New SEC divisions and pods thread (Page 30 starts recent discussion)

[mdmost 42,996]

Let's go my pod people. Let's do this discussion in here so we don't muddy up the already way to fast realignment thread.

Good Twitter thread on this

 

Edited July 23, 2021 by mdmost

[Queen Bitch 1,692]

I truly cannot stop cackling at the possibility of locking aggy into a Big XII pod for the rest of their SEC days.

(yes I said this on the other thread and yes I'm copy/pasting it here)

[billfromlaketravis 11,444]

The SEC Network didn't put this on one of their shows without some reasoning behind it. I think it'll look exactly like this: 

[Saint Austin 745]

Here's my preference:

WEST DIVISION:
Pod 1:
Texas
A&M
OU
Arkansas

Pod 2:
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss St.
LSU

EAST DIVISION:
Pod 3:
Alabama
Auburn
Vandy
Tennessee

Pod 4:
Kentucky
S.C.
Georgia
Florida

Fits well geographically and is mostly equally competitive (except for maybe Pod 2).

 

[mdmost 42,996]

2 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The SEC Network didn't put this on one of their shows without some reasoning behind it. I think it'll look exactly like this: 

I do think the SEC will throw aggy a bone and keep them in a pod with LSU and away from us and OU. If the vote is 14-0, I bet it would be an absolute certainty. 

[Harrison Bergeron 1,798]

Fuck Misery. OU-UT-pig-texas state.

[smuggs 9,350]

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

Dang I would miss the annual bama aggy beatdown

[Neonmoon 38,129]

The only question is where Aggy or Arkansas end up (and Mizzou because of it)

Meaning whoever of Aggy or Arkansas throw a bigger hissy fit about being in the TX/OU pod. 

[mdmost 42,996]

3 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

The only question is where Aggy or Arkansas end up (and Mizzou because of it)

Meaning whoever of Aggy or Arkansas throw a bigger hissy fit about being in the TX/OU pod. 

You have to think the Arkansas administration want to play us. They still have Beat Texas week when we've played them since they left. 

[JimmyJames 12,271]

13 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I do think the SEC will throw aggy a bone and keep them in a pod with LSU and away from us and OU. If the vote is 14-0, I bet it would be an absolute certainty. 

This. 

[JimmyJames 12,271]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

You have to think the Arkansas administration want to play us. They still have Beat Texas week when we've played them since they left. 

And this. You are a very wise man, grasshopper. 

[JimmyJames 12,271]

5 minutes ago, sportsbay said:

Mizzou will as well.  They will be the constant door mat.

Nobody gives one shit what Missouri thinks. They will do as told. 

[billfromlaketravis 11,444]

I think Missouri is our punishment for being new members. Piggy, and OU are real rivalries, so I'm good with it. 

Aggy ducks us again. 

[Chuckie Finster 22,690]

21 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The SEC Network didn't put this on one of their shows without some reasoning behind it. I think it'll look exactly like this: 

This is the best one I've seen.  Alabama has the easiest pod, but about as even as you'll be able to realistically draw up. 

I think a big key would be some sort of permanent rival outside of your pod (aggy for us).  This would allow some of the rivalries that might get split by this setup to continue, and when you add it to the 3 games within your own + 4 games vs. rotating pods, then that gives you a pretty clean 8 game conference schedule.  (Obviously there would need to be some caveat for what happens when your rival is in the pod you are scheduled to face that year but I'm sure that could be figured out pretty easily.)

Edited July 23, 2021 by Chuckie Finster

[mdmost 42,996]

I'm more of a divisional guy but I don't see Florida and Georgia wanting Alabama and Auburn in their division, which is the only way it makes sense. Plus it moves Mizzou back to a more sensible region. So the pods actually does work best for all parties while protecting multiple rivalries. 

Edited July 23, 2021 by mdmost

[Bojack 2,073]

17 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The SEC Network didn't put this on one of their shows without some reasoning behind it. I think it'll look exactly like this: 

If it's pods, it has to be this.  If you were to switch aggy for Missouri or Arkansas, it would throw off the competitive balance.  Missouri will like this because it gets them out of the east and should help them recruit Texas.  I think Arkansas will like it because it helps them recruit Texas plus we're their rival, not aggy.  Florida and Georgia get to keep their cocktail party and don't have to play Bama every year.  LSU keeps their rivalry with the gomers and more of a foothold in Texas than they'd get from Missouri.  

[Js1 85,238]

3 minutes ago, Bojack said:

If it's pods, it has to be this.  If you were to switch aggy for Missouri or Arkansas, it would throw off the competitive balance.  Missouri will like this because it gets them out of the east and should help them recruit Texas.  I think Arkansas will like it because it helps them recruit Texas plus we're their rival, not aggy.  Florida and Georgia get to keep their cocktail party and don't have to play Bama every year.  LSU keeps their rivalry with the gomers and more of a foothold in Texas than they'd get from Missouri.  

Will this mean no permanent cross-pod rival game?  if you play 2 against each other pods + the 3 in your pod?

it would kinda suck to not have annual Texas-A&M, Arkansas-LSU, Alabama-Tennessee, Georgia-Auburn games anymore. 

[Chuckie Finster 22,690]

5 minutes ago, sportsbay said:

 

How would the championship play out without having too many rematches?

Just spitballing, but another option would be having the final week be a flex week.  Winner Pod A vs Winner Pod B (and C vs. D) and the non winners all play the corresponding team from that pod as well.  Would have to rotate to ensure that the pod you are paired with is not the same as the pod on your schedule that year.  Then two winners play each other in SEC Championship.

Obviously gets a little hairy, but probably easy enough to professionals to figure out.

[Aqua Buddha 14,581]

With the pods, do you think there will be an effort to bring the annual UT/Aggy game back, whether it's on Thanksgiving or otherwise?  I do think OU will want to keep playing Okie State and that could work on Thanksgiving weekend.

I'll hang up and listen.

[Bojack 2,073]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Will this mean no permanent cross-pod rival game?  if you play 2 against each other pods + the 3 in your pod?

it would kinda suck to not have annual Texas-A&M, Arkansas-LSU, Alabama-Tennessee, Georgia-Auburn games anymore. 

I don't see why not have a cross pod rivalry for everyone. Seriously wouldn't surprise me if aggy pushed for theirs to be Arkansas and vice versa.  We can play Bama, Georgia or whoever else wants some out of the east.  

[SarkAfterDark 1,688]

I do think the SEC will throw Aggie a bone and not put them in the same pod as UT

[nineliveslost 2,753]

Everyone sure (surly) seems confident this is going to happen. I hope we arent counting our chickens too quick 

[Js1 85,238]

1 minute ago, nineliveslost said:

Everyone sure (surly) seems confident this is going to happen. I hope we arent counting our chickens too quick 

It's been a loooong decade since we were all making plans for road trips to California for Pac-16 games. 

[bamachine 1,230]

I just want to say, if this does go through, welcome and don't dare say anything about us avoiding any OOC home and home for the next couple of years.

[mdmost 42,996]

2 minutes ago, nineliveslost said:

Everyone sure (surly) seems confident this is going to happen. I hope we arent counting our chickens too quick 

We aren't controlled by slap dicks like Deloss and Powers. It's happening. 

[Texasrocks 2,134]

Slightly different topic and it'll never happen, but move to 4 16 conferences, all of them organized by pods. Each conference has a tournament and the four champions get seeded by rank in a 4 team playoff. You could add a "losers" bracket and the highest rated teams from the non-Big 4 to give other conferences a chance.

Alternatively, send all pod winners and reserve 4 spots for other conferences/the highest ranked teams that didn't win their pod for a 16 team playoff. 

 

[Zeus 6,010]

As long as my Gators get to play LSU every year still. There's a good rivalry there I don't want to lose.

Rivals in division play every year, pods play eachother, other pods rotate between pods.

Fuck aggy

I think it's hilarious blowU is gonna ride our coattails wherever we want to go.

Super conferences here we come!

Yes I want this to go to ole miss every other year

Best Pod

Texas

blow U

piggy

Ole Miss

Bama's Pod

Alabama

auburn

Tennishit

aggy

LSU's Pod

LSU

Miss State

Mizzu

Vandy

Florida's Pod

Florida

Gawja

Kentucky

USC

 

[TexArcher 37,750]

1 hour ago, Queen Bitch said:

I truly cannot stop cackling at the possibility of locking aggy into a Big XII pod for the rest of their SEC days.

(yes I said this on the other thread and yes I'm copy/pasting it here)

Those arrogant sips rode our coattails to the S-E-C and now they're acting like they run things and forcing us to go back to getting our shit pushed in by them and ou all the time again.  God dammit.  I shoulda studied for the SAT.

[Neonmoon 38,129]

30 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

With the pods, do you think there will be an effort to bring the annual UT/Aggy game back, whether it's on Thanksgiving or otherwise?  I do think OU will want to keep playing Okie State and that could work on Thanksgiving weekend.

I'll hang up and listen.

Normally…yes, but the depths of Aggy’s crybaby syndrome knows no limits. If they are vehemently opposed, then doubt it. 

[Ldogg53 514]

13 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

I do think the SEC will throw Aggie a bone and not put them in the same pod as UT

Agreed.  Like I said last night, aggys biggest win since joining the sec is not losing to us.  

[mdmost 42,996]

I would imagine pods would have at least one cross-pod rivalry game that are protected. 

[Hook1997 5,350]

20 minutes ago, Texasrocks said:

 

Alternatively, send all pod winners and reserve 4 spots for other conferences/the highest ranked teams that didn't win their pod for a 16 team playoff. 

 

Yea that doesn’t really work at all.  You could have “pod winners” that aren’t ranked or even with overall losing records still if a pod really sucks that year.  

Edited July 23, 2021 by Hook1997

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

56 minutes ago, sportsbay said:

 

How would the championship play out without having too many rematches?

Top 2 conference record out of the pod winners?  
You Can’t avoid the occasional rematch, but you are more likely to have ties for the pod winner

[Kyrie Eleison 9,312]

20 minutes ago, Zeus said:

As long as my Gators get to play LSU every year still. There's a good rivalry there I don't want to lose.

Rivals in division play every year, pods play eachother, other pods rotate between pods.

Fuck aggy

I think it's hilarious blowU is gonna ride our coattails wherever we want to go.

Super conferences here we come!

Yes I want this to go to ole miss every other year

Best Pod

Texas

blow U

piggy

Ole Miss

Bama's Pod

Alabama

auburn

Tennishit

aggy

LSU's Pod

LSU

Miss State

Mizzu

Vandy

Florida's Pod

Florida

Gawja

Kentucky

USC

 

 

 

[Barbacoa 1,934]

Not a fan of pods. I want to play:

OU

LSU

Aggy

Arky

Every year. LSU/Texas and LSU/OU will be huge and need to happen. 

[maninblack 7,974]

People can slice the pods in a lot of ways. What I want to see regardless of your preference is to see the pods rotate play to a different pod each year. Then two teams from the farthest (scheduling wise) pod away round out the 9 game conference schedule. 

So for example if our pod was Texas, aggy, OU and Mizzou

Year 1

Texas plays one pod over (LSU, Pig, Ole Miss, Miss St.) and Kentucky and Georgia.

Year 2

Texas plays two pods over (Vols, Vandy, Bama, Auburn) and Ole Miss and Miss St.

Year 3

Texas plays three pods over (Kentucky, USCe, Georgia, Florida) and Vols and Vandy.

Year 4

Texas plays one pod over (LSU, Pig, Ole Miss, Miss St.) and USCe and Florida.

Year 5

Texas plays two pods over (Vols, Vandy, Bama, Auburn) and LSU and Pig.

And the pattern continues. 

 

This ensures everyone is playing each other and there's opportunities for home/away games that don't take forever to get to.

Edited July 23, 2021 by maninblack

[Zeus 6,010]

8 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

 

 

Fuck yo shoe beech

[bamachine 1,230]

Again, if this happens and we go to pods, the following should be the pods.

West pod-Horns, OU, aTm, Arkie

River pod-LSU, Mizzou, Ole Miss, MSU

Central pod-Bama, AU, UTN, Vandy

East pod-UGA, UF, SCar, UK

You play your three pod members, you have a fixed opponent in each of the other three pods, you play one other pod, rotating each year. Within 3 years, you have played every other team at least once. Bama's fixed opponents from other pods, Horns(because I say so plus already on schedule the next two years), LSU, SCar(AU-UGA, UF-UTN &Vandy-UK are already a thing).

[Neonmoon 38,129]

17 minutes ago, maninblack said:

People can slice the pods in a lot of ways. What I want to see regardless of your preference is to see the pods rotate play to a different pod each year. Then two teams from the farthest (scheduling wise) pod away round out the 9 game conference schedule. 

So for example if our pod was Texas, aggy, OU and Mizzou

Year 1

Texas plays one pod over (LSU, Pig, Ole Miss, Miss St.) and Kentucky and Georgia.

Year 2

Texas plays two pods over (Vols, Vandy, Bama, Auburn) and Ole Miss and Miss St.

Year 3

Texas plays three pods over (Kentucky, USCe, Georgia, Florida) and Vols and Vandy.

Year 4

Texas plays one pod over (LSU, Pig, Ole Miss, Miss St.) and USCe and Florida.

Year 5

Texas plays two pods over (Vols, Vandy, Bama, Auburn) and LSU and Pig.

And the pattern continues. 

 

This ensures everyone is playing each other and there's opportunities for home/away games that don't take forever to get to.

Or you do it the simpler way, that the SEC channel listed, and you basically play everyone every 2 years 

Odd Year: OU, Piggy, Mizzou, LSU, Ole Miss, Vandy, Auburn, Georgia, Kentucky

Even Year: OU, Piggy, Mizzou, Aggy, Miss State, Tennessee, Bama, Florida, South Carolina 

 

[Valmy77 13,222]

So long as we play Piggie and OU every year I am good. Let the hate flow!

And...I guess A&M as well. If we must.

[Valmy77 13,222]

3 minutes ago, bamachine said:

Again, if this happens and we go to pods, the following should be the pods.

West pod-Horns, OU, aTm, Arkie

River pod-LSU, Mizzou, Ole Miss, MSU

Central pod-Bama, AU, UTN, Vandy

East pod-UGA, UF, SCar, UK

You play your three pod members, you have a fixed opponent in each of the other three pods, you play one other pod, rotating each year. Within 3 years, you have played every other team at least once. Bama's fixed opponents from other pods, Horns(because I say so plus already on schedule the next two years), LSU, SCar(AU-UGA, UF-UTN &Vandy-UK are already a thing).

This is exactly right. I endorse this structure.

[mdmost 42,996]

Recalibrate your pods. Texas, aggy, and OU will play together.

 

[Pancho 44,673]

 

[Neonmoon 38,129]

That makes the most sense 

[Kyrie Eleison 9,312]

33 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Fuck yo shoe beech

lol...

 

[GTX Horn 1,707]

Us, aggy, ou, and piggy in a pod makes the most sense for sure.

[closetohumping 17,429]

13 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Recalibrate your pods. Texas, aggy, and OU will play together.

 

Lfg!!

[DFW Horn 6,123]

I truly cannot stop cackling at the possibility of locking aggy into a Big XII pod for the rest of their SEC days.
(yes I said this on the other thread and yes I'm copy/pasting it here)

Maybe so, but I think the SEC will throw aggy a bone and align them with LSU and the Mississippi's. We'll get OU, Arky, and Mizzou.

Sorry we reneged on our "gentleman's agreement'.

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[closetohumping 17,429]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

It's been a loooong decade since we were all making plans for road trips to California for Pac-16 games. 

It’s over.  We’re in