Negative Recruiting Your Own School: The aggy Screenshot Megathread

[Rickylovesweed 14507]

16 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

On the other hand, he’s always going to function as a buffer between the fans and the AD, obfuscating and exaggerating feedback and issues, never fully allowing anyone to really understand where anything stands until it is too late. 

 

The thing is, I think this is just aggy. They live in their own reality. They don't want somebody to feed them the truth and would rather continue to have false hope. 

[Tex Pete 20403]

9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I’ve never quite figured out whether or not Liucci is more of an asset or a hindrance to that program. On the one hand, he functions as an extension of the AD and helps recruit players with impunity and was a big part of their bagman program. 

On the other hand, he’s always going to function as a buffer between the fans and the AD, obfuscating and exaggerating feedback and issues, never fully allowing anyone to really understand where anything stands until it is too late.

Just remember that Liucci and company fired Sherman and Sumlin.

Liucci gets to be a big money aggie without truly being a big money aggie. He hangs out with players, coaches, and donors and licks their balls until he and his nutjob community decide it is time to get rid of Coach X. Billy makes money like a genius by preying on their gullible fanbase, but he actually has no knowledge that entitles him to influence the way he does. When it's all said and done, Billy is just as ignorant as the rest of them. "

Franchione is the best and will show them durn teasippers. I mean, Mike Sherman is the best. That is, Kevin Sumlin is the best. I said Jimbo Fisher is the best..." His opinion of their program and school is tremendously inflated which results in complete embarrassment when it blows up in his face as it does repeatedly.

Seriously, Texas A&M is the Wile E Coyote of college fanbases.

 

[MuellerHorn 4256]

2 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

So much this.  The aggy $9.95ers are actually pretty tame considering the audience they serve.  If anything, there’s a market opening for someone to just unabashedly publish truly batshit propaganda and steal their subscribers. 

Hamm filled that role until he imploded his life being, as you said, "batshit" in everything he did. 

[Lhorn 4921]

I want this aggy misery to go forever.  No matter how big that buyout, they’ll find a way to make it happen if this gets bad enough.  For that reason I’d love to see them win just enough games that they can’t justify it.  I don’t know what that number is.

If Weigman looks promising enough maybe they keep Jimbo even with a terrible record just based on hope.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Lhorn

[SHOOTER12 8811]

5 hours ago, ajax said:

I'm looking forward to seeing what the "worst Bama team in the Saban era" is going to do to aggy on Oct 7.

Same here. After all aggy parroting Sabans finished, they're way down this year, their talent level is way down etc etc, can't wait to see how that ages when Bama hangs 50 ir 60 points on them.

Spin that aggots.

[Gut Wagon 8083]

47 minutes ago, Lhorn said:

I want this aggy misery to go forever.  No matter how big that buyout, they’ll find a way to make it happen if this gets bad enough.  For that reason I’d love to see them win just enough games that they can’t justify it.  I don’t know what that number is.

If Weigman looks promising enough maybe they keep Jimbo even with a terrible record just based on hope.

Their very own Shaka Smart debacle. Just way more expensive and causing way more angst for way more fans. 

[Cairn Horn88 8275]

I've come to realize that if The University of Texas did not exist....aggy would still have called themselves Texas A&M aggys, and would still only have 1/3 of the PUF funds, plus, they still would not be the flagship university of Texas...with no encumbrances....they would still be the aggy we know and love today....its their destiny!

[Deej 76842]

1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

So much this.  The aggy $9.95ers are actually pretty tame considering the audience they serve.  If anything, there’s a market opening for someone to just unabashedly publish truly batshit propaganda and steal their subscribers. 

Edited September 15, 2023 by Deej

[Deej 76842]

50 minutes ago, SHOOTER12 said:

Same here. After all aggy parroting Sabans finished, they're way down this year, their talent level is way down etc etc, can't wait to see how that ages when Bama hangs 50 ir 60 points on them.

Spin that aggots.

They didn't have the good fortune of facing Milroe. Duh!

[billfromlaketravis 11519]

17 minutes ago, Deej said:

They didn't have the good fortune of facing Milroe. Duh!

Yep. They’ll get smoked by Buchner and this will be their out.

I’m starting to understand them. As long as they have 1 illogical excuse to hang their hats on, it’ll get them to next year. 

[ousux 5599]

Yep. They’ll get smoked by Buchner and this will be their out.
I’m starting to understand them. As long as they have 1 illogical excuse to hang their hats on, it’ll get them to next year. 

Next year they will be properly prepared for Bama having a competent QB.

Oh, and before I forget..free beer at the Chicken tomorrow!

[Gut Wagon 8083]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Yep. They’ll get smoked by Buchner and this will be their out.

I'm fine with this. Especially if Milroe plays RB in that game and goes over 100...with him also throwing a bonus TD pass to Burton. 

[Elmer_Fudd 22296]

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

I want this aggy misery to go forever.  No matter how big that buyout, they’ll find a way to make it happen if this gets bad enough.  For that reason I’d love to see them win just enough games that they can’t justify it.  I don’t know what that number is.
If Weigman looks promising enough maybe they keep Jimbo even with a terrible record just based on hope.

He’s for sure got another year since they are zeroing in their hate on durkin.. kings like last year they will convince themselves to let the ceo get another defensive boss

[Rimbo 25988]

30 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Oh really? Just as a reminder...

note the date on that tweet

[Rimbo 25988]

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Liucci: Jimbo Fisher's extension will be another 'bargain' for Texas A&M

By Billy Liucci September 1, 2021

You're going to see this contract be 10 years, starting from now, with an average right around $9 million per year. You're starting the existing deal over with a significant raise to make him the second-highest paid coach in the SEC behind Nick Saban and one of the highest-paid in college football. This is a great deal. We're going to look at it again as a great bargain.

We've been talking about it for the last three years and how wrong people were the first time. Now they're doing it again. People don't seem to understand the no-buyout thing, and that makes me laugh. The buyout is $9 million a year, $90 million guaranteed.

Nick Saban doesn't look like he's going to retire anytime soon, but say Alabama comes after Jimbo Fisher in three years when Saban is done. That's the only school that could take Fisher with the money that Texas A&M is paying. If Alabama does that, it means the next three years have been really good in Aggieland.

A buyout does nothing. When was the last time a school didn't hire a coach they wanted because of a buyout? Do you think a one-year buyout, another $9 million, would keep A&M from going to get a coach? The buyout is $90 million. It also keeps the coach here. It's like the SEC not having a grant of rights. The SEC basically says, "You want to leave? Go.

"I don't think there is any danger of Fisher leaving. The danger is losing money.

If it doesn't work, you lose money. Everyone is making a big deal about it, but it's like me and Olin living in the same neighborhood. If I saw him driving a Maserati, that's Olin's business. Not mine. The way the media is acting would be like me walking around the neighborhood calling Olin an idiot for spending that money on a car. Who's the idiot in that scenario?

A&M is three years into this, and they have a pretty good idea of what they're investing in. People are saying it's only one good year, but it's not. It's one great year and three years of progress. Jimbo's first year was a nice, strong season. They finished ranked and won a bowl game, playing great football at the end of the year. His third year was a top-five finish, an Orange Bowl championship and a legitimate argument to be in the playoff.

In 12 years as a coach, Fisher has a national title, a playoff berth and another top-five finish. He probably has five top-ten finishes in 12 years to go along with that. At what point do you look at that resume and say that Fisher is an elite head coach in this game? He is. It's not debatable. Texas A&M has a coach that is among the very best, the top five, in this game.

If you look at what Fisher is doing in recruiting and don't feel extremely confident in your investment, I don't know what to tell you.

Regarding the timing, coaches don't like negotiating during the season. What if Texas A&M reached the playoff this year and LSU spiraled? I think Texas A&M did the right thing. We got our guy, and he's locked up for as long as he wants to coach.

This guy won a national title. He won 27 of 28 games with Jameis Winston in 2013 and 2014. People want to say it was all Winston, but you can't take away a guy's best player. If you take away Vince Young, what did Mack Brown do? Take away Joe Burrow, Ed O doesn't win a championship.

I know what Dan Mullen has done, and I know what Jim Harbaugh has done. What in the hell have they done that Jimbo hasn't done? Mullen won a New Year's Six game, and Florida caught some criticism for that extension. The blowback shows how big the spotlight is on Texas A&M and Jimbo Fisher.

For the people that say A&M isn't relevant, you're hearing most of that from Texas, Oklahoma and some from LSU. They're whining fake tough guys.

If you say a negative thing about Oklahoma, the Sooners go insane. Somebody asked me if I'd rather have Lincoln Riley or Jimbo at Texas A&M, at the answer is Jimbo. Riley is a good coach, but he coaches in a league where he has five times the talent as anybody he plays. They're both good coaches, but it's apples to oranges. Jimbo Fisher is a great fit at Texas A&M.

Texas might be the most delusional fanbase in American sports. They're loud on Twitter. They get these talking points, and no matter how bad their team is or how good things are going in College Station, they cannot come off their talking points. How much money did they pay to fire Herman and hire Steve Sarkisian? We know what Sark has done. You want to boil it down to Fisher not winning a title in three years? You spent $75 million to hire Sarkisian.

LSU is just scared. They had that great year and smoked the Aggies in 2019, but they've lost two of three to Texas A&M. Jimbo Fisher is the guy they've tried to hire twice. Ed Orgeron is a trainwreck of a coach, and they know it. They were hoping they could possibly hire Fisher at some point, and the Aggies just put up a wall around College Station.

A day ago, what was the big cry coming out of Austin, Baton Rouge and Norman? That Fisher would be in Baton Rouge in a year. That was the battle cry from those three fanbases, and they wouldn't shut up about it. Today, 10 years and $90 million later, A&M is stupid for paying it? It's a constantly moving target.

This little gem from just over two years ago, too.

Source didn't have the paragraphs right, so I tried to add 'em in where it looked like they should've been.

Edited September 16, 2023 by Rimbo

[Redneck Mutha 8006]

4 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I’m starting to understand them. 

From the outside looking in, you understand them?

[Tired Horn 738]

"His third year was a top-five finish, an Orange Bowl championship and a legitimate argument to be in the playoff."

I guess you can technically use that term, but for Aggie it seems a bit Freudian. Most people just say "Orange Bowl win" or "Orange Bowl victory."

Did Jimbo get another home-made plaque for that "championship?"

[ousux 5599]

He’s for sure got another year since they are zeroing in their hate on durkin.. kings like last year they will convince themselves to let the ceo get another defensive boss

Yes, they're all enamored with the Jimbobby offense but blame Durkin for not getting enough stops.

I mean, they aren't wrong about Durkin, but he's far from the only issue that program has.

[texifornia 57027]

29 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

From the outside looking in, you understand them?

He's already admitted to spending and enjoying time on their boards. Next step is fish camp.

[SydneyCarton 48112]

10 hours ago, Rimbo said:

This little gem from just over two years ago, too.

Source didn't have the paragraphs right, so I tried to add 'em in where it looked like they should've been.

Thank you for finding this, first off. 
 

second, I just want to add that Olin IS a fucking idiot, and yes, if he is driving around in a Maserati in his shitty cookie cutter neighborhood full of 200k track homes, then yes, I’m also going to fucking call him a stupid fucking idiot. And that’s my fucking business. 

[SimkinsMan 4405]

On 9/14/2023 at 6:15 PM, cafe society said:

Deion is not going to ATM.  I would think that after Elko they would pursue Mullen.

If they want Elko they had better fire Jimbo soon. I'm hearing he's at the top of the list for Michigan State.

[SydneyCarton 48112]

21 minutes ago, SimkinsMan said:

If they want Elko they had better fire Jimbo soon. I'm hearing he's at the top of the list for Michigan State.

Duke might just keep paying the motherfucker. 

[Ravishing Rick 1129]

17 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I’ve never quite figured out whether or not Liucci is more of an asset or a hindrance to that program. On the one hand, he functions as an extension of the AD and helps recruit players with impunity and was a big part of their bagman program. 

On the other hand, he’s always going to function as a buffer between the fans and the AD, obfuscating and exaggerating feedback and issues, never fully allowing anyone to really understand where anything stands until it is too late. 

I wouldn’t want somebody like that around Texas. I also don’t like true parasites like Ketchum and Chip Brown hanging around either. At least Texas has extensions actually helping them identify talent and issues with some transparency and honesty though. 

His “intelligence to content produced” ratio asymptotically approaches zero and he has the emotional stability of a 9 month old sitting in a poopy diaper.  Clear hindrance to A&M

[MonkeyDoughnut 10326]

40 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Duke might just keep paying the motherfucker. 

Agreed, Elko has plenty of money and making good money at Duke. He seems like a perfect fit at Duke because he's smart enough to know he's got a great thing going at a great place to live, no reason to chase dollars that he'll never spend.

[SydneyCarton 48112]

Just now, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Agreed, Elko has plenty of money and making good money at Duke. He seems like a perfect fit at Duke because he's smart enough to know he's got a great thing going at a great place to live, no reason to chase dollars that he'll never spend.

Maybe, but I was referring to the fact that I believe Duke is committed to spending into their football program. Could be a perfect storm for all parties. 

[closetojumping 62757]

1 hour ago, SimkinsMan said:

If they want Elko they had better fire Jimbo soon. I'm hearing he's at the top of the list for Michigan State.

I think that would be a great hire. 

45 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Agreed, Elko has plenty of money and making good money at Duke. He seems like a perfect fit at Duke because he's smart enough to know he's got a great thing going at a great place to live, no reason to chase dollars that he'll never spend.

Duke seems like it will always be a stepping stone in football. Obviously the Research Triangle is far superior to East Lansing in every way, but it seems like way more can be done at MSU vs Duke. 

[texifornia 57027]

8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I think that would be a great hire. 

Duke seems like it will always be a stepping stone in football. Obviously the Research Triangle is far superior to East Lansing in every way, but it seems like way more can be done at MSU vs Duke. 

Yup - Dantonio but less of an asshole is a great fit at MSU, and he took them to the Playoff. (Michigan being down obviously helped a ton with that, but still)

[Rickylovesweed 14507]

23 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Traylor is a winner. Has won consistently everywhere he has been as a HC in HS and college so far. UTSA was a laughing stock before he arrived. Even in 2020 in his first season when he had to play 4 different QB's because of injuries he still won 7 games for the second time in school history.

Frank Harris has certainly helped but his ability to motivate and get guys to play above their heads is impressive. They were starting defensive tackles on the OL last year because of injuries and still won 11 games. He also has had several assistants hired away for P5 jobs which is a good sign.

He seems to have a good head of his shoulders so my guess is he knows it is about time to jump ship with Houston, Baylor and potentially some bigger Texas jobs about to come open. I'll be mildly surprised if he is coaching UTSA in Austin next season.

Definitely a good coach but he's now 1-2 with a banged up Harris this year. I don't think Traylor is near the slam-dunk type hire as some think. Maybe I'll change my mind with more evidence this year if Harris is out and UTSA stacks some wins. 

Edited September 16, 2023 by Rickylovesweed

[deech 2291]

I would rather be competing in state against butter teeth than go to Michigan State.  If I was Elko I would stay at Duke until the right job opened up.  Of course Matt Campbell might disagree. 

[Pato del Muerto 52530]

There were some mentions of kielman, yeah?  I’m sure losing to missourah is an immediate disqualifies for such an esteemed program like aggy. 

[Rickylovesweed 14507]

7 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

There were some mentions of kielman, yeah?  I’m sure losing to missourah is an immediate disqualifies for such an esteemed program like aggy. 

Klieman is 20-16 in the Big 12 and will likely only have 1 ranked season in 5 years at K-State. 

I would love if aggy hired him. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

3 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Klieman is 20-16 in the Big 12 and will likely only have 1 ranked season in 5 years at K-State. 

I would love if aggy hired him. 

Nah, his teams are usually tough, smart, and play hard. Aggy could do a lot worse. 

[ousux 5599]

There were some mentions of kielman, yeah?  I’m sure losing to missourah is an immediate disqualifies for such an esteemed program like aggy. 

aggy is above hiring BDF coaches these days...which is why they'll also pass on Leipold and it will be glorious seeing who they manage to hire.

[Rickylovesweed 14507]

5 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Nah, his teams are usually tough, smart, and play hard. Aggy could do a lot worse. 

Out of all the names mentioned, Klieman is the weirdest fit. 

He has zero connection to Texas, his offensive approach doesn't seem like a great fit with Texas HS talent, he's never really been in a high-pressure cooker like aggy, and NIL/recruiting has never been a huge factor anywhere he's been so he's inexperienced on that front. On top of that, his resume at K-State is just OK. 

I personally think Kilieman would be an absolute disaster at aggy. 

[Junior Bonner 6257]

1 minute ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Out of all the names mentioned, Klieman is the weirdest fit. 

He has zero connection to Texas, his offensive approach doesn't seem like a great fit with Texas HS talent, he's never really been in a high-pressure cooker like aggy, and NIL/recruiting has never been a huge factor anywhere he's been so he's inexperienced on that front. On top of that, his resume at K-State is just OK. 

I personally think Kilieman would be an absolute disaster at aggy. 

So no downside then… 

[msucolt45 4063]

Can’t see Deion wearing burgundy adidas shoes on the sideline. Prime don’t do burgundy!

Hook’em!!!

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

12 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Out of all the names mentioned, Klieman is the weirdest fit. 

He has zero connection to Texas, his offensive approach doesn't seem like a great fit with Texas HS talent, he's never really been in a high-pressure cooker like aggy, and NIL/recruiting has never been a huge factor anywhere he's been so he's inexperienced on that front. On top of that, his resume at K-State is just OK. 

I personally think Kilieman would be an absolute disaster at aggy. 

Were you expecting more than one B12 championship for a team with literally no donors and a bunch of 1-3*? 

[Pato del Muerto 52530]

15 minutes ago, ousux said:

aggy is above hiring BDF coaches these days...which is why they'll also pass on Leipold and it will be glorious seeing who they manage to hire.

I might have read Leilold and fucked it up to kleiman. 

11 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

Can’t see Deion wearing burgundy adidas shoes on the sideline. Prime don’t do burgundy!

Hook’em!!!

What are fsu’s colors again?  Garnet isn’t basically the same?

Edited September 16, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[cafe society 2872]

11 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

Can’t see Deion wearing burgundy adidas shoes on the sideline. Prime don’t do burgundy!

Hook’em!!!

Please stop insulting burgundy.  Purple >>> brown.

[Rickylovesweed 14507]

3 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Were you expecting more than one B12 championship for a team with literally no donors and a bunch of 1-3*? 

No, but 1 good season merely proves it was an outlier year. 

The other years in the Big 12. 5-4, 4-5, 4-5, and I bet around that same range this season. The "hey we coached up a bunch of 1 to 3 stars really good this 1 season" isn't very persuasive to me. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

27 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

No, but 1 good season merely proves it was an outlier year. 

The other years in the Big 12. 5-4, 4-5, 4-5, and I bet around that same range this season. The "hey we coached up a bunch of 1 to 3 stars really good this 1 season" isn't very persuasive to me. 

Yea, that's totally all the success that he's a head coach. He wasn't like 69-6 at North Dakota St. Who gives a shit what conference it is, you have to be a good coach to have a winning percentage like that, period. 

And he's gone 8-5 twice along with 10-4 last year. He's had 1 "bad" year out of 4. I'd say he has exceeded expectations at K St for anyone that doesn't have a stadium named after them. 

Edited September 16, 2023 by totallynotabuttpirate

[Rickylovesweed 14507]

4 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

He wasn't like 69-6 at North Dakota St.

Winning at North Dakota State doesn't mean you're a top-tier level coach at this level. Bohl was 104-32 at North Dakota State and is now 54-56 at Wyoming. 

So far, Kleiman has 1 good season at this level and it's probably going to be 1 good season out of 5 the way this year is trending. I don't think he's a bad coach but I don't get the fit at all combined with his resume at K-State. 

[texifornia 57027]

10 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Winning at North Dakota State doesn't mean you're a top-tier level coach at this level. Bohl was 104-32 at North Dakota State and is now 54-56 at Wyoming. 

So far, Kleiman has 1 good season at this level and it's probably going to be 1 good season out of 5 the way this year is trending. I don't think he's a bad coach but I don't get the fit at all combined with his resume at K-State. 

To be fair, Wyoming and K-State are tough jobs. There's a reason they keep getting extensions.

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

17 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Winning at North Dakota State doesn't mean you're a top-tier level coach at this level. Bohl was 104-32 at North Dakota State and is now 54-56 at Wyoming. 

So far, Kleiman has 1 good season at this level and it's probably going to be 1 good season out of 5 the way this year is trending. I don't think he's a bad coach but I don't get the fit at all combined with his resume at K-State. 

Let me breakdown the usual qualities of his teams and how that relates to coaching at aggy:

1. His teams play tough and hard almost every game. Who's the last aggy coach that got their team to consistently play hard all season regardless of the result? Rumlin's first year? 

2. His teams play smart and typically don't beat themselves. No additional comment needed.

3. His teams usually have a pretty good defense and special teams. Outside of the Elko years, aggy hasn't done that. 

4. He appears to not be a piece of shit himself, or with his hires. No additional comment needed.

5. His players don't hate him. No additional comment needed.

 

Like I said, aggy could do a lot worse than him. I'd much rather they do their usual money whip of some proven coach with high expectations and then fall flat on their faces thing. 

 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2023 by totallynotabuttpirate

[billfromlaketravis 11519]

I’d say anybody other than Deion or Elko would be a win for us. Deion for the unstoppable, unceasing hype train and Elko for extreme competence. 
 

I work and socialize with quite a few aggys and they haven’t really put a name forward. Drinking until they pass out and hope it gets better seems to be the current plan. 

[Junior Bonner 6257]

4 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

 

I work and socialize with quite a few aggys and they haven’t really put a name forward. Drinking until they pass out and hope it gets better seems to be the current plan. 

You just described the first 20 years of my adulthood… 

[Post Oak 20251]

The margin for error is so small at these schools.  Count me as a guy who thinks Klieman is a very good coach.  

[Vertigo 20290]

2 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

The margin for error is so small at these schools.  Count me as a guy who thinks Klieman is a very good coach.  

Klieman is a good coach, but there is a real ceiling for a number of coaches in terms of how big of a program they can effectively lead. Traylor and Kliemann both would be taking monster steps up, and that doesn't always work out.

[Deej 76842]

3 hours ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Nah, his teams are usually tough, smart, and play hard. Aggy could do a lot worse. 

No way anyone can build a smart team at aggy.