting them on campus is the biggest thing. Once we have them we will almost always have the opportunity to match any offer they receive. Schools like Pitt and the like will have a tough time once their stars start asking for a bump in pay

[Hiphopopotamos 20872]

7 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

But has he tweeted and deleted anything about it yet?

 

[RGBIII 22840]

11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Looks like barbacoa is already doing work!

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

Was just told the staff has been way ahead on this one thanks to Marion. We are in the mix boys.

 

But I am sure USC would love for anyone to believe that to avoid tampering charges or an investigation of some sort, even one into the collective that put an insane number in front of the kid. I do not foresee any single current Texas collective coming anywhere near that number for 1 dude after we just took two others from the portal and had to pay to keep one out of them. Zero chance, prove me wrong

[Tex-19 2872]

1 minute ago, ousux said:

7 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

The 2022 aggy recruiting class will be a target for future tampering in Nov, Dec, and Jan.  My concern is teams will also go after several 2022 freshmen OL that Texas just signed in February...  

Guarantee you there are seeds already being planted in the minds of some of them, I'd be shocked if the whole lot make it to the '23 season wearing burnt orange. Of course same goes for nearly everyone aggy reeled in..not just one position group.

At some point schools may start realizing they're better off waiting until after year 1 to offer big money to guys. Because if you get them out of high school, you have to re-up every single year to keep them (if they're good). If you poach them after their freshman year, they no longer have that free transfer which pretty much kills any leverage they have to re-up.

[BurntOrange&White 39932]

1 minute ago, RGBIII said:

 

 

But I am sure USC would love for anyone to believe that to avoid tampering charges or an investigation of some sort, even one into the collective that put an insane number in front of the kid. I do not foresee any single current Texas collective coming anywhere near that number for 1 dude after we just took two others from the portal and had to pay to keep one out of them. Zero chance, prove me wrong

I like this strategy!

 

[closetojumping 62719]

3 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

 

 

But I am sure USC would love for anyone to believe that to avoid tampering charges or an investigation of some sort, even one into the collective that put an insane number in front of the kid. I do not foresee any single current Texas collective coming anywhere near that number for 1 dude after we just took two others from the portal and had to pay to keep one out of them. Zero chance, prove me wrong

I know everyone is talking about USC, but I told you guys the other night that Bama thinks they're getting him. He's been the guy that I've heard alluded to as the prime example of their approach on tampering, for months. So the USC stuff might be right, but I don't think this one is fait accompli. 

[RGBIII 22840]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

I know everyone is talking about USC, but I told you guys the other night that Bama thinks they're getting him. He's been the guy that I've heard alluded to as the prime example of their approach on tampering, for months. So the USC stuff might be right, but I don't think this one is fait accompli. 

Could def see it....either way it wont be Texas

[HenryJames 66052]

Probably Nebraska.

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I know everyone is talking about USC, but I told you guys the other night that Bama thinks they're getting him. He's been the guy that I've heard alluded to as the prime example of their approach on tampering, for months. So the USC stuff might be right, but I don't think this one is fait accompli. 

Coming to DKR this fall!/clickbait headline

[Wulaw Horn 19070]

17 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

Was just told the staff has been way ahead on this one thanks to Marion. We are in the mix boys.

So, it would be so aggy to pay Evan Stewart $1,000,000 and then watch as we pay $4,000,000 for the top WR in the country, only to see Evan Stewart transfer after catching 6 passes next year.  I mean, seriously, this is Charlie Brown U constantly having the football pulled away at the last minute- this absolutely needs to happen. 

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

Just now, HenryJames said:

Probably Nebraska.

Maybe they will be in it but end up about $600k short

[JOSEYWALES66 1801]

Just now, HenryJames said:

Probably Nebraska.

[MoJames 8244]

22 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Brandon Harris already followed Addison.

Basically means he's a Texas lock

Has Mathis' brother followed him yet?

[Barbacoa 1934]

13 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

 

 

But I am sure USC would love for anyone to believe that to avoid tampering charges or an investigation of some sort, even one into the collective that put an insane number in front of the kid. I do not foresee any single current Texas collective coming anywhere near that number for 1 dude after we just took two others from the portal and had to pay to keep one out of them. Zero chance, prove me wrong

It’s CFC that’s on it. You’d know better than me if they’re capable of matching but I was just told by a mutual friend that we are indeed in the mix. 

[Michael Knight 12977]

5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

No your fucking holistic thought process is the defeatist attitude. Look at every fucking national champion since 2000, they're all dirty programs. Doing anything but what they're doing is literally gimping yourself to be face fucked by the competition who is going above and beyond at all cost. 

If thats the answer then whats the point of even being a Texas fan? If all you care about is winning then pick whatever team wins and if everyone is cheating then whats the point of watching

[Michael Knight 12977]

1 hour ago, chad.ihrig said:

We wouldn’t pony up $600k for Mathis, by all accounts the biggest position of need. Why the hell would we pay Addison $3M or whatever is being reported for a position of well, greed?
Other than the ‘eff LR’ vibe.




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Because Mathis wasn't that good?

[TotallyLegit 3053]

39 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

Was just told the staff has been way ahead on this one thanks to Marion. We are in the mix boys.

"Ohhh nooo, does that mean Marion tampered?!?"

Edited May 3, 2022 by TotallyLegit

[Barbacoa 1934]

10 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

If thats the answer then whats the point of even being a Texas fan? If all you care about is winning then pick whatever team wins and if everyone is cheating then whats the point of watching

 College football is just a battle of resources. That’s a battle we can win, and I would take great pleasure in seeing us do so. 

[SydneyCarton 48106]

I gotta tell you, I just wasted 45 minutes of my life skimming through the last 20 pages of this shit, and so many of you stupid fucks have your heads shoved so far up your ass it's impressive. And that includes some fucking purported NIL experts and insiders who are all hat and no fucking cattle. That I fucking know. For a board of purportedly smart people, recruitniks, and mostly fucking attorneys by all accounts you'd think some of you would have taken the extra 30 minutes or so to have actually read the NIL and the Texas laws on the matter. Throwing fucking stones are Immamac because he gives a shit about doing it the right way is wildly hilarious for me for two things: 

1.) Integrity is personally important to me, and that's wonderful in this endeavor because IT DOESN'T EFFECT THE BOTTOM LINE AT ALL. We can do things with integrity, and the right way, and guess what, rising tides still lift all ships. A lot of these motherfuckers who have announced deals, like OU, are doing it without the fucking money and trying to spin some plates and hope their donors wake up. Get back to me when those checks start, or stop, being cashed this fall. Because you know what isn't easy? Raising 4.25 million dollars per year for an unproven model using the idea you came up with and explaining it to a bunch of rich, but conservative skeptics, who dont fucking get it. Jesus, most of this board still doesn't understand it and you're supposedly the fucking experts.

2.) Everything you read about #1 is also completely irrelevant. Because donors can pay whatever they fucking want for a fucking autograph of a player, and never have to report a goddam thing to a football compliance board. So while everyone wants to bitch about one NIL business model over another, as long as there is money and that autograph loophole exists, it's all people bitching about the deck chairs in the titanic. Except not really, because it's 2 different things entirely. There's a long term NIL program that will benefit perception and recruiting, and then there's Bobby Lowder rain-makers who are going to show up and make some impact because it's sexy. One has staying power. One does not. 


 

[Michael Knight 12977]

Just now, Barbacoa said:

 College football is just a battle of resources. That’s a battle we can win, and I would take great pleasure in seeing us do so. 

Since when has Texas ever set the market on anything? The narrative is Texas is a  bunch of elitist rich fucks that buy everything but the truth is they are a bunch of miserly old fucks that want to keep their money by not overpaying. As for the rest I'm just trying to figure out the line where it stops being worth it so far the only consensus seems to be don't be a rape factory.

[SydneyCarton 48106]

On 5/1/2022 at 11:21 AM, GreenspointTexas said:

Im an idiot, but how in the fuck do we not have NIL money for every player/recruit on the team lined up? Better yet, how are we getting beat by other schools at this? Fucking clown show

Waiting for your cash, buddy. If we weaponized the small cash contributions of our donor base, we'd be sitting pretty. 

 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10235]

1 hour ago, Tex-19 said:

If we matched then sure it could happen esp with Marion. But would we really match $2-3 mil? Seems highly doubtful. And don't forget USC has some good selling points too - Caleb Williams, Riley offense, Mario, Hollywood, etc. 

In a heartbeat. Top WRs make up for a lot of deficiencies elsewhere. The risk/reward ratio even at that price is going to be hard to beat.

[closetohumping 17442]

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Waiting for your cash, buddy. If we weaponized the small cash contributions of our donor base, we'd be sitting pretty. 

 

He’s not a small contributor.   I’ve seen his check stub

[SydneyCarton 48106]

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

He’s not a small contributor.   I’ve seen his check stub

So have I. That's why I said a small contributor.