Things going on in Cuba...

[cmontexas 3270]

I saw a strange thing today. A rebel was being arrested by the military police. And rather than be taken alive he exploded a grenade he had hidden in his jacket.He killed himself and took a captain of the command with him. Now, soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren't.

 

What does that tell you?

 

They can win

[workswithseed 2087]

1 minute ago, cmontexas said:

I saw a strange thing today. A rebel was being arrested by the military police. And rather than be taken alive he exploded a grenade he had hidden in his jacket.He killed himself and took a captain of the command with him. Now, soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren't.

 

What does that tell you?

 

They can win.

Jesus Christ.

[Bevo 13559]

How many troops do we have at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base?

[Rip76 4924]

Just checking back with Fox News and CNN.  Nada.

It’s like the Weather Channel on a Saturday or Sunday, when there is a tornado outbreak across the plains, or a Hurricane approaching Texas, and they are showing “Storm Stories.”  Jeez

[DalTxHornFan 3097]

2 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

Just checking back with Fox News and CNN.  Nada.

It’s like the Weather Channel on a Saturday or Sunday, when there is a tornado outbreak across the plains, or a Hurricane approaching Texas, and they are showing “Storm Stories.”  Jeez

Somehow the expatriate Cuban population in Miami figured it out despite the media blackout!  Libertad!  

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

Just checking back with Fox News and CNN.  Nada.
It’s like the Weather Channel on a Saturday or Sunday, when there is a tornado outbreak across the plains, or a Hurricane approaching Texas, and they are showing “Storm Stories.”  Jeez

Well yea. If it isn’t threatening NYC or DC on a Sunday night…you’ll get reruns and you’ll like it

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

In the World News section:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/americas/cuba-protests/index.html

On the homepage:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-silent-cuban-pro-democracy-uprisings-praising-fidel-castros-communist-policies

Edited July 12, 2021 by Patricio Swayze

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15 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Somehow the expatriate Cuban population in Miami figured it out despite the media blackout!  Libertad!  

8 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Well yea. If it isn’t threatening NYC or DC on a Sunday night…you’ll get reruns and you’ll like it

Apparently the government really is fucking around with trying to shut off internet and the like.

@Parliament you asked what the US government should do?  Setup a shit-ton of cell phone infrastructure on ships just outside of their territorial waters, as well as in Guantanamo Bay, and let the Cubans have some kind of internet access for free.

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Also, we should have her covering what's going on there (I know she's not Cuban, but I do not apologize).

 

[Rip76 4924]

[atomheartbevo 89618]

Unfortunately, it looks like the heat wave and Haiti are some of the big stories, and they are drowning out this coverage.

Most likely the media is not doing much, because

A) they have little in the way of people on the ground there, and no way of getting much, if any out (they media they have on the ground, such as the AP photog, were apparently there for the recent tropical storm/hurricane).

B) they are waiting to see if this fizzles out.

C) Everything going on is in Spanish

There's a shit-ton of stuff on YT if you are a Spanish speaker:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cuba&sp=EgIIAg%3D%3D

 

[Surly Bevo 24908]

35 minutes ago, Bevo said:

How many troops do we have at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base?

A few but they’re all eating breakfast 300 yards from 4000 Cubans trained to kill them. 

Edited July 12, 2021 by Surly Bevo

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[DalTxHornFan 3097]

40 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

I saw a strange thing today. A rebel was being arrested by the military police. And rather than be taken alive he exploded a grenade he had hidden in his jacket.He killed himself and took a captain of the command with him. Now, soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren't.

 

What does that tell you?

 

They can win

That exchange between Michael and Roth was the first thing I thought of when I saw this story happening today.  The movie clip I posted above had lots of other stuff, but it was the only thing that I could find that included that dialogue.

[Gil Bang 25907]

26 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Also, we should have her covering what's going on there (I know she's not Cuban, but I do not apologize).

 

she looks familiar.  I've seen her somewhere before...

 

 

 

 

Let me think.

 

 

 

 

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Didn’t realize that was the Capitol

 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Didn’t realize that was the Capitol

 

Cool fact. It’s a copy of the US Capitol . It also has statues of US presidents (surprisingly still standing) 

Edited July 12, 2021 by Xian

[workswithseed 2087]

1 minute ago, Xian said:

Cool fact. It’s a copy of the US Capitol . It also has statues of US presidents (surprisingly still standing) 

Cool shit.

The Havana Capitol building was built on land that was a railroad terminal and used to belong to the Villanueva Railway. The project began on April 1926, during the Gerardo Machado administration. Construction was overseen by the U.S. firm of Purdy and Henderson. Prior to the Cuban Revolution of 1959, the Congress was housed in the building, the Congress was abolished and disbanded following the Cuban Revolution in 1959 and the building fell into disrepair.

"El Capitolio" has a size of 681 by 300 ft. Although its design is often compared to the United States Capitol, it is not a replica.[1] "It is similar to that in Washington D.C, but a meter higher, a meter wider, and a meter longer, as well as much richer in detail. To finish its construction they needed more than 5000 workers, 3 years, 3 months and 20 days; as well as approximately 17 million American dollars".[2] Completed in 1929, it was the tallest building in Havana until the 1950s. It houses the world's third largest indoor statue.

[atomheartbevo 89618]

Troops apparently in the streets tonight. 

 

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Some local government or party offices being taken over

 

[WhatTheBuck 28771]

4 hours ago, Xian said:

Meanwhile cnn is has a show on talking about the history of sitcoms. 

I tuned into Fox News to see a MyPillow ad and then Trey Gowdy bitching about Biden promoting the Covid vaccine. What’s your point?

[WhatTheBuck 28771]

It’s late night on a Sunday. Who has cameras and reporters on the ground? Jesus, the need for instant gratification can be kind of pathetic. MSNBC has something that sort of looks like Dateline. Boring, couldn’t watch more than a minute. NBC has 1st Look talking about bears. That looked pretty cool. ABC and CBS have nothing. The local Fox affiliate is running reruns of Two and a Half Men. I’m interested but I’m also patient. ‘Eeww, this should be a much bigger story!’ Go to bed and see what we hear tomorrow. Instant reporting is often wrong anyway. 

[MissingInAction 25002]

36 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

It’s late night on a Sunday. Who has cameras and reporters on the ground? Jesus, the need for instant gratification can be kind of pathetic. MSNBC has something that sort of looks like Dateline. Boring, couldn’t watch more than a minute. NBC has 1st Look talking about bears. That looked pretty cool. ABC and CBS have nothing. The local Fox affiliate is running reruns of Two and a Half Men. I’m interested but I’m also patient. ‘Eeww, this should be a much bigger story!’ Go to bed and see what we hear tomorrow. Instant reporting is often wrong anyway. 

A revolution occurring as close to the US as San Antonio is to Austin is pretty big news.

[Bernard 879]

29 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

A revolution occurring as close to the US as San Antonio is to Austin is pretty big news.

It’s not a revolution until the rebels win.

Bernard

[Nicole44 22056]

1 hour ago, Bernard said:

It’s not a revolution until the rebels win.

Bernard

Well said! 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

9 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

glad to see that even after 62 years, the first response by their governemnt is to blame the US. 

Good to see we're still relevant too.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Apparently the government really is fucking around with trying to shut off internet and the like.

@Parliament you asked what the US government should do?  Setup a shit-ton of cell phone infrastructure on ships just outside of their territorial waters, as well as in Guantanamo Bay, and let the Cubans have some kind of internet access for free.

Radio free Calypso 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

We all know the real power behind the Cuban govt. it's Vegas.

if casinos, and gambling ever make it back to Cuba on a scale rivaling Vegas, it's dead.  who wouldn't  choose a beautiful Carribean island 50 miles offshore over that sweltering sand box in the middle of nowhere ?

[GRHorn 105]

So what’s the status of the Cuban people? I’m guessing they’ve been disarmed for a while? Are they going to pull this off with bats and balls?

[WhatTheBuck 28771]

5 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

A revolution occurring as close to the US as San Antonio is to Austin is pretty big news.

And all the news networks are covering it this morning. There’s still not too much that we know about what’s going to come of it. A revolution? That might be jumping to conclusions. All we can do is wait and watch and see what happens. 

[Armybrat 40815]

So, has the Havana market for Che T-shirts been affected yet?

[Nivek 16916]

It’s not a revolution until the rebels win.
Bernard

So they need a Jedi?

[Armybrat 40815]

12 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Immamac, you might as well move this thread now. It’s gonna go US 2nd amendment real quick.

I’m in it for the T-shirts.

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14 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Immamac, you might as well move this thread now. It’s gonna go US 2nd amendment real quick.

It shouldn’t.  It’s a current event and a major one.  Report the offending posts and move on.  

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[atomheartbevo 89618]

They are apparently sending their elite units out to fight the protestors .  Dressed all in black.  

[WhatTheBuck 28771]

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Unprecedented? One report I heard this morning said we haven’t seen protests like these since the 1990’s. And then that was followed by a lot of people fleeing the country.

Edited July 12, 2021 by WhatTheBuck

[atomheartbevo 89618]

6 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Unprecedented? One report I heard this morning said we haven’t seen protests like these since the 1990’s. And then that was followed by a lot of people fleeing the country.

Shit is apparently worse than 94.  Covid is devastating the country.  While the power grid is up and down, hospitals that can’t treat anybody, lack of food, and some other things that have all hit at the same time.  

If they are sending their elite military units to knock down the protests, then today is going to be make-or-break for the protestors.  

Edited July 12, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[Bevo 13559]

32 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Shit is apparently worse than 94.  Covid is devastating the country.  While the power grid is up and down, hospitals that can’t treat anybody, lack of food, and some other things that have all hit at the same time.  

If they are sending their elite military units to knock down the protests, then today is going to be make-or-break for the protestors.  

How many communist regimes have been overthrown by rebels? Radio Free Cuba sounds good, in fact it already exists but is jammed by the Cuban government.

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

8 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I tuned into Fox News to see a MyPillow ad and then Trey Gowdy bitching about Biden promoting the Covid vaccine. What’s your point?

?  No idea what other channels are doing. I don’t have foxnews. I stream via sling and my only 24/4 hour news channel is cnn. I was commenting on how the so called 24 hour news is showing preprogrammed shows instead of a major issue happening 90 miles from our boarder.  No idea why you seem to be making it political. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

So what’s the status of the Cuban people? I’m guessing they’ve been disarmed for a while? Are they going to pull this off with bats and balls?

Country folk make their own guns and  ammo for hunting.   For instance the cousin I was talking about upthread makes his on shotgun shells by melting car batteries for lead.   It’s a crazy impressive setup. 
 

that said, they can’t win against the armed forces. Their own hope is to win the hearts/minds of the military over.   

 

what’s interesting is that the way their armed forces are setup is that if you don’t score high enough on testing when leaving high school you are drafted.  So EVERYONE has close family members in the military. Hopefully this will keep the army from openly firing on protesters.  Hell, most of them hate the government as well due to all the open corruption (even in small towns you see brand new amg benzos with government plates). 
 
the secret police is another thing though. Those fuckers are mean. 

[The Dog 44017]

6 minutes ago, Xian said:

Country folk make their own guns and  ammo for hunting.   For instance the cousin I was talking about upthread makes his on shotgun shells by melting car batteries for lead.   It’s a crazy impressive setup. 
 

that said, they can’t win against the armed forces. Their own hope is to win the hearts/minds of the military over.   

 

what’s interesting is that the way their armed forces are setup is that if you don’t score high enough on testing when leaving high school you are drafted.  So EVERYONE has close family members in the military. Hopefully this will keep the army from openly firing on protesters.  Hell, most of them hate the government as well due to all the open corruption (even in small towns you see brand new amg benzos with government plates). 
 
the secret police is another thing though. Those fuckers are mean. 

That's how things went down in Romania when they overthrew Ceaușescu - the military was reluctant to fire on the protesters and ended up siding with them while the secret police remained loyal. 

[atomheartbevo 89618]

4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

That's how things went down in Romania when they overthrew Ceaușescu - the military was reluctant to fire on the protesters and ended up siding with them while the secret police remained loyal. 

I would assume the Cuban draftees in the military are paid shit, while the secret police are paid quite well.  

[Orale 1087]

Where does Cuba get what little petroleum, food, and other resources the government has now that Venezuela is a failed state?

[Bevo 13559]

2 minutes ago, Orale said:

Where does Cuba get what little petroleum, food, and other resources the government has now that Venezuela is a failed state?

Probably Trinidad and Mexico.

[CHIEF 5075]

1 minute ago, Orale said:

Where does Cuba get what little petroleum, food, and other resources the government has now that Venezuela is a failed state?

I think Venezuela is probably what caused this unrest. With shit going down there, Cuba has been left to fend for itself, and isn't fending too well.

CHIEF

[Cajun 11705]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

They are apparently sending their elite units out to fight the protestors .  Dressed all in black.  

I hope it's nice and hot down there right now.

[Armybrat 40815]

4 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

I think Venezuela is probably what caused this unrest. With shit going down there, Cuba has been left to fend for itself, and isn't fending too well.

CHIEF

I’m surprised the Chinese haven’t stepped in to fill the void. They already have people assets in Panama & Venezuela.

[Bevo 13559]

3 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

I think Venezuela is probably what caused this unrest. With shit going down there, Cuba has been left to fend for itself, and isn't fending too well.

CHIEF

Yeah, tourist dollars from Europe were very limited due to COVID. Supplies from communist countries were limited due to COVID also. Then Venezuela is a mess and isn't helping. And I assume Trump ended the Obama travel and trade agreements and Biden hasn't reversed them yet. So, money isn't flowing in and Cuba doesn't produce a hell of a lot for export.

[CHIEF 5075]

1 minute ago, Armybrat said:

I’m surprised the Chinese haven’t stepped in to fill the void. They already have people assets in Panama & Venezuela.

They probably didn't see this brewing. It seems to have been pretty spontaneous. Seems like a great time to lift the embargo, and flood Cuba with some humanitarian relief with every other MRE containing a loaded subcompact 9mm.

CHIEF