Jimbo 2019: The Only Tail Getting Busted is Candi's

[golfclap 6903]

6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

In this scenario, the likelihood that team B didn’t also pay is approaching null.  Kids, family, or trainers on the take don’t turn down payment from school A to accept nothing from school B. 

Actually it happens all the time. It's super common when let's call it the chain-of-custody changes. 

Example : Player A is from a smaller town where they don't get a lot of recruiting, the assistant coach at the school is young and doesn't really know how the whole thing works, and how to educate the family and interceded before outside forces go to work. So there's a fictional guy, we'll call him AgentJkB. He makes friends with Player A and his parents and touts how he's done this before he knows the game and how to get Player A in front of his favorite schools and coaches.  AgentJkB gets paid a couple hundred by Booster A to have Player A visit School A. Later Player A is invited to School B's JR day. He attends, as does AgentJkB who has his hand out and clearly does not know how the system works, or that School B isn't paying for visits, etc ...  this information is passed to the mother who is pissed AF that her son may not get attention/offers from School B (or School D and E as well) and tells AgentJkB to pound sand. Recruitment plays out over time and Player A signs with School B. 

 

 

 

[golfclap 6903]

8 minutes ago, Yesh said:

Of course.  But the question is, if a team is recruiting a player cleanly, and they find out or suspect he is being recruited dirty by another team, can they still recruit him cleanly with no worries or do they have to back away?

Depends on who is running the recruitment and if there's a way to bypass certain influencers. If you can bypass and the player is worth the trouble sure. If there isn't a way, well then you have Marcel Brooks. Marvin Wilson. Marquez Beason. Baron Browning, etc ...      

[Yesh 915]

What about this scenario.

A current aggy commit ends up signing with Texas.  He plays in 2019.

Then in the summer of 2020, a video is obtained by the NCAA from the summer of 2018 of Jimbo handing him a bag with $50,000 in cash, and the audio has the player saying "I agree to accept this money in exchange for signing with Texas A&M".

I understand the player and Jimbo would be in trouble.  Would Texas be in trouble?  Would those game he played in be potentially forfeit and Texas have sanctions?  Does the school accept responsibility for their players actions even though they were not involved in the impropriety?

[Bevo 13576]

2 minutes ago, Yesh said:

What about this scenario.

A current aggy commit ends up signing with Texas.  He plays in 2019.

Then in the summer of 2020, a video is obtained by the NCAA from the summer of 2018 of Jimbo handing him a bag with $50,000 in cash, and the audio has the player saying "I agree to accept this money in exchange for signing with Texas A&M".

I understand the player and Jimbo would be in trouble.  Would Texas be in trouble?  Would those game he played in be potentially forfeit and Texas have sanctions?  Does the school accept responsibility for their players actions even though they were not involved in the impropriety?

That's what keeps teams from turning other teams in. In your scenario, Texas could not have won that recruitment without offering something to the player.

[campcrunk 2452]

30 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

Didn’t Ricky Seals-Jones claim he got paid $150k to go to aggy (or a similar amount)?

I thought I remembered something like that as well. Whatever it was, there was definitely a good reason Mack backed right the fuck away from that recruitment. Eric Dickerson's nephew gonna Eric Dickerson.

[Jojen 31]

8 minutes ago, campcrunk said:

I thought I remembered something like that as well. Whatever it was, there was definitely a good reason Mack backed right the fuck away from that recruitment. Eric Dickerson's nephew gonna Eric Dickerson.

Supposedly RSJ’s people were hitting up Texas for money after his injury and Mack eventually got ticked off and cut ties. At least that was the narrative being floated on the shag in the years afterwards, so grain of salt.

[BigVegasHorn26 630]

3 minutes ago, Jojen said:

At least that was the narrative being floated on the shag in the years afterwards, so take that to the bank.  

FIFY.  

[campcrunk 2452]

1 minute ago, Jojen said:

Supposedly RSJ’s people were hitting up Texas for money after his injury and Mack eventually got ticked off and cut ties. At least that was the narrative being floated on the shag in the years afterwards, so grain of salt.

Thanks - wouldn't surprise me one bit if that's the way it went down.

[golfclap 6903]

Demani update from Sayles ::

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Demani Richardson had successful surgery to repair a torn meniscus this morning. He'll now prepare for a couple months of rehab. Expecting him to be back and running full speed -- and cleaning clocks as a hard-hitting safety -- by sometime in the spring.

It's not looking like he will be able to enroll early at A&M ... but he's still very solid with his pledge.

So he's rehabbing for the next couple of months but can't get the classroom stuff done in time to EE? 

[closetojumping 62690]

20 minutes ago, golfclap said:

Demani update from Sayles ::

So he's rehabbing for the next couple of months but can't get the classroom stuff done in time to EE? 

If he's not enrolling early and he won't be ready until "sometime in the spring", how is this motherfucker going to be "cleaning clocks as a hard-hitting safety" at that point? Is he Terry Tate's heir apparent?

[HenryJames 66048]

Maybe he's going to apprentice with a clockmaker.

[NorLa Horns 1458]

you saying kids say stupid stuff like tweeting out about a Georgia coach "getting him that bag"? that kind of stupid?

[Mitch Cumsteen 18549]

Considering how often those assholes "run out of time," it's about time they have a clock cleaner.

[Not a Sock 2313]

53 minutes ago, NorLa Horns said:

you saying kids say stupid stuff like tweeting out about a Georgia coach "getting him that bag"? that kind of stupid?

That was a twitter troll.

[NorLa Horns 1458]

32 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

That was a twitter troll.

booo. thats no fun.

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Maybe he's going to apprentice with a clockmaker.

My guess is it's a correspondence course, which makes it perfect for aggy.

[VaHorn 105]

6 hours ago, Bevo said:

That's what keeps teams from turning other teams in. In your scenario, Texas could not have won that recruitment without offering something to the player.

But see Eric Dickerson. A&M bought him a gold Trans Am, and he signed with SMU. They didn’t give him anything. I know this because they said so and he agrees. So like two against one. Because sometimes... well, circumstances change. 

[closetojumping 62690]

3 hours ago, VaHorn said:

But see Eric Dickerson. A&M bought him a gold Trans Am, and he signed with SMU. They didn’t give him anything. I know this because they said so and he agrees. So like two against one. Because sometimes... well, circumstances change. 

Ha. Hey man, what he fuck? Are you claiming that SMU didn’t give Dickerson improper benefits to jilt ATM and head to Dallas? I assume you can’t be this clueless. 

[Machinator 32099]

 

[Not a Sock 2313]

13 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

Having flash backs to Derrick Foreman.

[BigVegasHorn26 630]

34 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

Maybe a HS staff that knows the kid was bought and are less invested?

[realgreggym 835]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Ha. Hey man, what he fuck? Are you claiming that SMU didn’t give Dickerson improper benefits to jilt ATM and head to Dallas? I assume you can’t be this clueless. 

I heard that a Dallas Law Firm set up a trust with 40k in it for him after he left SMU.

[SomnambulantBrobdingnagian 8]

12 hours ago, VaHorn said:

But see Eric Dickerson. A&M bought him a gold Trans Am, and he signed with SMU. They didn’t give him anything. I know this because they said so and he agrees. So like two against one. Because sometimes... well, circumstances change. 

this begs the question; in all the times aggy has been put on probation, who turned them in and what was the first domino, so to speak?

[Best served cold 150]

A kid can take all the money they want and it won't affect them unless they sign with that school. The school however will get scrutinized by the NCAA.

[VaHorn 105]

8 hours ago, realgreggym said:

I heard that a Dallas Law Firm set up a trust with 40k in it for him after he left SMU.

Payment after he left SMU?  Think again. 

[realgreggym 835]

2 hours ago, VaHorn said:

Payment after he left SMU?  Think again. 

From what I was told, a trust fund with 40k was set up before he signed with SMU and it would be available for him after he left so there was no paper trail while in school. If you heard something different, fine. Post it.

[VaHorn 105]

Read “A Payroll to Meet” by David Whitford. 

[Katfid54 8631]

Stay classy, Jimbo

[Chopper 17231]

One thing Jimbo has in common with his ex wife is they both get off by touching young student athletes. 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

No Candi for that young man.

[mr. sunshine 2825]

On 9/28/2018 at 7:24 PM, VaHorn said:

But see Eric Dickerson. A&M bought him a gold Trans Am, and he signed with SMU. 

and Anthony Byerly drove a brand new maroon Thunderbird to Austin. We were supposed to make him return aggy’s stupid car donation? Fuck that 

[Machinator 32099]

With Jadon Haselwood's decommitment from Georgia, A&M is now #1 in the composite. Put it on the wall.

[Sejjr 3246]

9 minutes ago, Machinator said:

With Jadon Haselwood's decommitment from Georgia, A&M is now #1 in the composite. Put it on the wall.

That is amazing, and aggy is going to go fucking nuclear with this shit. They will literally soil themselves across the state once this news becomes public knowledge. It will be gruesome and glorious at the same time. 

In what world, however, does aggy, with 1 questionable 5-star, 13 4-stars, and ELEVEN fucking 3-stars surpass Georgia with their FOUR 5-stars, 11 4-stars, and only 3 3-stars? That shit makes no sense, and the composite ranking puts way too much emphasis on the total number of commits. Not that any of this shit means dick, and we all know aggy will get passed multiple times before signing day. It is just stupid for that class to be ranked #1.

[Machinator 32099]

[TexasBeta 1261]

On 9/28/2018 at 11:40 AM, Yesh said:

Remind me again how this works.

Player (or family or associate) accepts benefit from someone associated with Team A.  Player then goes on to sign with Team B.

In this scenario I am certain that both the Player and Team A can be penalized.  But does Team B also have liability?

Eric Dickerson says Hello... Man.. VaHorn beat me to it.

Edited October 3, 2018 by TexasBeta

[Magus Ossis 2799]

Roller coaster recruiting. Half a class of bread plus half a class of four-stars with composite #1 at the top. #1 ranking draws attention from other teams to shop for and negative recruit aggy commits. On-field performance vindicates claims made by competing teams about aggy. The cream of the blue chip part of the class thins significantly in December, as only the die-hard moroons stay locked down. Final ranking is high enough to set the stage for next year's ride. Aggy enjoys reminiscing about their greatest win from last October: their mid-cycle national recruiting championship. Meanwhile, the bread settles in for five years of whoop-ee while the rarity of combined character and talent in the others becomes increasingly apparent.

[utexas8 1437]

What number do yall think they’ll be on NSD #2?

[Tired of Lurking 637]

6th. We will be 7th.

[Hiphopopotamos 20869]

8 minutes ago, utexas8 said:

What number do yall think they’ll be on NSD #2?

I'd guess probably 4th.  Assuming Alabama takes a full class they will pass them - as will Georgia - and probably LSU (or OUsucks).

[Scholz 11943]

Doesn't matter by then.  They'll have already put up another national title on their wall.

[Ricky Butler 2716]

8 minutes ago, Tired of Lurking said:

6th. We will be 7th.

They’ll have one of the greatest #6 classes of all time. Practically a #5 if you ask anyone in the know. Horns will have a weak #7. Wouldn’t trade any of our guys for theirs. 

 

Probably. 

[Vertigo 20285]

10 hours ago, Sejjr said:

That is amazing, and aggy is going to go fucking nuclear with this shit. They will literally soil themselves across the state once this news becomes public knowledge. It will be gruesome and glorious at the same time. 

In what world, however, does aggy, with 1 questionable 5-star, 13 4-stars, and ELEVEN fucking 3-stars surpass Georgia with their FOUR 5-stars, 11 4-stars, and only 3 3-stars? That shit makes no sense, and the composite ranking puts way too much emphasis on the total number of commits. Not that any of this shit means dick, and we all know aggy will get passed multiple times before signing day. It is just stupid for that class to be ranked #1.

Dude relax. They won't stay there by a longshot. This is peak roller coaster. Remember, it is October now. 

 

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[Sejjr 3246]

8 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Dude relax. They won't stay there by a longshot. This is peak roller coaster. Remember, it is October now. 

 

 

 

I'm perfectly calm dude. Calmer than you are.

[Scholz 11943]

 

[IDIOTsavant 8483]

11 hours ago, Sejjr said:

That is amazing, and aggy is going to go fucking nuclear with this shit. They will literally soil themselves across the state once this news becomes public knowledge. It will be gruesome and glorious at the same time. 

In what world, however, does aggy, with 1 questionable 5-star, 13 4-stars, and ELEVEN fucking 3-stars surpass Georgia with their FOUR 5-stars, 11 4-stars, and only 3 3-stars? That shit makes no sense, and the composite ranking puts way too much emphasis on the total number of commits. Not that any of this shit means dick, and we all know aggy will get passed multiple times before signing day. It is just stupid for that class to be ranked #1.

Morons use recruiting class rank mid-cycle.*Look at average stars until classes are done. They're 11th or so in average. They have 25 commits, so the total looks good. When everyone else fills in, they'll be pushed down...like always.

 

* This is why you see it so much with A&M.

Edited October 3, 2018 by IDIOTsavant
Truth

[texasstrong12 4668]

I have no clue why A&M isn't going after JUCO DL/LBers. 

1- They lose 3/4 starters on the DL (Durham, Mack, and Keke). After Madubuike they have very limited experience returning. Tyree Johnson has 6 tackles and Bobby Brown has 5 tackles on the season. 

2-They better pray that Dodson doesn't leave early. Alaka is #1 in tackles and Dodson is #3 in tackles. If Dodson leaves early they are screwed because they really don't have another mold on the roster that can play inside in Elko's system. Almost everyone else on the roster is a fit to play rover. 

3-A&M's defense is going to see a lot of turnover after this year. 5/6 of their top tacklers are for sure gone in Alaka, Capers-Smith, Durham, Wilson, Keke. It could be all 6 if Dodson leaves early. 

 

[Leanderman 2275]

Stupid sips, we just use this a recruiting tool to get ALL the 5 Stars we can buy, I mean get to commit.

[Machinator 32099]

We'll see if Jeffery Carter doesn't flame out, but he's good.

 

Edited October 3, 2018 by Machinator

[RabidM 2666]

There's never been a question about talent with Carter.  He's a top 50 to 100 player nationally on talent and athleticism.  I assume there's a reason we didn't pursue...

[Schulz2.0 28951]

4 minutes ago, RabidM said:

There's never been a question about talent with Carter.  He's a top 50 to 100 player nationally on talent and athleticism.  I assume there's a reason we didn't pursue...

A&M paid his dad.