Origins of the Global Pandemic

[Nicole44 22072]

I fucked up the Daily Texan with my thoughts. Is it okay to be pissed off at China? Their government? 

[Neonmoon 38130]

Just now, Nicole44 said:

I fucked up the Daily Texan with my thoughts. Is it okay to be pissed off at China? Their government? 

Yes, it is. They continue to obstruct the investigation. They orchestrated a cover-up of not just origin, but severity in their own country. Only 4,000 dead? Yeah right. They can get fucked. 

[David Dennison 18943]

I honestly don't care where or how it started.

[Nicole44 22072]

Y’all do know that China and Russia are besties? 

[Nicole44 22072]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

I honestly don't care where or how it started.

Bullshit.

[conVINCEd 21469]

I thought it was because some guy fucked a bat.

[David Dennison 18943]

Whatever. I really couldn't care less. 

[Royalfan5 2354]

Just now, David Dennison said:

I honestly don't care where or how it started.

I’m really only concerned about how we deal with the situation at hand, and given that we can’t stop stepping on our collective dicks on that front, and I can’t imagine how spending a bunch of time trying find something to blame is going to a constructive use of time. 

[hookemATL 11807]

Just now, conVINCEd said:

I thought it was because some guy fucked a bat.

[Nicole44 22072]

4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Yes, it is. They continue to obstruct the investigation. They orchestrated a cover-up of not just origin, but severity in their own country. Only 4,000 dead? Yeah right. They can get fucked. 

I love you. It’s the country song. 

[David Dennison 18943]

Just now, Royalfan5 said:

I’m really only concerned about how we deal with the situation at hand, and given that we can’t stop stepping on our collective dicks on that front, and I can’t imagine how spending a bunch of time trying find something to blame is going to a constructive use of time. 

Bingo.

[Homercles 10206]

Anxiously awaiting fatty to come in here from the vaccine thread. 

[Nicole44 22072]

I want to get all my angst out. Now! 
 

This was created in a lab. I’m guessing they had an accident m. Not intentional. But fuck them. Their government, not the people. Most of the posters across the board here are awesome. 

[Nicole44 22072]

11 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I love you. It’s the country song. 

Guessing you never listened to that artist but try❤️

[Hookah Horns 3083]

17 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

I thought it was because some guy fucked a bat.

Nah I heard it was a pangolin. 

[F250 28808]

The world should know the origin of the virus and China should be on the hook for the economic damages caused by Covid. Now that we are over a year into the pandemic the U.S., E.U. and our allies should pressure China for transparency and reparations.

 

[David Dennison 18943]

2 minutes ago, F250 said:

The world should know the origin of the virus and China should be on the hook for the economic damages caused by Covid. Now that we are over a year into the pandemic the U.S., E.U. and our allies should pressure China for transparency and reparations.

You want to change China's behavior?

Stop buying Chinese made goods.

Neither reparations nor economic damages are coming.

[Anastasis 23481]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

The world should know the origin of the virus and China should be on the hook for the economic damages caused by Covid. Now that we are over a year into the pandemic the U.S., E.U. and our allies should pressure China for transparency and reparations.

But orange man bad!

 

Chinese lab shit the bed. Who could have seen that coming. They covered it up. Who could have seen that coming. We funded the work. We failed to practice even minimal oversight. The results have been that a bunch of scientists made fools out of themselves in attempt to save their golden goose. Bottom line just stop sending money to China to conduct dangerous research in substandard labs with no oversight and transparency. 

[David Dennison 18943]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

But orange man bad!

 

Chinese lab shit the bed. Who could have seen that coming. They covered it up. Who could have seen that coming. We funded the work. We failed to practice even minimal oversight. The results have been that a bunch of scientists made fools out of themselves in attempt to save their golden goose. Bottom line just stop sending money to China to conduct dangerous research in substandard labs with no oversight and transparency. 

The orange man is bad. Even you know that.

[Anastasis 23481]

Just now, David Dennison said:

The orange man is bad. Even you know that.

Case in point. 

[F250 28808]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You want to change China's behavior?

Stop buying Chinese made goods.

Neither reparations nor economic damages are coming.

Yes, China's behavior can be influenced through economic policies. I doubt that Biden has it in him to rock the boat so I agree nothing will be done.

[Hookah Horns 3083]

I can't believe people in charge of public health ever thought gain of function research was a super awesome idea. It sounds like a plot device from a cheesy sci fi movie. 

[Anastasis 23481]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

I agree nothing will be done.

Bottom line is bottom line. 

[Anastasis 23481]

Just now, Hookah Horns said:

I can't believe people in charge of public health ever thought gain of function research was a super awesome idea. It sounds like a plot device from a cheesy sci fi movie. 

[David Dennison 18943]

We should probably try tariffs. 

[David Dennison 18943]

And just like that, this thread is both sides'd.

[Anastasis 23481]

Just now, David Dennison said:

And just like that, this thread is both sides'd.

[Brian Fantana 6690]

2 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

I can't believe people in charge of public health ever thought gain of function research was a super awesome idea. It sounds like a plot device from a cheesy sci fi movie. 

Gain of function doesn't mean create killer monster super death bug. God, people are stupid.

[workswithseed 2109]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

[F250 28808]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Case in point. 

This. It was obvious that the orange man was using Chyna as a distraction to his incompetence.
However that doesn't mean that Chinese responsibility should be overlooked. Unfortunately, some have gone so far down the "orange man bad" rabbit hole they can't address this topic in a reasonable manner.

 

[David Dennison 18943]

Just now, Anastasis said:

I have no illusions about the nefariousness of the United States government, thank you very much. 

[David Dennison 18943]

Just now, F250 said:

This. It was obvious that the orange man was using Chyna as a distraction to his incompetence.
However that doesn't mean that Chinese responsibility should be overlooked. Unfortunately, some have gone so far down the "orange man bad" rabbit hole they can't address this topic in a reasonable manner.

 

There is no way to address it. We are that economically dependent on China. 

[Hookah Horns 3083]

1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

Gain of function doesn't mean create killer monster super death bug. God, people are stupid.

Did I say that it necessarily does, dumbass? 

It's obviously a risk of doing it. 

[Surly Bevo 25100]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

There is no way to address it. We are that economically dependent on China. 

And it's not exactly new

 

[Underdog 28762]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

But orange man bad!

[David Dennison 18943]

OK, team. Let's hear some thoughts on how we are going to punish China for saddling us with COVID without destroying our own consumer based economy.

 

[F250 28808]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

There is no way to address it. We are that economically dependent on China. 

As I said earlier, the U.S., E.U. and our allies can address this. While China is too strong for the U.S. to battle alone without harming our own economy, China's economy isn't strong enough to deal with all the Western Liberal Democracies if they are united in their actions.

 

[Nicole44 22072]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

OK, team. Let's hear some thoughts on how we are going to punish China for saddling us with COVID without destroying our own consumer based economy.

 

Purchasing power. And yes them a lot in the nostrils with no lube.

[Nicole44 22072]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

As I said earlier, the U.S., E.U. and our allies can address this. While China is too strong for the U.S. to battle alone without harming our own economy, China's economy isn't strong enough to deal with all the Western Liberal Democracies if they are united in their actions.

 

Globally we refuse to acknowledge that they contribute the most to climate issues. They caused the global pandemic and yet we are their bitches.

[F250 28808]

Well that was fast. Welcome to the CR. lulz

[David Dennison 18943]

Just now, F250 said:

As I said earlier, the U.S., E.U. and our allies can address this. While China is too strong for the U.S. to battle alone without harming our own economy, China's economy isn't strong enough to deal with all the Western Liberal Democracies if they are united in their actions.

Can all of those western liberal democracies handle the kind of price shocks that would go with a trade war with China?

[Surly Bevo 25100]

I think there is a fair chance that China fucked up (unintentionally) and started all this.  I think that it is something worth investigating and having a serious discussion about, if for nothing else to figure out some proactive steps to take to try and mitigate that fuck up risk in the future (let's face it, we ain't gonna stop studying viruses and neither are they). 

That said I also know you don't spend a lot of time when you are the fire chief talking about or worrying about the arson investigation to come when the skyscraper is still in the middle of burning down.

The idea anybody is punishing China over this is laughable...again let's just figure out if there is anything to be done to stop it from happening again once we put this fucking fire out.  

[F250 28808]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Can all of those western liberal democracies handle the kind of price shocks that would go with a trade war with China?

LOL you are arguing with me as if I am advocating a Trumpkin trade war.

TDS bro.

 

[Royalfan5 2354]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Can all of those western liberal democracies handle the kind of price shocks that would go with a trade war with China?

Because if anything this pandemic has showed us is that people here will quietly tolerate shortages and inconvenience as part of a perceived greater good, right? 

[David Dennison 18943]

So, who wants to stop buying Chinese sourced goods first?

Just now, F250 said:

LOL you are arguing with me as if I am advocating a Trumpkin trade war.

TDS bro.

 

What do you suggest we do to show our collective displeasure and how do you propose we deal with the inevitable retaliation?

[Nicole44 22072]

It started in a got damn lab. Either intentionally or not. That’s what I’m trying to figure out. It wasn’t a bat biting a pangolin. Because that’s what the fucking want you to think.

[F250 28808]

1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

I think that it is something worth investigating and having a serious discussion about, if for nothing else to figure out some proactive steps to take to try and mitigate that fuck up risk in the future (let's face it, we ain't gonna stop studying viruses and neither are they). 

This. A root cause must be determined if the world wants to avoid a repeat. China is not known for being transparent nor cooperative so obviously a stick instead of a carrot must be used.

 

[Nicole44 22072]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

So, who wants to stop buying Chinese sourced goods first?

What do you suggest we do to show our collective displeasure and how do you propose we deal with the inevitable retaliation?

Kill their government. Swift strike and kill Russia’s government too. 

[F250 28808]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

So, who wants to stop buying Chinese sourced goods first?

What do you suggest we do to show our collective displeasure and how do you propose we deal with the inevitable retaliation?

What I will do is avoid engaging your CR trolling shit posting.

[F250 28808]

Just now, Nicole44 said:

Kill their government. Swift strike and kill Russia’s government too.