New SEC divisions and pods thread (Page 30 starts recent discussion)

[SEC 1174]

4 minutes ago, maninblack said:

I'd rather add Iowa State

Iowa State beats texas more frequently than nebraska

[maninblack 7974]

3 minutes ago, BigXII said:

Iowa State beats texas more frequently than nebraska

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

My preference

Pod 1

texas, ou, arky, Missou, lsu

pod 2

bama, auburn, miss, miss st, tenn

pod 3 

georgia, Florida,  carolina, Kentucky, vandy

 

gtfo

aggy

 

you play your 4 pod mates and either all 5 of another pod on rotation or 2 and 3. Sends a few rivalries to every other year but not many. 

[Bullneck 19090]

9 hours ago, mdmost said:

I do think the SEC will throw aggy a bone and keep them in a pod with LSU and away from us and OU. If the vote is 14-0, I bet it would be an absolute certainty. 

 

8 hours ago, SarkAfterDark said:

I do think the SEC will throw Aggie a bone and not put them in the same pod as UT

7 hours ago, DFW Horn said:

Maybe so, but I think the SEC will throw aggy a bone and align them with LSU and the Mississippi's. We'll get OU, Arky, and Mizzou.

Sorry we reneged on our "gentleman's agreement'.

Sent from my SM-A716V using Tapatalk
 

Edited July 24, 2021 by Bullneck

[A’Dam Psycho 1470]

A: Texas, OU, A&M, Mizzou

B: Bama, Auburn, UGA, Florida 

C : LSU, Arky, Ole Miss, Miss St

D : Tenn, Vandy, Kentucky, Scar

 

I honestly don’t see any other way this shakes out if they go 4x4. Bama-Aub, UGA-Aub, & UGA-Fla are too big for the SEC to end. Arky & LSU I think have to be together to give LSU a rival. This makes the most sense

[drifter379 1106]

Fuck a bunch of pods. 

[maninblack 7974]

1 hour ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

A: Texas, OU, A&M, Mizzou

B: Bama, Auburn, UGA, Florida 

C : LSU, Arky, Ole Miss, Miss St

D : Tenn, Vandy, Kentucky, Scar

 

I honestly don’t see any other way this shakes out if they go 4x4.

There's "honestly" no other way you see this shaking out? Come on let's be serious. Bama and Tennesee is one of the biggest rivalries. Putting UGA, UF and Bama in the same pod is the same as putting Texas, OU and LSU. It'd be fun but counter productive and unnecessary. 

[maninblack 7974]

5 minutes ago, drifter379 said:

Fuck a bunch of pods. 

[thunderlounge 7834]

6 minutes ago, drifter379 said:

Fuck a bunch of pods. 

7 division games, 1 permanent from the other division, 1 rotates through the others. 
 

No oddball way to determine who goes to the CCG, rivalries protected, tv gets matchups, etc. 

 

Too simple to do that though. 

[maninblack 7974]

8 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

7 division games, 1 permanent from the other division, 1 rotates through the others. 
 

No oddball way to determine who goes to the CCG, rivalries protected, tv gets matchups, etc. 

 

Too simple to do that though. 

It's also simple to have 3 regional rivals and rotate the other 6 teams. Play everyone regularly, mix it up and have fun. I mean why be stuck in 1980 if you don't have to be. Expand your imagination.

[thunderlounge 7834]

I wasn’t advocating that. I couldn’t care less how they form the line to pick up their loss. 

[maninblack 7974]

20 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

I wasn’t advocating that. I couldn’t care less how they form the line to pick up their loss. 

Good haha

[maninblack 7974]

2 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Schedules would potentially be way too imbalanced with the pods.  

I 100% disagree with this. The "pod" only means you play the 3 regional teams every year. If you lay out the map that covers almost every rivalry because rivalries were developed throughout history by geography. 

After that myself and @Neonmoon proposed systems, albeit his was more straightforward, that allowed for team to maintain almost every historical rival and play every other team in the conference every other year. 

It honestly takes a lack of imagination to suggest divisions in 2021. There's rivalries that we can enhance and promote and also diversity of schedule possible. 

[maninblack 7974]

15 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Too much diversity of schedule isn’t a good thing when you are trying to determine a conference champion.  Divisions mean you’re guaranteed to be on more or less even footing with your competitors for the spot in the conference championship.   Pods would guarantee some years where strength of schedule is wildly different within the conference.

Who cares? Make it fun. There's only 3 teams you play every year and there's a way to play every team every other year. 

So some years it might be imbalanced. That happens now. I don't understand why someone would support a system where you couldn't duck anyone. 

[Cajun 11705]

So will wherever Bama ends up be called the Tide Pod?

Edited July 24, 2021 by Cajun
I'm sure someone beat me to this, but it needed to be put out there just in case

[Neonmoon 38129]

The two division system mean you’re playing the other division teams once every 4 years. 

Pods system you play everyone every 2 years

why would anyone choose the divisions? 

[formermav43 4606]

3 hours ago, maninblack said:

Who cares? Make it fun. There's only 3 teams you play every year and there's a way to play every team every other year. 

So some years it might be imbalanced. That happens now. I don't understand why someone would support a system where you couldn't duck anyone. 

If you really don't support a system where you can't duck anyone, then you should want to stay in the Big 12. 

[closetohumping 17442]

7 hours ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

A: Texas, OU, A&M, Mizzou

B: Bama, Auburn, UGA, Florida 

C : LSU, Arky, Ole Miss, Miss St

D : Tenn, Vandy, Kentucky, Scar

 

I honestly don’t see any other way this shakes out if they go 4x4. Bama-Aub, UGA-Aub, & UGA-Fla are too big for the SEC to end. Arky & LSU I think have to be together to give LSU a rival. This makes the most sense

C and D are dogshit.  No chance

[HookEm 2467]

A : Texas, LSU, Aggy, Arky

B : OU, Tenn, Mizzou, Vandy

C : Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St

D : Florida, UGA, SC, UK

One permanent rival in each other pod including:  UT vs OU, Tenn vs Bama, LSU vs Bama, Tenn vs Florida, Auburn vs UGA.  
 

There are two historic elite teams per pod and they in regional close proximity.  All rivalries are maintained and the pods are reasonably balanced.

[maninblack 7974]

3 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

The two division system mean you’re playing the other division teams once every 4 years. 

Pods system you play everyone every 2 years

why would anyone choose the divisions? 

Olds

[closetohumping 17442]

57 minutes ago, HookEm said:

 

A : Texas, LSU, Aggy, Arky

B : OU, Tenn, Mizzou, Vandy

C : Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St

D : Florida, UGA, SC, UK

One permanent rival in each other pod including:  UT vs OU, Tenn vs Bama, LSU vs Bama, Tenn vs Florida, Auburn vs UGA.  
 

There are two historic elite teams per pod and they in regional close proximity.  All rivalries are maintained and the pods are reasonably balanced.

Repping to get you to 667. Your pod hands ou A shot at the final four every year.  Here’s the winning nsiap 

[TonyTexas 10514]

Why couldn’t they incorporate some iteration of the NFL scheduling model? You play everyone in your pod and another pod which rotates by year.  Then have 1 game against each of the other pods and those matchups are determined by where you finished in your pod the  year before. #1 vs #1, # 4 vs #4. The biggest drawback would be how to handle out of pod rivalry games. 

Edited July 24, 2021 by TonyTexas

[mdmost 43001]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

Why couldn’t they incorporate some iteration of the NFL scheduling model? You play everyone in your pod and another pod which rotates by year.  Then have 1 game against each of the other pods and those matchups are determined by where you finished in your pod the  year before. #1 vs #1, # 4 vs #4. The biggest drawback would be how to handle out of pod rivalry games. 

The SEC likes to do long term planning. They've already got the SEC schedule planned through 2026 I believe. That would be a bit of a logistical beating and I'd imagine there would be cries of unfairness if scheduling for one was not as favorable to another, like aggy getting Florida off a game with OU. 

I do like the set pod against pod idea. Then you know you're going to play Florida, Georgia, Vandy, and Kentucky one year and then the Bama/Auburn wing the next. 

Edited July 24, 2021 by mdmost

[Neonmoon 38129]

17 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Repping to get you to 667. Your pod hands ou A shot at the final four every year.  Here’s the winning nsiap 

This is the easiest, simplest, and best solution. I don’t see why people keep trying to make it more complicated. 

[HookEm 2467]

Agreed.  I like what they came up with. I'm happy I got at least 1 pod right.

Also it makes sense for them to split up UT and Aggy so that teams get more shots at playing in Texas.  The pods also look reasonably balanced.

[alphahorn 1637]

22 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The SEC Network didn't put this on one of their shows without some reasoning behind it. I think it'll look exactly like this: 

This is it.  I'm fine with this, it's the only equitable distribution

[alphahorn 1637]

except aggie gets off pretty easy in that pod.

[Revolution512 1487]

2 minutes ago, alphahorn said:

except aggie gets off pretty easy in that pod.

And we don’t? A neutral site against the toughest opponent. The other two programs are beyond mediocre

[alphahorn 1637]

7 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

And we don’t? A neutral site against the toughest opponent. The other two programs are beyond mediocre

Like I said, I think it is the most equitable possible solution.  LSU for the moment is looking like it's cycling down

[DFW Horn 6124]

7 minutes ago, alphahorn said:

Like I said, I think it is the most equitable possible solution.  LSU for the moment is looking like it's cycling down

LSU should embrace not having to play Bama and Florida every year. 

[alphahorn 1637]

1 minute ago, DFW Horn said:

LSU should embrace not having to play Bama and Florida every year. 

they will and in a way they deserve it after getting shafted for so many years in the sec relative to bama

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

If it goes to pod system would the west pod still be toughest root tootenest football pod outside of the nfl?

[Neonmoon 38129]

4 minutes ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

If it goes to pod system would the west pod still be toughest root tootenest football pod outside of the nfl?

They’re all kind of relatively equal. 

Edited July 24, 2021 by Neonmoon

[RollLeft 5045]

 

A : Texas, Aggy, Arky, Tenn

B : OU, LSU, Mizzou, Vandy

C : Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St

D : Florida, UGA, SC, UK

or

A : Texas, Aggy, Arky, Ole Miss

B : OU, LSU, Mizzou, Miss St.

C : Bama, Auburn, Tenn, UK

D : Florida, UGA, SC, Vandy

 

Edited July 24, 2021 by RollLeft

[dcar00 14210]

11 hours ago, drifter379 said:

Fuck a bunch of pods. 

this really is the most fair from a competitive standpoint.  not really a fan of pods. yeah you only get Bama twice in 8 years but you still have years where you get one or 2 of Fla/Ga/Aub

[DFW Horn 6124]

Just now, dcar00 said:

this really is the most fair from a competitive standpoint.  not really a fan of pods. yeah you only get Bama twice in 8 years but you still have years where you get one or 2 of Fla/Ga/Aub

We'd get Bama twice every 4 years with a 9-game SEC schedule.

[David Dennison 18860]

Any pod system that doesn't include a Texas, OU, Arkansas, aggy pod is terrible.

[dcar00 14210]

1 hour ago, alphahorn said:

This is it.  I'm fine with this, it's the only equitable distribution

yeah that is probably as close as it is going to get.  bama gets the auto win with Vandy.  be nice if Tenn didn't suck ass.

[dcar00 14210]

3 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

We'd get Bama twice every 4 years with a 9-game SEC schedule.

in the 2 8 team divisions scenario?

[dcar00 14210]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Any pod system that doesn't include a Texas, OU, Arkansas, aggy pod is terrible.

the problem is you leave at least one pod that is very unbalanced(at least using historical program power numbers)

[Telegraph_it 3357]

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Any pod system that doesn't include a Texas, OU, Arkansas, aggy pod is terrible.

This. It’s not difficult. 

[DFW Horn 6124]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

in the 2 8 team divisions scenario?

No, in the 4-team pods proposal. I overlooked you were talking about divisions. My mistake.

[Telegraph_it 3357]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

the problem is you leave at least one pod that is very unbalanced(at least using historical program power numbers)

Aggy will revert to the mean. 

[David Dennison 18860]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

the problem is you leave at least one pod that is very unbalanced(at least using historical program power numbers)

It don't make a shit.

Edited July 24, 2021 by David Dennison

[utee94 15823]

32 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

You look like a dunce every time you use USNWR rankings. Nobody takes those rankings seriously in terms of actual academic and research standing. All you have to do is read the methodology.

Just helping out. 

Yeah you beat me to it.  USNWR rankings have always been completely irrelevant, based on their methodology alone.

[Lowcountry Hog 266]

59 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Any pod system that doesn't include a Texas, OU, Arkansas, aggy pod is terrible.

[mdmost 43001]

The rare quad post. Nice job, roothog. And agreed. However, I still think aggy gets paired up with LSU.

[DFW Horn 6124]

4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The rare quad post. Nice job, roothog. And agreed. However, I still think aggy gets paired up with LSU.

aggy looks down on Arky, LSU looks down at aggy

What is the true rivalry game, anyway?

[maninblack 7974]

If A&M isn't in the pod with Texas and the SEC doesn't take advantage of reigniting the annual Thanksgiving game they've missed a huge opportunity. Aggy won't live it down either because the perception will be they whined their way out of being in our pod and are ducking us. 

Edited July 24, 2021 by maninblack

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

22 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

aggy looks down on Arky, LSU looks down at aggy

What is the true rivalry game, anyway?

For a looooooong time for us it was ou then arky then aggy. 80s aggy cheating/beating us and arky leaving early 90s changed that but I’d just as soon slot pig back in their traditional spot.