New SEC divisions and pods thread (Page 30 starts recent discussion)

[DFW Horn 6124]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

So dumb but completely unsurprising 

 

SEC won't maximize their TV contracts with an 8-game league schedule.

I just see posturing and horse trading behind the scenes. I'm confident Sankey will get it worked out. Money talks, BS walks

[closetojumping 62746]

20 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

We will fucking riot if it's an 8 game trash schedule.  JFC this is the easiest decision ever.

 

15 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

SEC won't maximize their TV contracts with an 8-game league schedule.

I just see posturing and horse trading behind the scenes. I'm confident Sankey will get it worked out. Money talks, BS walks

I agree with both of these posts. I'll fucking vomit if we get handed an 8 game schedule because of a bunch of mouthbreathing jellyfish can't muster the courage to play 9 conference games every year. As well, this looks like posturing and logic and $$ will win out in the end.

[TrashMaster G 17563]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

So dumb but completely unsurprising 

 

PUSSIES!!!!!

[Pato del Muerto 52524]

1 hour ago, gatormarc said:

Of course doing that would mean we are scheduling 12, 11, and 12 P5 teams those seasons.

Does the sec play big boy football or not?  Or, cancel the p5 games. Sec has shown that it has no problem scheduling September conference games to accommodate the November fcs game. 

[Scholz 11944]

8 games is more than enough. SEC is such a grind every week. The SOS will be plenty tough.

Am I doing this right?

[gatormarc 911]

16 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Does the sec play big boy football or not?  Or, cancel the p5 games. Sec has shown that it has no problem scheduling September conference games to accommodate the November fcs game. 

I don't think anyone has ever seriously accused Florida of playing a weak schedule.

During our 3 national title runs, we had the #1 or #2 rated schedule those years.

Last year sucked for us, but we also faced 3 Top 10 and 4 other top 25 teams.

Edited May 26, 2023 by gatormarc

[DFW Horn 6124]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I agree with both of these posts. I'll fucking vomit if we get handed an 8 game schedule because of a bunch of mouthbreathing jellyfish can't muster the courage to play 9 conference games every year. As well, this looks like posturing and logic and $$ will win out in the end.

An 8-game SEC schedule makes zero sense with an expanded, 12-team CFB playoff.

[Don Johnson 4754]

4 hours ago, Js1 said:

And how many of those 38 are November FCS stat padding and rest games? 35?

3

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

After the addition of UT and OU, the SEC is going to be so tough that it should probably drop down to a 7 game conference schedule

[Scholz 11944]

1 hour ago, gatormarc said:

Last year sucked for us, but we also faced 3 Top 10 and 4 other top 25 teams.

When you played them?

[BigHorn'13 3369]

12 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

3

Better yet, how many FCS games are scheduled? Without looking it up, I'm almost certain each team could drop that game each year and there wouldn't be a problem playing 9 conference games. 

[gatormarc 911]

40 minutes ago, Scholz said:

When you played them?

Final AP poll.

1) Georgia (63)
6) Tennessee
10) Utah
11) Florida State
16) LSU
17) Oregon State
23) South Carolina

[Mitch Cumsteen 18550]

Under normal circumstances, I would just assume this is a negotiating tactic to squeeze more cash out of the mouse. But these rednecks fucks have been manipulating the schedule to their advantage for so long that they may not know any better.

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

Arkansas, Kentucky, Mississippi State and South Carolina oppose 9 teams

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

7 hours ago, mdmost said:

So dumb but completely unsurprising 

 

Bama wants to flip LSU for the widely assumed MS State in the their permanent 3. Just f***ing give it to them. They already control the conference. No reason to drag this shit out. Get Bama rowing in the 9 game direction and the rest will follow suit. 

[markstanco 12577]

8 conference games has worked out so well for all these years, if tv money doesn’t boost something large, there is really no reason to go to 9 and possibly lose a team or 2 to the playoffs.

Personally I want 9. Playing ball state in November with single game tickets for $35 isn’t something I would travel for.

[GTNY 284]

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

8 conference games has worked out so well for all these years, if tv money doesn’t boost something large, there is really no reason to go to 9 and possibly lose a team or 2 to the playoffs.

Personally I want 9. Playing ball state in November with single game tickets for $35 isn’t something I would travel for.

Would you trade that ball state game for a playoff appearance? I would, and until the rest of CFB stops rewarding the SEC for doing it, I think it’s smart. 

[Laga4 1270]

6 hours ago, GTNY said:

Would you trade that ball state game for a playoff appearance? I would, and until the rest of CFB stops rewarding the SEC for doing it, I think it’s smart. 

Are you saying teams are more likely to get in the Playoffs by dropping the FCS game and adding a conference game?

Edited May 27, 2023 by Laga4

[Scholz 11944]

You know aggy is pulling for 8. 

A) it’s why their record looks semi-decent 

B) those pussies wouldn’t have to play us every year. Our 1 permanent would be blowu and the other 7 would rotate.

[Pato del Muerto 52524]

3 hours ago, Laga4 said:

Are you saying teams are more likely to get in the Playoffs by dropping the FCS game and adding a conference game?

He’s saying the opposite. That having ball state in November makes it more likely that your team makes the playoff. 

[msucolt45 4063]

Imagine having to play every conference member, (B12) currently does. It’s been at least a decade of the SEC’s November rest and relaxation during a week in November, where they schedule a patsy, while other conferences are playing head to head. No more!!! TV $$$ should dictate that.

Adding Texas and OU Sucks should put an end to that crap, even though my Alma Mater (McNeese) benefits from the November “money grab” week that the SEC currently schedules.

A nine game conference schedule will help rotate the home and home schedules of cross-divisional games.

Hook’em!!!

[msucolt45 4063]

The fact that aggy has only played Georgia once, since SEC membership is asinine!!!

Hook’em!!!

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

39 minutes ago, Scholz said:

You know aggy is pulling for 8. 

A) it’s why their record looks semi-decent 

B) those pussies wouldn’t have to play us every year. Our 1 permanent would be blowu and the other 7 would rotate.

A) Yes absolutely 

B) Probably not. Brent Z has consistently said aggy is playing Texas on Thanksgiving. 

 

I'm not sure on how scheduling will shake out, but we're playing OU and aggy every year. 

piggy desperately wants another game in Texas, and they hate us more than they love themselves, so I'm sure they're lobbying for a permanent game against us.

He's a member of the Pravada, but here goes : https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/college/article/sec-football-texas-a-m-lsu-prefer-nine-game-18097730.php

Edited May 27, 2023 by billfromlaketravis

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

Pretty good article on where things currently sit. Bama, of course, setting themselves up to be the swing vote. 

https://247sports.com/Article/SEC-football-schedule-model-nine-games-eight-games-spring-meetings-210765203/

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

10 hours ago, GTNY said:

Would you trade that ball state game for a playoff appearance? I would, and until the rest of CFB stops rewarding the SEC for doing it, I think it’s smart. 

If you have to rely on playing Ball State to get into the playoffs, then fuck you, you don't deserve to be in the playoffs.  Playing Ball State should automatically remove you from consideration for any postseason games, be they playoff or bowl games.

[Hurtlocker 2213]

On 5/26/2023 at 10:50 AM, mdmost said:

So dumb but completely unsurprising 

 

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

I wish we had some Bama grads on here. I believe the Tennessee game is sacrosanct. The Third Saturday in October. I think they eventually go to 9 to protect that game. 

Also Auburn losing the Georgia game would be a gut shot to their fanbase, and recruiting footprint. 

[DFW Horn 6124]

46 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

If you have to rely on playing Ball State to get into the playoffs, then fuck you, you don't deserve to be in the playoffs.  Playing Ball State should automatically remove you from consideration for any postseason games, be they playoff or bowl games.

There should be even more emphasis on SOS with a 12-game playoff to justify your spot.

But, most sportswriters are either dumb and/or lazy. Just buy into the ESPN hype.

[LonghornSean 4008]

Another factor working against nine games is ESPN may be reluctant to agree to an increased annual payout for the added inventory.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

More SEC conference games would result in fewer SEC games to broadcast.  Losing a round of nonconference games would be 14 fewer games involving SEC teams and adding a round of conference games would only add back 7 games involving SEC teams.

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

19 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

Another factor working against nine games is ESPN may be reluctant to agree to an increased annual payout for the added inventory.

Probably this. I can’t think of any media company with tons of cash on hand right now. Disney + should have fought tooth and nail to keep Indian Cricket. 
 

I wish ESPN negotiated 9 games when they signed the SEC deal. 

[LonghornSean 4008]

1 hour ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

More SEC conference games would result in fewer SEC games to broadcast.  Losing a round of nonconference games would be 14 fewer games involving SEC teams and adding a round of conference games would only add back 7 games involving SEC teams.

Fair point, but a few of those non-conference games may be on the road and not belong to ESPN, and many of the home ones will be against Sisters of the Poor, and therefore less valuable than SEC conference matchups.

[Saint Austin 745]

Even if a majority bitch out and request eight conference games in ‘24, can we revote when we’re official members and put our weight behind nine games?

[Beau Vine 54254]

Perhaps we should go to zero conference games.  I mean, every conference game will be soooo hard.  Won't someone think of the kids?

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

If it’s 8 and Texas is already set for 9, that is really going to screw things up. I’d imagine we’d have to schedule Big 12 teams to get more P5 opponents on the OOC schedule. Suboptimal. 
 

Big 12 teams I  don’t have a problem with: 

- WVU

- Iowa State (despite Surly posters)

- K State

- I guess Kansas. Hate them in hoops though

- TCU sans Fat Gare

Edited May 28, 2023 by billfromlaketravis

[gatormarc 911]

37 minutes ago, Saint Austin said:

Even if a majority bitch out and request eight conference games in ‘24, can we revote when we’re official members and put our weight behind nine games?

Sankey really wants 9.

It wouldn't surprise me that if he can't get the vote, he kicks it down the road again until after this season or settles for a 2 year temporary 8-game schedule and tries again after OUT is in the league.

[WBT 20615]

Stop trying to make OUT happen

[TKthunder2 4992]

3 minutes ago, gatormarc said:

Sankey really wants 9.

It wouldn't surprise me that if he can't get the vote, he kicks it down the road again until after this season or settles for a 2 year temporary 8-game schedule and tries again after OUT is in the league.

Texas and Oklahoma are going to vote for 9 games due to the game in Dallas. They did not sign up for playing more G5/FCS teams at DKR/Gaylord.

I assume they’ll use that tactic if it come to it: “Look you’re just going to get outvoted when UT/OU join and look like pussies and make the conference look weak and indecisive if you vote for 8.”

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

13 minutes ago, gatormarc said:

Sankey really wants 9.

It wouldn't surprise me that if he can't get the vote, he kicks it down the road again until after this season or settles for a 2 year temporary 8-game schedule and tries again after OUT is in the league.

I worry about the precedent if we go with 8 from the jump. Good luck clawing back bowl eligibility from South Carolina, Kentucky, piggy, aggy, and MS State. 

Edited May 28, 2023 by billfromlaketravis

[gatormarc 911]

22 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I worry about the precedent if we go with 8 from the jump. Good luck clawing back bowl eligibility from South Carolina, Kentucky, piggy, aggy, and MS State. 

A&M supports the 9 game format. It's the only way they get the annual game back with UTx, and despite the 100 year decision talk, they want that game again. 

I'm not that worried about UK. From what I've ready, they just want the hard P5 requirement dropped so they can dump Louisville if the SEC goes to 9. I think the SEC drops it or turns it into a suggestion like the B1G has, and they get UTn, UGA, or UF as one of their 3, they'll vote for 9.

South Carolina will not drop Clemson so they won't be as easy to win over.

Auburn and Bama both really prefer 9, imo. They both just want more say in who the 3rd program is going to be (after UTn and AU for Bama; and UGA and Bama for AU).

If I had to guess, I think Tennessee might be on the flip side of the coin. Both Vandy and Kentucky consider them their top in-conference rival. I bet they'd prefer to have both as permanent rivals. For them, 1-7 works if they think they get Bama, if they are told that Auburn gets Bama, they probably vote 9.

 

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

14 minutes ago, gatormarc said:

A&M supports the 9 game format. It's the only way they get the annual game back with UTx, and despite the 100 year decision talk, they want that game again. 

I'm not that worried about UK. From what I've ready, they just want the hard P5 requirement dropped so they can dump Louisville if the SEC goes to 9. I think the SEC drops it or turns it into a suggestion like the B1G has, and they get UTn, UGA, or UF as one of their 3, they'll vote for 9.

South Carolina will not drop Clemson so they won't be as easy to win over.

Auburn and Bama both really prefer 9, imo. They both just want more say in who the 3rd program is going to be (after UTn and AU for Bama; and UGA and Bama for AU).

If I had to guess, I think Tennessee might be on the flip side of the coin. Both Vandy and Kentucky consider them their top in-conference rival. I bet they'd prefer to have both as permanent rivals. For them, 1-7 works if they think they get Bama, if they are told that Auburn gets Bama, they probably vote 9.

 

You must be new here. 

aggy would blood sacrifice Johnny Manziel to wiggle out of that game. 

[TrashMaster G 17563]

On 5/26/2023 at 5:02 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

Arkansas, Kentucky, Mississippi State and South Carolina oppose 9 teams

The Loser Crew

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

4 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

The Loser Crew

South Carolina under Beamer wakes up talking shit. Step up to the big leagues fellas. 

[Vertigo 20290]

1 hour ago, gatormarc said:

A&M supports the 9 game format. It's the only way they get the annual game back with UTx, and despite the 100 year decision talk, they want that game again. 

I'm not that worried about UK. From what I've ready, they just want the hard P5 requirement dropped so they can dump Louisville if the SEC goes to 9. I think the SEC drops it or turns it into a suggestion like the B1G has, and they get UTn, UGA, or UF as one of their 3, they'll vote for 9.

South Carolina will not drop Clemson so they won't be as easy to win over.

Auburn and Bama both really prefer 9, imo. They both just want more say in who the 3rd program is going to be (after UTn and AU for Bama; and UGA and Bama for AU).

If I had to guess, I think Tennessee might be on the flip side of the coin. Both Vandy and Kentucky consider them their top in-conference rival. I bet they'd prefer to have both as permanent rivals. For them, 1-7 works if they think they get Bama, if they are told that Auburn gets Bama, they probably vote 9.

 

If I am thinking about this strictly from a business perspective, I would hold the 9th conference game for the next media negotiation as a bargaining chip. If ESPN doesn't want to pay more for it, you could get a second partner for more revenue on that extra game. 

[Huckleberry 32997]

2 hours ago, WBT said:

Stop trying to make OUT happen

It's about to be an auto-neg.

[TKthunder2 4992]

1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

If I am thinking about this strictly from a business perspective, I would hold the 9th conference game for the next media negotiation as a bargaining chip. If ESPN doesn't want to pay more for it, you could get a second partner for more revenue on that extra game. 

What do you think is about to happen when UT/OU join? They will be renegotiating.

[Underdog 28711]

9 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

The Loser Crew

 

[John80 157]

The UK Louisville football series has never benefitted UK and was started by a basketball coach athletics director that didn't care about building a football program. There's very little in state football talent and no one outside the state cares about the game.

[TKthunder2 4992]

6 hours ago, John80 said:

The UK Louisville football series has never benefitted UK and was started by a basketball coach athletics director that didn't care about building a football program. There's very little in state football talent and no one outside the state cares about the game.

Why does this matter? Is recently top 10 ranked Kentucky football program that big of a bitch they can’t play a single P5 school each year? For fuck’s sake dump Louisville and schedule Illinois, Indiana, Wake Forest, Duke, Rutgers, Kansas, and Arizona. UK with SEC money out the ass, is playing games AT Toledo and AT Akron…they should be ridiculed to no end.

2023

09/02 - Ball State

09/09 - Eastern Kentucky

09/16 - Akron

11/25 - at Louisville

2024

08/31 - at Akron

09/21 - Ohio

11/16 - Murray State

11/30 - Louisville

2025

08/30 - Toledo

09/13 - Eastern Michigan

11/15 - Tennessee Tech

11/29 - at Louisville

2026

09/05 - Akron

09/19 - Youngstown State

09/26 - South Alabama

11/28 - Louisville

2027

09/04 - Toledo

09/18 - Murray State

09/25 - Ball State

11/27 - at Louisville

2028

09/02 - at Toledo

09/09 - Kent State

09/30 - Eastern Illinois

11/25 - Louisville

2029

09/01 - Georgia Southern

11/24 - at Louisville

[WBT 20615]

2 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

Why does this matter? Is recently top 10 ranked Kentucky football program that big of a bitch they can’t play a single P5 school each year? For fuck’s sake dump Louisville and schedule Illinois, Indiana, Wake Forest, Duke, Rutgers, Kansas, and Arizona. UK with SEC money out the ass, is playing games AT Toledo and AT Akron…they should be ridiculed to no end.

2023

09/02 - Ball State

09/09 - Eastern Kentucky

09/16 - Akron

11/25 - at Louisville

2024

08/31 - at Akron

09/21 - Ohio

11/16 - Murray State

11/30 - Louisville

2025

08/30 - Toledo

09/13 - Eastern Michigan

11/15 - Tennessee Tech

11/29 - at Louisville

2026

09/05 - Akron

09/19 - Youngstown State

09/26 - South Alabama

11/28 - Louisville

2027

09/04 - Toledo

09/18 - Murray State

09/25 - Ball State

11/27 - at Louisville

2028

09/02 - at Toledo

09/09 - Kent State

09/30 - Eastern Illinois

11/25 - Louisville

2029

09/01 - Georgia Southern

11/24 - at Louisville

but SEC?