Dallas Stars 2021 Offseason Thread

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

Who do you think Seattle nabs? I think it'll either be Dobby or Dickie. After that, I got nothing.

 

[cactusflinthead 27598]

Dobby is a flimsy maybe. After last year's performance, due to covid or not, probably diminished his desirability. I'd take Dickie at this point. 

I really don't know who all is going to be available. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

wow, honestly did not see that coming:

 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10226]

18 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

wow, honestly did not see that coming:

 

I don't get unless they think Seattle won't bite on his bigger cap number

Edited July 15, 2021 by MonkeyDoughnut

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

maybe he hates it in Dallas. I dunno. just didn't think he would do that. will be interesting to see how it all shakes out

[cactusflinthead 27598]

The Stars must submit their expansion protected list on Saturday. It is now expected to be Jamie Benn (NMC), Tyler Seguin (NMC), Alexander Radulov (NMC), Roope Hintz, Denis Gurianov, Radek Faksa, Joe Pavelski, John Klingberg, Miro Heiskanen, Esa Lindell and Khudobin.

 

from Saad earlier today

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

Lol, we may be stuck with him

 

[shadow_operative2.0 15942]

Good article from Heika on the Bishop decision. 

https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/dallas-stars-goaltender-ben-bishop-waives-no-movement-clause-for-nhl-expansion-draft/c-325665720?tcid=tw_news_content_id

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

 

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

 

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

goddamn, dude got paid. fuck yes.

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

[shadow_operative2.0 15942]

 

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

think I read he was the last from the 2013 class to be on the team. That was Nill's first class, no?

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

hearing it's gonna be oleksiak for the Stars. not surprised, but now that he won't be around to protect Miro, I'm curious if we pick someone up (especially considering we also lost Johns)

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

 

[Lat22 4010]

Dammit.  Bought a Big Rig sweater after the Stanley Cup Finals.

[cactusflinthead 27598]

Stars trade picks with Detroit.

 

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

Seems like we got a lot of value in our day 2 picks. Not sure about the guy we took in round 1 though. 

[cactusflinthead 27598]

Suter to Dallas

 Cogs to SJ

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

not surprised about Suter. thinking we still need some F help

[MonkeyDoughnut 10226]

12 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Suter to Dallas 

Good addition if the price/yrs was right. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

28 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Good addition if the price/yrs was right. 

for reference, Big Rig got $4.9M

[crum 525]

4 years suckssss

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

shit is getting interesting now

[MonkeyDoughnut 10226]

14 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

shit is getting interesting now

Someone want to help me understand why this signing?  I don't get it

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

my guess is that Bish is not going to be able to play this season. or the Stars are planning to ship out a goalie. I think we still need F help

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

minor signing:

 

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

43 minutes ago, crum said:

4 years suckssss

my least favorite signing since Martin Hanzal. Nill’s desire to win now doesn’t need to hamstring us 3-4 years into the future. 

[Bill Brasky 1443]

well at least they are shaking things up a little, who knows if it will work 

*not directed at you F4H, we posted at the same time, I'm just saying in general 

Edited July 28, 2021 by Bill Brasky

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

and another:

 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10226]

 

[vtaenz 601]

my least favorite signing since Martin Hanzal. Nill’s desire to win now doesn’t need to hamstring us 3-4 years into the future. 

Hanzal was for Hitch because hitch loves giant bodies that hit and hasn't really adapted past 90's 00's hockey.

I like the Suter signing mostly because of the minimal cap hit but yeah wish the term was shorter. Until last season, he was fairly consistent with his point production and games played.

Here's hoping he's not another reincarnation of Gonchar or injured Methot.

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

[cactusflinthead 27598]

Now for the harder news

Thread

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

why is this in the Stars thread?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

Nice, he's out of conference 

 

Edited July 31, 2021 by Longhorn_Fan68

[cactusflinthead 27598]

10 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

why is this in the Stars thread?

Dammit. Meant that for the general offseason thread

[cactusflinthead 27598]

Pretty good read

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33859]

 

Edited August 3, 2021 by Longhorn_Fan68

[cactusflinthead 27598]

Coming in at #9 of worst contracts

At just under $10 million, the expectation is about 2.7 wins of value which is roughly the cutoff for an elite forward. Seguin was once one of the league’s very best, but it’s difficult to see him continue to be that as he enters his 30s. He’s currently projected to be worth one win less than that with his expected future value declining further from there through the duration of the contract. Even over the next four years where there’s a wide range of outcomes possible, the high end of the scale doesn’t quite reach the necessary level to live up to his deal. Coming off such a massive injury, something the model doesn’t account for, will only make that harder. 

https://theathletic.com/2747231/2021/08/11/the-nhls-10-worst-contracts-2021-edition-drew-doughty-retains-his-title-but-sharks-are-coming-for-him/

 

But we're not the Sharks. 

[TechTech 99]

gaywall up

[Bill Brasky 1443]

in summary, Tyler Seguin sucks, especially for the money he gets paid 

[cactusflinthead 27598]

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