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30 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Political Theatre. They don’t have the votes and they know it. 

Yep even in certain circles it's like, "Charles Perry chose this to start actually doing something?"

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We'll see a consolidation of other systems into the UT or A&M systems long before the PUF is divided up among other schools.  

THECB wisely points out that a state of our limited government doesn't need 7 university systems.  It needs 4, at most.  One day, you might see UT System take 60%, A&M System take 30%, and a system to be named later take 10% or the Tech and Texas state systems each get 5%; something like that.  That's the only compromise on the horizon.  

Honestly, what fucking purpose does a UH or UNT System serve?  Either make the Tech or Texas State Systems the other "big one" and be fucking done with it.  And then you've got that goofy 7th one with SFA, TxSouthernU, and TWU that consolidates itself for purchasing 'n shit.  They may as well fall under another larger system like Tech or Texas State.  They could all cut so much administrative bloat and have more pull with regard to faculty and athletics and negotiating.  

Half the fucking idiots in the Capitol clamoring for shit like this don't even know their alma maters (Tech, UH, et. al.) are part of larger systems.  So even if they got a portion of the PUF, it would first go to a system AUF, then administered by the bloated executive team at their own system, then trickle down at maybe 51% of what's left over for them and then the rest to medical centers and other affiliated campuses within their system.  You don't just "get $500mm from the PUF."  That's now it works, you'd think these fucking guys would at least research that part before sending out bills.  Then again same dipshits that think ERCOT's humming along just fine.  

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1 hour ago, Lobo said:

We'll see a consolidation of other systems into the UT or A&M systems long before the PUF is divided up among other schools.  

THECB wisely points out that a state of our limited government doesn't need 7 university systems.  It needs 4, at most.  One day, you might see UT System take 60%, A&M System take 30%, and a system to be named later take 10% or the Tech and Texas state systems each get 5%; something like that.  That's the only compromise on the horizon.  

Honestly, what fucking purpose does a UH or UNT System serve?  Either make the Tech or Texas State Systems the other "big one" and be fucking done with it.  And then you've got that goofy 7th one with SFA, TxSouthernU, and TWU that consolidates itself for purchasing 'n shit.  They may as well fall under another larger system like Tech or Texas State.  They could all cut so much administrative bloat and have more pull with regard to faculty and athletics and negotiating.  

Half the fucking idiots in the Capitol clamoring for shit like this don't even know their alma maters (Tech, UH, et. al.) are part of larger systems.  So even if they got a portion of the PUF, it would first go to a system AUF, then administered by the bloated executive team at their own system, then trickle down at maybe 51% of what's left over for them and then the rest to medical centers and other affiliated campuses within their system.  You don't just "get $500mm from the PUF."  That's now it works, you'd think these fucking guys would at least research that part before sending out bills.  Then again same dipshits that think ERCOT's humming along just fine.  

100% this, except I think even 4 is too many.  UT, aggy and Texas State is really all the state would need.

Have the University of Houston join UT’s system (the city deserves a UT managed University).  UH is already getting NRUF funding and joining the UT system would assist them in getting more funding and we could theoretically merge them with UT health science center Houston to give them even more of a leg up. Toss UH-Victoria to aggy to merge with A&M Corpus.

Have Tech join the UT system.  Tech and their health science center in Lubbock will benefit greatly from joining UT, and the El Paso Health Science Center can merge in with UTEP.  Tech is also already getting NRUF funding and is the only other area of Texas (other than Houston) that does not have a UT system school in the panhandle region (UTPB is like 2 hours South).  Midwestern State and San Angelo State can join the Texas State system (or aggy if they want them).

UNT’s system should just merge into aggy, they should have a bigger presence in DFW.

SFA, Texas Southern and TWU should just be in the Texas State system.

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10 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

100% this, except I think even 4 is too many.  UT, aggy and Texas State is really all the state would need.

Have the University of Houston join UT’s system (the city deserves a UT managed University).  UH is already getting NRUF funding and joining the UT system would assist them in getting more funding and we could theoretically merge them with UT health science center Houston to give them even more of a leg up. Toss UH-Victoria to aggy to merge with A&M Corpus.

Have Tech join the UT system.  Tech and their health science center in Lubbock will benefit greatly from joining UT, and the El Paso Health Science Center can merge in with UTEP.  Tech is also already getting NRUF funding and is the only other area of Texas (other than Houston) that does not have a UT system school in the panhandle region (UTPB is like 2 hours South).  Midwestern State and San Angelo State can join the Texas State system (or aggy if they want them).

UNT’s system should just merge into aggy, they should have a bigger presence in DFW.

SFA, Texas Southern and TWU should just be in the Texas State system.

California got it right:

1) UC tier: elite research universities, high admission standards

2) Cal state tier:  Teaching-focused colleges, moderate to low admissions standards

3) Community Colleges

How we ended up with 7 systems in a smaller state bottles the mind.

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6 hours ago, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

California got it right:

1) UC tier: elite research universities, high admission standards

2) Cal state tier:  Teaching-focused colleges, moderate to low admissions standards

3) Community Colleges

How we ended up with 7 systems in a smaller state bottles the mind.

Because we're a state that believes in low administrative overhead, eliminating bureaucracy, limited government, best results, world-class research and intellectual talent to attract better businesses, and just general awesomeness!  

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