The Cloak Room is not so bad.

[Captainant 27617]

18 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Forget CR, can't even keep a thread about CR from going to trash. 

Again, it starts when people start trying to insult/attack someone individually or as part of a group instead of the topic.

 

🎵 I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round 🎵

Slorch'd!

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Slorch'd!

Hell, even "Slorch'd" is a personal attack that's going to get someone stirred up and defensive.

And yes, he threw out some sort of insult, which was immediately followed by another poster throwing out insults back at him and then it all turns to shit. 

[Brian Fantana 6677]

Surly is surly.

[G650 14229]

1 hour ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Hell, even "Slorch'd" is a personal attack that's going to get someone stirred up and defensive.

And yes, he threw out some sort of insult, which was immediately followed by another poster throwing out insults back at him and then it all turns to shit. 

 

I seem to recall you are a newer ish poster, but slorch has been this way for decades. It's a meme at this point.

 

I will also say I think slorch is a standup dude. It's more amusing than anything when he goes down these holes.

[Celery Man 20929]

Maybe Surly’s pronouns should be impersonal.

[YGIFS 19449]

Would this be like a Jack Handey situation...?

"And now...Impersonal Pronouns" by Surly Horns..." 

"When I was growing up, politics were best left unsaid.  Then IT got weird, and THEY got mean, and THE debate got Slorch'd." 

I have no idea who he is in real life.  Could be an axe murderer, could be the Panhandle equivalent of Mother Teresa.  But on here, he at least digitally comes across as a standup guy.  At least he engages in robust political debate.  He doesn't just driveby with "Trump is the greatest President ever" and then get cuntingly shocked when people question it. .  He brings a different view to the table, I appreciate it.  I used to come at political discourse on this site from a markedly different angle.  You get older, maybe not wiser, and just realize that our species wasn't seeking out information or truth, they were seeking safe places to mentally hide.  He's comfortable outside his comfort zone, something I strive to be every single day as a father.  Life's fucking weird, that's why goofballs like us of all stripes migrate towards one another.  

[Celery Man 20929]

I agree with that except for the idea that he engages in robust political debate or even has a perspective, really. I think he’s a decent guy and I know he doesn’t give a shit what I think, and I do admire his ability to not let these interactions bleed into his interactions across the board - I respect that a lot.

Edited January 22 by Celery Man

[safe sex 11696]

If you bring facts and good faith discussion, there's no need to self-censor. Jfc the persecution complex that exists. 

['stache 21788]

Anybody who uses the term "triggered snowflake" non-sarcastically isn't interested in robust or intellectually honest political debate.

Edited January 22 by 'stache

[G650 14229]

5 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

post objective facts

That would be a great start

[Neonmoon 38129]

1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

post objective facts and don't delve too deep into personal analysis and opinion if it differs from the main group.

You can post an opinion that differs from the “group”, but it doesn’t mean it will go unchallenged. That goes for any topic on this site. Have you read the movie threads? Or food threads? Sweet Christ, some people post some horrible opinions, and are lambasted for them. Only in CR do people get their feelings hurt and complain about it. Why is that? 

[G650 14229]

9 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Generally in other topics, nobody cares about the topics so much to be hateful

Hell, sounds like you haven't been to the football board lately.

 

I do agree with you that people have wrapped up their whole identity in politics to our great detriment. It's basically become a stand in for sports

[locodos 5387]

5 minutes ago, G650 said:

Hell, sounds like you haven't been to the football board lately.

 

I do agree with you that people have wrapped up their whole identity in politics to our great detriment. It's basically become a stand in for sports self worth.

So close

[bolverk 29644]

42 minutes ago, G650 said:

Hell, sounds like you haven't been to the football board lately.

No shit. On the football board, you can get away with hateful homophobic slurs because you're pissed that a team from 🌈SAN FRANCISCO🏳️‍🌈 won a fucking football game on the same page that the site's owner is also actively posting and not get called out (even after that post had been reported). Of course, calling that poster out might be considered "toxic" by some.

I guess we're not so serious about expanding the appeal of the site to younger, more gay-friendly generations after all, and are simply content to let them continue to flock to the most popular place on the entire internet to discuss the sport, Reddit, instead where that type of language is actually faithfully moderated.

 

Edited January 22 by bolverk

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

You can post an opinion that differs from the “group”, but it doesn’t mean it will go unchallenged. That goes for any topic on this site. Have you read the movie threads? Or food threads? Sweet Christ, some people post some horrible opinions, and are lambasted for them. Only in CR do people get their feelings hurt and complain about it. Why is that? 

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/33655-each-generation’s-high-school-movie/#comments

Example of a great thread, actually belonging to you, that contains very good discussion of movies and debate across defining generations and even genres. 300+ posts from people across diverse backgrounds with a very wide variety of takes... yet no hurt feeling confirmations or bullying.  No demeaning attacks.  No bullshit tactics.  You won't find that in CR.

Why is that?  Because that environment is not desired by a significant faction of posters who participate in CR.

Edited January 22 by slorch

[Celery Man 20929]

Nailed it, that’s the difference.

[Captainant 27617]

19 minutes ago, slorch said:

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/33655-each-generation’s-high-school-movie/#comments

Example of a great thread, actually belonging to you, that contains very good discussion of movies and debate across defining generations and even genres. 300+ posts from people across diverse backgrounds with a very wide variety of takes... yet no hurt feeling confirmations or bullying.  No demeaning attacks.  No bullshit tactics.  You won't find that in CR.

Why is that?

Because the topic of that thread isn't "women and children drowned by the state of Texas in 2024"? And the disagreements are over opinion and not matters of legal fact like if the state has been blocking federal officers from accessing a drowning mother and children on the US/Mexico border. 

19 minutes ago, slorch said:

Because that environment is not desired by a significant faction of posters who participate in CR.

Sorry that you don't like to talk about facts? Maybe stick to sports or something? Idk man. You're incorrigible. 

Edited January 23 by Captainant

[Brian Fantana 6677]

2 minutes ago, slorch said:

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/33655-each-generation’s-high-school-movie/#comments

Example of a great thread, actually belonging to you, that contains very good discussion of movies and debate across defining generations and even genres. 300+ posts from people across diverse backgrounds with a very wide variety of takes... yet no hurt feeling confirmations or bullying.  No demeaning attacks.  No bullshit tactics.  You won't find that in CR.

Why is that?

Because there are no stakes in movie opinions. CR topics involve real people's lives and livelihoods.

[Neonmoon 38129]

The correct answer is movie opinions, food opinions, music opinions, and sports opinions do not affect other people. Opining that you like chili with beans doesn’t affect anyone except your shitty tastebuds. 

Opining that women should be forced to carry an unviable fetus to term or immigrants should not be treated like human beings means you’re a piece of shit because these opinions hurt other people. 

 

[mchookem 16318]

also clearly he did not see the Better Call Saul finale thread in that forum bc yikes.

[Kennythetiger 9374]

On 1/21/2024 at 11:25 PM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I can never decide if she’s hot, or not. 

[DDD Dad 14322]

16 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

You can post an opinion that differs from the “group”, but it doesn’t mean it will go unchallenged. That goes for any topic on this site. Have you read the movie threads? Or food threads? Sweet Christ, some people post some horrible opinions, and are lambasted for them. Only in CR do people get their feelings hurt and complain about it. Why is that? 

I like beans in chili. 
 

 

 

 

(Actually I don’t care one way or the other). 

[DDD Dad 14322]

22 hours ago, bolverk said:

No shit. On the football board, you can get away with hateful homophobic slurs because you're pissed that a team from 🌈SAN FRANCISCO🏳️‍🌈 won a fucking football game on the same page that the site's owner is also actively posting and not get called out (even after that post had been reported). Of course, calling that poster out might be considered "toxic" by some.

I guess we're not so serious about expanding the appeal of the site to younger, more gay-friendly generations after all, and are simply content to let them continue to flock to the most popular place on the entire internet to discuss the sport, Reddit, instead where that type of language is actually faithfully moderated.

 

Coincidentally, I was in SF this weekend playing golf at Cal Club on Sunday, and at the turn I grabbed a transfusion at the bar. On the 10th tee the caddie asked me what I was drinking. When I told him he said, “oh, a tranny”?  Since I had to spend the next two hours with him I replied, “that’s not very politically correct.”  If he had said that on here I would have ripped him a new hole. 
 

/csb

Edited January 23 by DDD Dad

[safe sex 11696]

Wtf is a transfusion drink?

[bolverk 29644]

5 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Wtf is a transfusion drink?

Golfers like 'em.

[YGIFS 19449]

This is horrible, this drink idea... /samir

[safe sex 11696]

I'd drink the fuck out of that

[cactusflinthead 27598]

I'd try one. Maybe twice just to be sure 

[Rex Kramer 1330]

3 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

When I told him he said, “oh, a tranny”?  Since I had to spend the next two hours with him I replied, that’s not very politically correct.”  If he had said that on here I would have ripped him a new hole.

[wildcat09 29337]

On 1/19/2024 at 10:21 AM, royiv said:

It cracks me up that the tough guy snowflakes are the ones who need and receive special treatment to protect their feelings. I thought they were supposed to be the fuck your feelings crowd.

Those poor boys are just too high strung. They're no daisies at all. 

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I'd drink the fuck out of that

That sounds refreshing as hell. Had never heard of it before, but I want to try one.

[hookemATL 11700]

John Daly is a better golf drink.

Slushie lemon/limeade with Sweet Tea Vodka, served with a heater and bucket of KFC on the side.

 

[YGIFS 19449]

So the drink whose shorthand is called "A Tranny" invented at a men's only private golf club with no women/trans folks are allowed, where the Cosmopolitan for the wives in the dining room was abbreviated to "a Cosmo" and now there's a "Tranny" for Transfusion cocktail misunderstanding?  And you folks don't think we live inside a computer?  mmmkay

Edited January 23 by YGIFS

[DDD Dad 14322]

3 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

 

[Frank Drebin 5665]

8 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

Coincidentally, I was in SF this weekend playing golf at Cal Club on Sunday, and at the turn I grabbed a transfusion at the bar. On the 10th tee the caddie asked me what I was drinking. When I told him he said, “oh, a tranny”?  Since I had to spend the next two hours with him I replied, “that’s not very politically correct.”  If he had said that on here I would have ripped him a new hole. 
 

/csb

Stunning.

And brave.

[DDD Dad 14322]

2 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Stunning.

And brave.

 

[safe sex 11696]

3 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Stunning.

And brave.

I don't think you should tempt yourself like this, deacon 

[Rex Kramer 1330]

5 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

 

[Brian Fantana 6677]

17 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Stunning.

And brave.

Kinda like making a new account on an internet message board to escape the reputation you created for yourself, Mr. Sack.

[High Plains Drifter 11024]

On 1/22/2024 at 9:46 AM, FirstTimeCaller said:

Hell, even "Slorch'd" is a personal attack that's going to get someone stirred up and defensive.

And yes, he threw out some sort of insult, which was immediately followed by another poster throwing out insults back at him and then it all turns to shit. 

 

I would be damn proud if my name became an inside surly joke. 

 

[RDCanecutter 26376]

On 1/23/2024 at 10:38 AM, cactusflinthead said:

I'd try one. Maybe twice just to be sure 

It's no michelada, but we must survive on what the land provides.

[Guest]

On 2/16/2024 at 11:24 AM, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I would be damn proud if my name became an inside surly joke. 

 

Well 'Slorch'd' just means you dared reply to the cabal with a dissenting opinion, while the cabal insists it does not exist within its own self-anointed objectivity.  Hell, here lately, it just means you might have replied at all in their playground, even with a post that most of them agree with.  Abortion thread, I'm looking at you.  I call out an idiot politician for being wildly inconsistent and most of the posters get it.  The illiterate one just saw my name and did their usual seizure though.

Edited February 18 by slorch

[G650 14229]

[Captainant 27617]

On 2/18/2024 at 7:09 AM, slorch said:

Abortion, thread! I'm looking at you.

In my mind, this is your battle cry before you Slorch a thread

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

On 2/18/2024 at 8:09 AM, slorch said:

Well 'Slorch'd' just means you dared reply to the cabal with a dissenting opinion, while the cabal insists it does not exist within its own self-anointed objectivity.  Hell, here lately, it just means you might have replied at all in their playground, even with a post that most of them agree with.  Abortion thread, I'm looking at you.  I call out an idiot politician for being wildly inconsistent and most of the posters get it.  The illiterate one just saw my name and did their usual seizure though.

Actually, you called someone unhinged, but you confused the person reporting it and the politician.  THAT is what you got called out for.  Then you fucked off here to bitch about it.  Slorch’d.

Edited February 20 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[DDD Dad 14322]

On 2/18/2024 at 8:09 AM, slorch said:

Well 'Slorch'd' just means you dared reply to the cabal with a dissenting opinion, while the cabal insists it does not exist within its own self-anointed objectivity.  Hell, here lately, it just means you might have replied at all in their playground, even with a post that most of them agree with.  Abortion thread, I'm looking at you.  I call out an idiot politician for being wildly inconsistent and most of the posters get it.  The illiterate one just saw my name and did their usual seizure though.

Slorch’d!

[elfenix 34221]

On 2/18/2024 at 7:09 AM, slorch said:

Well 'Slorch'd' just means you dared reply to the cabal with a dissenting opinion, while the cabal insists it does not exist within its own self-anointed objectivity.  Hell, here lately, it just means you might have replied at all in their playground, even with a post that most of them agree with.  Abortion thread, I'm looking at you.  I call out an idiot politician for being wildly inconsistent and most of the posters get it.  The illiterate one just saw my name and did their usual seizure though.

don't sell yourself short, you're more than capable of slorching up non-political threads.