Trevor Bauer releases a statement

[kevwun 15758]

The problem is other players hate him.  He's gonna cause trouble wherever he signs like he has at every other stop in his career.

Edited March 20 by kevwun

[petscii 1189]

2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

The problem is other players hate him.  He's gonna cause trouble wherever he signs like he has at every other stop in his career.

Yeah.  The doctoring of baseballs is what used up any goodwill he had.. even though that was funny as fuck at the time..

 

 

[shadow_operative 15932]

 

[Derka 6136]

 

[n64ra 1080]

Billion is rather excessive for one player's worth.

[Beau Vine 54203]

IANAL, but wouldn't an industry blackballing a player be covered by antitrust law, which prescribes treble damages?

[immamac 42833]

23 minutes ago, n64ra said:

Billion is rather excessive for one player's worth.

How? His last contract was 100M+ for 3 years before he got fucked. 

10 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

IANAL, but wouldn't an industry blackballing a player be covered by antitrust law, which prescribes treble damages?

 

[TejasPedro 1857]

MLB better please Trevor, he will slap around and choke out Manfred

[Hornsbay22 467]

15 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

MLB better please Trevor, he will slap around and choke out Manfred

Manfred would like it....that beta bitch

[WBT 20559]

Isn't Bill James off his rocker these days?

 

Edited June 21 by WBT

[Fondren & Main 6699]

This gruntles me.

[Hank Chinaski 6312]

43 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

IANAL, but wouldn't an industry blackballing a player be covered by antitrust law, which prescribes treble damages?

I know nothing about any of this - how difficult is it to “prove” some sort of collusion? Couldn’t clubs reasonably argue that they don’t want him on their team because he’s an unlikable, immature douchebag that they don’t want around (assuming there isn’t hard evidence that it’s more than that)?

I mean, Barry Bonds went unsigned coming off of a 169 OPS+ season in 2007. That seemed like blackballing, but I guess clubs could have argued that they had legitimate reasons not to bring him in - he’s a dick, too much of a circus, etc.

Anyway, if such a suit came to pass, what evidence is required to win/settle? Simply being good enough to play in MLB doesn’t necessarily mean that you automatically get to play, right?

[kevwun 15758]

Ask Colin Kaepernick how that worked out for him.  Trevor is an asshole and teams don't want him in their locker rooms.  He doesn't have a right to pitch in MLB.

Edited June 21 by kevwun

[Chuckie Finster 22692]

 

 

[Beau Vine 54203]

8 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I know nothing about any of this - how difficult is it to “prove” some sort of collusion? Couldn’t clubs reasonably argue that they don’t want him on their team because he’s an unlikable, immature douchebag that they don’t want around (assuming there isn’t hard evidence that it’s more than that)?

When MLB lost the Collusion I, II, and III cases to the MLBPA in the 80's, they had memos, meeting minutes, etc discussing the collusion, and that was before everyone used email.

[Chuckie Finster 22692]

9 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Ask Colin Kaepernick how that worked out for him.  Trevor is an asshole and teams don't want him in their locker rooms.  He doesn't have a right to pitch in MLB.

Yeah, people who have been accused of much worse are still playing in the league.

He's unemployed because everybody who has ever met him fucking hates him.

[Hank Chinaski 6312]

Just now, Beau Vine said:

When MLB lost the Collusion I, II, and III cases to the MLBPA in the 80's, they had memos, meeting minutes, etc discussing the collusion, and that was before everyone used email.

Yeah, I mean if there is communication about it, that’s what I’d think of as “hard evidence,” and that would seem to be pretty damning. 

[Beau Vine 54203]

11 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Ask Colin Kaepernick how that worked out for him.  Trevor is an asshole and teams don't want him in their locker rooms.  He doesn't have a right to pitch in MLB.

Kaepernick got a settlement from the NFL, so...

[kevwun 15758]

He never played again though.  And he probably actually was colluded against.  Teams have kicked the tires on Trevor, but none have been able to bring themselves to sign him.

Edited June 21 by kevwun

[Chuckie Finster 22692]

He never played again though.  And he probably actually was colluded against.  Teams have kicked the tires on Trevor, but none have been able to bring themselves to sign him.

If he hadn’t spent so much time trolling the Astros, I firmly believe he’d be on their roster right now.

Knowing that he likely has had the same thought fills my heart with so much glee.

[Beau Vine 54203]

2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

He never played again though.  And he probably actually was colluded against.

If there's a grievance filed, Bauer's never going to play again, either.  The result of a lawsuit won't be an arbitrator mandating that someone sign him; it will be a great big check.  

 

[TejasPedro 1857]

Offer him the lowest amount allowed, have several morality clauses built into  the contract. Toss in a few gag balls and a gimp mask and be done with it. Tell his agent this is an audition for next year and roll the dice. 

Do the deal Brown.

[Serak The Preparer 3431]

21 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

 

It's obvious he meant to say "Provably" false allegations but if I recall correctly that is only true for one of the accuser. I'm not sure why Derka continues to white knight for this guy but there are still multiple accusers (I believe three more) who have claimed sexual assault. It's certainly possible that all four are bringing false allegations but I sure wouldn't want to be the ownership group or PR person trying to claim that as part of any signing. 

[freyguy 4259]

7 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:

It's obvious he meant to say "Provably" false allegations but if I recall correctly that is only true for one of the accuser. I'm not sure why Derka continues to white knight for this guy but there are still multiple accusers (I believe three more) who have claimed sexual assault. It's certainly possible that all four are bringing false allegations but I sure wouldn't want to be the ownership group or PR person trying to claim that as part of any signing. 

clearly you must not dabble in the Chris Beard thread....

[n64ra 1080]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

How? His last contract was 100M+ for 3 years before he got fucked. 

 

He's 33 so say he could get $33M per year today for the next decade. That's $330M, which is a far cry from $1B.

[boilerhorn 1371]

1 hour ago, n64ra said:

He's 33 so say he could get $33M per year today for the next decade. That's $330M, which is a far cry from $1B.

James's twitter probably auto-corrected "brazillion-dollar" to "billion-dollar."

1 hour ago, Serak The Preparer said:

It's obvious he meant to say "Provably" false allegations but if I recall correctly that is only true for one of the accuser. 

Likewise, Bauer's auto-correct converted "provably" to "probably."

[Derka 6136]

2 hours ago, Serak The Preparer said:

I'm not sure why Derka continues to white knight for this guy

it’s really how funny how every time i post an update some of you get upset and call it “white knighting.”

[Derka 6136]

gentleman, scholar, and all around best human being on the planet trevor bauer set a mexican league record with 19 ponches tonight, as only he can do. bauer, who is undoubtedly the greatest, best, and most talented pitcher on the planet, an inspiring speaker, and a sought after dinner guest, continues to face unprecedented persecution from major league baseball and its affiliates, a crime on par with the holocaust and the khmer rouge. all we can do now is pray that almighty god will forgive the mlb and its clubs for their dastardly, sickening, spiteful ways. may we all be blessed with the patience and virtue of st.trevor. amen.

 

[Snake Diggity 4619]

20 hours ago, immamac said:

How? His last contract was 100M+ for 3 years before he got fucked. 

 

How did he “get fucked”, exactly?  
 

It’s not collusion for all 30 MLB teams to not want to sign a guy who is a notorious douchebag and clubhouse cancer who also wasn’t that good in Japan and has admitted to doing shit to women that most people would find reprehensible even though not illegal.

[UTPhil2006 3801]

6 hours ago, definitely not derka said:

gentleman, scholar, and all around best human being on the planet trevor bauer set a mexican league record with 19 ponches tonight, as only he can do. bauer, who is undoubtedly the greatest, best, and most talented pitcher on the planet, an inspiring speaker, and a sought after dinner guest, continues to face unprecedented persecution from major league baseball and its affiliates, a crime on par with the holocaust and the khmer rouge. all we can do now is pray that almighty god will forgive the mlb and its clubs for their dastardly, sickening, spiteful ways. may we all be blessed with the patience and virtue of st.trevor. amen.

 

Good. Leave him there then sounds like he’s doing great 

[Snake Diggity 4619]

It’s telling that an independent arbitrator deemed Bauer’s conduct worthy of the longest suspension in league history.  It’s also telling that the MLBPA had no comment on that decision.  I don’t think anyone would argue that a player violating the league’s domestic violence policy is not a valid reason for teams not to sign a player.  Again, all these things can be true:

Bauer’s accusers are lying money grubbing whores.

Bauer is not a criminal.

Bauer is a piece of shit who violated the league’s domestic abuse policy and does not deserve an MLB contract.

Edited June 22 by Snake Diggity

[Serak The Preparer 3431]

7 hours ago, definitely not derka said:

gentleman, scholar, and all around best human being on the planet trevor bauer set a mexican league record with 19 ponches tonight, as only he can do. bauer, who is undoubtedly the greatest, best, and most talented pitcher on the planet, an inspiring speaker, and a sought after dinner guest, continues to face unprecedented persecution from major league baseball and its affiliates, a crime on par with the holocaust and the khmer rouge. all we can do now is pray that almighty god will forgive the mlb and its clubs for their dastardly, sickening, spiteful ways. may we all be blessed with the patience and virtue of st.trevor. amen.

 

[Scraps 13560]

Wasn't this guy supposed to be better than Goldschmidt or something?

[Mittens 8253]

Also blacklisted: Robinson Cano [allegedly] and his 30 game hit streak in Mexico

 

[WBT 20559]

When Luhnow first got to the Astros he signed a couple of guys from the Mexican league.  They never amounted to shit.

[petscii 1189]

I watch Bauer's youtube content on occasion (Japan stuff was more interesting btw) and remember him and Cole from UCLA back in the day.

His real problem is he's an asshole.  He used all his goodwill up during the spider tack bullshit (which was funny as fuck) a few years before he needed help with his pussy problems.  So I get why no one wants to waste any time on him.

 

 

[Derka 6136]

he’s labeled as an asshole, but baseball players are factually, irrefutably the biggest douchebags in the plant.the make 28 year old hedge fund managers look humble. that’s a fact. i am so, so, so grateful that Texas is above that shit. no handlebar mustaches, no john randle eye black, no crooked hats, none of the douchebaggery that permeates and really defines american baseball players.

my stance has always been that american players (gerrit cole for example) not liking bauer is suspect at best, and really a notch in his favor in the long run. is he douchey? yeah. he’s just a different type of douchey from your typical baseball player. at the end of the day bauer is cooler and more authentic than 90% of american baseball players, and their distaste for him only makes me like him more. 

[kevwun 15758]

If a group of assholes think you're an asshole, you must be one hell of an asshole.

[Derka 6136]

 

[Gourmand 7774]

On 7/20/2024 at 8:45 PM, WBT said:

When Luhnow first got to the Astros he signed a couple of guys from the Mexican league.  They never amounted to shit.

I remember Japhet Amador

[Rex Kramer 1331]

On 7/21/2024 at 2:26 AM, Derka said:

he’s labeled as an asshole, but baseball players are factually, irrefutably the biggest douchebags in the plant.the make 28 year old hedge fund managers look humble. that’s a fact. i am so, so, so grateful that Texas is above that shit. no handlebar mustaches, no john randle eye black, no crooked hats, none of the douchebaggery that permeates and really defines american baseball players.

my stance has always been that american players (gerrit cole for example) not liking bauer is suspect at best, and really a notch in his favor in the long run. is he douchey? yeah. he’s just a different type of douchey from your typical baseball player. at the end of the day bauer is cooler and more authentic than 90% of american baseball players, and their distaste for him only makes me like him more. 

This is the dumbest fucking post, approached by immamac’s assessment that $1B is a reasonable assessment for his worth for “getting fucked”. He didn’t get fucked. There was no collusion. I don’t give a fuck what he does in Mexico. Baseball players aren’t douchebags. Jesus what nonsense. 

I can’t understand anyone who wastes time even thinking about supporting this guy. 

[Derka 6136]

40 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

He didn’t get fucked. There was no collusion

her texts about extorting him/colluding with two friends (including a jealous former mlb player) are public. she claimed he beat the shit out of her on a specific date, except that she took now-public photos of her, perfectly healthy and u touched, laying in bed with a sleeping bauer the morning after the alleged beating. don’t know where you got your info from, but stop going there.

[Derka 6136]

ok i’m up late and i’m just now realizing that you were probably talking about the mlb colluding to not sign him. i don’t really care about that and haven’t opined on that. of course they don’t want him back, and they don’t have to collude to all feel that way. none of that has anything to do with my posts about bauer, which simply point out that people don’t like him for fake reasons, or reasons they aren’t willing to admit. and that’s a fact. you don’t have to like him, just stop acting like he’s a shittier person or a bigger douchebag than a million other mlb players. 

[petscii 1189]

42 minutes ago, Derka said:

ok i’m up late and i’m just now realizing that you were probably talking about the mlb colluding to not sign him. i don’t really care about that and haven’t opined on that. of course they don’t want him back, and they don’t have to collude to all feel that way. none of that has anything to do with my posts about bauer, which simply point out that people don’t like him for fake reasons, or reasons they aren’t willing to admit. and that’s a fact. you don’t have to like him, just stop acting like he’s a shittier person or a bigger douchebag than a million other mlb players. 

People don't like him because he's an asshole, how is that a fake reason?

[Derka 6136]

11 minutes ago, petscii said:

People don't like him because he's an asshole, how is that a fake reason?

first off, how is he an asshole? second, baseball fans outwardly, viscerally, passionately hate trevor bauer in a way that is reserved for him and only him. are you gonna tell me that he’s the biggest POS in the entire mlb? because that’s how he gets treated. there are bigger douchebags in every clubhouse; bigger assholes too. plenty of liars and cheaters as well. cheaters who bauer called out for years, one of the reasons he’s disliked by other players. he’s more disliked than joe kelly, aroldis chapman, and aubrey huff combined. for what? because he warms up like a goofball and because gerrit cole doesn’t like him? because he’s down for rough sex when his partner requests it (something that came out years after he was the most hated man in baseball)? i’m sorry, but the reality of who trevor bauer is does not come close to living up to the hype. the mlb not wanting to sign him makes sense; the disproportionate hatred he gets from fans doesn’t.

Edited August 16 by Derka

[Rex Kramer 1331]

1 hour ago, Derka said:

her texts about extorting him/colluding with two friends (including a jealous former mlb player) are public. she claimed he beat the shit out of her on a specific date, except that she took now-public photos of her, perfectly healthy and u touched, laying in bed with a sleeping bauer the morning after the alleged beating. don’t know where you got your info from, but stop going there.

I’m 100% positive. I’m not talking about his criminal allegations. I don’t care about that. I’m talking about MLB collusion. It’s fiction. He may get some settlement, but it won’t approach $1B, and he’ll never play in MLB again. He’s a cancer. Your opinion sucks. 

[hobbes2702 13028]

19 minutes ago, Derka said:

first off, how is he an asshole? second, baseball fans outwardly, viscerally, passionately hate trevor bauer in a way that is reserved for him and only him. are you gonna tell me that he’s the biggest POS in the entire mlb? because that’s how he gets treated. there are bigger douchebags in every clubhouse; bigger assholes too. plenty of liars and cheaters as well. cheaters who bauer called out for years, one of the reasons he’s disliked by other players. he’s more disliked than joe kelly, aroldis chapman, and aubrey huff combined. for what? because he warms up like a goofball and because gerrit cole doesn’t like him? because he’s down for rough sex when his partner requests it (something that came out years after he was the most hated man in baseball)? i’m sorry, but the reality of who trevor bauer is does not come close to living up to the hype. the mlb not wanting to sign him makes sense; the disproportionate hatred he gets from fans doesn’t.

[runthebone 7966]

A personal endorsement from Derka could be what Bauer needs to break this case wide open.  It's worth at least a billion.

[Rex Kramer 1331]

1 hour ago, Derka said:

ok i’m up late and i’m just now realizing that you were probably talking about the mlb colluding to not sign him. i don’t really care about that and haven’t opined on that. of course they don’t want him back, and they don’t have to collude to all feel that way. none of that has anything to do with my posts about bauer, which simply point out that people don’t like him for fake reasons, or reasons they aren’t willing to admit. and that’s a fact. you don’t have to like him, just stop acting like he’s a shittier person or a bigger douchebag than a million other mlb players. 

I know enough about him to know he is a shittier person in MANY respects than the vast majority of MLB players and perhaps all of them. People dislike him for very valid reasons. Fake reasons. GTFO with this “my opinion, even though it’s highly contrarian, is “fact” and everyone else is crazy” bullshit. It’s typical Derka delusion. 

[petscii 1189]

6 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

I know enough about him to know he is a shittier person in MANY respects than the vast majority of MLB players and perhaps all of them. People dislike him for very valid reasons. Fake reasons. GTFO with this “my opinion, even though it’s highly contrarian, is “fact” and everyone else is crazy” bullshit. It’s typical Derka delusion. 

I watch his videos on youtube, he's funny.  I saw him pitch with Cole at UCLA.  I'd be fine if he were an Astro. I also don't think he "deserves" to play MLB if they don't want him. I assume he will be a college coach at some point as he seems fairly intelligent about pitching.  I would not ride in a car with him for any measurable distance...

I think Derka only likes him because he thinks everyone else hates him and it's a way for Derka to draw attention to himself in the victim position he so desperately covets...