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Just now, hobbes2702 said:

Blaming officials in a 30 point loss is embarrassing.

The refs impacted the game just like they do most games now. Not seeing that is either playing dumb or worse actually being dumb. When GSW went aggressive on defense, the refs clearly let it play out without pulling their whistles out. There were also some ticky tack fouls called on the Rockets on subsequent plays to GSW bulldozing them on the other end. The Rockets then let it get in their heads and spent more time complaining and throwing their hands up then playing defense on the other end.

However, the turnovers were a bigger impact. Houston should have been up by more in the 1Q but they just kept giving the ball away. Then as it got later they upped the turnover game and also started slinging air balls all over the place. 

As someone that isn’t a fan of either team, the Rockets are clearly the mentally weak team. They let the refs and GSW get in their heads and let Klay kick them square in the nuts.

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8 minutes ago, Brew said:

The refs impacted the game just like they do most games now. Not seeing that is either playing dumb or worse actually being dumb. When GSW went aggressive on defense, the refs clearly let it play out without pulling their whistles out. There were also some ticky tack fouls called on the Rockets on subsequent plays to GSW bulldozing them on the other end. The Rockets then let it get in their heads and spent more time complaining and throwing their hands up then playing defense on the other end.

However, the turnovers were a bigger impact. Houston should have been up by more in the 1Q but they just kept giving the ball away. Then as it got later they upped the turnover game and also started slinging air balls all over the place. 

As someone that isn’t a fan of either team, the Rockets are clearly the mentally weak team. They let the refs and GSW get in their heads and let Klay kick them square in the nuts.

The officials impact every game for both sides. That’s how it works. My issue is the making of excuses and blaming officials when it was a 30 point game. The rockets got beat by the Splash brothers not the officials 

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5 hours ago, Thatguy said:

  What he is saying is when a team ramps up their aggressiveness and the Refs swallow their whistles that is what starts the avalanche that happened last night. Just he didn't articulate it well. He is correct to a extent. A team shouldn't be able to get ultra aggressive defensively and not have the number of personal fouls go up as well, yet it happens time and time again in the NBA. Watching the game last night it was clear that GSW ramped up their defensive intensity in that 2nd qtr. However, GSW had 3 personal fouls in the 2nd qtr, the same amount they had in the first. Meanwhile Houston had 9 called in the first half. You can say it happens because a team plays at home, is the more desperate team so they play better, or whatever else. It does happen, and it seems to consistently happen in situations where a team like GSW is down in a series. Regardless, calls change how people play.

harden has been the largest beneficiary of the refereeing for the y ear ,and now its the refs fault they are losing...

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The arguments around here lately are frustrating to read.

 

What people say: “The refs did not lose the game for the Rockets.”

What the opposing side hears: “The refs didn’t impact the game.”

Nobody is saying that. We are responding to the idea that the refs decided the game. 

Same as the LeBron stuff. People are literally arguing that he’s *runner-up for greatest player of all time* and being met with, “If you don’t think LeBron is great then you’re just a hater.”  

 

 

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35 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

harden has been the largest beneficiary of the refereeing for the y ear ,and now its the refs fault they are losing...

This is true.  Harden in general gets a HUGE benefit of the doubt when it comes to officiating.  He could be called for n offensive foul oor a travel on at least 50% of his drives.  He's rarely called for either

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12 minutes ago, d2o said:

This is true.  Harden in general gets a HUGE benefit of the doubt when it comes to officiating.  He could be called for n offensive foul oor a travel on at least 50% of his drives.  He's rarely called for either

Yea I thought shoving a guy with your forearm was a foul.  Actually a game or two ago he forearms his defender like three times, ref calls it, harden looks shocked.  

But we could pick out anecdotes like that all day long for most all stars.

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3 hours ago, Orca of Peace said:

Rox ran out of gas , missing the CP3 boost. Same will happen tomorrow.  As we know, it takes a team of superstars to beat GS. 

 

btw, do you think these rox are more talented tahn 1995? Or 1994 without clyde?

1994-'95 was a better all around squad, this current roster of Rockets can still win if they can shut down 2 of the 4 all stars, (KD & Thompson) on the Warriors for just this one game...

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On 5/26/2018 at 9:01 AM, Goo Punch said:

Golden State should romp tonight, but you never seem to know until it happens. I think CP3 is done for this series, but I still say it goes 7 games and that the final game is a very very close one. Throwing some shit at the wall:

 

Tonight: GS 115 - HOU 98

Monday: HOU 106 - GS 104

Got the GS correct. Was want off on Houston. And after a 39 point 1Q. We’ll see what happens on Monday. 

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I’m not blaming the refs, that was a locked in warriors squad playing a elimination game at home. I expected that and only thing that makes it frustrating was the rockets getting up by 17 in the first and teasing the fuck out of this fan base only to fall apart down the stretch. I think tonight will be closer because it’s at home but I don’t think the rockets win.

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58 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

 

Damn. If the Warriors lose this series, Kerr's always going to remember having starters in with 7 minutes to go in Game 3 up by 25.

This series is most likely already over if Iggy doesn't go down. But that's what happens when you lean so heavily on a 34 year old with bad knees and haven't developed a bench good enough to be trusted with a 20 point lead.

Now, a Game 7 may hinge on Bell and Looney, a rookie, and a guy whose dirt cheap option for next year they didn't pick up because they didn't want him any longer.

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35 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Damn. If the Warriors lose this series, Kerr's always going to remember having starters in with 7 minutes to go in Game 3 up by 25.

This series is most likely already over if Iggy doesn't go down. But that's what happens when you lean so heavily on a 34 year old with bad knees and haven't developed a bench good enough to be trusted with a 20 point lead.

Now, a Game 7 might hinge on Bell and Looney, a rookie, and a guy who's dirt cheap option for next year they didn't pick up because they didn't want him any longer.

I don't want to belabor the point, but if they lose, maybe they'll consider how poorly they constructed the playoff roster with 6 PF/C's on the roster..... Yea, none of the "experts" have really said much about it.

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59 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I don't want to belabor the point, but if they lose, maybe they'll consider how poorly they constructed the playoff roster with 6 PF/C's on the roster..... Yea, none of the "experts" have really said much about it.

No shit. For a team that was an early adopter of the “positionless” basketball and switching everything you would think they would have understood the need for more wings and fewer bigs

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I think they were 100% convinced that Casspi would be such a perfect fit into their rotation that it gave them the confidence [read: arrogance] to then take a flyer on a reclamation project like Young. They stupidly let the players talk them into his signing.

On paper, Casspi should have been ideal. He's got a high basketball IQ, shoots from 30 feet, passes, screens, cuts, and is taller than 6'6"; he was a Warrior before he was a Warrior. Good things tended to happen when he was in the game (which was rare) this season...but he was so damn timid shooting the basketball. He only attempted 1.1 three per 36 minutes--almost four times fewer than his career average--despite making 46% of them.

Marcus Thornton, who's as embedded with the Warriors as anyone, said that Omri never had the confidence to let it fly, knowing that every miss is a shot that one of the 3 greatest shooters of all time didn't get to take.

It takes a special breed to still take your shots with supreme confidence surrounded by Golden State's talent...a breed that is supremely difficult to find for a minimum salary. An MLE, on the other hand...

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Still, waiving Casspi when they knew that McCaw wouldn't be back in time to help them--and knowing full damn well all year that ZaZa and JaVale would never leave the bench against Houston--was extremely short-sighted.

They pussied out and made the locker room friendly move--showing loyalty by not releasing one of their two extremely limited true centers--instead of making the best basketball decision.

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22 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Ref conspiracy talk not going away.

Every team has that ref they never win if he officiates. I remember seeing constant posts during the mavs run of certain refs and the mavs record when he called games. Literally every team has one and Scott foster is one of them. Houston never wins when he calls a game. Not sure why but usually it has way more to do with him not meshing with our style of play more than a conspiracy against them. Just odd he would get the nod in game 7. 

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Every team has that ref they never win if he officiates. I remember seeing constant posts during the mavs run of certain refs and the mavs record when he called games. Literally every team has one and Scott foster is one of them. Houston never wins when he calls a game. Not sure why but usually it has way more to do with him not meshing with our style of play more than a conspiracy against them. Just odd he would get the nod in game 7. 
Slim Thug and Paul Wall are.doing a show before the game. Always seems the Rockets win when those two get together, well, we all win.
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Sorry Houston.   Been a good season, but Foster definitely has a reputation for carrying out agendas. 
Eh, we shall see. According to that link I posted upthread, none of them are particularly for or against the home team. One leans slightly in favor of fouls for the home team this season, but that's just overall totals for the season. Nothing team or player specific.
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