Dallas Cowboys 2021 Regular Season Thread -- Money, Masks, & Masochism

[tokamak 6352]

2 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

He's already showing that he's a special type of player. It's crazy.

 

Listening to Ross Tucker on the radio just now. Said he was at Micah Parsons first game in high school and he was playing as a freshman. Had 5 sacks. Penn St offered him a scholarship by his 4th game his freshman year in high school.

This made me curious so I looked it up - Parsons was the #5 overall recruit in 2018.

Top 2 recruits that year were Lawrence and Fields. #6 was Patrick Surtain.

[Get ln My Van 927]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I saw a perfect comp.... Clay Matthews, who could play edge and come down and play ILB.  Great comp there.  Matthews at his height was probably a top 5 defensive player.

I think Von Miller is a decent comp as well

[Pam Cummings 9581]

3 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

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Pollard is the best back on the Cowboys, feels like Zeke will be gonezo after this year.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

17 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Pollard is the best back on the Cowboys, feels like Zeke will be gonezo after this year.

Any way we can trade him? I have no idea what his contract looks like and what the market for a declining RB would be. I like the 2 RB system we have. We can keep both of them fresh. Both bring different things to the table. Pollard is more of a scat back who can get us the big plays. Zeke can get the tougher yards. 

[Vic Mackey 46936]

Hahaha

[Gene Parmesan 3993]

7 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Any way we can trade him? I have no idea what his contract looks like and what the market for a declining RB would be. I like the 2 RB system we have. We can keep both of them fresh. Both bring different things to the table. Pollard is more of a scat back who can get us the big plays. Zeke can get the tougher yards. 

I agree turning Pollard into a workhorse wouldn't be the answer.  Offload Zeke and get someone cheaper to get the tough yards.  There is no market for Zeke with his current contract. 

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

Pollard is the best back on the Cowboys, feels like Zeke will be gonezo after this year.

Very doubtful.  We already restructured his deal.  Zeke is very likely here next year and probably 2023 as well.  FWIW, Zeke has played really well the first two games but Pollard has juice or explosiveness that Zeke (or most guys) doesn't possess.  I don't think Pollard could hold up to 325-350 touches per year consistently but he's been playing great.  Needs to be a bit wiser in when he decides to take out kick returns though.  SD goaded him into taking it out on the final drive and he took the bait and he barely got to the 25 and we took a penalty to put us around the 10 yard line.  It's not the first time he's done this.

[Hermanator 6944]

When is Pollard's deal up? Wonder what he'll be asking for when they guy he's better than with the ball in his hands got a massive deal

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

6 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

When is Pollard's deal up? Wonder what he'll be asking for when they guy he's better than with the ball in his hands got a massive deal

After next year.  It's important to remind folks that the running back UFA market is lacking these days.  Most teams (outside of the Cowboys) have learned that RBs are extremely fungible.  The last big FA deal where a guy changed teams was Bell and that was a disaster.  Money is better used at other positions.  This will probably create a very limited market for Pollard.  Not saying he wouldn't jump, but the money probably won't be enormous.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

We also do not rely on the RB like we used to. Zeke and Murray were bell cow RBs and the offense went as they did. Especially Dak's rookie year. Now, this offense goes as Dak goes and we pass much more and are more efficient at it. We do not need a high dollar RB any longer who carries the offense like we used to. This offense has a much different look and feel than it did early on under Dak. If Pollard wants too much money, we can go draft his replacement. I like what he has done so far but I hope this front office has learned about overpaying for RBs. Pollard's replacement can be found with ease in any given draft.

My main question is what do we do at WR? Gallup's rookie deal is nearing an end. I doubt we can or should pay big contracts to Amari, Gallup and Lamb. I would think Gallup would be on the outside looking in, right? 

[Trey3216 15325]

9 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

We also do not rely on the RB like we used to. Zeke and Murray were bell cow RBs and the offense went as they did. Especially Dak's rookie year. Now, this offense goes as Dak goes and we pass much more and are more efficient at it. We do not need a high dollar RB any longer who carries the offense like we used to. This offense has a much different look and feel than it did early on under Dak. If Pollard wants too much money, we can go draft his replacement. I like what he has done so far but I hope this front office has learned about overpaying for RBs. Pollard's replacement can be found with ease in any given draft.

My main question is what do we do at WR? Gallup's rookie deal is nearing an end. I doubt we can or should pay big contracts to Amari, Gallup and Lamb. I would think Gallup would be on the outside looking in, right? 

Personally, I really like what we've seen out of Cedrick Wilson.  I love Gallup, but once he comes back from injury I'd be looking at other teams and seeing if we could get some comp for him.  It's either that, or we have the ability to get out of Amari's contract after this season and we let him go and sign Gallup longterm.   

[Pam Cummings 9581]

13 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

No, he’s not the best back. Zeke is better. You’re still a moron. 

It's not even that hot of a take. The only thing Zeke does better is block. He's still fine and useful for now, but not past this year at the price tag. You continue to be a butthurt bitch.

Edited September 20, 2021 by Pam Cummings

[Vic Mackey 46936]

2 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Personally, I really like what we've seen out of Cedrick Wilson.  I love Gallup, but once he comes back from injury I'd be looking at other teams and seeing if we could get some comp for him.  It's either that, or we have the ability to get out of Amari's contract after this season and we let him go and sign Gallup longterm.   

For sure. Wilson can make things happen when he gets the ball. I think Amari and Lamb mean much more than Gallup does. And we don't have the money to pay everyone. Not sure what Gallup will command in the open market.

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

Nice..... This is without giving Cox any snaps because Jaylon Smith is soaking them up.

I thought he got blown up by Vea in week 1 for a pressure, but whatever..... center seems like an area of concern.

 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Didn't they also say Steele didnt allow a pressure?

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

5 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Didn't they also say Steele didnt allow a pressure?

No, I think he gave up no sacks, which was great going against Bosa, but his pass protection was competent (yes, he received a ton of help), while his run blocking was pretty good.

Pass protection:

Overall, Steele received 79 grade which of course means he was much better run blocking.  Still a WIP in pass pro.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

He's so fast

 

[LTtxfan 48979]

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by LTtxfan

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

smh.  

 

[Vic Mackey 46936]

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[Vic Mackey 46936]

I knew I was not imagining things. Both of our games so far, the refs make waaaay too much of an appearance. It is league wide.

 

[Vic Mackey 46936]

Number 1 number 1!!

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

Getting thinner..... Gregory is back in the good news.

 

[Vic Mackey 46936]

 

[Dr Fear 1265]

Josh Gordon reinstated.

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

So....... this isn't good.

This is really bad too..... remember, Neal is very questionable and Armstrong is already out.  Parsons probably getting 30 snaps at DE.

Seems we're not doing well with COVID protocols and responsibility.

 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Zeke is overpaid fanclub here.

[Trey3216 15325]

1 hour ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Wow, Cowboys really navigated Covid well. I type this bitter I navigated it about as well. 

They’re at like 95% vaxxed per Jerruh. About all they can do, right. 

[C-Man 27055]

1 hour ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Yep. I found out the hard way it doesn’t really matter if you are vaxxed. The Delta found a way. 

Delta will almost certainly be less of an issue for you because you're vaxxed so you've got that going for you. Which is nice.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

 

 

Edited September 25, 2021 by Vic Mackey

[futureman 22415]

On 9/20/2021 at 12:25 PM, Pam Cummings said:

Pollard is the best back on the Cowboys, feels like Zeke will be gonezo after this year.

his 2022 salary is guaranteed. 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

 

 

[Pam Cummings 9581]

4 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

 

 

If that's actually true and they can prove it, why wouldn't they suspend him for way longer? 

[kevwun 15652]

For real, that's only a 5 game suspension?

[Vic Mackey 46936]

"Sources"?? Riiiiight. You can use that these days and just run with anything you want. Like someone said, if this was indeed true, no way in hell is this only 5 games. just more bullshit like we dealt with for Zeke.

[Keef 757]

Clearly didn't offer him enough.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

Lulz

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Ridiculous Cowboy fans had to put up with Garrett for a decade. 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

If we are who we think we are, we win and cover tonight. Put a fucking stranglehold on this terrible division by smoking what is probably your biggest competitor in the division.  

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

On a completely different note, if Stafford stays healthy (big if), the rams are far and away the best team in the nfc. I don’t think that’s recency bias. They’re better than the Bucs. They could play that game 10 times at a neutral site and win 7 times. It’s laughable to think that there were people that tried to argue that Stafford wouldn’t make that much of a difference because he isn’t that much better than Goff. 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

It's a long season. 14 (or 15) more games before the playoffs.

Injuries always play a part in the end.

[Vic Mackey 46936]

Rams aren't doing anything they did not already do with Goff. McVey is the common denominator. Stafford didn't do shit in Detroit and now Goff isn't. Switch both of them and the Rams are doing what they have been doing this whole time which is win games. Are you already forgetting the 2018 season under Goff? They also got to the divisional round last year. You are acting like Stafford took over some shit team and instantly elevated them.

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

Osas  been balling early

 

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

1-0 against a trash division. Is a 1st round home playoff game possible or dare i say it 1st round bye?

[futureman 22415]

11 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

On a completely different note, if Stafford stays healthy (big if), the rams are far and away the best team in the nfc. I don’t think that’s recency bias. They’re better than the Bucs. They could play that game 10 times at a neutral site and win 7 times. It’s laughable to think that there were people that tried to argue that Stafford wouldn’t make that much of a difference because he isn’t that much better than Goff. 

stafford is tier one with brady and rodgers and mahomes

[DougO 5239]

fecals flushed.

Mission accomplished.

 

 

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

Diggs with int in all 3 games. Wow he was on fire tonight though. 

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