Left Behind: A Quick Dose Of Post Big 12 Reality

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

19 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Still upset?   It’s been 6 hours since your initial salvo.  Maybe you and Stache can do something better with your time?  I’d be on the cincy barecarts board if I were you.  
 

seriously when will you get over it?  Hopefully before harvest season

You guys (you guys meaning a small handful of posters) are the ones who keep dredging it up and whining.  2 of the threads I follow had rage posts this morning about comments from the Iowa State AD that were literally echoing comments made by posters here since the day you announced you were leaving.  I didn't post Jamie Pollard's comment.  I wasn't firing shade.  I just pointed out how hypocritical the responding butt hurt was, because there were multiple posts taking shots at my school.

Is there a good Cincy board that discusses a broad range of topics, has a well developed community of people from all over the world with differing view points coming together to discuss them?  I'd be down.  I don't pollute Texas sports threads or SEC threads or sports threads that have nothing to do with my interests.  A thread about the Big 12 going forward and a thread about Iowa State are fairly pertinent to my interests.

I don't have a grudge against Texas for leaving.  The paycheck and exposure are bigger than you'd ever get here.  I get that.  But this insistence on gratitude is A) silly and B) something you're never going to get from your new conference mates either.  Get over that.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Al_4_ISU

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

2 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Admit it - you got lost on the way to the stadium, didn't you??

 

 

Yeah, see that thing with the Iowa State AD.  Pretty much the definition of cunty.

My buddy did, and I was trying to guide him there.  As I was yelling profanities at him over the phone for not being able to see the giant fucking tacklebox with nothing else around it, some old dude came up to me, tried to grab my shirt and started screaming at how "we don't talk like that in front of women in Texas" or something to that effect.  The people with him quickly pulled him away and as the rest of my buddies and I stood around somewhat stunned, some Aggies our age ran up to us and said "do you guys know who just chewed you out?  That was RC Slocum!"

They recognized him on the big screen later in the game for some accomplishment of one of his teams, and sure enough they weren't kidding.  Same guy.

[closetohumping 17401]

2 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

You guys (you guys meaning a small handful of posters) are the ones who keep dredging it up and whining.  2 of the threads I follow had rage posts this morning about comments from the Iowa State AD that were literally echoing comments made by posters here since the day you announced you were leaving.  I didn't post Jamie Pollard's comment.  I wasn't firing shade.  I just pointed out how hypocritical the responding butt hurt was, because there were multiple posts taking shots at my school.

Is there a good Cincy board that discusses a broad range of topics, has a well developed community of people from all over the world with differing view points coming together to discuss them?  I'd be down.  I don't pollute Texas sports threads or SEC threads or sports threads that have nothing to do with my interests.  A thread about the Big 12 going forward and a thread about Iowa State are fairly pertinent to my interests.

I don't have a grudge against Texas for leaving.  The paycheck and exposure are bigger than you'd ever get here.  I get that.  But this insistence on gratitude is A) silly and B) something you're never going to get from your new conference mates either.  Get over that.

We're knowingly joining a conference where we are just one of the guys and we're overjoyed about it.  Most of us are anyway.  

 

Nobody is insisting shit.  But you, a couple of BYU and Okie st guys continue to litter this thread with backhanded shots at Texas.  Get over it.  And don't deny you didn't  Your last post referencing SCAR bending the knee is that exactly.

 

You're angry, you're upset, you feel jilted, yes I get it.  But if it weren't for us and USC, you'd be out of the Power 5.  Do we need your thanks?  Nah, we're happy to leave and be done with you.  But as long as your on a Texas board, at least pretend we're not pieces of shits?

[Deej 76568]

Don't need gratitude, but I seem to remember your panties all in a wad when it was announced we were leaving, and acting as if Texas owed your school something. 

 

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

We're knowingly joining a conference where we are just one of the guys and we're overjoyed about it.  Most of us are anyway.  

 

Nobody is insisting shit.  But you, a couple of BYU and Okie st guys continue to litter this thread with backhanded shots at Texas.  Get over it.  And don't deny you didn't  Your last post referencing SCAR bending the knee is that exactly.

 

You're angry, you're upset, you feel jilted, yes I get it.  But if it weren't for us and USC, you'd be out of the Power 5.  Do we need your thanks?  Nah, we're happy to leave and be done with you.  But as long as your on a Texas board, at least pretend we're not pieces of shits?

It's not a back handed shot at Texas, it's a very open handed shot at the posters who whine about leeches and gratitude.

I'm not conflating those people with the entire community/university/administration/etc.

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

Don't need gratitude, but I seem to remember your panties all in a wad when it was announced we were leaving, and acting as if Texas owed your school something. 

 

We were definitely pissed at the time.  No denying that.  Figured we'd be getting bounced.  If we knew that day what the future arrangement would look like, I think it would have been a much more amicable separation.  There's probably no way for conference realignment to actually be conducted in that manner, but if you could go back in time and have ESPN, Fox, OU, and UT sitting down the Remaining 8 and saying "hey, they're going to the SEC, but we're gonna toss the 4 best G5s in here and give you guys a $50M/year TV contract and access to the expanded playoffs" the Remaining 8 would have said "thanks and good luck in the SEC!"  Obviously there's no way to do that IRL, and it all goes down with a level of shock and surprise that begets anger.

Now that things have sorted, I think it's worked out pretty well for everyone, and I really don't have any ill will towards Texas or OU.  Not the way I do with Nebraska, that's for sure.

I think what's never fully translated is that at the end of the day, our anger was less about schools like Texas and OU wanting to partner with schools like Bama, Georgia, and LSU and more about how schools like Mississippi State and Purdue get to keep riding the gravy train despite not doing a damn thing more than the rest of us. 

[Crockett 488]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

But you, a couple of BYU and Okie st guys continue to litter this thread with backhanded shots at Texas. 

 

[Deej 76568]

4 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

We were definitely pissed at the time.  No denying that.  Figured we'd be getting bounced.  If we knew that day what the future arrangement would look like, I think it would have been a much more amicable separation.  There's probably no way for conference realignment to actually be conducted in that manner, but if you could go back in time and have ESPN, Fox, OU, and UT sitting down the Remaining 8 and saying "hey, they're going to the SEC, but we're gonna toss the 4 best G5s in here and give you guys a $50M/year TV contract and access to the expanded playoffs" the Remaining 8 would have said "thanks and good luck in the SEC!"  Obviously there's no way to do that IRL, and it all goes down with a level of shock and surprise that begets anger.

Now that things have sorted, I think it's worked out pretty well for everyone, and I really don't have any ill will towards Texas or OU.  Not the way I do with Nebraska, that's for sure.

I think what's never fully translated is that at the end of the day, our anger was less about schools like Texas and OU wanting to partner with schools like Bama, Georgia, and LSU and more about how schools like Mississippi State and Purdue get to keep riding the gravy train despite not doing a damn thing more than the rest of us. 

So you were just upset your gravy train could be ending? Got it. 

[Tex Pete 20179]

3 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Whoah… them’s fightin’ words! Best not go there. 
(Some of my cousins are farmers in Iowa)

Hell yes! I own part of a farm in Iowa and receive a check every year. I would put our corn up against a dirty bugeater's any day.

Stop with the corn smack, assholes!

[closetohumping 17401]

17 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It's not a back handed shot at Texas, it's a very open handed shot at the posters who whine about leeches and gratitude.

I'm not conflating those people with the entire community/university/administration/etc.

But they're only responding to your AD and your posts.  Can they be a bit more diplomatic?  Sure.  But we've carried this conference for 25 years, and admittedly, there's some self-interest there, we could've left, but Deloss wanted that network.  

[Armybrat 40744]

23 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

My buddy did, and I was trying to guide him there.  As I was yelling profanities at him over the phone for not being able to see the giant fucking tacklebox with nothing else around it, some old dude came up to me, tried to grab my shirt and started screaming at how "we don't talk like that in front of women in Texas" or something to that effect.  The people with him quickly pulled him away and as the rest of my buddies and I stood around somewhat stunned, some Aggies our age ran up to us and said "do you guys know who just chewed you out?  That was RC Slocum!"

They recognized him on the big screen later in the game for some accomplishment of one of his teams, and sure enough they weren't kidding.  Same guy.

Slocum didn’t talk in front of women in Texas that way.

He just told them to lift their skirts and bend over on his desk.

[Tex Pete 20179]

33 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I just pointed out how hypocritical the responding butt hurt was, because there were multiple posts taking shots at my school.

...

I don't have a grudge against Texas for leaving.  The paycheck and exposure are bigger than you'd ever get here.  I get that.  But this insistence on gratitude is A) silly and B) something you're never going to get from your new conference mates either.  Get over that.

 I don't expect gratitude. Indifference is quite acceptable. The vitriol is what I don't understand. There is no reason for it. We certainly didn't ever do anything to damage Iowa State.

I won't disparage your school because I respect it. I think Iowa State has a lot of disadvantages compared to some other schools in the conference, yet y'all bettered yourselves and took advantages of opportunities. Your ROI on that front is better than ours, at least in football. I respect that.

Your football program was a dumpster fire for a long time, but you weren't content to be a bottom feeder. I hope y'all dominate the new Big 12. As you said above, our interests won't really conflict with each other moving forward, so there is no reason to be bitter.

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

Just now, Tex Pete said:

 I don't expect gratitude. Indifference is quite acceptable. The vitriol is what I don't understand. There is no reason for it. We certainly didn't ever do anything to damage Iowa State.

I won't disparage your school because I respect it. I think Iowa State has a lot of disadvantages compared to some other schools in the conference, yet y'all bettered yourselves and took advantages of opportunities. Your ROI on that front is better than ours, at least in football. I respect that.

Your football program was a dumpster fire for a long time, but you weren't content to be a bottom feeder. I hope y'all dominate the new Big 12. As you said above, our interests won't really conflict with each other moving forward, so there is no reason to be bitter.

I don't have vitriol for your school.  What vitriol are you referring to?  I don't think our AD was all that full of vitriol in the full clip either.

Being annoyed with playing on the LHN isn't vitriol towards UT, IMO.  But I suppose reasonable folks can disagree on that.

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

19 minutes ago, Deej said:

So you were just upset your gravy train could be ending? Got it. 

No.  We're fine earning our way, which the post you quoted made quite clear.  The $50M is our non-UT/OU value.  Seems like a fair price.

It was the potential of relegation.  It's always been the potential of relegation that made us wound up. 

[Josef Pwag 1728]

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

No.  We're fine earning our way 

No, you are not. You are incapable of it. That is what scares you. 

[SimonBolivar 10931]

1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

  I’d be on the cincy barecats board if I were you.  

 

We all would be if it were a thing. Who wouldn't want to see what those commuters have going on?

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

1 minute ago, Josef Pwag said:

No, you are not. You are incapable of it. That is what scares you. 

You know the Big 12 has already signed a non UT and OU related media deal right?

[Evil Bill Obrien 3192]

32 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I think what's never fully translated is that at the end of the day, our anger was less about schools like Texas and OU wanting to partner with schools like Bama, Georgia, and LSU and more about how schools like Mississippi State and Purdue get to keep riding the gravy train despite not doing a damn thing more than the rest of us. 

Sorry bruh, life/business/conference realignment ain't fair, moose out front should have told ya...

[closetohumping 17401]

3 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

We all would be if it were a thing. Who wouldn't want to see what those commuters have going on?

Cincy is going to be relevant.  They’ll have the commuter bowl vs coogar high and the tuberville bowl vs tech.  Byu and baylor will be interesting as well 

[Uncle Nate 2097]

17 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

No.  We're fine earning our way, which the post you quoted made quite clear.  The $50M is our non-UT/OU value.  Seems like a fair price.

It was the potential of relegation.  It's always been the potential of relegation that made us wound up. 

Yeah, once the playoffs expanded to 12 and the Big 12 was most likely assured their champ would have a spot at the table (barring something really crazy like an unranked champion), I was no longer concerned about relegation.  The TV deal calmed my remaining fears.  A playoff spot and linear TV.  You can recruit to that. 

In the end, the money and exposure is all about one thing:  getting recruits and good coaches.  And it should go without saying that a Big 12 school could even sell recruits and coaches on the idea that the path to the playoffs is a little less harrowing than in the SEC and BIG.

I'm good with where we are.  Wouldn't mind adding the 4 corner schools to help entrench the conference in this position a little further.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Uncle Nate

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

19 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

Yeah, once the playoffs expanded to 12 and the Big 12 was most likely assured their champ would have a spot at the table (barring something really crazy like an unranked champion), I was no longer concerned about relegation.  The TV deal calmed my remaining fears.  A playoff spot and linear TV.  You can recruit to that. 

In the end, the money and exposure is all about one thing:  getting recruits and good coaches.  And it should go without saying that a Big 12 school could even sell recruits and coaches on the idea that the path to the playoffs is a little less harrowing than in the SEC and BIG.

I'm good with where we are.  Wouldn't mind adding the 4 corner schools to help entrench the conference in this position a little further.

Yup.  All of this.  100% cosigned.

[Magus Ossis 2784]

Ultimately, I think the combination of Texas to the SEC, moving to NIL, and expanding the playoff field to 12 teams is good for almost everybody errbody from the old 12:

1. Athletes may be better compensated for their talents and efforts.

2. Texas leverages the wealth of its donor base to support our recruiting, and sponsors have more avenues.

3. Texas and SEC both improve their TV revenue situations in the marriage.

4. Texas is still virtually guaranteed a playoff berth and chance at redemption in seasons marred by one frustrating loss. Finishing in the top 3 in the SEC is basically an autobid, and 4th still looks not-bad.

5. The Big 12 remnants will have a clear path to the playoffs that does not require beating a single traditional power.

6. Sadly for teams that benefitted from the limited policing of under-the-table money previously, not everyone can be a winner in this. Boo hoo.

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

9 minutes ago, Magus Ossis said:

Ultimately, I think the combination of Texas to the SEC, moving to NIL, and expanding the playoff field to 12 teams is good for almost everybody errbody from the old 12:

1. Athletes may be better compensated for their talents and efforts.

2. Texas leverages the wealth of its donor base to support our recruiting, and sponsors have more avenues.

3. Texas and SEC both improve their TV revenue situations in the marriage.

4. Texas is still virtually guaranteed a playoff berth and chance at redemption in seasons marred by one frustrating loss. Finishing in the top 3 in the SEC is basically an autobid, and 4th still looks not-bad.

5. The Big 12 remnants will have a clear path to the playoffs that does not require beating a single traditional power.

6. Sadly for teams that benefitted from the limited policing of under-the-table money previously, not everyone can be a winner in this. Boo hoo.

Pretty much agree with all of this, but I think #4 would have been true regardless of Texas's conference affiliation.

[Creasy Bear 665]

2 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

You guys (you guys meaning a small handful of posters) are the ones who keep dredging it up and whining.  2 of the threads I follow had rage posts this morning about comments from the Iowa State AD that were literally echoing comments made by posters here since the day you announced you were leaving.  I didn't post Jamie Pollard's comment.  I wasn't firing shade.  I just pointed out how hypocritical the responding butt hurt was, because there were multiple posts taking shots at my school.

Is there a good Cincy board that discusses a broad range of topics, has a well developed community of people from all over the world with differing view points coming together to discuss them?  I'd be down.  I don't pollute Texas sports threads or SEC threads or sports threads that have nothing to do with my interests.  A thread about the Big 12 going forward and a thread about Iowa State are fairly pertinent to my interests.

I don't have a grudge against Texas for leaving.  The paycheck and exposure are bigger than you'd ever get here.  I get that.  But this insistence on gratitude is A) silly and B) something you're never going to get from your new conference mates either.  Get over that.

Just like Texas, Surly also dominates in its spectrum of power & influence.  It is good to be the King. 

['stache 21774]

8 minutes ago, Creasy Bear said:

Just like Texas, Surly also dominates in its spectrum of power & influence.  It is good to be the King. 

My only vitriol is that you guys only bang 10s and I'm stuck with a 4.

[FartingDreamer 138]

3 hours ago, closetohumping said:

We're knowingly joining a conference where we are just one of the guys and we're overjoyed about it.  Most of us are anyway.  

 

Nobody is insisting shit.  But you, a couple of BYU and Okie st guys continue to litter this thread with backhanded shots at Texas.  Get over it.  And don't deny you didn't  Your last post referencing SCAR bending the knee is that exactly.

 

You're angry, you're upset, you feel jilted, yes I get it.  But if it weren't for us and USC, you'd be out of the Power 5.  Do we need your thanks?  Nah, we're happy to leave and be done with you.  But as long as your on a Texas board, at least pretend we're not pieces of shits?

How was I taking shots at Texas?     

[Vertigo 20267]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

My only vitriol is that you guys only bang 10s and I'm stuck with a 4.

Everyone knows that you trade the 40 in for 2 20's. Redundancy and risk mitigation. C'mon man, have we taught you nothing?

[closetohumping 17401]

16 minutes ago, FartingDreamer said:

How was I taking shots at Texas?     

Who the hell are you?

[Horn Dog 9672]

3 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

"thanks and good luck in the SEC!"  

See, that’s all we wanted.  Wasn’t that hard….

[fattyflattie 4636]

3 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Byu and baylor will be interesting as well 

Another meteor bowl.  

['stache 21774]

4 hours ago, closetohumping said:

We're knowingly joining a conference where we are just one of the guys and we're overjoyed about it.  Most of us are anyway.  

 

Nobody is insisting shit.  But you, a couple of BYU and Okie st guys continue to litter this thread with backhanded shots at Texas.  Get over it.  And don't deny you didn't  Your last post referencing SCAR bending the knee is that exactly.

 

You're angry, you're upset, you feel jilted, yes I get it.  But if it weren't for us and USC, you'd be out of the Power 5.  Do we need your thanks?  Nah, we're happy to leave and be done with you.  But as long as your on a Texas board, at least pretend we're not pieces of shits?

It's not a shot at Texas, it's pushback to the constant "leeches" and "gravy train" trope. I think we're good here. We're speaking different languages. You see vitriol, we see pushback to "leeches" talk. This is a Texas board, so it is what it is, I like this place, including the non-sports stuff. Our football series is over, and we both still hate ou. That will always be true. BTW, the OSU boards have taken to calling ou UTN (UT-Norman), the idea being that they are bitches and followers. We know its about the money, but it's fun because fuck ou.

[Uncle Nate 2097]

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

It's not a shot at Texas, it's pushback to the constant "leeches" and "gravy train" trope. I think we're good here. We're speaking different languages. You see vitriol, we see pushback to "leeches" talk. This is a Texas board, so it is what it is, I like this place, including the non-sports stuff. Our football series is over, and we both still hate ou. That will always be true. BTW, the OSU boards have taken to calling ou UTN (UT-Norman), the idea being that they are bitches and followers. We know its about the money, but it's fun because fuck ou.

So what OSU boards would you recommend?

[hook me 2080]

5 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

So what OSU boards would you recommend?

Probably one that TTU or KU has already started...

[Uncle Nate 2097]

7 minutes ago, hook me said:

Probably one that TTU or KU has already started...

[Ignatius 4002]

5 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

My buddy did, and I was trying to guide him there.  As I was yelling profanities at him over the phone for not being able to see the giant fucking tacklebox with nothing else around it, some old dude came up to me, tried to grab my shirt and started screaming at how "we don't talk like that in front of women in Texas" or something to that effect.  The people with him quickly pulled him away and as the rest of my buddies and I stood around somewhat stunned, some Aggies our age ran up to us and said "do you guys know who just chewed you out?  That was RC Slocum!"

They recognized him on the big screen later in the game for some accomplishment of one of his teams, and sure enough they weren't kidding.  Same guy.

So this was case where R.C. DID offer…to KICK YOUR ASS!!!!!

[Royale with cheese 1460]

5 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Yup.  All of this.  100% cosigned.

You sound like a good dude. I don't know you, of course, but I'm familiar with your history as a measured, responsible Surly poster. I, for one, hope you stick around after this last B-12 season.

[Gidnik 3251]

iowa states bridge is ugly

[TKthunder2 4981]

Just to be crystal fucking clear. The Big 12 (not Texas or Oklahoma) invited cougar high, magic underwear, and whoever else to join this conference EARLY.

Any fucking pain in the ass bullshit they are going through is 100% their fucking fault, not Texas or Oklahoma.

FOX didn’t want to let Texas/Oklahoma go, maybe you negotiate that shit BEFORE you invite more people to the fucking table. Go cry me a fucking river.

Also Texas owns its third tier rights and can do what is pleases because they AGREED TO EQUAL REVENUE SHARING, you know that windfall of money from the checks you’ve been cashing for over a decade.

[MuellerHorn 4195]

6 hours ago, 'stache said:

It's not a shot at Texas, it's pushback to the constant "leeches" and "gravy train" trope. I think we're good here. We're speaking different languages. You see vitriol, we see pushback to "leeches" talk. This is a Texas board, so it is what it is, I like this place, including the non-sports stuff. Our football series is over, and we both still hate ou. That will always be true. BTW, the OSU boards have taken to calling ou UTN (UT-Norman), the idea being that they are bitches and followers. We know its about the money, but it's fun because fuck ou.

Which is cleverly ironic, because it's actually kind of true. There are so many kids from Dallas that end up at OU because they don't get into Texas.

[Sandbagging Steve 982]

Old Big 12: "I'm no longer slinging vitriol because we will be taken care of and everything is good now. I don't think you should accuse me, Al/Big 12, of vitriol. You see, I take it back now because I found out later we are going to be okay! If we weren't going to be okay, well, FUCK YOU!!! IT'S YOUR FAULT!! But you need to stop abusing us Texas. GROW UP! HYPOCRITE! Even though UT was just responding to our temper tantrum, we didn't mean it because we now know we are going to be just fine! Please stop responding to us when we throw out vitriol. Only we get to do that. YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE TEXAS!"

This is one of the few reasons we are leaving this conference. When you blame someone else for your own problems instead of looking in the mirror, it finally just becomes too much of a distraction. When you have multiple personality disorder, it's not a healthy environment. We have to concede everything to the Big 12 or you run to the media and spread a bunch of fucking lies. It's been happening for 25 years! 

There was so much vitriol by the other members of the Big 12. Efforts to gang up on mean ol' Texas! Everything is always UT's fault! When you get your way, it's all good. When something goes UT's way...OMG, BULLSHIT!! BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! 

Whether you got a seat at the table or not has nothing to do with whether you should be here blaming Texas. You don't get to take back your previous actions. If you would have been relegated, you would be on here blaming Texas when we did nothing to you. And many of us here told you people (especially Al) that you would have a seat at the table and yet you kept whining and crying like a little child. And then you come here and blame us for calling YOU out for your behavior. On a TEXAS board.

[Hurtlocker 2208]

12 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

My buddy did, and I was trying to guide him there.  As I was yelling profanities at him over the phone for not being able to see the giant fucking tacklebox with nothing else around it, some old dude came up to me, tried to grab my shirt and started screaming at how "we don't talk like that in front of women in Texas" or something to that effect.  The people with him quickly pulled him away and as the rest of my buddies and I stood around somewhat stunned, some Aggies our age ran up to us and said "do you guys know who just chewed you out?  That was RC Slocum!"

They recognized him on the big screen later in the game for some accomplishment of one of his teams, and sure enough they weren't kidding.  Same guy.

 

[Paul Wesley 3277]

14 hours ago, Vertigo said:

 

The simple truth is that the economics models were never compatible. When Texas/OU made moves that were right for them, everyone else complained about it because it had such ripple effects on the rest of the conference. Our viewership was outsized, our revenue was outsized, and then everyone got pissy about us wanting a bigger piece of the pie. Fine, I get it (and yes, Deloss was a real dick about it). But now we are entering a conference where the economics are more evenly distributed across a number of other brands, so not everything is about what we are doing. Quite frankly, that is refreshing. We have been villainized for everything in this conference when the rest of the schools literally sat on their asses and did nothing for two decades except complain about what we were doing to further our brand. 

This pretty much sums it up for me too. 
 

 

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

9 hours ago, Royale with cheese said:

You sound like a good dude. I don't know you, of course, but I'm familiar with your history as a measured, responsible Surly poster. I, for one, hope you stick around after this last B-12 season.

I love the non-sports boards.  If there’s any CFB in general or Big 12 threads I’ll probably post in those.

[closetohumping 17401]

10 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

Just to be crystal fucking clear. The Big 12 (not Texas or Oklahoma) invited cougar high, magic underwear, and whoever else to join this conference EARLY.

Any fucking pain in the ass bullshit they are going through is 100% their fucking fault, not Texas or Oklahoma.

FOX didn’t want to let Texas/Oklahoma go, maybe you negotiate that shit BEFORE you invite more people to the fucking table. Go cry me a fucking river.

Also Texas owns its third tier rights and can do what is pleases because they AGREED TO EQUAL REVENUE SHARING, you know that windfall of money from the checks you’ve been cashing for over a decade.

Meh.  Those 4 are so ugly they're just happy to get an invite anywhere.  They will bend the proverbial knobby knee.

[WBT 20422]

#teamAl

This thread is so fucking aggy.  Some of you are probably finalizing the billboard in Waco as we speak.

[Laxtonto 11934]

3 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I love the non-sports boards.  If there’s any CFB in general or Big 12 threads I’ll probably post in those.

Al will find a way to stick around, even if we need to make a dedicated Big12-2-2+2-2+4 thread for him.

I have a hard time hating on ISU too much longterm because past history shows that the B12 will fuck them at random anyways. Will be more interesting is what does OSU become without big brother? Do they become a solid member and help lead the conference forward or do they become aggy and obsess over the loss of big brother like an obsessed jilted lover.

['stache 21774]

There is no dynamic anywhere like aggy. We’re on solid ground. Our fans will still talk shit to them and they’ll still talk down to us, and we’ll laugh because 90% of them are GED candidates who probably couldn’t point to Norman on a map. Our administrators are grown ups and we’ll probably still play each other in most sports, just not football, at least not for a while. 

[BurntOrange&White 39661]

5 minutes ago, 'stache said:

There is no dynamic anywhere like aggy. We’re on solid ground. Our fans will still talk shit to them and they’ll still talk down to us, and we’ll laugh because 90% of them are GED candidates who probably couldn’t point to Norman on a map. Our administrators are grown ups and we’ll probably still play each other in most sports, just not football, at least not for a while. 

Oklahoma aggy

4 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I love the non-sports boards.  If there’s any CFB in general or Big 12 threads I’ll probably post in those.

Corn aggy

[DFW Horn 6118]

16 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Oklahoma aggy

Corn aggy

I thought Nebraska was corn aggy?

[alincoln 2364]

18 hours ago, Creasy Bear said:

Just like Texas, Surly also dominates in its spectrum of power & influence.  It is good to be the King. 

The King of Power and Influence?  At least we have that in addition to a bunch of Alamo Bowl appearances, NCAA Tournament first weekend exits and monthly payments to failed coaches in the revenue sports.  3 regular season (none since 2008) and 1 tournament basketball conference titles and 3 football conference titles (none since 2009) in 25 years.  We really owned this conference.  Keep jerking off to the revenue table and other people's money though.  Truly aggy-level coping.