Senate Dems propose requiring women to register for military draft

[lmao 178]

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/19/senate-democrats-propose-women-military-drafts-500153

 

[tx 3 putt 76399]

yes, it's long past due

[RexWilson 1341]

[0xdeadbeef 1626]

13 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

[Willfully Horn 7916]

Two daughters. I voted no. 

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

29 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Two daughters. I voted no. 

If my sons can go then your daughters can too. 

[formermav43 4599]

No one should have to register for the draft.

But if you’re going to require it of men, then it should be required of women too.

[Willfully Horn 7916]

9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If my sons can go then your daughters can too. 

I cannot disagree. But, I won’t vote in favor of  it.

[washparkhorn 9935]

Thank goodness our all-volunteer military performs quite effectively. Let's keep it that way. 

I am proud of those who served - drafted or volunteer. Thank you.

[Underdog 28457]

Have Tucker lead the way. 

[tigol 2383]

8 hours ago, formermav43 said:

No one should have to register for the draft.

But if you’re going to require it of men, then it should be required of women too.

This sums it up.

[lemonlime 5503]

9 hours ago, formermav43 said:

No one should have to register for the draft.

But if you’re going to require it of men, then it should be required of women too.

Agreed.  But we need to also stop foreign misadventures.  If the civilian leadership is going to decide to invade countries based on lies (WMD in Iraq), there should be some skin in the game from more than military families who all volunteered for this.

[Fudge Nuggets 19151]

I like the idea of any draft-eligible aged children, grand children, great grand children of congress critters voting in favor of military action getting packed off to the front lines.  The biggest problem is this will not deter republicans from exercising recklessness on their votes.  They much prefer those Lockheed-Martin campaign contributions over the safety of their own offspring.

[Neonmoon 38127]

9 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

I cannot disagree. But, I won’t vote in favor of  it.

Rules for thee, not for me?

[Js1 85110]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Rules for thee, not for me?

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2059]

I feel like there should be some unequal way of drawing.  Like, everyone registers, but only pull women’s numbers if we really really need them. 

[Surly Bevo 24696]

Oh how politician.  Let's expend political capital and time promoting and arguing about a process issue where the true end result is likely something we would never actually have the need (wars are getting fought much differently now) or political will/agreement to actually institute.  

[Willfully Horn 7916]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Rules for thee, not for me?

I can see your point. But, ask yourself this: IF, in order to be registered for the draft, each individual’s parent had to agree, would you do so?

I can imagine some folks would, but I would not. Otoh, if either daughter convinced me she wanted to enlist, I would support her decision.

When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour, everyone wanted to enlist. When we fought in Vietnam, there was a different dynamic. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19093]

I don't have an issue with this. I prefer the all volunteer army, but everyone who is able to serve should have to sign up for the draft.

[hobbes2702 12846]

11 hours ago, formermav43 said:

No one should have to register for the draft.

But if you’re going to require it of men, then it should be required of women too.

This is the missing answer from the poll

[Neonmoon 38127]

16 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I can see your point. But, ask yourself this: IF, in order to be registered for the draft, each individual’s parent had to agree, would you do so?

I can imagine some folks would, but I would not. Otoh, if either daughter convinced me she wanted to enlist, I would support her decision.

When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour, everyone wanted to enlist. When we fought in Vietnam, there was a different dynamic. 

Yes, I would. But it doesn’t matter because it’s not required. It’s not required because every parent thinks their child is special and should get special treatment. Hence why a draft is needed. No special rules. No special treatment. Everyone’s name goes in a hat, men and women, the people selected have to go. 

 

 

[Willfully Horn 7916]

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

Yes, I would.

Good for you. I would not.

How many kids do you have?

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20344]

No, because nobody should have to register for the draft.

[berlinerbaer 670]

1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

No, because nobody should have to register for the draft.

Yes, because nobody should have to register for the draft.

The more people who have their skin in the game, the less popular and therefore less likely it comes to pass. 

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

Yeah is this just a way to get around to eliminating selective service?

[Chooky 13302]

This bill is red meat to let everyone know that the democrats aren't up there just fingering each other in the navel and playing grab ass.

[SKJ 1305]

On 7/24/2021 at 8:15 AM, Fudge Nuggets said:

I like the idea of any draft-eligible aged children, grand children, great grand children of congress critters voting in favor of military action getting packed off to the front lines.  The biggest problem is this will not deter republicans from exercising recklessness on their votes.  They much prefer those Lockheed-Martin campaign contributions over the safety of their own offspring.

Ha ha ha like they'd ever enforce the draft for their own kids

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

8 hours ago, SKJ said:

Ha ha ha like they'd ever enforce the draft for their own kids

It’s well known that bone Spurs occur more frequently in the wealthy.  

[Neonmoon 38127]

Nm

Edited July 26, 2021 by Neonmoon

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On 7/23/2021 at 11:03 PM, Willfully Horn said:

Two daughters. I voted no. 

I have two sons.  I voted yes.

 

Either citizens are equal or we aren't.  and FTR, I don't favor reinstating the draft either, but if the country is in a bad spot, it should be all hands on deck.

Edited July 26, 2021 by slorch

[Longhorn_Fan68 33843]

equal pay, equal rights, all that.

[Asithappens 974]

On 7/24/2021 at 10:43 AM, Willfully Horn said:

I can see your point. But, ask yourself this: IF, in order to be registered for the draft, each individual’s parent had to agree, would you do so?

 

I may be taking this comment out of context, but what kind of fucked up policy would that be? A nation cannot go to war unless the parents agree? Both parents? 

So a nation could be held hostage to mothers who don't want their children to go to war? 

That would be fine if everybody did that. 

[TwiceHorn 31283]

Here's the thing about the draft, at least as regards past wars.

You could sit around waiting to see if the lottery would hit your number and then be stuck as MOS 11 in the Big Green Machine.

Or, you could volunteer in a branch of your choosing, with some degree of control over your MOS and make your military service more possibly personally useful or fulfilling, as well as still serving a vital role in the war effort.

Also, I think the act of registering for the draft is somewhat sobering for a lot of callow youth.  Even if it never comes to pass, as it did not in my case, it reminds you of the cost of whatever it is we have here.

Edited July 26, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[Willfully Horn 7916]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

I have two sons.  I voted yes.

 

Either citizens are equal or we aren't.  and FTR, I don't favor reinstating the draft either, but if the country is in a bad spot, it should be all hands on deck.

I spoke to all your points up thread., We  agree.

[Willfully Horn 7916]

36 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

I may be taking this comment out of context, but what kind of fucked up policy would that be? A nation cannot go to war unless the parents agree? Both parents? 

So a nation could be held hostage to mothers who don't want their children to go to war? 

That would be fine if everybody did that. 

It was not a stab at making policy, but at explaining why I voted the way I did.

[RDCanecutter 26282]

No, because the draft serves no purpose for men either.

[tantric superman 4667]

We need an elite commando unit made up entirely of bull dykes.

I always laugh when someone says bull dykes.  Some words are just funny.