What the fuck is wrong with you, Austin?

[Wally Pryor 5400]

15 hours ago, Samson's Wig said:

We won't vote for something that Matt Mackowiack pushes anyway.

Except we did. Makowiak seems sideways and full of himself. But thankfully he pushed to get rid of the idiotic law that somehow allowed people to squat with tents wherever they desired in the city.  Wherever.  At some point this camping lunacy will be fully eradicated, who knows when.  But had someone not raised a big flag and did some legwork the homeless would still be able to shit, piss and do whatever else they wanted in full view of you and your family, while simply sitting in a car at the Ben White and Manchaca stop light. That open invitation to Camp Austin was and is ridiculous and the fact that our city allowed it, by law, for almost 2 years is unconscionable.

I didn’t vote for Prop A but I voted for the camping ban and thankfully someone pushed it to the forefront to at least get it outlawed. Of course it won’t be fully enforced, probably ever. 

[Deej 77747]

12 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

I got the impression they were concerned about people breaking into cars in the parking lot and stuff like that.

 

[Bevo 13847]

I received a notice that there has been an increase in anti-Semitism in Austin - at a local high school, at a local synagogue, and on an overpass by the local Austin Jewish Community Center. I'm curious what is driving the increase - just a random uptick in a growing city? Has the stuff been right wing, left wing, or Middle Eastern based? It has been enough to drive certain places to increase security.

[High Plains Drifter 11185]

 

Can somebody give this ex-austinite a rundown on exactly what prop A is?

Feel free to include flow charts, cross-indexed excel spreadsheets, or whatever.

Thanks.

[M12BH 545]

26 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I received a notice that there has been an increase in anti-Semitism in Austin - at a local high school, at a local synagogue, and on an overpass by the local Austin Jewish Community Center. I'm curious what is driving the increase - just a random uptick in a growing city? Has the stuff been right wing, left wing, or Middle Eastern based? It has been enough to drive certain places to increase security.

It's not just Austin.  It's all over the U.S. and the world actually.  There are places in Europe (France and Germany in particular) where Jews are advised not to wear any accoutrements identifying themselves as such because of physical violence aimed at them.  In Brooklyn, NY too.  Polarization of the populace, the fact that the former President of the U.S. has made it cool to hate on others, the "very fine" neo-Nazis on the far right and the Palestinian sympathizers on the far left (and no I'm not saying that the Palestinians don't have some real grievances, let's not go there right now OK?),  and just the fact that the shit just historically always comes back to the Jews.  When all the Trump shit started happening I was saying at that time that if he got elected and people started glomming onto his Fascist nativist bullshit, we'd see a spike in anti-Semitism because Jews are the perpetual historical scapegoats.  Sorry, don't mean to CR this shit but empirically it's exactly what is happening.  I guess it could be argued that Trump was just the catalyst for something that was already there, and I do think there is some truth to that theory.   I just hope it peaks and ebbs before things get really bad. 

[crash_davis 23468]

1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Can somebody give this ex-austinite a rundown on exactly what prop A is?

Feel free to include flow charts, cross-indexed excel spreadsheets, or whatever.

Thanks.

In 2021 (2020 budgetting cycle) Austin leadership "defunded" the police of about $150M from their budget. The defunding basically 1. cut cadet classes and 2. re-appropriated funding from police to other services including response to the coronavirus, mental health aid programs, violence prevention, victim services and food, housing and abortion access. Not sure what service got what.

However, in the 2022 budget, APD is fully funded back to this historic levels. So much ado about nothing except for 2021.

Save Austin Now is a bullshit org which lies to scare people into thinking that Austin is experiencing a ton of new crime because we "defunded" the police. Prop A is funding police for 2 to every 1000 resident ratio. Anyway, a lot of other service, including AFD, called bullshit. 

Prop A lost miserably. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Can somebody give this ex-austinite a rundown on exactly what prop A is?

Feel free to include flow charts, cross-indexed excel spreadsheets, or whatever.

Thanks.

Cops got greedy. Matt what’s his name got stupid. Austin voters got wise. The resulting vote lost like it was the UT-aggy football series. 

[Bevo 13847]

1 hour ago, M12BH said:

It's not just Austin.  It's all over the U.S. and the world actually.  There are places in Europe (France and Germany in particular) where Jews are advised not to wear any accoutrements identifying themselves as such because of physical violence aimed at them.  In Brooklyn, NY too.  Polarization of the populace, the fact that the former President of the U.S. has made it cool to hate on others, the "very fine" neo-Nazis on the far right and the Palestinian sympathizers on the far left (and no I'm not saying that the Palestinians don't have some real grievances, let's not go there right now OK?),  and just the fact that the shit just historically always comes back to the Jews.  When all the Trump shit started happening I was saying at that time that if he got elected and people started glomming onto his Fascist nativist bullshit, we'd see a spike in anti-Semitism because Jews are the perpetual historical scapegoats.  Sorry, don't mean to CR this shit but empirically it's exactly what is happening.  I guess it could be argued that Trump was just the catalyst for something that was already there, and I do think there is some truth to that theory.   I just hope it peaks and ebbs before things get really bad. 

Trump? This stuff is happening in liberal havens. I don't think it is the far right or you would see it happening more in places like Lufkin and Luling. To me it seems to be the exact opposite of what you stated. My wife's sister and her husband were working under the Obama Administration and living in London and spewing enough anti-semitic stuff that my wife almost cut her visit short when she was there. This seems to be a left movement. In Austin, specifically, I don't think the far right even exists.

[Samson's Wig 3229]

4 hours ago, Wally Pryor said:

Except we did. Makowiak seems sideways and full of himself. But thankfully he pushed to get rid of the idiotic law that somehow allowed people to squat with tents wherever they desired in the city.  Wherever.  At some point this camping lunacy will be fully eradicated, who knows when.  But had someone not raised a big flag and did some legwork the homeless would still be able to shit, piss and do whatever else they wanted in full view of you and your family, while simply sitting in a car at the Ben White and Manchaca stop light. That open invitation to Camp Austin was and is ridiculous and the fact that our city allowed it, by law, for almost 2 years is unconscionable.

I didn’t vote for Prop A but I voted for the camping ban and thankfully someone pushed it to the forefront to at least get it outlawed. Of course it won’t be fully enforced, probably ever. 

Good point.  I was mostly just responding to the notion that Austin has smarter voters than other places.  We very much do not.  

[crash_davis 23468]

2 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Good point.  I was mostly just responding to the notion that Austin has smarter voters than other places.  We very much do not.  

when left to vote on direct measures, austin seems to be mostly right. it's when the fuckhead city leadership votes that fucks over austin.

well, austin citizens do have a giant propensity to vote YES on every got damned feel good bond measure teed up on the ballot sheet. it's like the city leadership dreams of bullshit ways to spend all the new money collected by the extra high property taxes and they know the fucking idiot masses will pay for it, damned to who's paying for it and where that money could be better spent, or god forbid, saved.

[High Plains Drifter 11185]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

In 2021 (2020 budgetting cycle) Austin leadership "defunded" the police of about $150M from their budget. The defunding basically 1. cut cadet classes and 2. re-appropriated funding from police to other services including response to the coronavirus, mental health aid programs, violence prevention, victim services and food, housing and abortion access. Not sure what service got what.

However, in the 2022 budget, APD is fully funded back to this historic levels. So much ado about nothing except for 2021.

Save Austin Now is a bullshit org which lies to scare people into thinking that Austin is experiencing a ton of new crime because we "defunded" the police. Prop A is funding police for 2 to every 1000 resident ratio. Anyway, a lot of other service, including AFD, called bullshit. 

Prop A lost miserably. 

 

Thanks. So, Prop A lost bigly, despite the fact that some heavy money (Save Austin Now or whatever) was spent on it? Is that correct? Who was funding the pro A crowd?

Also, Prop A would have forced the city to fund police above and beyond what they already got in the '22 budget?

 

Thanks again.

[Samson's Wig 3229]

2 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

when left to vote on direct measures, austin seems to be mostly right. it's when the fuckhead city leadership votes that fucks over austin.

well, austin citizens do have a giant propensity to vote YES on every got damned feel good bond measure teed up on the ballot sheet. it's like the city leadership dreams of bullshit ways to spend all the new money collected by the extra high property taxes and they know the fucking idiot masses will pay for it, damned to who's paying for it and where that money could be better spent, or god forbid, saved.

Yep, and then cry when there's no money left for basic services.  Fuck those fucking fucks. 

[Samson's Wig 3229]

2 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Thanks. So, Prop A lost bigly, despite the fact that some heavy money (Save Austin Now or whatever) was spent on it? Is that correct? Who was funding the pro A crowd?

Also, Prop A would have forced the city to fund police above and beyond what they already got in the '22 budget?

 

Thanks again.

Prop A would have required a certain number of police based on population of this city.  Essentially putting it in line with other large cities.  While it had nothing to do with funding, as the funding has already been restored, it would have put a dent in the budget to get enough cops hired and trained quickly.  Essentially, an inelegant solution to what is a real problem (rising crime rates).

Heavy money was spent on both sides and the entire thing was ugly and stupid politics on both sides. Fortunately the best outcome happened, even if the messaging that led to Prop A failing was as silly as the messaging supporting it.

[M12BH 545]

25 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Trump? This stuff is happening in liberal havens. I don't think it is the far right or you would see it happening more in places like Lufkin and Luling. To me it seems to be the exact opposite of what you stated. My wife's sister and her husband were working under the Obama Administration and living in London and spewing enough anti-semitic stuff that my wife almost cut her visit short when she was there. This seems to be a left movement. In Austin, specifically, I don't think the far right even exists.

Yeah these guys are not home grown.  They come to the "liberal havens" to make a point. There is definitely far right activity here right now.  But, as I said, it's coming from both sides  in general. 

[High Plains Drifter 11185]

 

Appreciate the info, gentleman.

[Wally Pryor 5400]

33 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

it's like the city leadership dreams of bullshit ways to spend all the new money collected by the extra high property taxes and they know the fucking idiot masses will pay for it, damned to who's paying for it and where that money could be better spent, or god forbid, saved.

And the smart voters in Austin two years ago decided it wast a bad idea to have a 3rd-party come in and audit how the city spends (and pockets) its money. If there was ever a city that needed to have someone (outside) look at what it does with spending, then it's this city.  Hell, go look at the latest issue with the complete clown show regarding IT spending and assets.  

I'm hellbent on fiscal responsibility under ordinary circumstances. But it's taken to another notch given the dysfunction surrounding us that really necessitates some oversight.

I lost faith in Austin voters when they shot down the above prop 2 years ago. Idiots. 

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Wally Pryor

[Bevo 13847]

3 minutes ago, M12BH said:

Yeah these guys are not home grown.  They come to the "liberal havens" to make a point. There is definitely far right activity here right now.  But, as I said, it's coming from both sides  in general. 

Nah, the May thing in Brooklyn was from Middle Easterners: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/27/us/brooklyn-hate-crime-attacks/index.html   Overall, there has been a 115% increase in anti-Semitism in the US this year over last. It seems to me impossible to relate this to Trump who has been long gone. 

[Wally Pryor 5400]

33 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Thanks. So, Prop A lost bigly, despite the fact that some heavy money (Save Austin Now or whatever) was spent on it? Is that correct? Who was funding the pro A crowd?

 

Both sides got a little over $1MM in funding. 

Prop A was funded by locals.  The funding against Prop A came mostly from Washington, DC / outsiders like Soros. 

[jimmyjazz 47066]

The neo-Nazis hanging banners off the Far West Blvd overpass were from elsewhere.  It's a concerted effort they are mounting across the country.  It's no mystery why they chose that overpass -- Northwest Hills has the largest concentration of Jewish citizens in Austin.

Don't blame this on "liberals", it's AIMED at "liberals" (Jews).  And that's not CR.  That's just the facts.  Educate yourselves on "Goyim Defense League".

Edited November 4, 2021 by jimmyjazz

[crash_davis 23468]

fucking amazing at this day and age, that 1. people still believe in absolute idiotic bullshit and 2. that it seems to be a growing. i'm not just talking about anti-semitism, i'm talking about everything, flat earth, qanon, racism, every got damned made up bullshit. 

i blame the internet but it's like people were just needing the internet to validate their stupidity. the internet gave them an excuse and avenue to go full regard.

[Bevo 13847]

45 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The neo-Nazis hanging banners off the Far West Blvd overpass were from elsewhere.  It's a concerted effort they are mounting across the country.  It's no mystery why they chose that overpass -- Northwest Hills has the largest concentration of Jewish citizens in Austin.

Don't blame this on "liberals", it's AIMED at "liberals" (Jews).  And that's not CR.  That's just the facts.  Educate yourselves on "Goyim Defense League".

The banner came from the Florida arm of that group (Jason Brown) which has a handful of members. The leader is Jon Minadeo II of Petaluma, California. Neither group seems to have a large following. It is unlikely that the 115% increase this year and the 1 in 4 Jews who state they have been subjected to anti-Semitism in 2021 is all due to a few handfuls of people. So, yeah I am going to go ahead and call bullshit on blaming Trump. Ilhan Omar is definitely not a Trumper and has made significant anti-Semitic comments and I wasn't too fond of Kamala Harris' support of the student who claimed Israel was committing ethnic genocide. The most recent rise came during the Palestinian conflict. It seems to me that it is not just a left or right thing. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57286341

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Bevo

[M12BH 545]

50 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Nah, the May thing in Brooklyn was from Middle Easterners: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/27/us/brooklyn-hate-crime-attacks/index.html   Overall, there has been a 115% increase in anti-Semitism in the US this year over last. It seems to me impossible to relate this to Trump who has been long gone. 

Long gone?  Dude he's been out of office less than a year and he's still revered and kowtowed to by a whole fucking contingent of insane Congress-things waving his banner and he's still spewing his tribal bullshit.  Absolutely a lot of the increase can be traced to the left.  And a lot of it can be traced to the neo-fucking Nazis.  Do you think for one fucking moment they've forgotten that the President of the United States referred to them as "good people"?     Here's an article that at least touches on the issue, I'm not super excited about the whole "Jewish brand" thing but the fundamental concepts are at least addressed.  https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/columnist/editors-note/338393/how-the-jewish-brand-is-getting-squeezed-from-two-sides/

[jimmyjazz 47066]

1 hour ago, Bevo said:

The banner came from the Florida arm of that group (Jason Brown) which has a handful of members. The leader is Jon Minadeo II of Petaluma, California. Neither group seems to have a large following. It is unlikely that the 115% increase this year and the 1 in 4 Jews who state they have been subjected to anti-Semitism in 2021 is all due to a few handfuls of people.

I didn't say that.

 

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So, yeah I am going to go ahead and call bullshit on blaming Trump. Ilhan Omar is definitely not a Trumper and has made significant anti-Semitic comments and I wasn't too fond of Kamala Harris' support of the student who claimed Israel was committing ethnic genocide. The most recent rise came during the Palestinian conflict. It seems to me that it is not just a left or right thing. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57286341

Oh, for pity's sake.  Take your stupid Omar angle and sit and spin.  The %age of anti-semitic Americans is dominated by Trumpers, not fucking Muslims.

Hell yes that's a CR take.  It's also fact.  This stupid safe place is toxic and as political as the CR, if not more.

[TKthunder2 5058]

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! please

[Bevo 13847]

2 hours ago, M12BH said:

Here's an article that at least touches on the issue, I'm not super excited about the whole "Jewish brand" thing but the fundamental concepts are at least addressed.  https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/columnist/editors-note/338393/how-the-jewish-brand-is-getting-squeezed-from-two-sides/

Of course, I agree more with the article that you posted than with you. It is pretty similar to the BBC one that I posted. To me it seems like you are trying to deflect with Trump simply because of your hesitancy to admit the squeeze that "white privilege" and "thieving Israel" is putting on us. It is pretty similar to the BBC one that I posted. Maybe I don't consider this form of anti-Semitism sneaky currently because of how I view the roots of the Holocaust of course colored by my upbringing in Texas as opposed to the coasts. Jews were well aware that the Catholic Church and religious Christians had no love for them but the attacks came from the National Socialist German Workers' Party. And while the party wasn't true to its name once Hitler led it, it was still a popular movement led by the lower-middle class. And that was sneaky to Jews of the time who knew the origins of the Inquisitions but it shouldn't be sneaky today.

[Celery Man 21087]

i thought this entire exchange was with bevoette and honestly it seemed about right

[LCHorn 2750]

5 hours ago, Bevo said:

Trump? This stuff is happening in liberal havens. I don't think it is the far right or you would see it happening more in places like Lufkin and Luling. To me it seems to be the exact opposite of what you stated. My wife's sister and her husband were working under the Obama Administration and living in London and spewing enough anti-semitic stuff that my wife almost cut her visit short when she was there. This seems to be a left movement. In Austin, specifically, I don't think the far right even exists.

Haha, this is a joke, right?

[Bevo 13847]

20 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Haha, this is a joke, right?

read M12BH article

[DanRydell 799]

Yep, and then cry when there's no money left for basic services.  Fuck those fucking fucks. 

I don’t think you know how bonds work. The whole point of bonds is that they’re an additional tax so that the spending doesn’t come out of the general fund.

[Samson's Wig 3229]

3 minutes ago, DanRydell said:

I don’t think you know how bonds work. The whole point of bonds is that they’re an additional tax so that the spending doesn’t come out of the general fund.

If you reread the post I was responding to, his last comment was about property taxes, although he did mention bonds earlier.  I could have been clearer.

[irishtexan 11705]

fucking hell. you fucking idiots....

[hookemATL 12229]

Let’s get this back on track

[atomheartbevo 90606]

1 hour ago, hookemATL said:

Let’s get this back on track

Lost in the shuffle - earlier in the day on Halloween

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/11/04/jewish-hays-county-residents-face-antisemitism-follow-austin-discrimination/6285536001/

Blaming Jews for COVID.  

Fucking idiot Neo-Nazis or trolls or whoever is doing.

Now if they'd blame the Irish for the pandemic....

[M12BH 545]

13 hours ago, Bevo said:

read M12BH article

Right.  I addressed your question as to where the rise in anti-Semitism is coming from by saying both the far left and far right, post an article to that effect, and you agree with the article but not me. 

Oh, maybe you're right, if it's neo-Nazis this stuff should be happening in small Texas towns.  Like San Marcos:

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/11/04/jewish-hays-county-residents-face-antisemitism-follow-austin-discrimination/6285536001/

 

And you're right.  The MAGAs and their embrace of the Trumpist/Facist/neo-Nazi/white nationalist ideology is long gone:

https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/gop-officials-will-appear-alongside-white-nationalists-nazi-apologists-at-rally-to-support-insurrectionists/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/04/politics/kfile-kari-lake-nazi-symapthizer-qanon-figure/index.html

 

Anyway yeah, time to shut up about this.  Can't argue with people whose minds are already made up.

 

[Nonbryan 176]

The rise in anti-semitism stuff seems weird and awefully troll-y to me.  115% increase in 1 year?  Why?  Seems like a Chinese plot to create worldwide discontent to me.  I just don't see a spark to drive a weird ass rise like this.  Too random IMO.  Smells fishy.

[Bevo 13847]

1 hour ago, M12BH said:

Right.  I addressed your question as to where the rise in anti-Semitism is coming from by saying both the far left and far right, post an article to that effect, and you agree with the article but not me. 

Oh, maybe you're right, if it's neo-Nazis this stuff should be happening in small Texas towns.  Like San Marcos:

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/11/04/jewish-hays-county-residents-face-antisemitism-follow-austin-discrimination/6285536001/

 

And you're right.  The MAGAs and their embrace of the Trumpist/Facist/neo-Nazi/white nationalist ideology is long gone:

https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/gop-officials-will-appear-alongside-white-nationalists-nazi-apologists-at-rally-to-support-insurrectionists/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/04/politics/kfile-kari-lake-nazi-symapthizer-qanon-figure/index.html

 

Anyway yeah, time to shut up about this.  Can't argue with people whose minds are already made up.

 

Are we really arguing? I've never said neo-Nazis aren't a thing. I just don't think Trump is the right target in this case. Trump was pro-Israel and has a son-in-law who is Jewish (Did his daughter convert?) and hangs out with lots of Jews. And, importantly, he is upset about the rise in anti-Semitism. He has nationalist viewpoints and that definitely creates issues for minorities, but this has occurred after he has left office and when the anti-Trump has become the majority. I get that Trump is the babaika for many but he isn't always culpable - just like the Obama meme.

[M12BH 545]

1 minute ago, Bevo said:

Are we really arguing? I've never said neo-Nazis aren't a thing. I just don't think Trump is the right target in this case. Trump was pro-Israel and has a son-in-law who is Jewish (Did his daughter convert?) and hangs out with lots of Jews. And, importantly, he is upset about the rise in anti-Semitism. He has nationalist viewpoints and that definitely creates issues for minorities, but this has occurred after he has left office and when the anti-Trump has become the majority. I get that Trump is the babaika for many but he isn't always culpable - just like the Obama meme.

Eh maybe we are not arguing.  But I don't think Trump is a target and I believe I said as much earlier, that he may very well be a lightning rod for shit that was already out there. He is not an anti-Semite per se or in the classical sense but the fact that he has a Jewish son in law and daughter does not negate the fact that he openly supports and embraces fascist white nationalist ideals, and that the actual, you know, fascists, white nationalists, and neo-Nazis have been emboldened because they can say and do shit out in the open and have politicians still rally around them rather than condemn them for the disgusting racist shitbirds that they are.  Also the fact that Trump "supports Israel" just plays into the whole evangelical end of times thing that has to happen for the rapture as opposed to preserving Israel as someplace Jews can go when the anti-Semitism starts becoming a thing as it inevitably does.

So OK I'm out, Shalom.

[Steel Shank 9552]

In support of our semitic citizens, for lunch I will have a gefilte fish sandwich with swiss and japs.

[Bevo 13847]

54 minutes ago, Steel Shank said:

In support of our semitic citizens, for lunch I will have a gefilte fish sandwich with swiss and japs.

Fuck the Swiss. They played neutral while banking all the Nazi loot.

[MissingInAction 25545]

On 11/4/2021 at 1:34 PM, Bevo said:

Nah, the May thing in Brooklyn was from Middle Easterners: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/27/us/brooklyn-hate-crime-attacks/index.html   Overall, there has been a 115% increase in anti-Semitism in the US this year over last. It seems to me impossible to relate this to Trump who has been long gone. 

Do you suffer an intellectual disability,  or just trolling?

Edited November 5, 2021 by MissingInAction

[atomheartbevo 90606]

5 hours ago, Nonbryan said:

The rise in anti-semitism stuff seems weird and awefully troll-y to me.  115% increase in 1 year?  Why?  Seems like a Chinese plot to create worldwide discontent to me.  I just don't see a spark to drive a weird ass rise like this.  Too random IMO.  Smells fishy.

I have no doubt that it's trolls doing most of the online stuff, and not just Chinese, but Russian as well - I've got a Qanon relative, and the crap she has emailed or texted about covid vaccines, etc. is from websites that have way too many links to Russian and other sites (a bit more undetermined on their origins).   And I really don't think it's the kind of trolls doing it for the lulz.  It feels like somebody is trying to stir shit up on a nation-wide basis.

And a lot of those websites do a damn fine job of obscuring the origins of the stuff they are pushing.  Some of it not so much - she was freaking out about our kids getting vaccinated, and sending us a bunch of scary stuff that was lifted straight from the anti-HPV vaccine crowd from over a decade ago.  

The problem is that they are radicalizing people here in the US.  Even when I provide proof to her that the stuff she sent was taken from a completely different vaccine from news stories from over a decade ago (that were proven false back then), she would rather believer her anonymous studies on websites that link to ZeroHedge or RT or whatever.  And her dad was a doctor, and her mom and step-mom were both medical professionals, and she ignores what they say in favor of the online shit from anonymous people.

It's more for the Surly Dad thread, but we really need to teach our kids to separate fact from fiction and to be wary of social media, because I don't see this stuff getting any better - Social Dilemma on Netflix was just the tip of the iceberg.  Although, in a bit of irony, a lot of my younger cousins are cynical as shit about stuff on social media while the olds lap it up.

[Wally Pryor 5400]

On 10/26/2021 at 2:26 PM, bolverk said:

From the previous page, I posted a story from KXAN. Here's what it says we're at right now:

In 1984, Roberts says there were 59 homicides in Austin. For reference, the homicide rate was much higher that year, because the population was a lot lower. Roberts says that year, there were 13.2 homicides per 100,000 people, while Austin’s homicide rate so far this year is 6.2 per 100,000.

 

So, yeah, it's not great. That article showed 60 murders so far this year as of Sept. 13. By my quick count from here, it looks like we've had 11 more since then which would put us at 7.38 so far this year. Anything above 87 would put us at 9.00 (but that would be using 2020 Census figures - no estimates for 2021 are available yet and the City has surely grown). Let's say 90 murders to be on the safe side to reach your estimate. 

No idea what's going on elsewhere but figure it's the same.

#80 last night.  Now trending like more toward 100. 

 

[bolverk 30300]

5 hours ago, Wally Pryor said:

#80 last night.  Now trending like more toward 100. 

 

Dammit. The fuck is going on. I think Covid broke us.

[Michael Knight 13212]

On 11/4/2021 at 12:34 PM, Bevo said:

Trump? This stuff is happening in liberal havens. I don't think it is the far right or you would see it happening more in places like Lufkin and Luling. To me it seems to be the exact opposite of what you stated. My wife's sister and her husband were working under the Obama Administration and living in London and spewing enough anti-semitic stuff that my wife almost cut her visit short when she was there. This seems to be a left movement. In Austin, specifically, I don't think the far right even exists.

How many Jews you think they got in Luling?

[Nicole44 22209]

Some woman shot and killed her neighbor over a stolen bouncy house.

https://www.kxan.com/news/apd-searches-for-woman-accused-of-shooting-killing-neighbor-over-bouncy-house-theft/

[Bevo 13847]

10 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

How many Jews you think they got in Luling?

I don't know but there used to be a bunch in Lockhart. I'm friends with a handful of them. There used to be a decent amount in the valley, too. I get your point, though.

[Bevo 13847]

6 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Some woman shot and killed her neighbor over a stolen bouncy house.

https://www.kxan.com/news/apd-searches-for-woman-accused-of-shooting-killing-neighbor-over-bouncy-house-theft/

Unfortunately, I'm not too surprised. It is a pretty rough neighborhood.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Dammit. The fuck is going on. I think Covid broke us.

Homicides going up while most all crime going down is somewhat strange. My guess is a combination of Covid and a pretty massive population growth last year. More people moved here in 2020 than most realize. 

[Michael Knight 13212]

37 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Homicides going up while most all crime going down is somewhat strange. My guess is a combination of Covid and a pretty massive population growth last year. More people moved here in 2020 than most realize. 

Societal collapses aren't usually easy

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10 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Homicides going up while most all crime going down is somewhat strange. My guess is a combination of Covid and a pretty massive population growth last year. More people moved here in 2020 than most realize. 

From what I’ve been reading, a lot of crimes are not being reported or are being ignored by frustrated victims and the APD. So the current stats may not reflect the real picture.