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54 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

I think this is telling. Because your value system is different, you mock and deride someone else’s legitimate beliefs and how they inform behavior. If the Mike Pence haters who engage in ugliness were disagreed with, with even half the derision of “moronic and deserves to be mocked” then you’d never hear the end of discrimination and horrible injustice. Think of the situations the left supports and input that kind of language in opposition of those (like Pence’s, too) legitimate beliefs and values and you see what I mean.

This idea that those on the right don't mock us on the left is hilarious nonsense. They do it all the time. You just don't see it here as much because their mocking is extremely stupid "durrrr it's cold in December how can libruls believe in global warming hahaha!" nonsense and they're too embarrassed to drop that shit except among themselves.

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Yep. I mock the left of 2018.  It’s gone hard left and is dominated by socialists and by identity politics. I think most are children.  Someone with Bill Clinton’s 90s platform wouldn’t have a seat at the table in 2018

Both sides mock. 

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28 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

This idea that those on the right don't mock us on the left is hilarious nonsense. They do it all the time. You just don't see it here as much because their mocking is extremely stupid "durrrr it's cold in December how can libruls believe in global warming hahaha!" nonsense and they're too embarrassed to drop that shit except among themselves.

Oh it's  true ,  the left is ripe for mocking. Just as easy to mock left as it is the right.  Both sides fringes are idiots.  

 

 

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Yep. I mock the left of 2018.  It’s gone hard left and is dominated by socialists and by identity politics. I think most are children.  Someone with Bill Clinton’s 90s platform wouldn’t have a seat at the table in 2018

Both sides mock. 

Bullshit.  The right went right so hard during and after Bush II that it is unrecognizable, except for its embrace of racism, nativism, fundamentalist Christianity...and its repudiation of science and education.  With "RINO" the litmus test went full right retard, closer to Alt-right than country club fiscal conservatism.   And all of the orange dick sucking adherents left on board the GOP think that the other side has gone "hard left", when in reality the opposite has occurred. 

They think the world is rushing by them, when in reality it's just their clown car rolling down hill. 

 

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Bullshit.  The right went right so hard during and after Bush II that it is unrecognizable, except for its embrace of racism, nativism, fundamentalist Christianity...and its repudiation of science and education.  With "RINO" the litmus test went full right retard, closer to Alt-right than country club fiscal conservatism.   And all of the orange dick sucking adherents left on board the GOP think that the other side has gone "hard left", when in reality the opposite has occurred. 

They think the world is rushing by them, when in reality it's just their clown car rolling down hill. 

 

Jesus Christ. Full retard. From a smart guy. 

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Jesus Christ. Full retard. From a smart guy. 

When the GOP took in the Southern Dixie-crats, it took in the fine church going people from a tradition of going to church on Sunday (and a couple more times a week), using yes ma'am and no Sir.  With that came the whole racist, nativist tendencies.   The guys who hung the n***** on Saturday night were always back in their pews on Sunday.    When Rove perfected the pitch to the white guys that involved flags and queers and welfare queens it was on like Donkey Kong.   The present day is the fruition of that strategy.  

Which is why so-called Evangelicals support the shit-show that is Trump.   Many of the biggest haters of Mooslims are fervent self proclaimed Evangelical Christians.  Nobody can hate a brown person with a different religion and country half as well as a Southern Evangelical.   Burning Bush out front playing Freebird shoulda told ya.

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Love Jesus all you want but lay off the hate, read the parable of the Good Samaritan and the Beatitudes and the early revelations Moses received and you’ll be better for it. Loving God and your neighbor is a bad ass theology and if pence thinks avoiding meetings with women one on one lifts them up in love then he’s delusional because all it does is perpetuate a men’s only club of power. It’s active and real discrimination. And it’s absolutely ok to call it what it is - a clear and present danger to many.

I don't think Pence avoids private meetings with women for any nefarious reasons...quite the opposite.  And I think it's smart for multiple reasons...

It's a reality that there are no shortage of women who would throw themselves at a man with power, influence, money, or position.  To deny that is a fools errand to defend. 

Even if Pence resists the temptation...it doesn't mean he can't be accused of it regardless.  Which we also know happens.  And we all know who will be believed...and it's not Pence or any man in that position.  

It also removes others from insinuating that is what happens..."Oh, she got a promotion all right!  And we all know how that happened!"  Women are their own worst enemy on this front...how many times have you heard that in a work environment?   There's always gossip and it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

The funniest part about this is the bitching comes from leftists that don't believe Pence has anything to teach or offer...yet are highly offended and sure he's denying someone opportunity by not meeting with them one on one in private.  

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I don't think Pence avoids private meetings with women for any nefarious reasons...quite the opposite.  And I think it's smart for multiple reasons... It's a reality that there are no shortage of women who would throw themselves at a man with power, influence, money, or position.  To deny that is a fools errand to defend.  Even if Pence resists the temptation...it doesn't mean he can't be accused of it regardless.  Which we also know happens.  And we all know who will be believed...and it's not Pence or any man in that position.   It also removes others from insinuating that is what happens..."Oh, she got a promotion all right!  And we all know how that happened!"  Women are their own worst enemy on this front...how many times have you heard that in a work environment?   There's always gossip and it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

The funniest part about this is the bitching comes from leftists that don't believe Pence has anything to teach or offer...yet are highly offended and sure he's denying someone opportunity by not meeting with them one on one in private.  

 

 

 

  His primary reason is to “avoid temptation.” I was raised in religious circles similar to the one he still runs in. It’s degrading to women and it’s a form of sexual objectification. And the fact that it’s still okay to have his views in 2018 is unreal.

 

 

This approach is exclusionary to women when a one on one meeting is appropriate. If men won’t meet with me one on one I lose business, period. It’s a fucked up antiquated approach to professional relationships.

 

 

 And if you do go down this line a little further it’s the women who are much more likely to be victims and yet women can’t afford to avoid meeting with men one on one in professional settings. 70% of my clients are men, if I said no to them out of fear I’d be out of business.

 

And there’s nothing to say a two guy one woman meeting isn’t sexual either. She says she got trained and you boys collude and say no way. Seems absurd right? So is excluding women from dozens of scenarios where one on ones are appropriate. Men have casual one on one convos all the time, lawyer client, account management convos, performance reviews, confiding with one another about a difficult situation, etc. telling women the fear of wanting to fuck you is too much we can’t meet without a witness is professional horseshit.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

When the GOP took in the Southern Dixie-crats, it took in the fine church going people from a tradition of going to church on Sunday (and a couple more times a week), using yes ma'am and no Sir.  With that came the whole racist, nativist tendencies.   The guys who hung the n***** on Saturday night were always back in their pews on Sunday.    When Rove perfected the pitch to the white guys that involved flags and queers and welfare queens it was on like Donkey Kong.   The present day is the fruition of that strategy.  

Which is why so-called Evangelicals support the shit-show that is Trump.   Many of the biggest haters of Mooslims are fervent self proclaimed Evangelical Christians.  Nobody can hate a brown person with a different religion and country half as well as a Southern Evangelical.   Burning Bush out front playing Freebird shoulda told ya.

That just isn’t true. The last three GOP candidates for president were McCain, Romney and Trump.  They’re all liberal for a GOP candidate. 

Bernie Sanders, a socialist, wouldn’t have gotten more than 5 percent of the dem primary vote 30 years ago.  In 2016 he was a force. There aren’t any Charlie Stenholms in the Democrat party anymore. It’s taken over by socialists and those with a hard on for identity politics.  Look at Bill Clinton’s platform and accomplishments. He’d be called a racist by the modern left. 

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15 years ago all Democrats were die hard about securing the border. 

Hell, 10 years ago even Obama said he'd do it. 

 

 

But there is no doubt that JFK wouldn't get 10% of DNC primary votes today.  Which is why I laugh when people say Reagan couldn't win in the GOP today...I think he still could.  

I agree that Trump is much more liberal than people on either side will admit.  He's a NYC conservative...which is everyone who's right of Mao.  What put Trump over the top was IMHO a combination of hitting key concerns (economy, border security) and his clear willingness to stand up to people...be it the GOP, the MSM, or the Democrats. 

 

  

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But there is no doubt that JFK wouldn't get 10% of DNC primary votes today.

That's interesting that you brought JFK up.  Some friends ( a mixture of moderate left and right folks) and I were talking recently (we had the Senate primary here in WV) and one thing that was brought up was the "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" line and how that just seems to be forgotten now as politicians from both sides just want to promise more and more programs or jobs or any fix for any problem any group has.  Throw more and more money at it.   Sen Byrd was our pusher/dealer here and he hooked an entire poor, lower educated state.  Yea, JFK probably couldn't get a whiff of the office with what was on either platform in '60.  

Earlier in the thread someone mentioned something about Bill Clinton.  I believe that if he had been able to run again in 2016, that he would have wiped the floor with record vote percentage and  a huge bigly electoral college over Trump even with his personal warts/failings.

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55 minutes ago, XR4ticlone said:

15 years ago all Democrats were die hard about securing the border. 

Hell, 10 years ago even Obama said he'd do it. 

 

 

But there is no doubt that JFK wouldn't get 10% of DNC primary votes today.  Which is why I laugh when people say Reagan couldn't win in the GOP today...I think he still could.  

I agree that Trump is much more liberal than people on either side will admit.  He's a NYC conservative...which is everyone who's right of Mao.  What put Trump over the top was IMHO a combination of hitting key concerns (economy, border security) and his clear willingness to stand up to people...be it the GOP, the MSM, or the Democrats. 

 

  

Of course you do...you're a fucking idiot. 

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1 hour ago, Whitman said:

That's interesting that you brought JFK up.  Some friends ( a mixture of moderate left and right folks) and I were talking recently (we had the Senate primary here in WV) and one thing that was brought up was the "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" line and how that just seems to be forgotten now as politicians from both sides just want to promise more and more programs or jobs or any fix for any problem any group has.  Throw more and more money at it.   Sen Byrd was our pusher/dealer here and he hooked an entire poor, lower educated state.  Yea, JFK probably couldn't get a whiff of the office with what was on either platform in '60.  

Earlier in the thread someone mentioned something about Bill Clinton.  I believe that if he had been able to run again in 2016, that he would have wiped the floor with record vote percentage and  a huge bigly electoral college over Trump even with his personal warts/failings.

If Clinton ran as a new candidate in 2016 with his 1992 platform, he’d have no chance at being in the top 50 of Dem nominees.  

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7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Your party's top two were Hillary and Bernie.  Take the plank out of your own eye. 

 

8 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Your party's top two were Hillary and Bernie.  Take the plank out of your own eye. 

 

7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

How much have you drank today?

Not enough, and I voted for kasich.  

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1 minute ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

It’s all good Johnny my boy.   

Glad to hear.  We’d probably get along in real life.

We finished batting practice as POLL playoffs are ongoing. My crew and I are swimming in the pool and grilling some swordfish me and some friends caught a few months ago.  About to open a bottle of Sancerre.  I’m out for the night. 

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5 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Glad to hear.  We’d probably get along in real life.

We finished batting practice as POLL playoffs are ongoing. My crew and I are swimming in the pool and grilling some swordfish me and some friends caught a few months ago.  About to open a bottle of Sancerre.  I’m out for the night. 

I’m sure we would.  I love fishing. 

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3 hours ago, RayDog said:

Beliefs are not rational thought.

 

Most accepted theories are based on some empirical evidence and/or convincing circumstantial evidence—like the theory of evolution, for example. So, if one believes in evolution—and that belief is based on evidence which supports the theory of evolution—how is that belief not rational?

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"Believing in evolution" is a misnomer that I wish would go away. No one "believes" in evolution. Evolution is simply a provable fact of nature that has been observed countless times. Creationists like to label it as a "belief" to prop up idiotic anti-science arguments when it is nothing of the sort.

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19 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

"Believing in evolution" is a misnomer that I wish would go away. No one "believes" in evolution. Evolution is simply a provable fact of nature that has been observed countless times. Creationists like to label it as a "belief" to prop up idiotic anti-science arguments when it is nothing of the sort.

Most believers I know don’t really care. We figure God kicked it off regardless of what the current version of science thinks.  I believe evolution is the current best explanation.   

It had to start somewhere.  

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4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Most believers I know don’t really care. We figure God kicked it off regardless of what the current version of science thinks.  I believe evolution is the current best explanation.   

It had to start somewhere.  

Yeah, this. I know literally nobody that doesn’t believe in evolution. I don’t know why creation and evolution cannot coexist. 

Having said that I drove by that crazy church in Glen Rose near the dinosaur park, so I know these people exist. 

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