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Sounds like a group of  8 heavily armed Moorish Sovereign Citizens were traveling somewhere in two vehicles. One vehicle broke down.  State police checked them out, then backed off when saw the firearms.  2 Moors stayed in vehicles and 6 ran into woods with their weapons.  
Edit: 2 arrested.  2 in vehicle.  4 in woods.  

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8 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Sounds like a group of  8 heavily armed Moorish Sovereign Citizens were traveling somewhere in two vehicles. One vehicle broke down.  State police checked them out, then backed off when saw the firearms.  2 Moors stayed in vehicles and 6 ran into woods with their weapons.  
Edit: 2 arrested.  2 in vehicle.  4 in woods.  

 

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3 minutes ago, Bender Bending Rodriguez said:

It’s not Moors. It’s Moops. 

Mopes.

I mean, do these fucktards not understand who the Moors were?  Like brown, mooslim, camel-riding types?

Amusing trivia:  every word in Spanish, just about, that starts with Al, is Arabic in origin.

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15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Mopes.

I mean, do these fucktards not understand who the Moors were?  Like brown, mooslim, camel-riding types?

Amusing trivia:  every word in Spanish, just about, that starts with Al, is Arabic in origin.

We talking Morgan Freeman in Robin Hood?

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If that guy in the video is any indication of the rest of them, then they can be charged with illegal transport of firearms & ammo according to Taxachusetts state laws. When traveling through that state, all guns are required to be unloaded in locked containers, I think. Could be wrong though if that state has loosened its laws. (😉)

https://www.mass.gov/info-details/gun-ownership-in-massachusetts#transporting-firearms-in-motor-vehicles-

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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/moorish-sovereign-citizens

Members of the Moorish sovereigns, called Moors, have come into conflict with federal and state authorities over their refusal to obey laws and government regulations. Recently, Moorish sovereign citizens have engaged in violent confrontations with law enforcement. They have also been known to retaliate against government authorities through financial means — a process called “paper terrorism.” Moorish sovereigns espouse an interpretation of sovereign doctrine that African Americans constitute an elite class within American society with special rights and privileges that convey on them a sovereign immunity placing them beyond federal and state authority.

In its own words

“Your straw-man is a non-living, non-breathing fictitious corporate Entity that has the same name as you except in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. It’s ultimately a trust that is brought into existence with your signature. Lawfully you are the executor, beneficiary, administrator and a stock holder of the UNITED STATES CORPORATION.”
–Moorish American Resource School

“Political thieves (usually descendants of European Colonists operating upon the American Continents) have, by outright criminality, taken unlawful leave and advantages of the usurped seats of government, and have polluted the sanctity of their Official Oaths to uphold the Constitution and Treaties and are unlawfully violating the Natural People.”
–Taj Tarik Bey

“Everything that will be stated is based on De Jure Law (Common Law, Constitutional Law, Indigenous Rights, Human Rights) and NOT ("just") admiralty / maritime (De Facto Legalities, such as statutes, codes, rules, regulations, ordinances, policies and etc... ANY colorable law (color of law) that contradicts the Constitution for the united [sic] States of America is NULL and VOID and has NO withstanding [sic].”
–Dr. Alim El Bey

“You are not to pay taxes to foreigners who are doing business within the borders of YOUR ancestral estate.”
–Judah Son

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2 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Honest question - what laws did these guys break?

In every video that I've watched on them, they always escalate a minor conversation with a police officer into being arrested.

As in, pulled over for speeding. Then they either argue constitutional law/obscure court cases with the officer or refuse to even talk with them. The officer only wants their information to write a ticket. 

Sovereign citizens or Moors hang their hat on the idea that they do not need to follow any US or state law. In fact, they're not even persons as they're not incorporated as a person by the US govt. Makes zero sense. They also seem to think that if they use some precise language with officers, the officers will agree that the officers do not have jurisdiction to write a ticket.

If they just get a drivers license, the cops will just write them a ticket and let them go. 

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34 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

If that guy in the video is any indication of the rest of them, then they can be charged with illegal transport of firearms & ammo according to Taxachusetts state laws. When traveling through that state, all guns are required to be unloaded in locked containers, I think. Could be wrong though if that state has loosened its laws. (😉)

https://www.mass.gov/info-details/gun-ownership-in-massachusetts#transporting-firearms-in-motor-vehicles-

Sovereign citizens do not recognize any US or state law, so they don't believe they need to adhere to that law you write of. You can imagine how well it goes when they attempt to explain the finer points of this theory to the state trooper.

I believe that cops look at sovereign citizens as close to being domestic terrorists. So when someone is pulled over and they start to sound like a sovereign citizen, cops act quickly to control the situation. They don't screw around with them.

One funny aspect of their police encounters is that they can actually be very polite with officers. They're not necessarily hostile. The citizens see it as a teaching moment to inform the police officers of the law. You can guess that doesn't turn out well.

Oklahoma traffic stop example: 

 

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11 in custody.   Traveling to Maine for “training”.  When cops pulled up:

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Wakefield police said the incident began when about eight men fled into the woods from a traffic stop on Route 128 near Parker Road shortly after 1a.m.

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They were "heavily armed" with handguns and rifles and "claiming to be from a group that does not recognize our laws," a statement said.

That sets off alarms.  

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30 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Never heard of this group before. 

I thought you helped expel them from Iberia before settling into that engineering project you used to call "The Question"  

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Sovereign citizens do not recognize any US or state law, so they don't believe they need to adhere to that law you write of. You can imagine how well it goes when they attempt to explain the finer points of this theory to the state trooper.

I believe that cops look at sovereign citizens as close to being domestic terrorists. So when someone is pulled over and they start to sound like a sovereign citizen, cops act quickly to control the situation. They don't screw around with them.

One funny aspect of their police encounters is that they can actually be very polite with officers. They're not necessarily hostile. The citizens see it as a teaching moment to inform the police officers of the law. You can guess that doesn't turn out well.

Oklahoma traffic stop example: 

 

Kudos to that Okie cop (can't believe I just typed that). Patient beyond belief with that fuckwad. Is it really worth getting the window of your Corolla busted out & having your $20 fine for not wearing your seatbelt upgraded to an arrest for obstruction of a motorway & who knows how many other things they tacked on to make the bullshit point that you don't identify as an American citizen?

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