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God fucking damnit motherfucker. I've been happily lurking on this board for years but your disgusting fucking verbal flatulence about "but but but he's winner and he hurt his thumb :(" have forced me

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Texas and Oregon put the CFB world on tilt with their respective NIL efforts. Many alumni bases are reacting pragmatically and trying to build something competitive of their own that fits their specif

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Color me surprised that people promising NIL as enticement have not followed through at all and those who have done everything by the book have set expectations that will be met.  It's almost lik

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36 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Do we want them at this point? Sounds like they suck. Tommy giving up 4 sacks in 6 snaps in the Bama spring game is uh.. not good.

Might be an upgrade to what we see happen in Week 2 against that same DL. 

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13 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

God I feel like this is a thousand percent true:

 

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I mean, all of our 9.95ers knew that Ryan Watts was going to Texas days before his name entered the portal (more than 48 hours in fact if I remember right) and to my knowledge Watts never committed to Joseph/Gideon at either OU or OSU since neither coached at those places. 

 

Hall apparently got suspended for shopping around before he actually entered the portal, and considering we were always the favorite it's hard to see how we didn't contact both of these dudes illegally. 

 

Or more accurately "technically" legally on our part, but also true on a lot of the other schools parts too. I do think we're chicken shit still though when it comes to tampering relatively. I really wish we just poached a freshman AA OT or DE or LB or something from like a Wake Forest. 

 

We really could have recruited better options into the portal and we chose not to for whatever reason.

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4 hours ago, TXRed said:

California is the sunshine state, Addison will have no sun on him, Addison to Texas confirmed. 
 

edit: my dumb ass got the Florida and California knicknames mixed up for a second. 

Pittsburgh is one of the least sunny cities in the US. He is obviously saying he is going to suck next year.

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Quick recap - these are names that have been mentioned by some 9.95'ers as Texas 'possibly' having interest in:

WR Jordan Addison - Biletnikoff winner.  Best WR in football.  Linked to USC and apparently working out with Alabama QB Bryce Young in California. Texas has his old WR coach and Barbacoa says we are 'engaging in the pursuit'.

WR Tarique Milton - Iowa St deep threat whose role in the offense has diminished the last two years.  5th year COVID Senior.  Would be a nice guy to have in case of injury to one of our top 4.  Entered the portal back in Nov 21.

Edge Isaiah Land - FCS leading sacker in 2021.  Kind of a one-trick pony who does that one trick (rushing the passer) really well.  Texas leading sacker had 2 sacks last year - this is obviously a position of need.  Entire coaching and support staff currently stalking him on twitter.

S Marvin Grant - RS Junior from Purdue who started for the first time in 2021 and was a breakout player.  76 tackles and 3 PBU's.  Purdue fans were not happy about this transfer.

LB Lorenzo McCaskill - ultra productive player from ULL who has started last two years there.  RS Senior who has racked up 239 tackles in his 4 years at ULL.  Spent one year at JUCO before transferring to ULL.  Has been in the portal since January.

 

Any others?

 

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3 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

There must be more to the story with McCaskill for him to still not have a home. If you are a LB with a pulse and any sort of production, you are usually snatched up very quickly in the portal.

This is from an SI article back in January - quoting McCaskill:

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"There are other offers I haven't put out yet," he said. " There are some I am going to go visit. I am going to Texas on April 1st. I am waiting to set up visits to a couple of others. I am visiting Missouri in March, but I don't know what day yet, and I am going to visit Tennessee as well, and I think that will be sometime in March. I don't have a date for USC and Miami, but Texas, Tennessee, and Missouri are some of the ones I am for sure going to go visit."

Steve Sarkisian's second-year staff in Austin wasted no time in letting McCaskill know that he is a priority. McCaskill and the Ragin' Cajuns played the Longhorns in the first game of the 2021 season, so there was some familiarity there already. 

"We played Texas the first game of the season, and I liked the environment in Austin," McCaskill said of Texas. "I definitely connected with a lot of the players when we were playing. There was a level of respect between both sides."

"Me and Bijan, the running back over there, he is something else—he is going to be a first-round pick—we went at it the whole game," McCaskill added. "He is actually the one that helped set this up and got me the offer over there. We had a level of respect from when we played, and when I went in the portal, he was one of the first ones to go to his coach. I like Texas. That is one of America's teams, and I feel like I could fit in that system. One of the kids I played high school football with and travel football with plays there, so I know him too."

 

https://www.si.com/college/recruiting/football/coveted-transfer-lb-lorenzo-mccaskill-details-upcoming-plans

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1 hour ago, Reese Bennett said:

If I had to blindly list that order, the only thing I'd have wrong is DBs and WRs swapped. This seems to fit both size of units and the assumed psychology of the players in these positions.

My quick and kind of sloppy math has the #1 most likely position to transfer RB. 

In order RB, WR, QB, DB, TE, DL, OL, K, and Punter.. 

 

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Texas has made contact with Purdue transfer Marvin Grant Jr. per a source close to the physical safety. The Longhorns join Kansas, UCLA, Florida, Miami and a few others that have made contact. Grant recently changed majors, and that could impact where he could transfer. IT will continue to monitor.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/marvin-grant-1.html

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1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

Hmm...6'2 210 wonder if he could spin down? Might be too late in his career but worth a shot maybe. 

It was either Gerry or Nahlin. But one of them said he’s what PK wants in a boundary safety. If they get him maybe move Cook back to nickel and Barron replaces Jamison?

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Just now, crash_davis said:

not getting my hopes up. this feels like another Mario Williams going through the motions before I got to USC bullshit.

Sure.  But who the hell knows.  Maybe we have someone gets super pissy about SC and decides to make a "power move".  I mean, I can't believe we would be talking about paying a guy more than he might make as something like the 5th pick in next years draft, but here we are I guess. It really is nuts.  It makes me think that if this year goes well we could get Bijan to stay for his senior year.  
I mean- if the top running back isn't even a 1st rounder anymore, and we are willing to shell out $5,000,000 for a year to a heisman level skill position player why not Bijan?  The year he'd have as a senior in college would be less wear and tear on his body than as an NFL rookie and he'd make more money in college.   I don't suggest that it will happen this way, but I guess I wouldn't rule it out.  

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4 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

not getting my hopes up. this feels like another Mario Williams going through the motions before I got to USC bullshit.

Drew Sanders, Williams, White, etc. I can’t tell if the press uses us or that our coaches are just that gullible. At least we have a link this time around. 

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6 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I mean- if the top running back isn't even a 1st rounder anymore, and we are willing to shell out $5,000,000 for a year to a heisman level skill position player why not Bijan?  The year he'd have as a senior in college would be less wear and tear on his body than as an NFL rookie and he'd make more money in college.   I don't suggest that it will happen this way, but I guess I wouldn't rule it out.  

this is what is happening with back to your basket kind of centers. NBA doesn't use em but they have a TON of value in CBB. The Athletic just did an article on them

betting we see guys who are good at CFB but not so much at NFL take advantage of this like you are saying.

https://theathletic.com/3291258/2022/05/04/nba-nil-ncaa-big-money/

 

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The NBA has left old-school bigs behind. Colleges are using NIL to make them rich: Basketball Business Digest

LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY - FEBRUARY 12: Oscar Tshiebwe #34 of the Kentucky Wildcats celebrates in the second half against the Florida Gators at Rupp Arena on February 12, 2022 in Lexington, Kentucky. (Photo by Dylan Buell/Getty Images)
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Late last month, when Oscar Tshiebwe announced he would return to Kentucky for his senior year, his decision was not surprising, even if it was rare. It had been 14 years since the last time a consensus player of the year came back to college after piling up so many awards, and Tshiebwe is just the second Naismith Award winner in the last 40 years to return to defend his trophy.

While Tshiebwe’s decision was nearly unprecedented, he was just the first in a flood of bigs to say they will stay for at least one more year of school. Michigan’s Hunter Dickinson and North Carolina’s Armando Bacot also agreed to come back for another season of college basketball. While the sport has grown apart at the NBA and college levels over the last decade, April’s slew of returns was just the latest signifier of how widely it has diverged.

The NBA has moved away from the traditional back-to-the-basket big man as its embraced spacing and quick-twitch centers who can provide horizontal and vertical spacing. Yet, as the newly flush Name, Image, and Likeness era has hit college basketball, the divergence may grow even larger, with college now not only a safe haven for the classic big but also a place for them to get paid without having to leave the comforts of a sport that appreciates them but can also pay them.

“It comes down to value,” one college assistant coach said. “It comes down to what your NBA value is. The thing with the bigs is there’s more value to having a big like Oscar Tshiebwe on your roster in college than the NBA because of the space and point and because of how much they value the three-point shot. It just becomes (about) whether you’re a really good player that’s a draftable player or not. There are guys that are very good college players that don’t get drafted in the NBA. I think it gives them more value and gives them more ability to make some money in the age of Name, Image, and Likeness. If you’re a really good big it makes sense to be acknowledged.”

Tshiebwe, Dickinson, and Bacot were all likely to be second-round picks or go undrafted had they entered the NBA draft; only Tshiebwe was ranked in the top 75 of The Athletic’s 2022 big board before their decisions.

Returning to college was always a palatable path to players of that sort, but the new ability to also profit while still in school could create a new chasm in how big men are perceived. While the NBA could continue to throw the cold shoulder, they will have more reason to stay in school rather than leaving early to find the grind of the G League or Europe to build a professional career.

“The old-school back-to-the-basket undersized center who can score a lot of points… they have a potentially really profitable future in college,” one NBA front office person said. “Right now it’s not really something that’s really coveted. It’s a very good thing for them. They’re making a lot of money and probably getting their degree… It’s really a best-case scenario for where the league is.”

Tshiebwe will make upwards of $2 million this upcoming season. Dickinson and Bacot will do well too. The financial upside is only trending up — until and unless the NCAA figures out a way to make its own rules.

That salary would far exceed what Tshiebwe could make in the NBA next season. This season, the 30th pick in the draft made $1.99 million. Second-round picks do not get guaranteed contracts and teams can squeeze them for player-unfriendly deals. They might also land a two-way deal, which paid $462,629 this season but is also not guaranteed.

“As they see more guys have more success in NIL they’ll realize the risk isn’t worth the reward,” the front office person said. “The money is only increasing.”

While the NBA draft has not become less hospitable for bigs over the last few years, it has been that way for less mobile ones or those without a diverse skill set. The college assistant noted that NBA teams also place less of an emphasis on offensive rebounding, a skill which allows bigs like Tshiebwe to dominate at Kentucky.

The second round has become their domain. In 2021, six centers were taken from picks 50-60.

This year, just three centers are ranked in the top 30 of The Athletic’s top 100 prospects; seven land in the next 40 spots. Even Drew Timme, the Gonzaga star, might not get selected.

The trend is unlikely to change any time soon. For bigs like Tshiebwe, Bacot and Dickerson, staying in school is just following the money.

“Especially looking at the playoffs,” one scout said, “it’s so tough being a dinosaur these days.”

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, TheMailBox357 said:

Yeah looks like Land would be 3rd/4th down pas-rush specialist.

Agreed, he likely can't be a full time EDGE guy.  Still, we don't have a single player on the team who can get to the QB that we know of so... he's still pretty fucking valuable to us. 

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1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Sure.  But who the hell knows.  Maybe we have someone gets super pissy about SC and decides to make a "power move".  I mean, I can't believe we would be talking about paying a guy more than he might make as something like the 5th pick in next years draft, but here we are I guess. It really is nuts.  It makes me think that if this year goes well we could get Bijan to stay for his senior year.  
I mean- if the top running back isn't even a 1st rounder anymore, and we are willing to shell out $5,000,000 for a year to a heisman level skill position player why not Bijan?  The year he'd have as a senior in college would be less wear and tear on his body than as an NFL rookie and he'd make more money in college.   I don't suggest that it will happen this way, but I guess I wouldn't rule it out.  

How much would 1 more year of Joseph Ossai have been worth?

 

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