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On 9/15/2024 at 11:48 PM, TKthunder2 said:

CBS projecting playoff/bowl games, clearly CBS has a hard on for the Big 12 because this make perfect sense…

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/bowl-projections-memphis-win-over-florida-state-helps-push-tigers-into-college-football-playoff-field/

Big12: 4 spots
SEC/B1G: 3 spots each
ACC/G5: 1 spots each

And they have Miami as 3 seed and Utah 4 seed in the Quarterfinals section. But it's flipped in the 1st Round section where they show who first-round winners play next. Get your shit together, CBS.

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On 9/15/2024 at 11:48 PM, TKthunder2 said:

CBS projecting playoff/bowl games, clearly CBS has a hard on for the Big 12 because this make perfect sense…

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/bowl-projections-memphis-win-over-florida-state-helps-push-tigers-into-college-football-playoff-field/

Big12: 4 spots
SEC/B1G: 3 spots each
ACC/G5: 1 spots each

Can most of the nation even name a Big 12 school?

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6 minutes ago, TxEx84 said:

And they have Miami as 3 seed and Utah 4 seed in the Quarterfinals section. But it's flipped in the 1st Round section where they show who first-round winners play next. Get your shit together, CBS.

CBS is full of crap.  Have they not read this guy Graham's rankings?!

 

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24 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Honestly I think Texas may have put up with it a bit longer if the conference had ever supported UT. I'm not talking about kowtowing or deferring to Texas, I'm talking about obvious shit like the officiating in the 2015 game against OkSU as shown in the video earlier in this thread. Some of those calls can be argued so maybe the league office shouldn't have said anything about things like the missed PI against Beck. But the bullshit move by the sideline official to hunt down and intentionally make contact with Strong so he could throw a flag absolutely should have resulted in a public reprimand and a suspension for that ref. The fact that the league said nothing is completely indefensible. And keep in mind that like everyone else around here I'm fine with pretty much anything it took to get Strong out of here.

Hell, it might have been enough for the league to issue a bland statement (much like they did) and then quietly not re-sign the officials for the next season. That way, they could have sent a message to the crews that fuckery isn’t tolerated, while telling the rest of the league that they didn’t dance to Texas’ call. 
 
But, they couldn’t do that. Deterding still works for the B12. The message to UT was that the Horns may be Gulliver, but the Lilliputians were going to work together to tie them down. 

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38 minutes ago, statsman said:

Hell, it might have been enough for the league to issue a bland statement (much like they did) and then quietly not re-sign the officials for the next season. That way, they could have sent a message to the crews that fuckery isn’t tolerated, while telling the rest of the league that they didn’t dance to Texas’ call. 
 
But, they couldn’t do that. Deterding still works for the B12. The message to UT was that the Horns may be Gulliver, but the Lilliputians were going to work together to tie them down. 

Well, other than the fact that most of the other schools in the big 12 wouldn’t be smart enough to understand that reference. 

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58 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

It’s extremely refreshing to be aligned with peer football institutions that have their own aspirations and desires that don’t involve “I don’t care how bad we are as long as we beat Texas.” 

Well, all the ones outside of OU, aggy and arky, at least.

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15 hours ago, Deej said:

Can most of the nation even name a Big 12 school?

Good point. I attended one and can’t recall what the place was called. Should probably just shut it down and demolish the stadium, forgot the name of that too.

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7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Good point. I attended one and can’t recall what the place was called. Should probably just shut it down and demolish the stadium, forgot the name of that too.

I agree, and go a step further and feed T Boone Pickens' bones to some mongrel dogs and burn their feces for lamp fuel.

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On 9/2/2024 at 12:07 PM, Deej said:

Poor OSU. I have no sympathy.

 

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. I had blocked a good portion of that out. Thank God we nuked that kangaroo ass conference from orbit. Enjoy irrelevance, Big XII. They can't remove your automatic playoff bid soon enough 

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#12 Utah and #14 Oklahoma State are playing tomorrow at 3pm on FOX. It’s predicted to be a close competitive game (OkSt-1) of the two top undefeated teams in the conference.

and where is the FOX Big Noon pregame show???

They are at the undefeated #3 Ohio State vs unranked 1-1 Marshall who lost to Virginia Tech 14 to 31 (who lost to Vanderbilt) in a game that is expected to be a 40 point blowout (tOSU -40).

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1 hour ago, TKthunder2 said:

#12 Utah and #14 Oklahoma State are playing tomorrow at 3pm on FOX. It’s predicted to be a close competitive game (OkSt-1) of the two top undefeated teams in the conference.

and where is the FOX Big Noon pregame show???

They are at the undefeated #3 Ohio State vs unranked 1-1 Marshall who lost to Virginia Tech 14 to 31 (who lost to Vanderbilt) in a game that is expected to be a 40 point blowout (tOSU -40).

Also where the Big Fox noon game is, another suspect decision on their part.   It will be interesting to see if the ABC NCSt/Clemson takes that noon spot and by how much.

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4 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

Also where the Big Fox noon game is, another suspect decision on their part.   It will be interesting to see if the ABC NCSt/Clemson takes that noon spot and by how much.

fox had to put Ohio st on national tv. they were losing ground to Texas and Georgia in the media. Put their game national and more media will suck that dick in next weeks polls. Ohio st are  bread winners for fox now. 

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14 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

Also where the Big Fox noon game is, another suspect decision on their part.   It will be interesting to see if the ABC NCSt/Clemson takes that noon spot and by how much.

When not complete dog shit, Ohio State and Michigan are a major ratings pull on the OTA networks, even when they play scrubs (like Marshall) they pull 2.5 million viewers, and if it’s a team with anything remotely close to a brand or rank they get 5 million. If that Clemson game is close it can beat it, but I’m skeptical that matchup can break the 3 million mark (Clemson isn’t that type of program, and unranked NCSU already has a loss).

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On 9/21/2024 at 12:20 AM, TKthunder2 said:

When not complete dog shit, Ohio State and Michigan are a major ratings pull on the OTA networks, even when they play scrubs (like Marshall) they pull 2.5 million viewers, and if it’s a team with anything remotely close to a brand or rank they get 5 million. If that Clemson game is close it can beat it, but I’m skeptical that matchup can break the 3 million mark (Clemson isn’t that type of program, and unranked NCSU already has a loss).

No way Clemson beat Ohio State today.

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Holy War Conference Championship Game should be good start to Championship Saturday. 
 

It’s been mostly quad screen, but I’ll admit to watching more Big 12 games than I expected. That probably won’t continue as the SEC finally enters widespread league play, but the Big 12 has done what ESPN/FOX wanted. Entertaining games on slow weeks. 
 

I feel bad for Ollie Gordon. Texas broke him. Just hasn’t been the same guy since the 2023 CCG. Should have gone pro and got paid to suck. 

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2 hours ago, statsman said:

Three games on ESPN or Fox on Saturday is pretty good for them. 
 
Kansas/TCU streaming is something 

The noon on ESPN is good for them. They get the 230 on FOX by default as FOX can’t broadcast any Big Ten at that time because they gave CBS an exclusive window. And the late window is something they will have each week with 5 team in the Mountain Time Zone.

The SEC has 3 games back to back to back on ABC, one on ESPN at 230, and 2 on the SECN. This is basically the new norm for both the SEC and Big 12.

The big loser here is the ACC. They have only a Friday night game on ESPN, then Clemson is the sacrificial lamb on ESPN opposite UGA/Bama, then they only have one game on ESPN2, one on the CW, 3 on the ACCN, and one streaming…on top of that Louisville’s ranked v ranked game against Notre Dame is only on Peacock.

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54 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Big Noon Kickoff EP needs a dressing down. Ohio State shouldn’t host the show when they’re playing Marshall. 

Yep they had Utah v Oklahoma State. A ranked v ranked matchup that could decide the entire Big 12 conference where they also could talk about the new conference alignments. It seemed like such an easy decision that they totally flubbed because they wanted to suck some bucknuts.

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3 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

Yep they had Utah v Oklahoma State. A ranked v ranked matchup that could decide the entire Big 12 conference where they also could talk about the new conference alignments. It seemed like such an easy decision that they totally flubbed because they wanted to suck some bucknuts.

I predicted before the season they’d have almost every show in Columbus. I’m sad to see that I was right. Ohio State was -40 against Marshall. This should never happen again, but it will. 

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5 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Here's what I don't get. How is Arizona/K-State not a conference game? Did I miss something? 

It was scheduled before they were conferencemates. Same for Baylor/Utah. They couldn’t reschedule with another P4 level opponent on such a short turnaround so they decided to leave the game scheduled but not count them as conference games.

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FS1 not sending announcer to the stadiums, they are working remotely from a central location. Treating Big 12 games like they treat MWC games. Fox is pretty much telling the Big 12 how they think about them.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2024/09/21/arizona-state-football-fans-slam-fs1-remote-broadcast-texas-tech/75329197007/

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8 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

FS1 not sending announcer to the stadiums, they are working remotely from a central location. Treating Big 12 games like they treat MWC games. Fox is pretty much telling the Big 12 how they think about them.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2024/09/21/arizona-state-football-fans-slam-fs1-remote-broadcast-texas-tech/75329197007/

Maybe the problem is with their feed? I believe Herbstreit broadcasts remotely all the time on ESPN. 

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3 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Maybe the problem is with their feed? I believe Herbstreit broadcasts remotely all the time on ESPN. 

I don’t think you’re right on this one. They’ve shown the crazy lengths they have gone to in order to get Herby from College Gameday on the West Coast to an East Coast game multiple times (police escorts, private plane, helicopters). I’m not saying it never has happened (like during Covid perhaps) but I don’t think it’s anything they do “all the time”. I believe ESPN might do this for lesser conferences on ESPN+ but not SEC or premier B12/ACC games.

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8 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

I don’t think you’re right on this one. They’ve shown the crazy lengths they have gone to in order to get Herby from College Gameday on the West Coast to an East Coast game multiple times (police escorts, private plane, helicopters). I’m not saying it never has happened (like during Covid perhaps) but I don’t think it’s anything they do “all the time”. I believe ESPN might do this for lesser conferences on ESPN+ but not SEC or premier B12/ACC games.

I could have sworn he called an afternoon game and an evening game on opposite ends of the country before. 

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49 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I could have sworn he called an afternoon game and an evening game on opposite ends of the country before. 

It’s hard to prove a negative, but this is the only thing I can find about Herby calling a game remotely, from when he got COVID.

https://sports.yahoo.com/kirk-herbstreit-to-work-from-home-in-week-4-after-coming-in-contact-with-someone-who-had-covid-19-202202951.html

and here’s a thread on some of his standard travel

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten/kirk-herbsteit-travel-college-gameday-schedule-fans-react-south-bend

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10 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

FS1 not sending announcer to the stadiums, they are working remotely from a central location. Treating Big 12 games like they treat MWC games. Fox is pretty much telling the Big 12 how they think about them.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2024/09/21/arizona-state-football-fans-slam-fs1-remote-broadcast-texas-tech/75329197007/

I mean shit ESPN sent Dan Mullen, Matt Barrie and Harry Lyles Jr to San Marcos for the TXST Arizona State game last Thursday...Fox Sports couldn't be bothered to send anyone to Lubbock on Satuday? Yikes...

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13 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Would still be better than Lowell. 

Not if they computer generate his voice. 

13 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

I mean shit ESPN sent Dan Mullen, Matt Barrie and Harry Lyles Jr to San Marcos for the TXST Arizona State game last Thursday...Fox Sports couldn't be bothered to send anyone to Lubbock on Satuday? Yikes...

The Fox crew was breathing a sigh of relief. 

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