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10 minutes ago, sidis said:

i gotta say, i have had lunch once and dinner twice and the french laundry...and i fucking love that place.  as well as per se.

salmon tartare cornets with sweet red onion creme fraiche, gougeres, butter poached lobster, coffee and donuts for days mother fuckers.

Well, I’m starting the petition to have you recalled from Surly. 

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4 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


No kidding. Why does it seem like, here lately, it takes several elections for a Democrat who won to actually win?

Because -- and follow me here, this is important -- the GQP does not believe that voters should have a voice if those voters disagree with the GQP.  It's insane and ridiculous, but it's also their core and foundational belief.

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2 minutes ago, sidis said:

i gotta say, i have had lunch once and dinner twice and the french laundry...and i fucking love that place.  as well as per se.

salmon tartare cornets with sweet red onion creme fraiche, gougeres, butter poached lobster, coffee and donuts for days mother fuckers.

Thomas Keller had a fantastic lobster macaroni and cheese on the menu at the French Laundry. https://www.masterclass.com/classes/thomas-keller-teaches-cooking-techniques-iii-seafood-sous-vide-and-desserts/chapters/butter-poached-lobster-with-macaroni-and-cheese

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But I digress. Newsom made a serious mistake going to the French Laundry while Californians of all persuasions took the early lockdown seriously. (the early lockdown worked for the first wave when compared to the northeastern states efforts). 

There was already a recall-Newsom effort underway (petitioning) pre-Covid.

The mistake fueled the pro-big-government California Republicans against Newsom (a big-government California Democrat). 

The recall was a serious waste of taxpayer money (not that California trumpers care about such things in real life). 

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5 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

We can at least all agree that French Laundry is a dumb as fuck name for a restaurant. 

the building that houses the restaurant was actually a steam laundry in the 1920's called The French Laundry...hence the origin of the name that was adopted by the restaurant's original owner (who also happened to be the mayor of Yountville).  TK retained the name when he bought it in 1994.

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1 minute ago, sidis said:

the building that houses the restaurant was actually a steam laundry in the 1920's called The French Laundry...hence the origin of the name that was adopted by the restaurant's original owner (who also happened to be the mayor of Yountville).  TK retained the name when he bought it in 1994.

Thanks for the history lesson. It’s still stupid af.

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5 minutes ago, sidis said:

the building that houses the restaurant was actually a steam laundry in the 1920's called The French Laundry...hence the origin of the name that was adopted by the restaurant's original owner (who also happened to be the mayor of Yountville).  TK retained the name when he bought it in 1994.

 

3 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

So is it too late to recall Cabo Steve? What about Cancun Cruz? 
 

Also so can someone explain why you would name a fancy French place “French laundry?”

Much like our donkey friend typically does, I have many questions. 

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This result is bad news for the anti vaxer idiots and the dipshits who enable them like hot wheels and Ron de sadist. Pandering to 25 percent of the end electorate, even if it’s 50 percent of your magat base, is never a sound election strategy.  Especially when you’re killing people along the way including kids. 

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4 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

This result is bad news for the anti vaxer idiots and the dipshits who enable them like hot wheels and Ron de sadist. Pandering to 25 percent of the end electorate, even if it’s 50 percent of your magat base, is never a sound election strategy.  Especially when you’re killing people along the way including kids. 

That bullshit plays a lot better in third world shitholes like Texas than CA.  It’s bad for their national strategy, but will be just fine here.

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2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

That bullshit plays a lot better in third world shitholes like Texas than CA.  It’s bad for their national strategy, but will be just fine here.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Over-65-of-Texans-support-vaccine-mandates-poll-16357459.php
 

Two thirds of Texans support vaccine mandates. While we are dumber than California, it’s still a loser issue for abbot and this waste of money recall highlights that. 

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41 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Because -- and follow me here, this is important -- the GQP does not believe that voters should have a voice if those voters disagree with the GQP.  It's insane and ridiculous, but it's also their core and foundational belief.

Yep, since they can’t win in an environment where voters choose the representatives, they are wanting a model where representatives choose the voters.  Never mind coming up with better policies or some shit people would want to vote for.

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1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

That kind of proves my point.  65% of people are against him on this, majority of people are against him on legalization, etc and he will still be re-elected with ease unless the even more shitastic candidate gets the R nomination. No way Abbott backs off on his crap just because a CA recall failed.

Because the majority of Texas voters will base their vote on the repetitive message from Fox news etc: "A vote for a Dem is a vote for commie socialism!"

It doesn't matter that on policy, more Texans agree with Dem positions than GQP positions.  A majority of Texans will select their candidate for a moronic slogan reason from Fox news.

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59 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Exactly.  Want to get pissed about a $350 plate of food then stop watching Fox News because everyone of those motherfuckers have probably eaten at a steakhouse in the last few weeks and dropped $300 on a 4 oz Wagyu filet and then add in the bottle of Opus One and whatnot and there meals are over $500.  I’m taking about Hannity, Tucker, the Murdoch’s et al.  And you know what, they can afford it because they are stealing money from the idiots in this country that follow them.

Also, of course those assholes would drop crazy coin on an overrated cut and and overrated Cali cult cab.  
 

“Cha-TAN-nuf  PEPE?!!! HANGMAN STEAK?!!  Fuck the French, AMERICA, BABY! “

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3 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Maybe I read a too simplified and reductive article, but it was framed as a seminal, "tipping point" event type catalyst that got the funding and momentum 10x'ed whereas pre-French Laundry it was just Qanon in echo chambers mentally masturbating (like Texit).

Gray Davis gave a good interview on NPR the other day. Apparently, every California governor in the past hundred years or so has been subject to a recall because it is easy to get done. He thinks that is a good thing. His issue with the way it works is that the incumbent is not allowed to be on the subsequent ballot. In other words, if the recall carries, you can wind up with someone who only a small percentage of the state wants as governor. He thinks they should change it so that the governor is still a choice even if you vote yes on his / her recall. This would greatly reduce the numbers of clowns showing up on the recall ballot.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Because -- and follow me here, this is important -- the GQP does not believe that voters should have a voice if those voters disagree with the GQP.  It's insane and ridiculous, but it's also their core and foundational belief.

These stupid motherfuckers can’t believe that a majority of the people around them don’t agree with their bat shit crazy ideas. They honestly think the only way anyone who doesn’t agree with them could possibly win is by cheating.

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

Gray Davis gave a good interview on NPR the other day. Apparently, every California governor in the past hundred years or so has been subject to a recall because it is easy to get done. He thinks that is a good thing. His issue with the way it works is that the incumbent is not allowed to be on the subsequent ballot. In other words, if the recall carries, you can wind up with someone who only a small percentage of the state wants as governor. He thinks they should change it so that the governor is still a choice even if you vote yes on his / her recall. This would greatly reduce the numbers of clowns showing up on the recall ballot.

I like that idea. Would also up the signature requirement - it’s criminally too low.  Also would prefer top 2 go to a run-off if no one gets 50% on question 2.  Restructure it into rank choice voting. 

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2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Gray Davis gave a good interview on NPR the other day. Apparently, every California governor in the past hundred years or so has been subject to a recall because it is easy to get done. He thinks that is a good thing. His issue with the way it works is that the incumbent is not allowed to be on the subsequent ballot. In other words, if the recall carries, you can wind up with someone who only a small percentage of the state wants as governor. He thinks they should change it so that the governor is still a choice even if you vote yes on his / her recall. This would greatly reduce the numbers of clowns showing up on the recall ballot.

From the same place I read the other stuff (not a link; a newsletter):

There have been 179 attempts since 1913. But few have prompted an election and only six officials have actually been recalled.

So you are right in that all of them have been attempted to be recalled, but to get this far down the line and get to a wasteful election, it seems as if a "French Laundry" event has to take place to tip the scales into action.

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7 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

From the same place I read the other stuff (not a link; a newsletter):

There have been 179 attempts since 1913. But few have prompted an election and only six officials have actually been recalled.

So you are right in that all of them have been attempted to be recalled, but to get this far down the line and get to a wasteful election, it seems as if a "French Laundry" event has to take place to tip the scales into action.

definitely wasn't the 120 extra days to collect signatures that pushed them over the edge. The "fReNcH lAuNdRy" event was not enough to put this initiative over the hump in the normal amount of time by Nov 17. The petitioners got the extension from a judge that used to be partner at the same law firm as a lawyer for the petitioners.

 

But yeah you're right, absolutely nothing else but for a french dinner. Damn those lefties for FORCING the redhats to waste $300MM+ of taxpayer money on a feckless and doomed vote!

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3 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

I subscribe and read the entire article. 

First, you missed an interesting part to highlight in your quote:

Further, the article makes the overall point that this misguided recall is another way to nullify (my word) voters in regular elections. The governorship is up for election next fucking year. The article asserts that Newsom has done nothing out of the ordinary enough for voters to desire a recall which the results prove. 

This is just more hate balleyhoo from the tantrum-throwing hate sled-dogs. Oooeey, oooeeyy! Newsom is a hypocrite about the plague!! Just like when Nancy got her hair done!!!! At last we get to the real important issues of the day!!!  We love America!!!

 

Please do link to your original source, DC.

Legally, yes. Practically? No. Newsom essentially won 2022 last night as well. The GQP cannot separate themselves from Trump. All Newsom has to do in his campaigning is sit back and watch whatever moron they trot out there to do nothing but trip over their own dick with a series of non-starters like “repeal the minimum wage.” 

EDIT: oh and as far as this French Laundry shit goes, that’s the bastard child of Barack Obama fucking Monica Lewinsky doggy style in the Oval Office without his jacket on while Benghazi, Willie Horton, Hunter Biden and the Clinton Foundation watched in some weird Eyes Wide Shut ritual.

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57 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

 

So you are right in that all of them have been attempted to be recalled, but to get this far down the line and get to a wasteful election, it seems as if a "French Laundry" event has to take place to tip the scales into action. one of the two major political parties needs to be hijacked by lunatics.

Stop trying to shift the blame. 

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Gray Davis gave a good interview on NPR the other day. Apparently, every California governor in the past hundred years or so has been subject to a recall because it is easy to get done. He thinks that is a good thing. His issue with the way it works is that the incumbent is not allowed to be on the subsequent ballot. In other words, if the recall carries, you can wind up with someone who only a small percentage of the state wants as governor. He thinks they should change it so that the governor is still a choice even if you vote yes on his / her recall. This would greatly reduce the numbers of clowns showing up on the recall ballot.

 

How about for the gov to be recalled, >50% have to vote yes on the 1st question, AND the winner has to get >50% out of the field?

Seems like it should be harder to recall than to elect in the first place, not easier.

 

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1 hour ago, DonkeyCigars said:

From the same place I read the other stuff (not a link; a newsletter):

There have been 179 attempts since 1913. But few have prompted an election and only six officials have actually been recalled.

So you are right in that all of them have been attempted to be recalled, but to get this far down the line and get to a wasteful election, it seems as if a "French Laundry" event has to take place to tip the scales into action.

Has a California Governor ever been recalled?

Since the people added the power of the initiative, referendum, and recall to the California Constitution in 1911, there have been 54 previous attempts to recall California Governors. Only one Governor has been recalled – Gray Davis in 2003.
 

From Ca SoS website
 

it does seem ridiculously easy to get the whole process to a vote. Even setting the numbers higher than 12% of the number of people that voted in the election to be recalled, I still think you need to keep the incumbent on the ballot. Having to have a majority to win also is a good idea.
 

And the French laundry angle is bullshit. The GQPers saw a chance to steal a governorship with 1/3 of the popular vote and went for it.

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4 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Pretty sure that "the douchier the name, the more you can charge" is restauranteuring 101.

So that's why you didn't join the gang at the bar of Pretension. Maybe after payday you can dine with us at Sneer. Their menu is all lower case, and they use Roman numerals for the prices. Also lower case. mmcdiii, how can you afford not to?

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