What the fuck is wrong with you, Austin?

[Brisketexan 106596]

24 minutes ago, texasdago said:

and there's maybe less random crime than some thing, especially compared to other cities.

"Random" violent crime is actually pretty uncommon.  First, most violent crime is between people who are close (family, etc.) over personal circumstances, OR between people who are involved in another criminal enterprise.

Bottom line, if you aren't in a domestic violence situation and aren't at risk for taking part in "a drug deal gone bad" or somesuch, your chances of being murdered are low.

Unless you're hanging with Nicole on Rainey Street, of course.

[B00M 6725]

Impressive spree

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AUSTIN, Texas - Austin police say a man committed crimes at multiple gas stations around the city before leading law enforcement on a chase that ended in a crash and the man's arrest.

Alexander Sanabria, 37, is facing eight charges of aggravated assault with a weapon, three charges of aggravated robbery, deadly conduct, criminal trespass, robbery and evading arrest.

Police say Sanabria entered an All Star gas station on Nuckols Crossing Road around 11:15 p.m. on Sunday, Nov. 24, and fired multiple shots inside the store and left the scene.

Then, around 9:23 a.m, on Monday, Nov. 25, police responded to a Chevron gas station on Scofield Ridge Parkway. The store clerk told officers a man had entered the store and asked for a gas pump to be activated. When Sanabria was told he needed to pay before a pump could be activated, he demanded money from the register.

Officers said Sanabria was asked to leave by the clerk and took a case of beer on his way out of the store. When he was told to stop by the clerk, Sanabria pulled out a gun, demanded a gas pump be activated and fired a shot at the ceiling before driving away, police said.

Another employee of the store recognized Sanabria from being social media friends and gave that information to police.

Around 15 minutes later, at 9:38 a.m., a robbery call came in from the Wells Branch Food Mart on Wells Branch Parkway. 

Police said Sanabria entered the store and demanded a gas pump be activated while holding what looked to be a weapon in his waistline.

The clerk complied with Sanabria, and he was able to steal gas from the store before driving away, police said.

At 9:40 a.m., Austin police were called to a 7/11 on Research Blvd. Service Road where employees said Sanabria entered the store and said "I'm going to need your money" before lifting his shirt and showing them a handgun. Police said he was able to grab cash from the register before driving away.

Police were called to another gas station around 1:25 p.m., where they were told Sanabria had entered the store and demanded money. When he was approached by another employee, police said Sanabria fired his gun into the ceiling and said, "I want all the money."

Officers said he pointed the gun at another employee and said, "Give me the money or I will shoot you in the face." He left with an unknown amount of money in the same vehicle from earlier incidents.

Law enforcement from the Pflugerville Police Department, Travis County Sheriff's Office, Department of Public Safety and Round Rock Police Department were able to locate Sanabria, who led them on multiple high-speed chases before crashing.

Officers said a handgun and clothing matching those seen on surveillance were found in Sanabria's car. He was taken to an area hospital for injuries from the crash before being taken to jail.

Sanabria was being held in the Travis County Jail.

 

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/multiple-austin-gas-stations-robbed-police-high-speed-chase.amp
 

 

[Brisketexan 106596]

Impressive spree

AUSTIN, Texas - Austin police say a man committed crimes at multiple gas stations around the city before leading law enforcement on a chase that ended in a crash and the man's arrest.
Alexander Sanabria, 37, is facing eight charges of aggravated assault with a weapon, three charges of aggravated robbery, deadly conduct, criminal trespass, robbery and evading arrest.
Police say Sanabria entered an All Star gas station on Nuckols Crossing Road around 11:15 p.m. on Sunday, Nov. 24, and fired multiple shots inside the store and left the scene.
Then, around 9:23 a.m, on Monday, Nov. 25, police responded to a Chevron gas station on Scofield Ridge Parkway. The store clerk told officers a man had entered the store and asked for a gas pump to be activated. When Sanabria was told he needed to pay before a pump could be activated, he demanded money from the register.
Officers said Sanabria was asked to leave by the clerk and took a case of beer on his way out of the store. When he was told to stop by the clerk, Sanabria pulled out a gun, demanded a gas pump be activated and fired a shot at the ceiling before driving away, police said.
Another employee of the store recognized Sanabria from being social media friends and gave that information to police.
Around 15 minutes later, at 9:38 a.m., a robbery call came in from the Wells Branch Food Mart on Wells Branch Parkway. 

Police said Sanabria entered the store and demanded a gas pump be activated while holding what looked to be a weapon in his waistline.
The clerk complied with Sanabria, and he was able to steal gas from the store before driving away, police said.
At 9:40 a.m., Austin police were called to a 7/11 on Research Blvd. Service Road where employees said Sanabria entered the store and said "I'm going to need your money" before lifting his shirt and showing them a handgun. Police said he was able to grab cash from the register before driving away.
Police were called to another gas station around 1:25 p.m., where they were told Sanabria had entered the store and demanded money. When he was approached by another employee, police said Sanabria fired his gun into the ceiling and said, "I want all the money."
Officers said he pointed the gun at another employee and said, "Give me the money or I will shoot you in the face." He left with an unknown amount of money in the same vehicle from earlier incidents.
Law enforcement from the Pflugerville Police Department, Travis County Sheriff's Office, Department of Public Safety and Round Rock Police Department were able to locate Sanabria, who led them on multiple high-speed chases before crashing.
Officers said a handgun and clothing matching those seen on surveillance were found in Sanabria's car. He was taken to an area hospital for injuries from the crash before being taken to jail.
Sanabria was being held in the Travis County Jail.
 

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/multiple-austin-gas-stations-robbed-police-high-speed-chase.amp
 
 

Dude was having a day. I bet it started with his coffee maker breaking or some shit. That’ll really set a fella off.

[WBT 20877]

I love a good spree

[jimmyjazz 46950]

4 hours ago, WBT said:

I love a good spree

They're getting harder and harder to find.  Probably the only candy I'll eat:

[Deej 77654]

Nicole?

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/body-found-in-lady-bird-lake-police-investigating

[Wally Fairway 5663]

maybe the gas stations just pissed him off, or maybe he was having a bad day

 

 

[Modessit 5665]

They're getting harder and harder to find.  Probably the only candy I'll eat:

I delivered a case of these - like 20 boxes (not the rolls) - to someone the other day (Amazon). Was wondering if the "missing package" demerit was worth it.

[crash_davis 23463]

We can argue shitheads at APD and the shithead homeless until the apocalypse. The true losers in all of this are the tax paying citizens of Austin. The system is broken. But agreed that the court system shouldn't allow the absolute shit of the homeless to repeatedly go through the revolving doors of the court system.

 

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-union-says-apd-should-stop-responding-to-mental-health-calls-after-officers-sentence/

Police union says APD should ‘stop responding to mental health calls’ after officer’s sentence

AUSTIN (KXAN) — The Austin Police Association released a statement Wednesday, the day after a judge sentenced Christopher Taylor to two years in prison on a deadly conduct charge, calling on officers to stop responding to mental health calls.

Austin police officer sentenced to 2 years in prison

Taylor’s sentence stems from the 2019 police shooting of Mauris DeSilva. Police responded to 911 calls reporting DeSilva walking around his downtown condo complex with a knife to his throat. When police confronted DeSilva outside of an elevator in a common area of the complex, they told him to drop the knife, and Taylor and another officer ultimately shot and killed him.

As of Wednesday, Taylor is no longer employed by APD. He’s out of jail on an appellate bond.

Michael Bullock, president of the Austin Police Association (APA), released a video statement following the outcome of the trial. You can watch the video in the player at the top of this story.

“In light of all of this, I believe the Austin Police Department must stop responding to mental health calls,” he said. “We have never claimed to be mental health experts, yet we are continually scrutinized for our handling of these situations. Now that we’re left with the options of being stabbed or going to prison, Travis County and the District Attorney’s Office should be the ones to incur the risk.”

[Ghost of LL 15664]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

We can argue shitheads at APD and the shithead homeless until the apocalypse. The true losers in all of this are the tax paying citizens of Austin. The system is broken. But agreed that the court system shouldn't allow the absolute shit of the homeless to repeatedly go through the revolving doors of the court system.

 

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-union-says-apd-should-stop-responding-to-mental-health-calls-after-officers-sentence/

Police union says APD should ‘stop responding to mental health calls’ after officer’s sentence

AUSTIN (KXAN) — The Austin Police Association released a statement Wednesday, the day after a judge sentenced Christopher Taylor to two years in prison on a deadly conduct charge, calling on officers to stop responding to mental health calls.

Austin police officer sentenced to 2 years in prison

Taylor’s sentence stems from the 2019 police shooting of Mauris DeSilva. Police responded to 911 calls reporting DeSilva walking around his downtown condo complex with a knife to his throat. When police confronted DeSilva outside of an elevator in a common area of the complex, they told him to drop the knife, and Taylor and another officer ultimately shot and killed him.

As of Wednesday, Taylor is no longer employed by APD. He’s out of jail on an appellate bond.

Michael Bullock, president of the Austin Police Association (APA), released a video statement following the outcome of the trial. You can watch the video in the player at the top of this story.

“In light of all of this, I believe the Austin Police Department must stop responding to mental health calls,” he said. “We have never claimed to be mental health experts, yet we are continually scrutinized for our handling of these situations. Now that we’re left with the options of being stabbed or going to prison, Travis County and the District Attorney’s Office should be the ones to incur the risk.”

I kind of agree with them, but when we tried to have mental-health experts do this shit instead of the police, Republicans screamed about the City "defunding the police."  Well, you can't have it both ways.  If you're going to be lavishly funded based on your presumed ability to address all of the City's ills, then you need to address all of the City's ills.

[Your Mom 4956]

It could be summed up pretty simply:

Cops get sent to violent situations.  If you don’t want to be in violent situations, regardless of the catalyst for that violence, don’t be a cop.  

[Wally Pryor 5388]

4 hours ago, crash_davis said:

“In light of all of this, I believe the Austin Police Department must stop responding to mental health calls,” he said. “We have never claimed to be mental health experts, yet we are continually scrutinized for our handling of these situations. Now that we’re left with the options of being stabbed or going to prison, Travis County and the District Attorney’s Office should be the ones to incur the risk.”

I'll bypass any Christmas gifts for this year, and next, if we can have Garza respond to these situations, especially ones where the mental has a gun or knife. 

[PvilleStang 2974]

2 hours ago, Wally Pryor said:

I'll bypass any Christmas gifts for this year, and next, if we can have Garza respond to these situations, especially ones where the mental has a gun or knife. 

The thing that pisses me off the most is Garza's already openly admitted the force used was by the book and appropriate given the deceased was wielding a knife well within the 21' radius, thus allowing for the use of force.

@ 0:51 on this video:
 

 

[BabaYaga 15526]

34 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

The thing that pisses me off the most is Garza's already openly admitted the force used was by the book and appropriate given the deceased was wielding a knife well within the 21' radius, thus allowing for the use of force.

If it's policy, then fine, but that old FBI 21ft thing isn't really a thing anymore.  

[TKthunder2 5058]

9 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I kind of agree with them, but when we tried to have mental-health experts do this shit instead of the police, Republicans screamed about the City "defunding the police."  Well, you can't have it both ways.  If you're going to be lavishly funded based on your presumed ability to address all of the City's ills, then you need to address all of the City's ills.

I agree with all this too but what mental health expert can handle someone wielding a knife threateningly?

I think the cops have a point here. Garza has been targeting them for any and everything.

Both Garza and the cops are assholes. Both are right and both are wrong to an extent. I can easily frame an argument for and against them both.

At the end of the day, we as a civilization don’t deal very well or effectively with people going through a mental crisis. We either let them go system’s revolving door with next to no accountability or support (Garza) which punishes the community, or we go too far with enforcement (APD) and they end up with fines/jail time making it difficult to return to normalcy or in extreme cases they get killed.

[TwiceHorn 31976]

On 6/21/2024 at 11:19 AM, PvilleStang said:

Which party enacted Robinhood / recapture?  I'll give you a hint: it was before Texas turned red...

 

I think the bigger thing: it's political suicide to try to undo the current arrangement, as the benefitting ISDs are loving their golden goose and don't want to lose funding to their golf courses and water parks.

 

 

Point of order, "Robin Hood" was court-ordered.  The implementing legislation was then essentially bipartisan.

So, attempting to claim it was some kind of "Democrat" initiative is horseshit of the purest ray serene.

Now, back when Texas was a politically decent place, the Texas Supreme Court ruled that in Texas, education is a fundamental right and the government had a duty then to finance it equally.

You can quibble about the legislation, but if you want to quibble about the point above, well, I can't help you.

[TwiceHorn 31976]

4 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

If it's policy, then fine, but that old FBI 21ft thing isn't really a thing anymore.  

Correct, and it was made up of whole cloth to begin with. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/21-foot-rule-controversial-police-training-shootings/

[Brisketexan 106596]

I agree with all this too but what mental health expert can handle someone wielding a knife threateningly?

One who keeps a sizable distance between themselves and the knife-wielding person having an episode. It’s done all the time. That’s how it is supposed to be done. This cop chose a path that put him in immediate close proximity to the victim.

And yeah, it sucks that our primary mental health intake system is cops. Lots of folks talked about a path of diverting some do those resources and dollars to people who are actually trained to respond to mental health calls, but the “back the blue” crowd wouldn’t have it. They insisted on keeping all of the funding, and all of the power. And now they’re bitching about having the responsibility that comes with those things.

I’d have more sympathy for cops if they were actually interested in solutions instead of just bitching at us because we don’t 1) give them everything they want, while 2) holding them responsible for nothing.

[TKthunder2 5058]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

One who keeps a sizable distance between themselves and the knife-wielding person having an episode. It’s done all the time. That’s how it is supposed to be done. This cop chose a path that put him in immediate close proximity to the victim.

 

Who is this “One”. Please explain this, because I’m ignorant of who/how they do this. I’m definitely not a cop apologist and agree with the vast majority of your post but still I simply acknowledge that these are very difficult situations even when things go according to plan.

[royiv 9668]

1 hour ago, TKthunder2 said:

I agree with all this too but what mental health expert can handle someone wielding a knife threateningly?

I think the cops have a point here. Garza has been targeting them for any and everything.

Both Garza and the cops are assholes. Both are right and both are wrong to an extent. I can easily frame an argument for and against them both.

At the end of the day, we as a civilization don’t deal very well or effectively with people going through a mental crisis. We either let them go system’s revolving door with next to no accountability or support (Garza) which punishes the community, or we go too far with enforcement (APD) and they end up with fines/jail time making it difficult to return to normalcy or in extreme cases they get killed.

It sucks that, in this day and age, our police forces have zero options other than deadly force to neutralize a threat. We should probably invest more money into militarizing our police forces.

[Brisketexan 106596]

Who is this “One”. Please explain this, because I’m ignorant of who/how they do this. I’m definitely not a cop apologist and agree with the vast majority of your post but still I simply acknowledge that these are very difficult situations even when things go according to plan.

Here’s just one example, they’re out there to find. And it’s kind of “the book on how to handle someone in crisis.” Calm tones, keep a safe distance to avoid the risk of violent confrontation, and when they relent, take them into custody safely and compassionately.

Yes, if the person in crisis is actively threatening to harm another person close to them, you may not have that option. But if the person is only a threat to himself, give him the room and time to ratchet it down safely.

I agree that cops are not the ideal people for that job. But it’s a job they insist on doing, and not ceding to anyone else.

[royiv 9668]

20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Here’s just one example, they’re out there to find. And it’s kind of “the book on how to handle someone in crisis.” Calm tones, keep a safe distance to avoid the risk of violent confrontation, and when they relent, take them into custody safely and compassionately.

 

 

 

 

Yes, if the person in crisis is actively threatening to harm another person close to them, you may not have that option. But if the person is only a threat to himself, give him the room and time to ratchet it down safely.

I agree that cops are not the ideal people for that job. But it’s a job they insist on doing, and not ceding to anyone else.

 

Give those cops a commendation. That was masterful.

[BabaYaga 15526]

9 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Here’s just one example, they’re out there to find. And it’s kind of “the book on how to handle someone in crisis.” Calm tones, keep a safe distance to avoid the risk of violent confrontation, and when they relent, take them into custody safely and compassionately.

 

 

 

 

Yes, if the person in crisis is actively threatening to harm another person close to them, you may not have that option. But if the person is only a threat to himself, give him the room and time to ratchet it down safely.

I agree that cops are not the ideal people for that job. But it’s a job they insist on doing, and not ceding to anyone else.

 

It's situational.  Outside, open parking lot, nobody else around - you can keep your distance.  Crowded store, apartment, kids in close proximity, changes the calculus.  

At the end of the day they need more training across the board.  I have a friend that does training with many precincts.  Many of them are 6 month classes (for the cadets to become cops).  Many of those months are doing paperwork and other administrative stuff.  They're not trained on what to do when somebody puts their hands on you.  De-escalation training, etc.  It falls to the training officer...who you HOPE knows what they are doing, etc.  This is also why the advent of the SWAT teams came to be - front line dudes didn't know what to do, have the right gear, and again, training. 

Whitman in a tower, sure.  Anyone remember years back that lady that drive a semi that was hijacked in DFW?  Big OJ-esq chase down the freeway.  SWAT dudes everywhere.  What happened?  They finally spiked the tires, and this scrappy old bird wrestles the gun away from this crackhead, and jumps out of the cab.  The end.  What did SWAT do that any well trained officer couldn't? 

Another dude I know is a cop in small-town, AL.  They don't have much of a budget, so most of the policemen are also SWAT trained.  They do some wild stuff, that nothing a "dedicated" SWAT team would be needed for.  Few examples he told me:

• Trailer part.  Old disabled vet had his grandkids over.  Dude had a live grenade (Vietnam maybe?).  Little kid finds it, goes outside, pulls the pin, chucks it.  Goes maybe a few feet.  It smokes, by the grace of god doesn't go off.  Primer corroded.  They roll in, just dig a hole, fill it with det cord, have their little robot thingy push it in the hole.  Boom.
• Live video feed from outside a house.  News is there for a "most dangerous" fugitive on the run.  Most wanted kind of stuff.  You hear a loud bang in the background.  They set det cord on the front door, breached from the back.  Grabbed the dude.  The end.  Not Jason Bourne shit at all.  
• Another trailer part.  Another old vet.  Another kid involved.  Can't make this shit up.  Alabama football (pre-Saban) is losing, and this old fucker in a wheelchair shoots the TV.  Teenager comes in, he starts popping rounds off into the ceiling from his old service-issue 1911.  They come in.  First question.  Does he keep any other mags with him?  They count the shots.  Then calmly walk in, flip the chair.  Cuff him.  Off they go.

None of this is sexy or wild.  Spend the budget on situational training and stress inoculation.  Not on fucking MRAPS and .50 BMGs that they never use.  And get some of these fat fucks a gym membership.  Jesus, some of these dudes would pass out trying to tie their own shoes.  

[Ghost of LL 15664]

15 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

I agree with all this too but what mental health expert can handle someone wielding a knife threateningly?

I think the cops have a point here. Garza has been targeting them for any and everything.

Both Garza and the cops are assholes. Both are right and both are wrong to an extent. I can easily frame an argument for and against them both.

At the end of the day, we as a civilization don’t deal very well or effectively with people going through a mental crisis. We either let them go system’s revolving door with next to no accountability or support (Garza) which punishes the community, or we go too far with enforcement (APD) and they end up with fines/jail time making it difficult to return to normalcy or in extreme cases they get killed.

I am not familiar with the details of the case, so I'm not commenting at all on this specific incident.  

My comment is directed solely to the union's commentary of "well don't send us on mental-health calls, then."  

[Samson's Wig 3222]

15 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Point of order, "Robin Hood" was court-ordered.  The implementing legislation was then essentially bipartisan.

So, attempting to claim it was some kind of "Democrat" initiative is horseshit of the purest ray serene.

Now, back when Texas was a politically decent place, the Texas Supreme Court ruled that in Texas, education is a fundamental right and the government had a duty then to finance it equally.

You can quibble about the legislation, but if you want to quibble about the point above, well, I can't help you.

Sounds like it's time for another case, then.  I'll need to look up the language in that ruling, but it is difficult to imagine that the current situation in inner cities doesn't amount to the same infringement of that fundamental right as what was going on in rural communities in the 90s.  

[MissingInAction 25478]

On 11/28/2024 at 8:06 AM, Brisketexan said:

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/multiple-austin-gas-stations-robbed-police-high-speed-chase.amp
 
 

Dude was having a day. I bet it started with his coffee maker breaking or some shit. That’ll really set a fella off.

[texasdago 7752]

On 12/5/2024 at 12:46 PM, Your Mom said:

It could be summed up pretty simply:

Cops get sent to violent situations.  If you don’t want to be in violent situations, regardless of the catalyst for that violence, don’t be a cop.  

"Woah woah woah... bullets???? Sorry General... I'm out"

[atomheartbevo 90535]

Jumper at the downtown Westin, according to a friend, and the streets are blocked around there.

[Deej 77654]

Nicole is throwing dudes off of buildings, now?

[South Austin 53147]

54 minutes ago, Deej said:

Nicole is throwing dudes off of buildings, now?

She didn’t have to get as wet.*

[Wally Pryor 5388]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Jumper at the downtown Westin, according to a friend, and the streets are blocked around there.

From California maybe?

[Mittens 8625]

Well?  Splat or no splat?

[KaiserSoze 1016]

14 hours ago, Deej said:

Nicole is throwing dudes off of buildings, now?

With her bad knee she shouldn't throw anybody.

[ABSR 5357]

4 minutes ago, KaiserSoze said:

With her bad knee she shouldn't throw anybody.

What if she Ruffles them and then trips them off the building, or into the water?   Has worked before.

[Your Mom 4956]

Westin peace. 

[hayden_horn 11400]

3 hours ago, Your Mom said:

Westin peace. 

thanks a lot now I am also dead

[Texas Jeff 1997]

On 12/6/2024 at 12:35 PM, Samson's Wig said:

Sounds like it's time for another case, then.  I'll need to look up the language in that ruling, but it is difficult to imagine that the current situation in inner cities doesn't amount to the same infringement of that fundamental right as what was going on in rural communities in the 90s.  

My take on Robin Hood:

It was originally intended to equalize wealth between rich and poor districts.  It leveled funding for teachers but it did not level funding for facilities.  Texans approved plenty of money for "stuff".   When Ross Perot was trying to reform schools in the 80's, artificial turf was rare.  Now it is ubiquitous.  Now schools have indoor practice facilities and at least one poor district built a water park and a golf course.  No one wants to see their football team get their ass kicked by the town down the road, so we fund whatever.

While we were all bitching about Robin Hood, the Texas government slowly reduced funding for teachers.  It used to be about equal funding, but now it's about capped funding.  Austin ISD just raised taxes $180 million per year but only $17 million will make it to teachers, and Austin ISD is now capped on what they can do.

Shouldn't Austin ISD have the right to raise their own taxes to what the trustees and the voters think is appropriate, to properly fund education?  And should the state be prevented from taking 75% of the extra tax money raised?  The state is capping what is possible AND taking local property taxes for themselves AND not even putting that part towards education.

Why this is the best course of action is beyond me...

[jimmyjazz 46950]

The state leg's #1 mission is to do whatever it can to fuck Austin over.

[royiv 9668]

38 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The state leg's #1 mission is to do whatever it can to fuck Austin over.

Houston would like to have a word with you. 

[PvilleStang 2974]

10 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

The state leg's #1 mission is to do whatever it can to fuck Austin over.

Yeah, not so much. Austin's #1 mission is to piss through money like it's a 13 year old's face in P Diddy's mansion.  There were better ways to get funding rather than raising taxes for AISD funds directly, but sure as shit they did it, and the idiots voted FOR it.

 

I hate to say it, but Austin ISD and Houston ISD have to fail miserably for a few years before someone in the lege comes in and fixes this shitshow.  The state conservatorship of Houston was a temp fix, and frankly the state can't afford to fix every district in tandem.  We can't just tax the fuck out of the problems.  We need reform, and we need it a decade ago.  Robinhood needs to be rebalanced or eliminated, and no one has the balls to do it.

[Brisketexan 106596]

10 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

The state leg's #1 mission is to do whatever it can to fuck Austin over.

And end public education.  Don't forget that.

[SurlyGator 956]

On 12/7/2024 at 10:01 AM, KaiserSoze said:

With her bad knee she shouldn't throw anybody.

If Nicole chimes in and says she actually has a bad knee, the circle will be complete.  Nice call, Ed.

[Samson's Wig 3222]

10 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

Why this is the best course of action is beyond me...

Because they are purposefully trying to drive kids in the large cities out of public schools in the inner cities and into the waiting arms of their buddies who run charter and private schools.  It's a money grab combined with an attempt to dumb down the population more with religious education (many of these kids will end up in Jesus school where they learn next to nothing of value outside of a church setting).  Why?  Well the first part is simple.  It's about money.  The second part is about ensuring there is a next generation of voters dumb enough to keep electing these morons and their successors. 

[Native Horn 3568]

On 12/7/2024 at 10:07 AM, ABSR said:

What if she Ruffles them and then trips them off the building, or into the water?   Has worked before.

Death by potato chip.  I mean it doesn't sound awful.

[Brisketexan 106596]

1 hour ago, Samson's Wig said:

Because they are purposefully trying to drive kids in the large cities out of public schools in the inner cities and into the waiting arms of their buddies who run charter and private schools.  It's a money grab combined with an attempt to dumb down the population more with religious education (many of these kids will end up in Jesus school where they learn next to nothing of value outside of a church setting).  Why?  Well the first part is simple.  It's about money.  The second part is about ensuring there is a next generation of voters dumb enough to keep electing these morons and their successors. 

Y'all may think the plan is more complicated than this.

It's not.  That's it.  That's what they're doing, and why.

[BillyBadAss 197]

Where are these private/charter schools? Austin doesn't seem to have many that I can find. 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11856]

3 hours ago, PvilleStang said:

, but Austin ISD and Houston ISD have to fail miserably for a few years before someone in the lege comes in and fixes this shitshow.

Narrator:  the lege is not fixing shit.  They are in the business of breaking shit. 

[Deej 77654]

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6 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

Where are these private/charter schools? Austin doesn't seem to have many that I can find. 

I'm seeing 45 in Austin area, per the internets. 

(That was 2014. I'm sure there's more now. The one by my house didn't exist then.)

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[LCHorn 2749]

23 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

Where are these private/charter schools? Austin doesn't seem to have many that I can find. 

We checked our Valor a few years back and it looked pretty awesome.  If we weren’t already in the best elementary in RRISD I’d send our kids there.  If I was in AISD and not in one of the language immersion campuses I’d far prefer it.  

[Judge Roybeanbag 11856]

29 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

We checked our Valor a few years back and it looked pretty awesome.  If we weren’t already in the best elementary in RRISD I’d send our kids there.  If I was in AISD and not in one of the language immersion campuses I’d far prefer it.  

Good luck getting there.  The one in South Austin @ Mopac and 45 fucked traffic up there something horrible.