Surly Horns Burnt Ends NIL Program- How YOU can help Texas with the NIL right now!

[immamac 42835]

3 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Any word on if we are doing the camp?  We should definitely do the camp.  What was the projection on that- something like $25,000 for an overnight or weekend? I think we can definitely make that work. I think between me and @Hagbard Celine we've got you half way there in commitments.  Does that need a separate compliance after the season or can we slip it all through on prior relationship?  Because with that camp if you hit the other marks that gets them to damn near $20,000 a year.  That's not bad at all. If you cut the walk ons out it would be $20k for the scholarship guys.  

Also- when does Cade Brewer's deal end?  Is it month to month and done with the football season?  Not singling him out personally, same deal happens for every senior.  Done at last game?  Survive till graduation?  I assume also anyone who portals out the other guys just get his monthly share, right?

This is pretty cool yall. Congrats on making this happen.  Thankful to be able to be a part of this community.

Seniors need to accelerate their AMA and podcast appearance, but they are due a lump sum 1 week prior to the bowl game (which that night at 11:59PM their eligibility ends). Dinner is planned in the dead period between the end of the season and the bowl game. 

We are effectively matching their university stipend, there is nothing like this going on in the whole country and this will put TEXAS on the map for NIL activity. 

[BigOrange1 6432]

i hope any and all publicity from this doesn't result in a ton of new fucktards signing up and posting here.

[immamac 42835]

signing up? yes.

Posting here? Probably not lol

[BigOrange1 6432]

that i can handle.

[Hornlover 8829]

3 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:

Rooooxanne, put on the red light!!!!! Start working the corner, bitch! 

He keep on smacking dat ass, she gonna end up with a Burnt End.

[bborange 10045]

Just signed up for $50 a month.

[burntorangebongos 10710]

I don't understand any of this stuff, really. But anything that will get us back to a National Championship game is something I'm happy to contribute towards. January 4, 2006 is a day that I could relive over and over like Groundhog Day. It was a great game day experience and the excitement of the win is a cherished memory. I love the Horns and I love the thought of helping out our players in an above board way that can lift their profiles and help us get more great players that we can cheer on. Like I said, I don't understand any of this NIL workings but I'm glad I post with people that can figure out how to do this and move the needle to getting us to back to an MNC. 

Way to go, you glorious assholes.

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by burntorangebongos

[millhouse 2603]

I'm in. Pretty pumped for the walkons to be getting in on the action too.

[RGBIII 22838]

31 minutes ago, bborange said:

Just signed up for $50 a month.

King shit

[RGBIII 22838]

18 minutes ago, millhouse said:

I'm in. Pretty pumped for the walkons to be getting in on the action too.

Me as well. This program could legit convince a kid to forgo a scholly to walk on here 

[immamac 42835]

6 hours ago, immamac said:

We are now at 

78/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr

33/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr

19/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr

for those bad at math that is ~ 2555/mo we need about 6k/mo to make this sustainable for the long term. We are almost halfway there!

Finished the day at:

86/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr

43/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr

27/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr

3285/mo - we are officially more than halfway there. 

[RGBIII 22838]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

Finished the day at:

86/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr

43/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr

27/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr

3285/mo - we are officially more than halfway there. 

67/150 for 10/mo or 120/yr (+19)

22/150 for 25/mo or 300/yr (+21)

17/50 for 50/mo or 600/yr (+10)

good work today folks. 50 new signups today alone! Only 194 folks away at varying levels to make this thing long term, ground floor shit! Keep this momentum up! 

[RGBIII 22838]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/surlyhorns-podcast/id1434954298?i=1000532930519

 

 

New podcast discussing getting through compliance 

[Serak The Preparer 3431]

It's been said many times already but shit, this really is awesome. I am looking forward to spreading the love to other positions as this becomes even more established. Just a great job getting this up and running, and props to all who have signed up already.

[Walte464 450]

Paid and in, great job 

[Victor Lazlo 1776]

Hey, @immamac,

Put a got damn sticky somewhere so it is easy to figure out where to pay for Burnt Ends. And BOLD the damn thing. JOIN BURNT ENDS HERE  

Took me 30 minutes to find the link to pay. Had to read through several threads to find it. Of course, if I’m a dumb ass and missed an easily identifiable link, my bad. 
 

Nevrmind, I found the orange header that I had minimized earlier. Still, you should have a sticky also. IMO

Edited August 24, 2021 by Victor Lazlo

[Victor Lazlo 1776]

Furk

Edited August 24, 2021 by Victor Lazlo
Furk

[RabidM 2666]

Hell, send a one time email to all members. This thing needs to be successful and not all members are paying attention to the thread. 

I'm in now. 

[westexhorn 2013]

11 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:

Rooooxanne, put on the red light!!!!! Start working the corner, bitch! 

my good friend is wondering about the sauce

[SydneyCarton 48054]

Blast emails to all users is a good idea. Some guys aren't prolific posters or on all the boards who might be interested in supporting the players. I'd recommend building a specific landing page that you can link out in the emails with a quick summary, and moving right to payment options.

I'd also considering offering to alter the Tree Fiddy memberships to allow for a percentage to go to this as well. That's a new category to add to the financial model, but it might be more palatable to some folks. Although Ideally, I'd be curious to view a breakdown of Tree Fiddy members who aren't also Burnt End members. 

Edited August 24, 2021 by SydneyCarton

[SydneyCarton 48054]

22 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Blast emails to all users is a good idea. Some guys aren't prolific posters or on all the boards who might be interested in supporting the players. I'd recommend building a specific landing page that you can link out in the emails with a quick summary, and moving right to payment options.

I'd also considering offering to alter the Tree Fiddy memberships to allow for a percentage to go to this as well. That's a new category to add to the financial model, but it might be more palatable to some folks. Although Ideally, I'd be curious to view a breakdown of Tree Fiddy members who aren't also Burnt End members. 

Also, not sure what the deal is @immamac but I definitely signed up for a Burnt Ends membership, and I don't see muh bling or my burnt orange name, sir. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20869]

29 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Blast emails to all users is a good idea. Some guys aren't prolific posters or on all the boards who might be interested in supporting the players. I'd recommend building a specific landing page that you can link out in the emails with a quick summary, and moving right to payment options.

I'd also considering offering to alter the Tree Fiddy memberships to allow for a percentage to go to this as well. That's a new category to add to the financial model, but it might be more palatable to some folks. Although Ideally, I'd be curious to view a breakdown of Tree Fiddy members who aren't also Burnt End members. 

Excellent suggestion.  Make it easier for people (psychopaths?) who really aren't into message-boarding and whatnot. 

[RabidM 2666]

We need a whale option too. If someone wants to drop 1k a month, that should be an option.  There should be no upper limit at all.  Let the whale choose how much he wants to drop. There shouldn't be a $50 cap.  Think big. Recruit big. Pitch to the big fish alums we know as an easy, zero effort way to help. 

Do we want to get into the business of acquiring or brokering NIL deals for players? 

Edited August 24, 2021 by RabidM

[FloridaHorn 4753]

Finally got around to signing up, happy to send some Florida cash to the boys. Thanks to all who put this together.

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

55 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Blast emails to all users is a good idea. Some guys aren't prolific posters or on all the boards who might be interested in supporting the players. I'd recommend building a specific landing page that you can link out in the emails with a quick summary, and moving right to payment options.

I'd also considering offering to alter the Tree Fiddy memberships to allow for a percentage to go to this as well. That's a new category to add to the financial model, but it might be more palatable to some folks. Although Ideally, I'd be curious to view a breakdown of Tree Fiddy members who aren't also Burnt End members. 

I agree with this 100% especially for those who aren't familiar with message boards and etc. Makes access easier.

 

@immamac the following URL's are all available for like $1 each.

 

SurlyBurntEnds.com

BurntEndsNIL.com

SurlyBurntEndsNIL.com

[TexasFan21 1275]

I am in, but it is saying the PayPal payment is processing. Not sure if other users had this pop up.

 

Edit: Looks like it worked. Glad to provide some support from Arkansas!

Edited August 24, 2021 by TexasFan21

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

Just now, TexasFan21 said:

I am in, but it is saying the PayPal payment is processing. Not sure if other users had this pop up.

From my experience it processes within the hour.

[Hornlover 8829]

2 hours ago, westexhorn said:

my good friend is wondering about the sauce

It's Teagan Presley's hand and Sasha Grey's burnt end, from the very NSFW title Sun Goddess Malibu. 

[Jive Turkey 12594]

i am still getting pounded by pop up ads.

[immamac 42835]

I may take off paypal card direct and just have stripe and external paypal for payment options to limit confusion. 

Stripe processes immediately, paypal external is a great option because people can use their checking account, cc, debit card, paypal credit and a bunch of other options. 

@SydneyCarton good idea - I'll set up a landing page now.

burntends.surlyhorns.com is already alias to the burntends homepage, but not the store. I'll alias the landing page above to all 3 of the URL's that @BurntOrange&White referenced above.

I had emails on pepipost/netcore, but there are tons of bounces and a lot of ISP's block them. It's significantly cheaper than mailchimp or sendgrid but the delivery rate is much lower, which I didn't give a shit about because it was mostly notification shit. Now that it's important emails I am going to switch back to sendgrid, but it's like 3x the cost.  I'm going to go ahead and unsubscribe everyone from emails that is in the Full Members or Legacy members groups - that will cut down on quite a bit of email.

If you want to continue receiving emails and you are in one of those groups you will need to enable them again in your notification settings. 

[immamac 42835]

3 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

i am still getting pounded by pop up ads.

you were another "lifetime" for early donation. Sorry about that - stay out of cloak room you heathen. HAHA

[immamac 42835]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Blast emails to all users is a good idea. Some guys aren't prolific posters or on all the boards who might be interested in supporting the players. I'd recommend building a specific landing page that you can link out in the emails with a quick summary, and moving right to payment options.

I'd also considering offering to alter the Tree Fiddy memberships to allow for a percentage to go to this as well. That's a new category to add to the financial model, but it might be more palatable to some folks. Although Ideally, I'd be curious to view a breakdown of Tree Fiddy members who aren't also Burnt End members. 

That is the primary revenue for keeping the lights on. There aren't enough treefiddy subs to justify taking a portion and from an income perspective it would become extremely difficult to decouple. 

treefiddy pays for everything, ad revenue from lurkers fund all the tailgates, happy hours and whatnot. 

[RGBIII 22838]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

I may take off paypal card direct and just have stripe and external paypal for payment options to limit confusion. 

Stripe processes immediately, paypal external is a great option because people can use their checking account, cc, debit card, paypal credit and a bunch of other options. 

@SydneyCarton good idea - I'll set up a landing page now.

burntends.surlyhorns.com is already alias to the burntends homepage, but not the store. I'll alias the landing page above to all 3 of the URL's that @BurntOrange&White referenced above.

I had emails on pepipost/netcore, but there are tons of bounces and a lot of ISP's block them. It's significantly cheaper than mailchimp or sendgrid but the delivery rate is much lower, which I didn't give a shit about because it was mostly notification shit. Now that it's important emails I am going to switch back to sendgrid, but it's like 3x the cost.  I'm going to go ahead and unsubscribe everyone from emails that is in the Full Members or Legacy members groups - that will cut down on quite a bit of email.

If you want to continue receiving emails and you are in one of those groups you will need to enable them again in your notification settings. 

You should add a "The whole brisket" option with a name your price over $100

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

5 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

You should add a "The whole brisket" option with a name your price over $100

Id do 100/mo but depends on what further benefits could be added. 

Edited August 24, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[HtownHorn 14663]

Thanks again guys for putting this together. Feels good to help our players out.

[immamac 42835]

1 hour ago, RabidM said:

We need a whale option too. If someone wants to drop 1k a month, that should be an option.  There should be no upper limit at all.  Let the whale choose how much he wants to drop. There shouldn't be a $50 cap.  Think big. Recruit big. Pitch to the big fish alums we know as an easy way, zero effort way to help. 

You can buy as many 50/mo or 600/yr subscriptions as you want, there is no limit and duplicates are allowed.

We have to tie the subscriptions to entitlements to stay above board, it can't just be a funnel for any money to come in and go out to players. Each individual needs to receive some value from their subscription, in the case of the 50/mo or 600/yr it's a seat at dinner. The more 50/mo subs you have the more seats at dinner you have to invite friends etc.

The 25/mo comes with a sticker and a cup, like actually you can't refuse delivery of those things

the 10/mo comes with access to the perks and exclusive content like the AMA.

The whole reason that we got through compliance is that this is completely legitimate and there isn't the capability to just "donate" to the players. The players are on the hook for content and the subscribers get value outside of just giving money to players. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

18 minutes ago, immamac said:

You can buy as many 50/mo or 600/yr subscriptions as you want, there is no limit and duplicates are allowed.

We have to tie the subscriptions to entitlements to stay above board, it can't just be a funnel for any money to come in and go out to players. Each individual needs to receive some value from their subscription, in the case of the 50/mo or 600/yr it's a seat at dinner. The more 50/mo subs you have the more seats at dinner you have to invite friends etc.

The 25/mo comes with a sticker and a cup, like actually you can't refuse delivery of those things

the 10/mo comes with access to the perks and exclusive content like the AMA.

The whole reason that we got through compliance is that this is completely legitimate and there isn't the capability to just "donate" to the players. The players are on the hook for content and the subscribers get value outside of just giving money to players. 

Could do a calendar featuring all the TE's for whole brisket subscribers haha

[RGBIII 22838]

23 minutes ago, immamac said:

You can buy as many 50/mo or 600/yr subscriptions as you want, there is no limit and duplicates are allowed.

We have to tie the subscriptions to entitlements to stay above board, it can't just be a funnel for any money to come in and go out to players. Each individual needs to receive some value from their subscription, in the case of the 50/mo or 600/yr it's a seat at dinner. The more 50/mo subs you have the more seats at dinner you have to invite friends etc.

The 25/mo comes with a sticker and a cup, like actually you can't refuse delivery of those things

the 10/mo comes with access to the perks and exclusive content like the AMA.

The whole reason that we got through compliance is that this is completely legitimate and there isn't the capability to just "donate" to the players. The players are on the hook for content and the subscribers get value outside of just giving money to players. 

Couldnt you put in a couple more expensive options and just call it Double Points or something like that where the additional benefit is an extra seat dinner or whatever. Probably splitting hairs

[Wulaw Horn 19065]

28 minutes ago, immamac said:

You can buy as many 50/mo or 600/yr subscriptions as you want, there is no limit and duplicates are allowed.

We have to tie the subscriptions to entitlements to stay above board, it can't just be a funnel for any money to come in and go out to players. Each individual needs to receive some value from their subscription, in the case of the 50/mo or 600/yr it's a seat at dinner. The more 50/mo subs you have the more seats at dinner you have to invite friends etc.

The 25/mo comes with a sticker and a cup, like actually you can't refuse delivery of those things

the 10/mo comes with access to the perks and exclusive content like the AMA.

The whole reason that we got through compliance is that this is completely legitimate and there isn't the capability to just "donate" to the players. The players are on the hook for content and the subscribers get value outside of just giving money to players. 

Thanks for the explanation on this- makes sense now as to why you have to go with multiple  subscriptions as opposed to a name your subscription amount above and beyond the $50.00 or a 1 time cash donation if you wanted to do it that way (which would certainly help with any initial costs).  Now that I understand that I'm going to repurpose my $1,000 a year into 2 annual $600 donations (thanks for adding that- option- it helps me from an expense sense that I can now just do 1 reimbursement as opposed to 12) 
 

@SydneyCarton had some great ideas, glad to see you are incorporating those.

 

@RGBIII great news on the tight end camp front on the donation of the spot- very cool.   Looking forward to getting with you on the Fayetnam trip to see how we can get something workable to give away 1 of those to a user per month...

Edited August 24, 2021 by Wulaw Horn

[HtownHorn 14663]

Do the TEs know this coming? So they are prepared for the content and meet and greets?

[Wulaw Horn 19065]

Just now, HtownHorn said:

Do the TEs know this coming? So they are prepared for the content and meet and greets?

Yes- they are the ones that had to get the agreements in to compliance and through compliance. 

[TexasFan21 1275]

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

Do the TEs know this coming? So they are prepared for the content and meet and greets?

Did you listen to the podcast? That'll answer your question. 😉

[HtownHorn 14663]

Just now, TexasFan21 said:

Did you listen to the podcast? That'll answer your question. 😉

Fuck no. Paint drying is more entertaining.

[RabidM 2666]

31 minutes ago, immamac said:

Each individual needs to receive some value from their subscription,

What constitutes value though?  Look at the artwork deal for that Oregon defensive player.  Hypothetically, if we had a whale on the hook, couldn't just concoct something of nebulous value and charge whatever we want for it? 

[RGBIII 22838]

3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Fuck no. Paint drying is more entertaining.

[RGBIII 22838]

Yes players all have their contracts signed and good to go. Organizing a meeting to receive their signing bonus and take an initial picture and announcement on their social media

[Wulaw Horn 19065]

11 minutes ago, RabidM said:

What constitutes value though?  Look at the artwork deal for that Oregon defensive player.  Hypothetically, if we had a whale on the hook, couldn't just concoct something of nebulous value and charge whatever we want for it? 

Yes. Right now it's the Wild West atmosphere of what’s going  on that’s been done in other places. UT isn’t comfortable with that nor is Imma apparently as Surly is not pushing the envelope in any way with this. 

Edited August 24, 2021 by Wulaw Horn

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

@immamac and @RGBIII how stoked were the players when you initially approached them?  I have to assume they were pretty excited.

[Deej 76754]

6 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

@immamac and @RGBIII how stoked were the players when you initially approached them?  I have to assume they were pretty excited.

I bet they were pretty stoked until they started perusing the forums. 

[HenryJames 66037]

16 minutes ago, RabidM said:

What constitutes value though?  Look at the artwork deal for that Oregon defensive player.  Hypothetically, if we had a whale on the hook, couldn't just concoct something of nebulous value and charge whatever we want for it?