COVID FAFO Roll Call

[Satchel 6,901]

8 hours ago, Blotto said:

And yet somehow, as NAIU alluded, anti-CRT rhetoric becomes more and more entrenched in GOP messaging. If most white Republicans truly find that to be abhorrent, than why does GOP leadership continue to stoke the CRT panic within its base? The party platform is what it is, and it seems clear this will continue to gain importance as we head into midterms and the '24 election cycles.

Modern day political parties are a strange amalgamation of single issue voters. For the GOP, you'll find  Bible bangers, gun nuts, prolifers, anti-immigration nuts, people in fear of socialism, etc... Lots of single issue voters that find justification in  the entirety of the party platform as long as it protects their devotion to an individual cause. 

The "I care about low taxes" or "It's my constitutional right to own 37 AR-15's" people better pay attention to all the other evil shit being interwoven into their party's platform. You vote for all of it. You own all of it.

The leadership continues to stoke the CRT panic within its base so as to keep it preoccupied with grievance, without which they have nothing. 

[tantric superman 4,667]

30ish kid who used to go to our church just died of covid.  Fully vaxed, had some underlying health conditions.  Progressive, believed in science, very kind hippy kind of kid. 

Can;t forget there are some good ones going down as well. 

[Grandioso 2,592]

The right has theocratic fascists that want to overturn elections and install a former game show host as a godhead autocrat.

The left has one senator and like 5 congressman who have vaguely European/Scandinavian aspirations for what the social safety net should be.

Both sides.


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[Grandioso 2,592]

30ish kid who used to go to our church just died of covid.  Fully vaxed, had some underlying health conditions.  Progressive, believed in science, very kind hippy kind of kid. 
Can;t forget there are some good ones going down as well. 

Now this is sad. When did he get vaccinated?


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[Guest]

Safety net is so outdated.  It's infrastructure now...

[Guest]

DP

Edited October 11, 2021 by slorch

[jimmyjazz 45,162]

1 hour ago, tantric superman said:

30ish kid who used to go to our church just died of covid.  Fully vaxed, had some underlying health conditions.  Progressive, believed in science, very kind hippy kind of kid. 

Can;t forget there are some good ones going down as well. 

Yes, it sucks, and I know who I'm pointing the first finger at when good smart people succumb to this virus.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

 

And quit being so binary, just because voting for Republicans is promoting white supremist thought,.  

False.

 

I agree with you though.  I don't have to vote for either one.  I didn't presidentially.

 

I get a kick out of the persistent "bogeyman-assignment" to the other side.  "Agree with us, or you're scared of everyone and are a white nationalist. "

Y'all as crazy as the people you worry about.

Edited October 12, 2021 by slorch

[aggie08 20,343]

4 minutes ago, slorch said:

False.

 

I agree with you though.  I don't have to vote for either one.  I didn't presidentially.

 

I get a kick out of the persistent "bogeyman-assignment" to the other side.  "Agree with us, or you're scared of everyone and are a white nationalist. "

Y'all as crazy as the people you worry about.

Yep, we're one step away from attacking the Capitol and knowingly spreading a year's worth of democracy weakening lies about election fraud as an excuse to implement widespread voter suppression.

Same same.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5,092]

8 minutes ago, slorch said:

False.

 

I agree with you though.  I don't have to vote for either one.  I didn't presidentially.

 

I get a kick out of the persistent "bogeyman-assignment" to the other side.  "Agree with us, or you're scared of everyone and are a white nationalist. "

Y'all as crazy as the people you worry about.

Since I did not both sides you in my response (or even, for that matter, say that all Republican votes are white supremacists), I fail to see how I'm saying you have to agree with me or you are a white supremacist.  Further, I'm not saying you are a white supremacist if you are voting for Republicans.   I'm saying you are promoting white supremacists by voting for Republicans.  And we can all see the evidence of it as more and more of the white supremacist playbook gets implemented as Republicans win elections.  Why do you think that is?  Coincidence?

Also, you didn't answer my first question.  When a Republican pushes the white supremacist playbook and gets elected, what message do you think that Republican received from the electorate that elected them?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

Yep, we're one step away from attacking the Capitol and knowingly spreading a year's worth of democracy weakening lies about election fraud as an excuse to implement widespread voter suppression.

Same same.

The battle of the capital.  Never forget the decimation of America.

 

FTR, those fuckers are every bit as idiotic as anyone accuses, but the effects of their action are grossly overstated.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Since I did not both sides you in my response (or even, for that matter, say that all Republican votes are white supremacists), I fail to see how I'm saying you have to agree with me or you are a white supremacist.  Further, I'm not saying you are a white supremacist if you are voting for Republicans.   I'm saying you are promoting white supremacists by voting for Republicans.  And we can all see the evidence of it as more and more of the white supremacist playbook gets implemented as Republicans win elections.  Why do you think that is?  Coincidence?

Also, you didn't answer my first question.  When a Republican pushes the white supremacist playbook and gets elected, what message do you think that Republican received from the electorate that elected them?

They aren;t pushing the play book as a party.  It's just how you view it.  The notion that they are capable of pushing anything is hilarious.

 

Look, I'm not defending the GOP.  I fucking hate them as much or more than you for dereliction of duty, but the notion that a GOP vote is a vote supporting white supremacy is asinine. 

Edited October 12, 2021 by slorch

[aggie08 20,343]

Just now, slorch said:

The battle of the capital.  Never forget the decimation of America.

 

FTR, those fuckers are every bit as idiotic as anyone accuses, but the effects of their action are grossly overstated.

I don't think they're idiotic. Well, they are, but moreso they're gullible. And, if you truly believe the conspiracies being peddled to you by bad faith politicians about things like your vote being stolen, violence and revolution is a reasonable course of action. So the GOP will continue to stir up these gullible rubes to milk them of their votes, and things will only get worse and worse as they cater all of their words and actions to this new, extreme base. The base that thinks there's a war on white people being raged, and communism in on their doorstep.

It's been pretty much clear as day. I was absolutely a conservative growing up, but there's nothing left but faux outrage, culture wars, and white grievance. None of it interests me.

[tantric superman 4,667]

7 minutes ago, slorch said:

Look, I'm not defending the GOP.  I fucking hate them as much or more than you for dereliction of duty, but the notion that a GOP vote is a vote supporting white supremacy is asinine. 

Can we just call it a vote for keeping brown people from coming into our state, and making it a bit harder for them to vote, and negatively affecting the power of their vote through gerrymandering?

Other than that, you're absolutely right.

[aggie08 20,343]

24 minutes ago, slorch said:

They aren;t pushing the play book as a party.  It's just how you view it.  The notion that they are capable of pushing anything is hilarious.

Dude, they axed Liz Cheney--with one of the most conservative voting records in Washington--because she dared to call out Trump on his very obvious election lies. Can't have her using logic to undermine their voter suppression efforts. Republican candidates who don't kiss Trump's ring will be primaried in short order. Their alignment, and the messaging that they're pushing, is obvious as fuck.

Edited October 12, 2021 by aggie08

[Celery Man 20,568]

55 minutes ago, slorch said:

False.

 

I agree with you though.  I don't have to vote for either one.  I didn't presidentially.

 

I get a kick out of the persistent "bogeyman-assignment" to the other side.  "Agree with us, or you're scared of everyone and are a white nationalist. "

Y'all as crazy as the people you worry about.

The leader of the republican party led an actual attack on Congress as it was enacting the results of the election. The entire party has stood pat with the elected members who were involved in literally attacking our democracy. They’re currently working on further delegitimizing our system of government with electoral audits that are completely unhinged from reality, among other things we don’t need to get into because isn’t that enough? If you vote for republicans, you are literally voting yes on attacking the Constitution. They are the greatest threat to our values and system of government since the Civil War.

Edited October 12, 2021 by Celery Man

[atomheartbevo 88,912]

17 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Post of mine from last year:

My own American family comes pretty much exclusively from a north English, Scottish, and Irish combo of ne'er-do-wells and other such "hardy peasant stock." 

And it seems that even after centuries of exposure to education and betterment in their material lives here in America, a great many have nevertheless reverted, in the life of their collective minds, to the moronic peasant thinking of their ancestors. I remember reading of the antics of some of the peasants in one of Dostoevski's novels, a whole army of them roaming the countryside babbling some nonsense about searching for a "warm river" to live on where everything would be vodka and crispy roast potatoes for them for the rest of their lives. They were forever in the grasp of some crazed collective mania founded and passed along amongst these illiterates via word of mouth. 

They are Irish, of course they want a warm river to live on where everything is vodka and all the foods are fucking potatoes.

But why would you even admit to having some Irish in your family?

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

2 hours ago, slorch said:

The battle of the capital.  Never forget the decimation of America.

 

FTR, those fuckers are every bit as idiotic as anyone accuses, but the effects of their action are grossly overstated.

Yeah that gets a neg.  This shit isn’t a joke man. 

[atomheartbevo 88,912]

 

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

They are Irish, of course they want a warm river to live on where everything is vodka and all the foods are fucking potatoes.

But why would you even admit to having some Irish in your family?

We were over the sort who came over with Normans and lorded it over all the O'Sheas and Finnegans. From out of the windows of upper floors of our walled manors, we would sip madeira and fine ports as we observed the quaint customs of the downstairs class, always out there reciting poetry, and jigging on the heath with their little flutes. This of course only took place when they were not fighting or engaged in the manufacture of their 23rd starving child.

But of course we were also fuck-ups, or perhaps we would have stayed put. As the story goes, the last of our line to call Castle Taylor (County Galway) lost the title to house at the races, shipped out for Boston with his wife and young son (my ggg-grandfather). Mom and dad up and died, leaving the young un and orphan ate about eight. And soon enough he was forced in to labor at a watch factory, where he toiled along those very same Paddies and Colleens we'd been oppressing since around 1200. 

behold our faded grandeur...

But in accord with my thesis here, and how we lost the house, these people were colossal fuck-ups. The sister of Irish literary revivalist Lady Gregory had the misfortune of marrying into our family. "Castle Taylor has long been a bent house," she confided to her diary. 

[Celery Man 20,568]

She meant “bint house”, your ggggmother was a bit of a whore

[PenelopeWitherspoon 18,402]

9 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

[Guest]

13 hours ago, aggie08 said:

I don't think they're idiotic. Well, they are, but moreso they're gullible. And, if you truly believe the conspiracies being peddled to you by bad faith politicians about things like your vote being stolen, violence and revolution is a reasonable course of action. So the GOP will continue to stir up these gullible rubes to milk them of their votes, and things will only get worse and worse as they cater all of their words and actions to this new, extreme base. The base that thinks there's a war on white people being raged, and communism in on their doorstep.

It's been pretty much clear as day. I was absolutely a conservative growing up, but there's nothing left but faux outrage, culture wars, and white grievance. None of it interests me.

I'm still fiscally conservative.   Socially, IDK, middle of the road?  I'd wager some of the biggest differences I have with some posters on here are related to spending/ taxation/ and redistribution of wealth; as opposed to social policy.

To bring it back to the thread, and to your point; the mentality of people avoiding vaccination in the name of some political agenda is just amazing to see.  I do not wish anyone death from Covid, and I reported this thread when it started. Imma & Company rightfully ignored my concern.  The premise is still dark to me, but I do agree the discussion of real consequences matters.  It's pretty much inconceivable to me that someone eligible( without pre-existing health exception) for vaccination would refuse it. I still don't understand how a true black/white medical decision becomes a political statement.  Politics has eaten their freaking brains.  Covid just kills off their bodies.

Edited October 12, 2021 by slorch

[Beau Vine 53,653]

I'm in disbelief that Netflix (or someone) hasn't launched a show called "Conspiracyville," which is a comedy about a town full of rubes who keep stumbling onto and buying into a new ridiculous conspiracy every week.  

[Guest Lobo]

1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

I'm in disbelief that Netflix (or someone) hasn't launched a show called "Conspiracyville," which is a comedy about a town full of rubes who keep stumbling onto and buying into a new ridiculous conspiracy every week.  

Because it already exists in real life and sometimes parody seems so sublime, people just won't watch it because it comes across as preachy absurdness.  

Although I do like to picture the town square having a "Just Asking Questions" desk with this guy:

 

[NameAlreadyInUse 5,092]

1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

I'm in disbelief that Netflix (or someone) hasn't launched a show called "Conspiracyville," which is a comedy about a town full of rubes who keep stumbling onto and buying into a new ridiculous conspiracy every week.  

I think, maybe rightly, they don't think their imagination is good enough to consistently come up with conspiracies that are so crazy that 1) it isn't already a real conspiracy theory, or 2) they don't actually start a bunch of new conspiracies people actually believe.  

They are probably right about #1 and would any of us want #2 on our conscience?

[Celery Man 20,568]

I can't remember the timeline of when Veep wrapped up, but the people behind that have talked about how the Trump era makes the show impossible. The sharpie hurricane map, trying to buy greenland, having Jonah types pander to nutjobs and all of a sudden you're attempting to literally overthrow the government, on and on and on - half of the shit that Trump actually did would cause Veep to jump the shark by getting to outlandish, but it fucking happened and so a comedy about similar shit isn't ludicrous enough to become funny.

[mchookem 15,535]

yes...i didn't watch Veep until earlier this year and the final season felt different, it got very dark, and watching post-Trump there were def times i was like 'hahah...wait, that's not funny anymore 😐'.

[Beau Vine 53,653]

1 hour ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I think, maybe rightly, they don't think their imagination is good enough to consistently come up with conspiracies that are so crazy that 1) it isn't already a real conspiracy theory, or 2) they don't actually start a bunch of new conspiracies people actually believe.  

They are probably right about #1 and would any of us want #2 on our conscience?

I've seriously considered wading into some of these nutjob Facebook groups, claiming that Covid is actually The Rapture, and that we're seeing God taking his true believers to heaven.  But I'm pretty sure that the amount of traction I'd get for that would be nauseating.  

[Macanudo 12,743]

9 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I've seriously considered wading into some of these nutjob Facebook groups, claiming that Covid is actually The Rapture, and that we're seeing God taking his true believers to heaven.  But I'm pretty sure that the amount of traction I'd get for that would be nauseating.  

Well, fuck around and find out!

[mchookem 15,535]

[Pescado_Rojo 19,235]

12 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I've seriously considered wading into some of these nutjob Facebook groups, claiming that Covid is actually The Rapture, and that we're seeing God taking his true believers to heaven.  But I'm pretty sure that the amount of traction I'd get for that would be nauseating.  

I've thought it might be fun to get someone to do one of those bearded redneck ranting in his pickup truck videos and have him claim Covid was released by "them" to bankrupt the healthcare industry and force socialized medicine on "us". The only way to save "us" from socialism is to get vaccinated. 

[atomheartbevo 88,912]

4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

I'm in disbelief that Netflix (or someone) hasn't launched a show called "Conspiracyville," which is a comedy about a town full of rubes who keep stumbling onto and buying into a new ridiculous conspiracy every week.  

2 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I think, maybe rightly, they don't think their imagination is good enough to consistently come up with conspiracies that are so crazy that 1) it isn't already a real conspiracy theory, or 2) they don't actually start a bunch of new conspiracies people actually believe.  

They are probably right about #1 and would any of us want #2 on our conscience?

It drops next week on Netflix.  It's an animated series. 

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

Ok, that was clearly a marketing ploy by Beau Vine.  Or we are in a simulation.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5,092]

I guess some writers can live with #2 on their conscience.

[MissingInAction 24,324]

18 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

They are Irish, of course they want a warm river to live on where everything is vodka and all the foods are fucking potatoes.

But why would you even admit to having some Irish in your family?

I'm Irish so now I have to kick your ass, but we will get drunk as hell and sing about it aftwards.

[tantric superman 4,667]

I'm not sure why my quote and posting functions don't seem to be working.  

On the kid who died who I mentioned above.  Looks like he got vaccinated in late spring.  Had type II diabetes.  The sad thing is, I think he got that diagnosis within the last couple of years, and he had lost about 50 pounds over the last 8 months or so to get it under control and he was in "diabetes remission".  

Most of the stuff I posted above is just based on his facebook page.  I hadn't seen him or the family in years.  The parents are just great people.  Dad very involved in prison ministry.

https://lakehighlands.advocatemag.com/2021/10/12/lhhs-grad-oscar-kincheloe-dies-of-covid/

[Homesickhorn 2,194]

On 10/8/2021 at 8:44 PM, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Double yup. There's a disproportionate You-Can't-Tell-Me-What-To-Do Strain amongst those in jobs with the "Be You're Own Boss" element. The wanna be the top dog. The big man. NUMERO UNO honcho. THE HEAD CHEESE!

Wanna be your own boss.....get your broker's license.

Edited October 13, 2021 by Homesickhorn

[Nivek 16,665]

19 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

We were over the sort who came over with Normans and lorded it over all the O'Sheas and Finnegans. From out of the windows of upper floors of our walled manors, we would sip madeira and fine ports as we observed the quaint customs of the downstairs class, always out there reciting poetry, and jigging on the heath with their little flutes. This of course only took place when they were not fighting or engaged in the manufacture of their 23rd starving child.

But of course we were also fuck-ups, or perhaps we would have stayed put. As the story goes, the last of our line to call Castle Taylor (County Galway) lost the title to house at the races, shipped out for Boston with his wife and young son (my ggg-grandfather). Mom and dad up and died, leaving the young un and orphan ate about eight. And soon enough he was forced in to labor at a watch factory, where he toiled along those very same Paddies and Colleens we'd been oppressing since around 1200. 

behold our faded grandeur...

But in accord with my thesis here, and how we lost the house, these people were colossal fuck-ups. The sister of Irish literary revivalist Lady Gregory had the misfortune of marrying into our family. "Castle Taylor has long been a bent house," she confided to her diary. 

It is my island.  I hail from the king of Leinster, which means Dublin and Guiness are mine.  Though they seem to have forgotten it belongs to me.   

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

37 minutes ago, Nivek said:

It is my island.  I hail from the king of Leinster, which means Dublin and Guiness are mine.  Though they seem to have forgotten it belongs to me.   

Yeah 23 and me says i am also a descendant King Niall of the 7 hostages....he is the Genghis Khan of Ireland -- there hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of. 

he should have been King Naill of the 7 thousand concubines.

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

9 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

I'm in disbelief that Netflix (or someone) hasn't launched a show called "Conspiracyville," which is a comedy about a town full of rubes who keep stumbling onto and buying into a new ridiculous conspiracy every week.  

subscribed

[Dutchrudder 10,976]

My mom sent me an email today about how using nebulized hydrogen peroxide is a good way to keep covid away. Said it's "great for any lung problem, easy and fun!"

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[Bookman 4,569]

7 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

My mom sent me an email today about how using nebulized hydrogen peroxide is a good way to keep covid away. Said it's "great for any lung problem, easy and fun!"

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Damn I bet that gets the lungs all bright and shiny too.

[Captainant 26,902]

8 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

My mom sent me an email today about how using nebulized hydrogen peroxide is a good way to keep covid away. Said it's "great for any lung problem, easy and fun!"

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You should call your mom before she drowns on dry land. She's gonna have a shitload of respiratory irritation at best, and permanent lung damage or death at worst. H2O2 ain't nothing to fuck with or bring into your body, even at low concentrations

Also tell her to get off Facebook

Edited October 13, 2021 by Captainant

[Dutchrudder 10,976]

You should call your mom before she drowns on dry land. She's gonna have a shitload of respiratory irritation at best, and permanent lung damage or death at worst. H2O2 ain't nothing to fuck with or bring into your body, even at low concentrations
Also tell her to get off Facebook

She doesn't care what I think, our communications still occur because she thinks I need Jesus and the End Times are happening right before our eyes! Covid is supposed to signify one of the 4 horsemen, Joe Biden is the anti Christ, and we have to support Trump and the Republicans because of "spiritual warfare." She was an anti vaxxer conspiracy nut before the internet was a thing. She used to have me and my brother watch "documentaries" on the Illuminati, Free Masons, Bildebergers and anyone else attempting to take over the world and install a One World Government. She was a Q conspiracy person before Trump ever ran for office, she's OG crazy. It's a mental disorder that neither she nor my dad are willing to recognize.

[Pato del Muerto 52,035]

Wtf is a bildab…you know what never mind. 

[Dutchrudder 10,976]

Wtf is a bildab…you know what never mind. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting

These Illuminati are HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT!!! WE HAVE TO STOP THEM BY PRAYING AND BUYING MORE OF MY BOOK SO WE ARE EDUCATED ABOUT THEIR CRIMINAL PRACTICES!!!!

[atomheartbevo 88,912]

9 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

My mom sent me an email today about how using nebulized hydrogen peroxide is a good way to keep covid away. Said it's "great for any lung problem, easy and fun!"

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Your mom is an idiot.  My mom says to use Windex.

[atomheartbevo 88,912]

26 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Wtf is a bildab…you know what never mind. 

It's the thing that if Alex Jones had stayed in his lane and focused on the Bildebergers and Bohemian Grove types instead of going after the families of dead children, he wouldn't be looking at losing his little media empire.

He was funny/harmless on Austin Public Access when he was obsessed with the Bildebergers and Bohemian Grove.

[Guest Lobo]

37 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

She doesn't care what I think, our communications still occur because she thinks I need Jesus and the End Times are happening right before our eyes! Covid is supposed to signify one of the 4 horsemen, Joe Biden is the anti Christ, and we have to support Trump and the Republicans because of "spiritual warfare." She was an anti vaxxer conspiracy nut before the internet was a thing. She used to have me and my brother watch "documentaries" on the Illuminati, Free Masons, Bildebergers and anyone else attempting to take over the world and install a One World Government. She was a Q conspiracy person before Trump ever ran for office, she's OG crazy. It's a mental disorder that neither she nor my dad are willing to recognize.

 

That reminds me, literally.  I need to call my mom this week, it's been awhile.  She's definitely in "End Times/only Jesus can save us" mode for decades, but thankfully she's just a run of the mill Fox News "Obama is a muslim foreigner sent to destroy the country.  What he couldn't finish, Biden will...and only through Jesus can the nation be cleansed."

But every few months, my cousin (who is like a  daughter to her, she trusts her more than me I think) gets her wound up on some Qanon/OAN/MAGA bullshit.  For the first half of the year, it was the evils of vaccinations (I finally talked mom into it by threatening to not let her see her grandchildren until she got her second shot)  Second half of the year is that we are living in a communist state already and just don't know it yet, and Biden is coming to take her grandchildren away (meaning my two daughters).  And my mother believes this shit because my cousin calls her 3x/week with her "updates", and I only call once a month (thankfully my mom keeps that batshit crap under wraps when she does her weekly facetime with the kids).   

That's really half the trick is just beat the unbelievably stupid message into people's heads over and over and over again.  That's half the battle of propaganda.  It has to stir some kinda emotion in you (hatred for immigrants, fear of socialism, contempt for gays, mourning for dead fetuses, etc.); but you also gotta be consistent and frequent with the simplistic message.  There's a reason in WWII movies, every street in Germany is just covered in the same poster over and over again.  So you can walk down the street to the store and be reminded, "Let's see, we need bread.  And some...'Oh yeah, fucking Jews!'...grab some salt and some eggs."  

Edited October 13, 2021 by Lobo