Things going on in Cuba...

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1 minute ago, XYZ said:

“PPP”?

Figured there had to be a philosophy forum here.  We got a lot of deep thinkers come September.

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5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm following these folks:

• https://twitter.com/CharliePena88
• https://twitter.com/mjorgec1994
• https://twitter.com/Aduana_Cuba (normally Cuban-related parody/memes, but they are going hard in the paint)
• https://twitter.com/Yusnaby
• https://twitter.com/JimenezEnoa
• https://twitter.com/ShinjiTheCuban (normally memes, but he's got a lot of contacts, and he's trying to verify rumors with actual videos/photos)
• https://twitter.com/14ymedio (some media site for Cubans)

Those folks seem to be trying to post legit stuff.

Also: 

• SOSCuba Hash on Twitter (lots of spam, lots of fake shit, but when something big happens, it trends briefly)

You're keeping surly up to date   Keep up the good work.

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This is outside the Cuban embassy in Argentina.

Probably won't have much of an impact, but every little bit is chipping away at the Cuban leadership.

 

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42 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Not that anyone will watch the video to hear what she says but it continues to be said by Cubans…also boobs. 
 

 

Is "Doe's eyes" a filter on Snaponeoffchat? Not kinkshaming. 

• These Cuban protests are not getting media traction. The world news indicates these are sporadic outbreaks of demonstrations. Humanitarian/Covid relief offered has been offered to the nation.
• The lawlessness in Florida (based on a new law in Florida) is becoming news.
• And a reminder: under the laws of war, foreign combatants may be summarily executed. FAFO, I suppose.
• Interesting example news media silos in the United States. (AI)

Fuck the Caudillo Castro commies. The people need food and supplies - and vaccinations. A lot of misery for fellow humans. It's a good place for NGO's to prove their worth - to humanity. Good time to get involved with one. Like every nation, the people need shots in arms.

No politics intended. 

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8 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

These Cuban protests are not getting media traction. The world news indicates these are sporadic outbreaks of demonstrations.

The problem is most of the media organizations don't have anybody on the ground (and they aren't going to get anybody on the ground), and clearance and context/providence, although clearance is less of an issue - I doubt any Cubans would mind if their stuff was running on BBC or whatever.

I think the bigger issue with existing videos, plenty of which are pretty damned compelling, is probably a context/providence thing.  Most are pretty gun-shy these days about running such videos without knowing exactly when and where they were taken.  

But some of them are also so short, there's not much actually happening, or it's hard to provide a context to viewers.

And.....people aren't being gunned down left and right.  But I think if we get a solid video of people being gunned down or something of that nature, it'll gain traction.

Actually I blame the people filming in portrait instead of landscape.

 

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9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The problem is most of the media organizations don't have anybody on the ground (and they aren't going to get anybody on the ground), and clearance and context/providence, although clearance is less of an issue - I doubt any Cubans would mind if their stuff was running on BBC or whatever.

I think the bigger issue with existing videos, plenty of which are pretty damned compelling, is probably a context/providence thing.  Most are pretty gun-shy these days about running such videos without knowing exactly when and where they were taken.  

But some of them are also so short, there's not much actually happening, or it's hard to provide a context to viewers.

And.....people aren't being gunned down left and right.  But I think if we get a solid video of people being gunned down or something of that nature, it'll gain traction.

Actually I blame the people filming in portrait instead of landscape.

 

CNN still has the one reporter Patrick Oppmann who has been living in Havana for the past 9 years. He had tweeted about 9 hours ago that twitter was still working (at least for him). He's got some decent stuff. Something to add to your twitter-ers that you are following already. He's been following the government program on tv right now...still no mention of unrest...

 

 

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Actually I blame the people filming in portrait instead of landscape.

no doubt.

It's a Miami story in the "news" - which is good (they have competent journalists who know the issues). It's interesting the Cuban Government kept Twitter open. I don't get that. 

I appreciate your efforts - as someone who wants news in a news thread. 

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37 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is outside the Cuban embassy in Argentina.

Probably won't have much of an impact, but every little bit is chipping away at the Cuban leadership.

 

Love the no step on snake flags out there 

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5 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

no doubt.

It's a Miami story in the "news" - which is good (they have competent journalists who know the issues). It's interesting the Cuban Government kept Twitter open. I don't get that. 

I appreciate your efforts - as someone who wants news in a news thread. 

Jack Dorsey said it was a human right, so obviously you can't bring their network down. I actually can't find anything on the reason why that is.

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I was listening to the song Patria Y Vida...beautiful. They have to keep fighting. Damn...

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7 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

Stuff appears to still be getting out. Keep at it! 

It’s crazy seeing little guines in the news.  My MiLs hometown.  

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"This is not a confrontation against a foreign army ... these are the Cuban government police forces shooting unarmed civilians with long weapons ... but of course, now

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It says that the wounded were put by them ... don't fuck with me"

 

Could be wrong, but sounds like tear gas/etc.

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They are threatening summary trials of the detained protesters ... there are young people missing now, there are desperate mothers as the regime prepares its courts for an exemplary sentence against them.

That's not going to work out very well for the Cuban leadership - many of these people already feel like they have nothing to lose - if they think their relatives/friends are going to be disappeared/executed, they'll ramp shit up.

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2 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

CNN still has the one reporter Patrick Oppmann who has been living in Havana for the past 9 years. He had tweeted about 9 hours ago that twitter was still working (at least for him).

Sounds like twitter and YouTube are able to work on that peer-to-peer network they have going in the various cities, and/or works well enough to get to an outside access point.

Just need a brown guy with a backpack and a wireless access point.

 

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The Ministry of the Interior and the Prosecutor's Office are currently on national television. It is almost a fact, according to what has been said about the detainees in the protests, that political prisoners in #Cuba they are going to shoot. They are going to jail.

 

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Cuba 07/14: Journalist Camila Acosta is being transferred to 100 y Aldabó prison, a torture center used by the regime. Since Monday she was in the dungeon of a police station. His crime was to register the demonstrations, this happens in Cuba with journalism.

 

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I really think there is something to what a commentator said about keeping most of the police/soldiers disarmed, or lacking body armor and larger firearms, because the government is fearful they could be turned against them. 

If this were North Korea or the Soviet Union or China, they'd be mowing folks down. They wouldn't be sending out civilian militias with fucking sticks. 

 

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Against the ropes, the Cuban government authorizes the "unlimited" import of food and medicine http://ow.ly/JLPC30rNSHk

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The problem is most of the media organizations don't have anybody on the ground
 

We need to get Frankie Macdonald embedded with the locals for a weather report. Los Cubanos wouldn’t know what hit them.

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https://www.14ymedio.com/cuba/Depongan-armas-sobrino-general-Lopez-Calleja-Cuba_0_3130486931.html?platform=hootsuite

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Carlos Alejandro Rodríguez Halley, nephew of General Luis Alberto Rodríguez López-Calleja, sent a strong message on Wednesday to his uncle and the leadership of power on the island: "Lay down your arms." The young man requested that a "process of transition to democracy" be initiated after the protests that took place throughout the island in recent days.

López-Calleja, Raúl Castro's former son-in-law, although he has maintained a low profile within the regime's policy, is a member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, executive president of the Business Administration Group, S. A. (Gaesa) and is considered by analysts as the man behind the economic power of the Castro family.

"Right now I'm not in Cuba, I left for fear of reprisals from my own family for projecting myself on my social networks in favor of human rights and the dialogue between intellectuals and artists with the Government," Rodríguez Halley said.

The young man said that his family is part of the leadership of power on the island and mentioned that his words were addressed to her, to the Cuban military, and with special emphasis he mentioned his uncle López-Calleja and his cousin Raúl Guillermo Rodríguez Castro, grandson of Raúl Castro.

The people demonstrated in the streets "that they do not agree with their government, a failed government that has led to a situation of health, economic, social and political crisis"

"I call for harmony and laying down their arms. That a process of transition to democracy begins in Cuba. The people showed that they don't want you in power anymore, listen to their people," he added.

Rodríguez Halley called for an end to violence, imprisonment and repression, "not to be responsible for more bloodshed." The people showed in the streets, he said, "that they do not agree with their government, a failed government that has led to a situation of health, economic, social and political crisis."

López-Calleja's nephew also rejected the position of the island regime to blame the United States Government for what happens in the country. The U.S. Administration "has shown that it will not intervene militarily in Cuba," he said.

"Enough repression, lay down your weapons. I make an appeal from the love I have for my family, my country, all Cubans and humanity. Let's not forget that 'homeland is humanity,'" he concluded.

At the Eighth Party Congress held last April, López-Calleja was appointed a member of the Political Bureau. The military consortium Gaesa controls much of the tourism business and other strategic sectors on the Island. Analysts had been anticipating the promotion of the military to positions closer to the top of Cuban power for years.

Rodríguez Halley is an actor and audiovisual creator, has worked on films such as Caballos, by Fabian Suárez and in 2019 he wrote and independently directed the short film Un chino fell into a well, awarded with a Diploma of Merit by the jury of the Panama Human Rights Film Festival (BannabáFest).

 

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9 hours ago, twosheds said:

 

We need to get phdhorn (aka Frankie Macdonald) embedded with the locals for a weather report. Los Cubanos wouldn’t know what hit them.

 

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13 hours ago, Moby Ric said:

I am married, so that would be some seriously expensive Cuban

What happens in Havana stays in Havana. 

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17 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The Cuban government admits one death in the protests that began on Sunday. Diubis Laurencio Tejedade, 36, participated in a demonstration in the Havana neighborhood of La Güinera

https://noticuba.tech/cuba/Gobierno-muerto-protestas-iniciadas-domingo_0_3129886990.html

 

That 1951 Chevy was brand new when I last saw it in Cuba.

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16 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

 

Very true, and there has to be a limited number of jail cells in Cuber.

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14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Bussing in from other parts of Cuba.  That implies the local government(s) are unable to control things.

 

Old commie trick, used for generations by the dictators. Most of them are government bureaucrat employees ordered to do it....or else. Just like the Norks.

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4 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Very true, and there has to be a limited number of jail cells in Cuber.

But there's a lot of open water to dump bodies.  

(SEE: Natalie Holloway)

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10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I really think there is something to what a commentator said about keeping most of the police/soldiers disarmed, or lacking body armor and larger firearms, because the government is fearful they could be turned against them. 

If this were North Korea or the Soviet Union or China, they'd be mowing folks down. They wouldn't be sending out civilian militias with fucking sticks. 

 

Where is the Hollywood crowd now?

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7 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Where is the Hollywood crowd now?

Checking on the availability of land for sale in Cuba, real soon.

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Not sure I want a Cuban throwing a round object at me as hard as they can. I've seen what they're capable of.

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16 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Where is the Hollywood crowd now?

I wouldn’t count on them.

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4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I wouldn’t count on them.

Has anybody ever counted on Hollywood?

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1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

What happens in Havana stays in Havana. 

 

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It’s odd that the MSM & other foreign news sources have almost no reporters on the ground in Cuba helping show the world the unfolding events like they did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Hong Kong, Nicaragua, Cambodia, Syria, etc. when hot warfare was going on. 
Not to mention Jane Fonda in North Vietnam.

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52 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

Has anybody ever counted on Hollywood?

Hollywood.

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1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

It’s odd that the MSM & other foreign news sources have almost no reporters on the ground in Cuba helping show the world the unfolding events like they did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Hong Kong, Nicaragua, Cambodia, Syria, etc. when hot warfare was going on. 
Not to mention Jane Fonda in North Vietnam.

NO American troops to hide behind.

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8 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

NO American troops to hide behind.

I assume they can't get into the country.  

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14 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

I assume they can't get into the country.  

Are Will Smith and Martin Lawrence busy?

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2 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

I wouldn’t count on them.

That's unfair!  The current Cuban government can definitely count on them!

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11 minutes ago, ABSR said:

That's unfair!  The current Cuban government can definitely count on them!

Their silence is…well…silent. Fuck’em!😁🤘🏼

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3 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Their silence is…well…silent. Fuck’em!😁🤘🏼

Very much agree

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It’s odd that the MSM & other foreign news sources have almost no reporters on the ground in Cuba helping show the world the unfolding events like they did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Hong Kong, Nicaragua, Cambodia, Syria, etc. when hot warfare was going on. 
Not to mention Jane Fonda in North Vietnam.

Rot in hell Jane!

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It’s odd that the MSM & other foreign news sources have almost no reporters on the ground in Cuba helping show the world the unfolding events like they did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Hong Kong, Nicaragua, Cambodia, Syria, etc. when hot warfare was going on. 
Not to mention Jane Fonda in North Vietnam.

Uh, is is really that odd? Think about the circumstances for a second

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2 hours ago, Orange&White said:

NO American troops to hide behind.

This is probably a big reason. Cuba doesn't let reporters embed there and without an opposing military to provide shelter the media isn't easily able to get in and transmit the news.

 

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1 hour ago, gmr548 said:

Uh, is is really that odd? Think about the circumstances for a second

11 minutes ago, F250 said:

This is probably a big reason. Cuba doesn't let reporters embed there and without an opposing military to provide shelter the media isn't easily able to get in and transmit the news.

 

Hunter S. Thompson laughed.

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18 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

 

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6 minutes ago, F250 said:

By his own hand, not the Bandidos’.

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2 hours ago, gmr548 said:

Uh, is is really that odd? Think about the circumstances for a second

 

 

We have Gitmo down there..we should send Anderson Cooper down for a little scoop.

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