Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality

['stache 21789]

10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think if Iowa St and BYU both win out, meet in the Big 12 CCG, then both will make the CFP. Especially if there is more losses accumulated by other teams. Kansas St would be an outside shot as a second team.

Nah, I’d bet a pizza on that not happening. An 8-4 Ole Miss gets in over an 11-1 non champ ISU or BYU. That’s how it was designed. Once OU/TX left and we somehow survived it was accepted as the new reality. Gotta win the CCG to make the CFP. We just wanted access and that’s what we got.

Edited October 24 by 'stache

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

Just now, 'stache said:

Nah, I’d bet a pizza on that not happening. An 8-4 Ole Miss gets in over an 11-1 non champ ISU or BYU. That’s how it was designed. Once OU/TX left and we somehow survived it was accepted as the new reality, with the CCG to get in. We just wanted access and that’s what we got.

Personally unless there is some crazy shit going on I don't see a 3 loss team making a 12 team playoff. Much like a 2 loss team never made the 4 team playoff, it will be the same.

[horn009 139]

18 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Nah, I’d bet a pizza on that not happening. An 8-4 Ole Miss gets in over an 11-1 non champ ISU or BYU. That’s how it was designed. Once OU/TX left and we somehow survived it was accepted as the new reality. Gotta win the CCG to make the CFP. We just wanted access and that’s what we got.

4 losses would be way too much to get in, regardless of the conference the team plays in. 

[statsman 5449]

OSU is playing at Baylor, and the game is on streaming. Baylor has a tremendous number of games on streaming. 
 
The B12 has a Baylor, TCU and UH problem. Even in years where they have solid teams, fans don’t tune in. TT is just a little better, comparable to OSU, really. TCU and Baylor have played well over 100 games, for more than a century, and nobody (including their fans) really gives a shit. 
 
The league needs those teams, it thinks, for the recruiting territory. I wonder, in this new era, if they really do, if a better B12 would drop a couple of them. 

['stache 21789]

20 hours ago, horn009 said:

4 losses would be way too much to get in, regardless of the conference the team plays in. 

Maybe. If the Big XII runner up’s only loss is the CCG it’s possible but I just don’t see it happening. I doubt the scenario arises though, there will be a few losses from the top of the Big XII by the time the CCG comes around and enough 2-3 loss Big/Sec teams to avoid having to consider a 4 loss team.

8 minutes ago, statsman said:

OSU is playing at Baylor, and the game is on streaming. Baylor has a tremendous number of games on streaming. 
 
The B12 has a Baylor, TCU and UH problem. Even in years where they have solid teams, fans don’t tune in. TT is just a little better, comparable to OSU, really. TCU and Baylor have played well over 100 games, for more than a century, and nobody (including their fans) really gives a shit. 
 
The league needs those teams, it thinks, for the recruiting territory. I wonder, in this new era, if they really do, if a better B12 would drop a couple of them. 

It’s on streaming because both teams stink and the game has no relevance to the standings. Tech-TCU isn’t the fanciest matchup but it’s relevant to the standings and is on Big Fox. Baylor and UH should not have made the conference but shit happens and realignment has always been stupid as fuck so here we are (the old SWC schools brought Baylor along so can’t really blame us for their presence). I think TCU holds its own well enough despite a small alumni base but also likely would not have been promoted in a sane world of realignment.

[LTtxfan 49141]

 

[TKthunder2 4985]

2 hours ago, 'stache said:

It’s on streaming because both teams stink and the game has no relevance to the standings. Tech-TCU isn’t the fanciest matchup but it’s relevant to the standings and is on Big Fox.

Tech/TCU is on FOX only because ESPN got first pick this week and took Colorado/Cincy who are both 5-2.

FOX has no other inventory it can put in the time slot. I’ve said for over a year now, that this was the most beneficial arrangement that the Big 12 has over the ACC. Big 12 fans and BY can brag about their good deal/placement on FOX main (I think the exposure more than makes up for the dollars) but inventory like the Tech/TCU game is just the best remaining option for FOX, its not something to toot your horn about.

[Deej 76750]

3 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

Tech/TCU is on FOX only because ESPN got first pick this week and took Colorado/Cincy who are both 5-2.

FOX has no other inventory it can put in the time slot. I’ve said for over a year now, that this was the most beneficial arrangement that the Big 12 has over the ACC. Big 12 fans and BY can brag about their good deal/placement on FOX main (I think the exposure more than makes up for the dollars) but inventory like the Tech/TCU game is just the best remaining option for FOX, its not something to toot your horn about.

Last woman in the bar at closing time. 

['stache 21789]

It’s a weird year because of who is at the top of the standings and who’s at the bottom, but yes, the media deal was a big success in confernce survival.

[Crockett 490]

BYU on the Flagship in the afternoon this Saturday

no jinx / *knocks on wood*

[thunderlounge 7813]

Fuck byu. 
 

Keep lookin in that window. Least ya got “friends” now. 

[Crockett 490]

26 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

Fuck byu. 
 

Keep lookin in that window. Least ya got “friends” now. 

Hope you can find the Texas game this week on the SECN

[thunderlounge 7813]

Ouch, what a comeback!

 

Yes, a nationally available network is going to be so hard to find. Whatever will we do? 
 

How many people watch those byu fucks? 
 

Go back to your shanty with the rest of them and sniff your magic drawers some more. 

[field 225]

As much as I dislike BYU, thought this was good.

[BigHornedLurker 1931]

and yet BYU staring at the playoffs just like old times 

[DFW Horn 6123]

10 hours ago, statsman said:

The B12 has a Baylor, TCU and UH problem. Even in years where they have solid teams, fans don’t tune in. TT is just a little better, comparable to OSU, really. TCU and Baylor have played well over 100 games, for more than a century, and nobody (including their fans) really gives a shit. 
 
The league needs those teams, it thinks, for the recruiting territory. I wonder, in this new era, if they really do, if a better B12 would drop a couple of them. 

These three, SMU, and Rice are what contributed to the SWC's demise.

But, I still have nostalgia for the good ol' days. Leagues made sense geographically if not financially back then. 

[DFW Horn 6123]

5 hours ago, field said:

As much as I dislike BYU, thought this was good.

Nice double entendre, soakers!

[Deej 76750]

1 minute ago, DFW Horn said:

Nice double entendre, soakers!

They look like they might soak in each other.

[Hank_Hill 18785]

On 10/24/2024 at 7:17 AM, 'stache said:

Nah, I’d bet a pizza on that not happening. An 8-4 Ole Miss gets in over an 11-1 non champ ISU or BYU. 

This is insane.

[fattyflattie 4639]

Amazing BYU still has the absolute worst posters. Just fucking uncanny.  

[horn009 139]

I guess everything runs through Provo instead of Lubbock. 

[LTtxfan 49141]

Mediocrity of CFB is crazy -- can't believe the results for several B12 teams who are at the bottom this season. 

[Bullneck 19070]

[statsman 5449]

On 10/24/2024 at 12:17 PM, 'stache said:

Nah, I’d bet a pizza on that not happening. An 8-4 Ole Miss gets in over an 11-1 non champ ISU or BYU. That’s how it was designed. Once OU/TX left and we somehow survived it was accepted as the new reality. Gotta win the CCG to make the CFP. We just wanted access and that’s what we got.

I don’t know. With the leagues so large, multiple teams can put up big records by not playing each other. BYU and ISU are undefeated and not scheduled to play. KSU has one loss (to BYU). Colorado has two (NU and KSU). ISU and KSU play late in the season. 
 
If BYU and ISU stay undefeated, they meet in the CCG, and KSU would be the best win for each. 
 
There will be CFP controversy 

[TrashMaster G 17536]

5 hours ago, statsman said:

I don’t know. With the leagues so large, multiple teams can put up big records by not playing each other. BYU and ISU are undefeated and not scheduled to play. KSU has one loss (to BYU). Colorado has two (NU and KSU). ISU and KSU play late in the season. 
 
If BYU and ISU stay undefeated, they meet in the CCG, and KSU would be the best win for each. 
 
There will be CFP controversy 

On the other hand, it's the B12, so nobody else will give a shit.

[thunderlounge 7813]

55 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

On the other hand, it's the B12, so nobody else will give a shit.

 

[Evil Bill Obrien 3255]

 

Tech fan friend is desperate for this to have been actively exploited as it would totally explain why they inexplicably lost to Baylol and TCU...not buying that quite yet but will be interesting to see if any further smoke comes from the Big 12 or any other leagues with helmet com security issues.

[thunderlounge 7813]

Surely they’re using encrypted coms, right?

Can’t be so easy as to pick up a scanner and listen in.

 

[ztejas 43411]

On 10/25/2024 at 11:26 AM, TKthunder2 said:

that this was the most beneficial arrangement that the Big 12 has over the ACC.

Agree. SMU/Pitt is on fucking ACCN this weekend. 

[Evil Bill Obrien 3255]

1 hour ago, thunderlounge said:

Surely they’re using encrypted coms, right?

Can’t be so easy as to pick up a scanner and listen in.

 

The Big 12 and its members can't really be this dumb can they? Sure seems like the helmet coms were unencrypted...
 

 

[thunderlounge 7813]

Yes. The ncaa CAN be that fucking dumb. 
 

 

['stache 21789]

 

[PvilleStang 2875]

Everyone loves watching a trainwreck, right?

[n64ra 1080]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

 

Fox needs something to take that slot since the Yankees ended the World Series before Game 7.

[thunderlounge 7813]

['stache 21789]

Hadn’t thought it that, surprised there want a more relevant matchup.

['stache 21789]

3 hours ago, n64ra said:

Fox needs something to take that slot since the Yankees ended the World Series before Game 7.

Ah, makes some sense. I'm calling a win for OSU tomorrow, despite a 250 yard performance from Skataboo (however its spelled).

Edited October 31 by 'stache

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1291]

Here's how I see it playing out...

K-State wins out, including a win at ISU.

BYU has a let down after destroying Utah and loses to Kansas.

KSU, ISU, BYU, and Colorado all finish 8-1. Who would go to the championship game?

[TexLonghorn 5660]

9 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

Here's how I see it playing out...

K-State wins out, including a win at ISU.

BYU has a let down after destroying Utah and loses to Kansas.

KSU, ISU, BYU, and Colorado all finish 8-1. Who would go to the championship game?

No one, as usual.  Oh wait, you mean which teams would go.  I gotcha.

[statsman 5449]

Colorado, after the network calls Yormark and Yormark talks to the officials. 

[MissingInAction 25002]

On 10/25/2024 at 12:34 PM, thunderlounge said:

Fuck byu. 
 

Keep lookin in that window. Least ya got “friends” now. 

Who goes to University not fuck or drink?

Fucking weirdos.

[TKthunder2 4985]

6 hours ago, statsman said:

Colorado, after the network calls Yormark and Yormark talks to the officials. 

Will he change the rules mid season again?

[billfromlaketravis 11444]

Colorado is interesting. Sanders is probably the best QB in college football, and their defense is playing much better. 
 

The most dangerous 2 loss team in the country until aggy losses again. 

[Dbuck 0]

 

[LTtxfan 49141]

Only 1 CFP bid for B12 with losses by k-state and cyclones today...

 

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

What a garbage conference top to bottom. I'm going to enjoy watching the MW leap frog them when BYU fucks up. Make the Big 12 into G6.

[LTtxfan 49141]

Gonna be interesting battle to see which 2 teams qualify for B12 Championship Game.  What is tiebreaker of Colorado vs Iowa State vs BYU ???

 

 

Starting to see more talk about Primetime's possibility in B12 Championship... 

Colorado Buffaloes Schedule 2024

 

Iowa State Cyclones Schedule 2024

 

BYU Cougars Schedule 2024

[Hookem10 731]

big 12 is not terrible. entertaining actually. but all I can think of is if we were in the big 12 we would absolutely run through that schedule with a bunch of stat games. I actually like keeping up with acc and big 12 conferences. one bid leagues fighting it out. each game is life and death.  awesome stuff. 

[TKthunder2 4985]

4 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

big 12 is not terrible. entertaining actually. but all I can think of is if we were in the big 12 we would absolutely run through that schedule with a bunch of stat games. I actually like keeping up with acc and big 12 conferences. one bid leagues fighting it out. each game is life and death.  awesome stuff. 

Don’t be aggy. They aren’t great, but they aren’t terrible either. Those teams pulled upsets on us nearly every year from 2010-2022.

[Hookem10 731]

6 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

Don’t be aggy. They aren’t great, but they aren’t terrible either. Those teams pulled upsets on us nearly every year from 2010-2022.

I said a bunch of stat games not all of them. I would fully expect we’d get more than our fair share of jihad games fine sir. I’m not one of those weirdos that says my conference can beat up yours. I believe certain top programs are good no matter what conference they’re in. And all the bottom dwellers are close to the same in power conferences.