Things going on in Cuba...

[Rip76 5022]

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/street-protests-break-out-cuba-2021-07-11/

HAVANA, July 11 (Reuters) - Thousands of Cubans took to the streets from Havana to Santiago on Sunday in rarely seen protests, expressing frustration over economic conditions, the pace of COVID-19 vaccinations and what they said was government neglect.

President Miguel Diaz-Canel, who also heads the Communist Party, blamed the United States for the unrest in a nationally televised speech on Sunday afternoon.

Special forces jeeps, with machine guns mounted on the back, were seen in the capital, Havana, and Diaz-Canel called on supporters to confront “provocations."

Thousands of people gathered in downtown Havana and along parts of the seaside drive amid a heavy police presence. There were a few arrests and scuffles.
 

 

[SimonBolivar 11062]

29 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/street-protests-break-out-cuba-2021-07-11/

HAVANA, July 11 (Reuters) - Thousands of Cubans took to the streets from Havana to Santiago on Sunday in rarely seen protests, expressing frustration over economic conditions, the pace of COVID-19 vaccinations and what they said was government neglect.

President Miguel Diaz-Canel, who also heads the Communist Party, blamed the United States for the unrest in a nationally televised speech on Sunday afternoon.

Special forces jeeps, with machine guns mounted on the back, were seen in the capital, Havana, and Diaz-Canel called on supporters to confront “provocations."

Thousands of people gathered in downtown Havana and along parts of the seaside drive amid a heavy police presence. There were a few arrests and scuffles.
 

 

[AUS-97HORN 12050]

glad to see that even after 62 years, the first response by their governemnt is to blame the US. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

This could be the real deal. Got a call from family that there are protests in their small village, population roughly 100.  This type of shit never happens outside the major cities.   They havent seen unbridled open outrage like this before. 
 

 

Edited July 12, 2021 by Xian

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2 minutes ago, Xian said:

This could be the real deal. Got a call from family that there are protests in their small village, population roughly 100.  This type of shit never happens outside the major cities.   They havent seen unbridled open outrage like this before. 

Yeah, some friends with family in Cuba said the covid shit was really bad (like India or Brazil bad), and the government was playing games and pretending like everything was fine.  They also said there's rumors of only the wealthier/connected folks getting treated, getting vaccines, etc.

It's 2021, so there's always a chance that shit will go sideways and things might actually happen down there.

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If they are attacking police infrastructure/cars like people are saying and video appears to be showing, that's pretty fucking huge.

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[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

For those that dont know, things have gotten BAD there.   Getting close to the “dark days” post soviet union collapse. 
 

You get like one bag of rice a month if you are lucky.   In the past this wasnt a big deal since they could buy supplies in the store from money sent from US kinfolk.

Now the stores are empty. Zero bread, rice, basic staples. Zero medication.  We have to send basic antibiotics and diapers to family via courier (matriarch of the family suffered from an undiagnosed stroke and is now bed ridden).   
 

Shit is bad.  Im really worried about my little 2 year old nephew in havana. He is horribly underweight due to lack of food. we have tried to get him over, but his mom refuses to make the jump. 
 

Thankfully family in the small village can hunt for food (with home made shotguns and shells). They bring in duck hauls that would make a coonass blush. 

Edited July 12, 2021 by Xian

[Rip76 5022]

I just wonder if some big wigs (tired of the shit there), talked to a few people in the US that can get shit done. And the US side said something like “If this is for real this time, we fully have your back.”

Edited July 12, 2021 by Rip76

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1 minute ago, Rip76 said:

I just wonder if some big wigs (tired of the shit there), talked to a few people in the US that can get shit done, and the US side said something like “If this is for real this time, we fully have your back.

If they opened that place up to Americans, with some investments, they'd be pulling in a shitload of tourists (and their money) who are getting antsy about going to Mexico.

Sandals would be pumping out ads left and right.

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

Meanwhile cnn is has a show on talking about the history of sitcoms. 

[Biff Tannen 46150]

Seems like we should be able to mobilize some shit and get some humanitarian shit done if we are for real. Let’s go Biden. Let’s go good people. Not @Incredulity

[Message Board User 12405]

3 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

I just wonder if some big wigs (tired of the shit there), talked to a few people in the US that can get shit done. And the US side said something like “If this is for real this time, we fully have your back.

I can almost guarantee that did NOT happen.

It's interesting and revealing which politicians and celebrities have tweeted out support for the Cuban protesters and which have been silent thus far.

And fuck anyone who says that America is irredeemable.

 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

2 minutes ago, deadshank said:

This thread next stop:  CR

Before then I hope the commie bastards get run out.  Of course, I have no clue who will be in charge thereafter.  
 

Good luck, Cuba. 

That’s my fear. While it’s horrible now, it’s safe. 
 

I don’t want an Arab spring or Mexican narco style Civil war. 

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[futureman 22691]

2 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

It's interesting and revealing which politicians and celebrities have tweeted out support for the Cuban protesters and which have been silent thus far.

go on

[Message Board User 12405]

Just now, futureman said:

go on

Nah.  Would get too CR if I did.  Look for yourself.

[futureman 22691]

3 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Nah.  Would get too CR if I did.  Look for yourself.

I can guess which side of the political aisle is supporting the people. I was just curious which celebrities were speaking up about it. as stupid as that sounds, our vapid culture bows at the altar of celebrities and their social media accounts. their influence is undeniable. 

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[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, some friends with family in Cuba said the covid shit was really bad (like India or Brazil bad), and the government was playing games and pretending like everything was fine.  They also said there's rumors of only the wealthier/connected folks getting treated, getting vaccines, etc.

It's 2021, so there's always a chance that shit will go sideways and things might actually happen down there.

Yeah. Covid has been horrible. The official numbers are crap. The cities have me been under lockdown with armed patrols enforcing curfew. It has gotten so bad that the matriarch’s oldest had to “take a leave” from his job and move to havanna to take care of her.

speaking of which. He is one smart dude.  Had a full ride to MIT for electrical engineering, but the Cuban government last minute decided he was a flight risk and couldn’t go, and sent him to some prestigious university in Moscow.  Life worked out. he runs the local electrical grid in the province next to havanna making a whopping 7 dollars a month. 
Laugh/cry 

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Just now, Xian said:

Had a full ride to MIT for electrical engineering, but the Cuban government last minute decided he was a flight risk and couldn’t go, and sent him to some prestigious university in Moscow.  Life worked out. he runs the local electrical grid in the province next to havanna making a whopping 7 dollars a month. 

Does he have any eligibility left?  I think we have some money in the wreath fund that we could use to bring him here and have him run our grid.

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Supposedly this is even bigger than the 1994 stuff.  El Presidente is asking his supporters to take to the streets and fight the people rebelling.

Would be awesome if this does finally open that place up.  Unfortunate that it takes covid to fuck a lot of things up for them to reach this point.

That AP photographer is smart.  If he had Canon or Nikon gear, it would have already been on its way to a Miami pawnshop, but it's Sony, so nobody cares.

 

Edited July 12, 2021 by atomheartbevo

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@Armybrat would probably approve of this Cuban cop's firearm of choice.  

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[Cajun 11772]

37 minutes ago, Xian said:

Meanwhile cnn is has a show on talking about the history of sitcoms. 

Imagine that.

[MillerEP 30901]

This is awesome, hopefully they keep at it. The less Communists in the world, the better.

[Parliament 14593]

So, without going CR, what is the US Government's best play here?

[DalTxHornFan 3130]

2 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So, without going CR, what is the US Government's best play here?

If being opposed to an oppressive communist dictatorship 90 miles from our shore is CR -- count me as guilty!

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[Rip76 5022]

Honestly I couldn’t believe this was the first “Cuba” thread.

Minus the food thread.

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14 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So, without going CR, what is the US Government's best play here?

Support the overthrow of the current Cuban government, open up Cuban women to Americans.

And tell the Rebels to keep their helmets on.

[Pato del Muerto 53451]

Caribbean spring?

[Rip76 5022]

 

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Caribbean spring?

Crank up the Enya!

[workswithseed 2204]

1 hour ago, Xian said:

For those that dont know, things have gotten BAD there.   Getting close to the “dark days” post soviet union collapse. 
 

You get like one bag of rice a month if you are lucky.   In the past this wasnt a big deal since they could buy supplies in the store from money sent from US kinfolk.

Now the stores are empty. Zero bread, rice, basic staples. Zero medication.  We have to send basic antibiotics and diapers to family via courier (matriarch of the family suffered from an undiagnosed stroke and is now bed ridden).   
 

Shit is bad.  Im really worried about my little 2 year old nephew in havana. He is horribly underweight due to lack of food. we have tried to get him over, but his mom refuses to make the jump. 
 

Thankfully family in the small village can hunt for food (with home made shotguns and shells). They bring in duck hauls that would make a coonass blush. 

It's fucking sad that's the case even before Covid. Seriously, communism is a scourge.

[Doc Reeves 6434]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Crank up the Enya!

That’s a good joke that I hope is properly appreciated 

[Rip76 5022]

5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Crank up the Enya!

Or Billy Ocean

[Ridingtosunset 129]

52 minutes ago, Xian said:

Yeah. Covid has been horrible. The official numbers are crap. The cities have me been under lockdown with armed patrols enforcing curfew. It has gotten so bad that the matriarch’s oldest had to “take a leave” from his job and move to havanna to take care of her.

speaking of which. He is one smart dude.  Had a full ride to MIT for electrical engineering, but the Cuban government last minute decided he was a flight risk and couldn’t go, and sent him to some prestigious university in Moscow.  Life worked out. he runs the local electrical grid in the province next to havanna making a whopping 7 dollars a month. 
Laugh/cry 

That's a 'put shit in perspective story'. Thanks for sharing. 

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They are definitely fucking with cops and getting ballsy

Also, saw some pretty good throws.  Hopefully David Pierce has some folks looking at tape and can get some scouts down there.

Edited July 12, 2021 by atomheartbevo

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Seriously, that is a group of people who have played baseball.

[Royalfan5 2384]

38 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So, without going CR, what is the US Government's best play here?

Given our track record in meddling, might be a spot to let the Cubans handle it themselves 

[Parliament 14593]

That's where I sit.  Let's make sure Venezuela, China, et. al. stay out as well.  Let the Cubans sort it out for themselves.

[DalTxHornFan 3130]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

That's where I sit.  Let's make sure Venezuela, China, et. al. stay out as well.  Let the Cubans sort it out for themselves.

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Kalypso Media, you better be cranking out some new DLC.

 

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[twosheds 379]

So, without going CR, what is the US Government's best play here?

Within the week look for an assassination of an impoverished neighboring island to divert attention away from the rebel uprising. Oh wait, cart before the horse. Oops

[gmr548 16688]

So, without going CR, what is the US Government's best play here?

It’s funny because the only CR-esque content in this thread is people very obviously trying to bait conflict.

Short term you kind of just see where it goes I suppose. The US doesn’t have a ton in the Cuba toolbox outside of using force, which is obviously a really significant threshold.