COVID FAFO Roll Call

[Sawbonz 28225]

23 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

Prediction: In a couple years there will be covid orphan support groups. These children will grow up to despise their parent’s irresponsibility.


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[Francisco 2.0 32597]

54 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

Prediction: In a couple years there will be covid orphan support groups. These children will grow up to despise their parent’s irresponsibility.


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And some will grow up wanting to avenge their parent's death(s) at the hands of the media, the Democratic Party, etc.

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by Francisco 2.0

[Celery Man 21098]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Everyone's favorite FAFO subreddit was profiled on Slate.  

https://slate.com/technology/2021/09/hermancainaward-subreddit-antivaxxer-deaths-cataloged.html

 

 

 

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It is cruel, a site for heartless and unrepentant schadenfreude. This is a place where deaths are celebrated, and it is not the only one. While endless ink has been spilled on the anger of Trump voters and Fox News viewers and QAnon adherents, there are other angers that haven’t been nearly as well explored. The exhaustion and fury doctors and nurses feel, for example, as they deal yet again with overwhelmed ICUs. Instead of being hailed as heroes, this time around they’re risking their lives to serve while walking through anti-vax protestersand being called murderers or worse by misled family members demanding or indeed suingfor sick unvaccinated relatives on ventilators to be dosed with ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or vitamin C. There is the anger of family members of those without COVID who are dying or sicker than they should be because treatment was delayed or denied to them at dozens of hospitals that had no beds available. There’s the frustration of parents trying to keep their children safe, the constant, destabilizing calculations and adaptations people are forced into when (for instance) the governor of Texas prohibits schools from taking safety measures and then two teachers at a single school die, forcing closures once again. There’s the run-of-the-mill anger of those weary of living under pandemic conditions and demoralized—in the most literal sense—by the selfishness of their compatriots.

 

Subscriptions to the HermanCainAward subreddit are increasing exponentially, from 2,000 subscribers on July 4 to 5,000 at the beginning of August to more than 100,000 on Sept. 1 to 243,000 Friday to 276,000 today. If that rate is any indication, rage is growing toward anti-vaxxers deliberately prolonging the pandemic out of an anti-social and deadly understanding of their rights. Now, it’s true that not everyone on the subreddit assents to its spiteful premise: One exhausted nurse wrote a long post about how much one of her anti-vax patients suffered, as an attempt at counterbalance. She acknowledged her own compassion fatigue but also urged readers to think harder about how we got to this sorry pass. Plenty of the discussions do orbit around that basic question. But most of the comments are angry. A collection of screenshots generally elicits a common sentiment: The person got their just desserts.

Does anything besidesschadenfreude happen when Americans see one after another after another after another of these stories?

I began reading because I wanted to understand how pro-social impulses could get coarsened to the point where advocates for lifesaving measures like vaccines—people who think of themselves as the good guys—are literally celebrating deaths. I’m no closer to understanding that, but something very strange did happen because I read these records: Despite reading loads of statistics and case histories and news articles about the pandemic, r/HermanCainAward became my most thorough source on what it’s like for a person to die from COVID. I understand the disease more deeply because I have read so many viciously curated “stories” in which ordinary people blathering about politics end up narrating their decline from it—with help from their families—as optimistically as they can. They are younger than COVID patients used to be. Trying to put a positive spin on things. Soliciting prayers. Generally avoiding conversions. They do not expect to die. It’s relentless reading. And it keeps ending up the same way. Only health care workers have seen this many people decline and die.

 

It has always been and remains a problem that COVID is functionally invisible to so many Americans. We already medicalize death more than most cultures, but the sensible restrictions on visitors to COVID wards have meant that the disease crippling hospitals across the country goes mostly unwitnessed. We all know getting on a ventilator is bad and having to go on an ECMO machine is worse, but most of us have not heard what lungs sound like when they have that by-now-classic “ground glass appearance” in scans. We have not watched people panicking and yanking tubes out because they can’t breathe. We have not seen patients swollen and full of air, unrecognizable. Or proned. Or having their last conversation before they go on the ventilator.

You don’t see most of this stuff in these r/HermanCainAward screenshots, either, but you do see a lot you just wouldn’t otherwise. Specifically, you see the suffering. It’s filtered, of course, usually through collapsing defiance and positive thinking that fails. People post that they’re not feeling well when they’ve already become patients. They usually put it simply, with a request for prayers. The contrast to their grandstanding in prior posts acts as an intensifier; that they aren’t commenting on the very thing they’ve preached about so much comes to serve—cumulatively, as you read these—as evidence of just how awful they feel. The selfies can be brutal. The photographs family members post are worse because the patient is frequently unconscious, bloated, clearly in a bad way. Relatives’ updates tend to feature obsessive medical details like ventilator settings and oxygen saturations, and you learn to recognize the time course of the disease: When mentions of dialysis start up, you know, as a reader, that the prognosis is poor. The death announcement—once the requests for prayers and hopes for miracles are over—frequently reveals how much worse it really was than anyone let on: You find out the patient also had MRSA, or had developed an autoimmune disease, or had struggled with strokes and clots.

 

Jaded though they are, many r/HermanCainAward readers have experienced this much as I did: as a truly frightening look at what COVID can really be like. What hundreds of stories about deaths told through mean-spirited screenshots reveal is that the disease—when it gets bad—is worse than even the most pro-vax person really understood.

And that’s what sets r/HermanCainAward apart from the didactic pleasures of other schadenfreude-based forums like r/LeopardsAteMyFace: It’s more horrible than satisfying because the horror isn’t going to stop. These individual stories do not produce conversions. These aren’t situations where anti-vaxxers learn their lesson, get vaccinated, and save themselves. Sure, there’s the occasional “Redemption” tag, awarded when a patient or relative regrets opposing vaccination and urges their friends to do what they can to avoid a similar fate. But those are rare. What this massive record of human suffering really illustrates (in all its startling, repetitive sameness) is how seamlessly anti-vax communities reconcile themselves to the deaths their convictions will perpetuate. The posts about individual liberty and self-sufficiency devolve into abjectly dependent appeals: A call to “prayer warriors” is almost a required feature at this point in a r/HermanCainAward entry. When someone dies, the grief is gentle and generic: He was a good guy, he got his angel wings today, it was his time, God called him home. Their families frequently express gratitude to the medical staff who cared for their loved ones. It is resignation, and deeply sad. And yet: Chilled though I’ve been by how this subreddit can rejoice at a death, I’m somehow no less chilled by how easily the bereaved normalize their losses. A 35-year-old man with three young children and a free vaccine available should not be dead! There is astonishingly little recognition of this.

If these individual stories seem to change nothing, what about a cumulative record? Does anything besides schadenfreude happen when Americans see one after another after another after another of these stories? I’m not sure, but a new category has recently been gathering steam in the subreddit: the IPA (Immunized to Prevent Award). People post photos of their new vaccination cards, saying that reading the r/HermanCainAward finally convinced them they didn’t want to “win.” They get enthusiastically cheered on by commenters. “I’m not anti-Vax,” one such comment reads, “I was just afraid and confused by all the misinformation out there. Genuinely frightened and confused. Taking a quick 5 minute look at this Sub-reddit brought me back down to earth. I’ll be getting my first round of the Pfizer Vaccine early next week. Thank you for existing.” There are more of these than you might expect; who knows if these stories are true, but if even some of them are, maybe these stories can, in the aggregate, persuade people who wouldn’t be especially moved by specific cases.

Nothing about the r/HermanCainAward, a dark record of a dark, dark time, is decent or kind or particularly fair. Even using Cain as the model is uncharitable; he was actually among the conservatives who didn’t deny that COVID was real. He advocated following CDC guidelines including social distancing and even masks on his radio show, despite not always adhering to those recommendations himself. I’m not sure that matters; no one could argue that a place where people gather to mock the dead is “moral,” or accuse it of hypocrisy, or of virtue signaling, or of coastal elitism. It is an anti-persuasive venue, a place that dispenses with rational appeals for people to behave better in favor of something much more primal and horrifying. And who knows? Maybe it’s persuading people specifically because it’s not trying to.

 

 

Daily Texan 2020 shout out

[brakeman 28751]

1 hour ago, Grandioso said:

Prediction: In a couple years there will be covid orphan support groups. These children will grow up to despise their parent’s irresponsibility.


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Yep, COSG will be a thing in the future.    

But will they really despise their parent’s irresponsibility. Nothing major will change in the overall environment and the surrounding community culture. It will be easy for these kids to fall back into this paradigm.

But I predict that they will be in dire need of social services. You know...

socialism.

[BearSchlong 8244]

The Slate article omitted all the "go fund me" accounts so the HCA winners families don't immediately starve to death.

Honorable mention to r/nursing.

[Grandioso 2592]

My Covid Strategy: A scientific miracle that took 2 seconds to administer for free at a giant FEMA station at Reliant Stadium in Houston 

FAFO Covid Strategy: "Prayer Warriors." 

[Goredho 17657]

2 hours ago, Grandioso said:

Prediction: In a couple years there will be covid orphan support groups. These children will grow up to despise their parent’s irresponsibility.


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Whatever generation are in elementary and high school now will be shaped by the pandemic and its effects.

I say we call them Generation "Q".

Edited September 22, 2021 by Goredho

[Grandioso 2592]

Science deniers should be denied science. Don't take these people to hospitals; take them to churches. 

[staboner 5084]

On 9/21/2021 at 8:19 AM, cactusflinthead said:

The Victorian government will forcibly shut down all construction sites in metropolitan Melbourne and all other locked down local government areas in response to violent protests on Monday.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-20/victorian-construction-industry-shutdown/100477912

goddamit. i fucking hate the antivaxxers and the VIC gov more and more every day. i wish they both fucking lost. paperclip versus aggy levels for meteor shower wishing

andddddd earfquake this morning. oppps

Edited September 22, 2021 by staboner

[Bevo14 8468]

10 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

Science deniers should be denied science. Don't take these people to hospitals; take them to churches. 

[brakeman 28751]

 

[Beau Vine 55867]

[Grandioso 2592]

4 hours ago, Grandioso said:

Prediction: In a couple years there will be covid orphan support groups. These children will grow up to despise their parent’s irresponsibility.


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Covid orphans sound off

 

[Grandioso 2592]

His final words were "I wish that I was vaccinated." Sadly, the media, the government, scientists, and doctors failed to inform everyone that the vaccine is good. 

Edited September 22, 2021 by Grandioso

[C-Man 27781]

2 hours ago, Goredho said:

Whatever generation are in elementary and high school now will be shaped by the pandemic and its effects.

I say we call them Generation "Q".

Don't put that evil on them. The kids in primary school right now aren't to blame -- don't hang the 'Q' stigma on them, many of whom are very progressive.

[Goredho 17657]

Generation FAAFO, then.

[Bama Chick 28596]

People who work at hospitals refusing to get vaccinated is the most batshit crazy thing I have ever seen, and I’ve seen a lot of batshit crazy stuff the past 5 years.

Dude - I just found out a full 38% of the ER nurses (RNs, not LPNs or CNAs) at my hospital are unvaccinated!!!!

We were meeting to make a plan for when the federal vaccine mandate for facilities that accept Medicare gets rolled out.

FFS, our ED has the lowest vaxx rate of all departments. Our Plant Ops has a higher rate.

I had an involuntary obvious vocal reaction to that statement in a meeting yesterday. Thankfully I didn’t cuss but my outburst didn’t go unnoticed.

The president gave me a “GIRL! I KNOW!!!”.

[Grandioso 2592]

"We just don't get the wins." 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

America is completely and utterly broken.

That statement could have gone on a dozen different threads but I feel like this thread is a sad example of just how fucked everything is.

There is no coming back from all of this. The hatred of other will only get worse.

[Bookman 4764]

I would like to take a second to grieve the deaths of all these antivaxxers.

They are dying some horrible deaths, and at some level they're not at fault. They are not great thinkers. They never got past the denial stage. They get medical advice from odd places because this is America. Then they get on the Internet and see others who think like they do, and they feel empowered and emboldened. Many have profited off of this.

It's quite sad, actually.

[Fudge Nuggets 19455]

I would like to take a second to say “fuck ‘em”.

I am god damn sick and fucking tired of the dumbest of the dumbasses basically holding the country hostage with their stupidity.  The sooner they die, the better.

[TXSG8R 3362]

8 minutes ago, Bookman said:

I would like to take a second to grieve the deaths of all these antivaxxers.

They are dying some horrible deaths, and at some level they're not at fault. They are not great thinkers. They never got past the denial stage. They get medical advice from odd places because this is America. Then they get on the Internet and see others who think like they do, and they feel empowered and emboldened. Many have profited off of this.

It's quite sad, actually.

Agreed, but I don’t see any way of fixing it. The R platform has painted themselves into a corner. Don’t believe in science. Don’t believe the media. Don’t agree or even compromise with the libs. They have made it a mission to overcome what little checks and balances on the local idiocy there was by taking over school boards, city councils, and the judiciary. It’s going to get worse before it gets better. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

10 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Agreed, but I don’t see any way of fixing it. The R platform has painted themselves into a corner.

Disagree with the second sentence. The Republican leadership have not painted themselves into a corner, they have intentionally built a wall from which to insulate themselves as they rule by fiat through a facade of democratic free and fair elections. That is the end goal and they are running with it. It's a little like the Monty Python skit with the Frenchman on the castle wall except their sense of humor and insults fall flatter than the cow.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

14 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Agreed, but I don’t see any way of fixing it. The R platform has painted themselves into a corner. Don’t believe in science. Don’t believe the media. Don’t agree or even compromise with the libs. They have made it a mission to overcome what little checks and balances on the local idiocy there was by taking over school boards, city councils, and the judiciary. It’s going to get worse before it gets better. 

I honestly think the only fix is an overwhelming wave of compassion from those that haven’t been sucked into the vortex. Unfortunately the amount required on an individual level usually ends in sainthood, and I know I’m certainly not capable of it.

The reality is the level of toxicity is fatal. We aren’t coming back from this.

[Guest Lobo]

30 minutes ago, Bookman said:

I would like to take a second to grieve the deaths of all these antivaxxers.

They are dying some horrible deaths, and at some level they're not at fault. They are not great thinkers. They never got past the denial stage. They get medical advice from odd places because this is America. Then they get on the Internet and see others who think like they do, and they feel empowered and emboldened. Many have profited off of this.

It's quite sad, actually.

 

20 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I would like to take a second to say “fuck ‘em”.

I am god damn sick and fucking tired of the dumbest of the dumbasses basically holding the country hostage with their stupidity.  The sooner they die, the better.

I'm kinda torn between these two points on the "giving a shit" spectrum.  Many of these people never really had a chance.  They blamed the media hoaxes or Mexicans or socialism up until the end of their life, but they were always gonna be victims of something stupid---losing all their money to a bullshit financial scheme or losing their life to covid when it was virtually totally guaranteed not to have to.  So I get it, I'm starting to feel a modicum of sympathy for them as these stories roll in in greater numbers.  They get pounced on by people looking to manipulate them almost every day of their lives...they just happened to also have the bad luck of being stupid and easily manipulated during a deadly variant of a pandemic.  There are millions of Americans that just can't be reached. 

That said, remember how many people they're infecting on their way out...so yeah, put me down for team "Fuck 'Em" again today and we'll see how we feel tomorrow.

[Blotto 24022]

1 hour ago, Bookman said:

I would like to take a second to grieve the deaths of all these antivaxxers.

They are dying some horrible deaths, and at some level they're not at fault. They are not great thinkers. They never got past the denial stage. They get medical advice from odd places because this is America. Then they get on the Internet and see others who think like they do, and they feel empowered and emboldened. Many have profited off of this.

It's quite sad, actually.

They are entirely at fault. If people choose to subjugate their own well being  in favor of the well being of their political party ...that is their fault. If they think these moronic slapdicks like Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan know more about medicine and science than, you know, doctors and scientists... that is their fault. I wish we could escape this situation without another needless death, but unfortunately there will be tens if not hundreds of thousands more deaths. Wholly preventable deaths if people would just use their goddamn brain and stop blindly following a bunch of idiots. History has shown they will not stop blindly following a bunch of idiots, but I cant find it in me to grieve these people's deaths. I only mourn for the future of our country. 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by Blotto

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

3 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

I honestly think the only fix is an overwhelming wave of compassion from those that haven’t been sucked into the vortex. Unfortunately the amount required on an individual level usually ends in sainthood, and I know I’m certainly not capable of it.

The reality is the level of toxicity is fatal. We aren’t coming back from this.

The Slate article up the page tapped into the anger that is the go to emotion of late for much of America. I think @Satchel touched on it in the Fascism thread with respect to the segment that is constantly outraged about this or that after being whipped into a froth by radio and opinion tv, and that is met with the world weariness and anger by folks who have had enough of the daily temper tantrums.

It's advantageous to foreign interests to foment this anger in the sane towards the slightly less sane/irrational/cult/whatever you want to call them. It's hard not to be and it can certainly tap into something primal. But, perhaps if compassion is not at hand, then a matter of fact exclusion ala @Huckleberry 's 'I thought you were smarter than that," combined with a sincere desire to move forward with or without their involvement would at least get some things accomplished.

Some percentage of our society haven't quite reached adulthood even though their physical maturation is complete. So, it's up to the adults to get on those same school boards, to organize and not let the two or three obstinate children ruin the birthday party. Everyone else would like to have some cake and camaraderie, so let those little fuckers sit with their arms crossed and pout. The adults that allow two or three malign actors bent on destruction out of spite to run the show have only themselves to blame. The Congresspersons could certainly do with a little of that, themselves.

[DigglerontheHoof 21552]

18 minutes ago, Lobo said:

 

I'm kinda torn between these two points on the "giving a shit" spectrum.  Many of these people never really had a chance.  They blamed the media hoaxes or Mexicans or socialism up until the end of their life, but they were always gonna be victims of something stupid---losing all their money to a bullshit financial scheme or losing their life to covid when it was virtually totally guaranteed not to have to.  So I get it, I'm starting to feel a modicum of sympathy for them as these stories roll in in greater numbers.  They get pounced on by people looking to manipulate them almost every day of their lives...they just happened to also have the bad luck of being stupid and easily manipulated during a deadly variant of a pandemic.  There are millions of Americans that just can't be reached. 

That said, remember how many people they're infecting on their way out...so yeah, put me down for team "Fuck 'Em" again today and we'll see how we feel tomorrow.

Being stupid has consequences. 

[Underdog 29192]

9 hours ago, brakeman said:

 

24.  Damn.  

[TXSG8R 3362]

7 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

I honestly think the only fix is an overwhelming wave of compassion from those that haven’t been sucked into the vortex. Unfortunately the amount required on an individual level usually ends in sainthood, and I know I’m certainly not capable of it.

The reality is the level of toxicity is fatal. We aren’t coming back from this.

Its not toxicity as much as alternate reality.  Its hard to find common ground when we aren't even speaking the same language.  R sees blue but calls it red, and you cant convince them otherwise.  There is story after story of these people in hospitals arguing that its a hoax, and the doctors are making it up as they are getting prepped for a ventilator they will never walk away from.  Nurses and first responders that work in this shit and seeing the horror first hand are still refusing to vaccinate.  That's a level of cognitive dissonance that you just don't overcome with any amount of compassion.  

I think there are elected idiots that are "victims" as much of this populace.  The true believers like MTG, Cawthorn, etc.  Its not an excuse, but I lump them into the same category as the rural idiot that only ingests right wing media and lives in the echo chamber that only amplifies this shit.  The worst ones are those that know better, but choose the grift, reelection, or ladder climbing over the welfare of our people.  Those motherfuckers should burn.

[Bookman 4764]

I don't feel sympathy for those who recklessly spread misinformation and thus prolonged human suffering. People like R. Loren Sanford, a pastor who used his pulpit to speak about things he did not understand. People who act like authorities and know that others are going to act on their words.

My sympathy is for those who are otherwise innocent but put their trust in the wrong people.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

I am with the journalist who questioned whether keeping visitors out of hospitals was the right decision in terms of facing reality. I understand for health and safety why the protocol was put in place, but at the same time it extends the fantasy for those who want to believe.

[Guest Lobo]

Yes, that's a distinction that needs to be hammered home.  The people who willfully spread this bullshit either through church, substantial social media followings, positions of influence/authority, at schools, etc.  Those are the people upon whose graves we should dance and shout.  

But I am starting to let in a little bit of sorrow for the tens of thousands they're taking out with them.  The stupid that have spent their whole lives thinking they were strong, independent thinkers and the rest of us were the sheep.  When all the while, they were as starved for connection and direction more than any of us.  They were always gonna have a shitty life, just a question of whom they'd blame for it.  But the crappy part for them is, they also happened to be stupid and naive at a time when it could not only wreck your life, it can get your ass dead on a ventilator.  

And they don't know what they are.  They lack the ability to introspect, to see them and their ilk from afar.  They are just another group waiting to be exploited for other means in America.  When they're gone and this thing pandemic is in the rear-view mirror.....we'll look for the next group to prove our point and the world will keep turning.  You're not patriots, you're toys that we use to taunt the other side.  You were born to die.  

Edited September 22, 2021 by Lobo

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

14 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Yes, that's a distinction that needs to be hammered home.  The people who willfully spread this bullshit either through church, substantial social media followings, positions of influence/authority, at schools, etc.  Those are the people upon whose graves we should dance and shout.  

But I am starting to let in a little bit of sorrow for the tens of thousands they're taking out with them.  The stupid that have spent their whole lives thinking they were strong, independent thinkers and the rest of us were the sheep.  When all the while, they were as starved for connection and direction more than any of us.  They were always gonna have a shitty life, just a question of whom they'd blame for it.  But the crappy part for them is, they also happened to be stupid and naive at a time when it could not only wreck your life, it can get your ass dead on a ventilator.  

And they don't know what they are.  They lack the ability to introspect, to see them and their ilk from afar.  They are just another group waiting to be exploited for other means in America.  When they're gone and this thing pandemic is in the rear-view mirror.....we'll look for the next group to prove our point and the world will keep turning.  You're not patriots, you're toys that we use to taunt the other side.  You were born to die.  

From Page One of the COVID-19: Political Talk thread started over one year ago:

On 1/29/2020 at 5:54 PM, Goredho said:

they need to develop a vaccine against stupid.

 

[TXSG8R 3362]

1 minute ago, Lobo said:

Yes, that's a distinction that needs to be hammered home.  The people who willfully spread this bullshit either through church, substantial social media followings, positions of influence/authority, at schools, etc.  Those are the people upon whose graves we should dance and shout.  

But I am starting to let in a little bit of sorrow for the tens of thousands they're taking out with them.  The stupid that have spent their whole lives thinking they were strong, independent thinkers and the rest of us were the sheep.  When all the while, they were as starved for connection and direction more than any of us.  They were always gonna have a shitty life, just a question of whom they'd blame for it.  But the crappy part for them is, they also happened to be stupid and naive at a time when it could not only wreck your life, it can get your ass dead on a ventilator.  

And they don't know what they are.  They lack the ability to introspect, to see them and their ilk from afar.  They are just another group waiting to be exploited for other means in America.  When they're gone and this thing pandemic is in the rear-view mirror.....we'll look for the next group to prove our point and the world will keep turning.  You're not patriots, your toys we use to taunt the other side.  You were born to die.  

Its ignorance, which is different than stupidity.  Some of it is self inflicted, but its largely due to the infrastructure the Rs have built.  If you live in bumfuck nowhere, you grow up on foxnews, your teachers all watch fox news, your school board watches fox news, your pastor watches fox news.  Even for those with a spark of critical thinking get pummeled with elected leaders, doctors, judges, etc that parrot the fox news talking points, so that spark dies under the weight of "credible" misinformation.  

Thats why the Rs have made attacking education and science a big pillar for their platform.  Ignorance is easier to manipulate.  Sure, the downside is regressing to a dark ages level response to a pandemic, but they will get more house seats in their gerrymandered districts full of even bigger idiots to keep the gravy train rolling.  

R summary:

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2153]

24 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I am with the journalist who questioned whether keeping visitors out of hospitals was the right decision in terms of facing reality. I understand for health and safety why the protocol was put in place, but at the same time it extends the fantasy for those who want to believe.

Same.  Numbers are too abstract.  We need images.  

[High Plains Drifter 11190]

16 hours ago, trauma babe said:

She has "two-year ADN degree" written all over her dead face.

God I'm a bitch.

 

true, but you are the bitch we need.

[Beau Vine 55867]

2 hours ago, Bookman said:

I would like to take a second to grieve the deaths of all these antivaxxers.

I would, too.  OK, done.

[C-Man 27781]

4 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

America is completely and utterly broken.

That statement could have gone on a dozen different threads but I feel like this thread is a sad example of just how fucked everything is.

There is no coming back from all of this. The hatred of other will only get worse.

I agree. Americans have a vehicle to broadcast the ugliness that lies beneath the surface that they didn't used to have at their fingertips. I'm learning things every day about people who I hold -- or held -- very dear to my heart that I wish I didn't know. I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me somewhat. I try to stay apolitical on social media and only vent/rant here or with my wife and a couple of select friends who I *know* share my political/moral beliefs.

[Pescado_Rojo 19587]

8 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I agree. Americans have a vehicle to broadcast the ugliness that lies beneath the surface that they didn't used to have at their fingertips. I'm learning things every day about people who I hold -- or held -- very dear to my heart that I wish I didn't know. I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me somewhat. I try to stay apolitical on social media and only vent/rant here or with my wife and a couple of select friends who I *know* share my political/moral beliefs.

I was about to post the same thing almost word for word. 

[GreenspointTexas 9974]

10 hours ago, Grandioso said:

His final words were "I wish that I was vaccinated." Sadly, the media, the government, scientists, and doctors failed to inform everyone that the vaccine is good. 

 

[GreenspointTexas 9974]

Maaaan, fuck all these antivaxx assholes. They deserve to die. The faster they die, the faster we can get through this. They are sucking up beds, resources, and fucking up hospital staff real bad. Healthcare workers at all levels are quitting in numbers never before seen in this country. Like fucking ever.

 

They are pieces of shit. Selfish assholes who dong give a fuck about anyone but themselves. Not their friends, not their family, not a single fellow man. They are driving drunk every day and defending their choice under the guise of personal freedom. But really they are either incredibly dumb or super scared. Coddling their toddler brain and ego is fucking tiring and fruitless. The sooner these fucks die, the better off the world will be… literally…. Because, ya know…. They are literally spreading death. 
 

Ive had healthcare friends die from this (before the vax was available). Ive had many coworkers leave healthcare completely. There is no coming back from this pandemic for most of them. Im still fucking having to wear an N95 for 10-12 hrs a day, 5 days a week, for the past 18 months because of these chuckledicks. 
 

My kids (who are 5) barely remember what the world was like before this. My 4 month old will hopefully not have to wear a mask for 8 hrs a day everyday at daycare/school. The reason we KEEP.HAVING.TO.DO.THIS. is because 30% of our society is (insert insult). While it sad that they are dying, it is the only way we can actually get through this at this point.

 

The sooner they die, the sooner we get to quashing this thing.

The sooner they die, the sooner my kids can have a sleepover with friends.

The sooner they die, the sooner we can let people have elective procedures that may help improve their lives.

The sooner they die, the less we have to worry about walking virus sinks giving us covid.

The sooner they die, the sooner I may be able to actually attend a church service.

The sooner they die, the sooner I can eat indoors at a restaurant.

The sooner they die, the sooner I can scrap my N95, my shitty intubation protocols, and our surgery centers will calm the fuck down because cases can be done at hospitals again.

The sooner they die, the less I have to worry about catching the virus from some antivaxxer and giving it to my newborn or my parents (both are vaxxed).

The sooner they die, the less I have to hear bullshit misinformation from Fox or Q, or faceboo memes, or whatever.

 

 

We are all just tiptoeing around the fact that society as a whole will improve when these potatoes-masquerading-as-“people” choke on their own fire-branded spit as their lungs turn to steel, their kidneys shrivel up like raisins, their atherosclerotic heart clogs like a bad garbage disposal, they get a tube in their throat, urethra, anus (google flexiseal), neck, both arms, chest tubes, nose, their backside becomes covered in pressure ulcers from laying in bed so long, their fingertips and toes start to turn black and flake off from the “jet fuel drips (norepi and epi), their head becomes swollen from all the fluids and ECMO and they look like a frog, their chest becomes sore from all of the broken ribs from chest compressions, and no one is able to be with them as they lay in shit covered agony akin to Dantes 5th circle because they decided to not get a quick, free, easy solution that would have helped not only them, but the world.

 

 

Fuck these fucks.  

[TXSG8R 3362]

5 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Maaaan, fuck all these antivaxx assholes. They deserve to die. The faster they die, the faster we can get through this. They are sucking up beds, resources, and fucking up hospital staff real bad. Healthcare workers at all levels are quitting in numbers never before seen in this country. Like fucking ever.

 

They are pieces of shit. Selfish assholes who dong give a fuck about anyone but themselves. Not their friends, not their family, not a single fellow man. They are driving drunk every day and defending their choice under the guise of personal freedom. But really they are either incredibly dumb or super scared. Coddling their toddler brain and ego is fucking tiring and fruitless. The sooner these fucks die, the better off the world will be… literally…. Because, ya know…. They are literally spreading death. 
 

Ive had healthcare friends die from this (before the vax was available). Ive had many coworkers leave healthcare completely. There is no coming back from this pandemic for most of them. Im still fucking having to wear an N95 for 10-12 hrs a day, 5 days a week, for the past 18 months because of these chuckledicks. 
 

My kids (who are 5) barely remember what the world was like before this. My 4 month old will hopefully not have to wear a mask for 8 hrs a day everyday at daycare/school. The reason we KEEP.HAVING.TO.DO.THIS. is because 30% of our society is (insert insult). While it sad that they are dying, it is the only way we can actually get through this at this point.

 

The sooner they die, the sooner we get to quashing this thing.

The sooner they die, the sooner my kids can have a sleepover with friends.

The sooner they die, the sooner we can let people have elective procedures that may help improve their lives.

The sooner they die, the less we have to worry about walking virus sinks giving us covid.

The sooner they die, the sooner I may be able to actually attend a church service.

The sooner they die, the sooner I can eat indoors at a restaurant.

The sooner they die, the sooner I can scrap my N95, my shitty intubation protocols, and our surgery centers will calm the fuck down because cases can be done at hospitals again.

The sooner they die, the less I have to worry about catching the virus from some antivaxxer and giving it to my newborn or my parents (both are vaxxed).

The sooner they die, the less I have to hear bullshit misinformation from Fox or Q, or faceboo memes, or whatever.

 

 

We are all just tiptoeing around the fact that society as a whole will improve when these potatoes-masquerading-as-“people” choke on their own fire-branded spit as their lungs turn to steel, their kidneys shrivel up like raisins, their atherosclerotic heart clogs like a bad garbage disposal, they get a tube in their throat, urethra, anus (google flexiseal), neck, both arms, chest tubes, nose, their backside becomes covered in pressure ulcers from laying in bed so long, their fingertips and toes start to turn black and flake off from the “jet fuel drips (norepi and epi), their head becomes swollen from all the fluids and ECMO and they look like a frog, their chest becomes sore from all of the broken ribs from chest compressions, and no one is able to be with them as they lay in shit covered agony akin to Dantes 5th circle because they decided to not get a quick, free, easy solution that would have helped not only them, but the world.

 

 

Fuck these fucks.  

[washparkhorn 9973]

I have a recommendation for the willingly unvaccinated - learn to swim.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves
Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dip-shits

Some say the end is near
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon
I certainly hope we will because
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit . . .

One great big festering neon distraction
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied

Learn to swim

Mom's going to fix it all soon
Mom's coming around to put it back the way it ought to be

Spoiler

 

 

[mchookem 16769]

16 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Maaaan, fuck all these antivaxx assholes. They deserve to die. The faster they die, the faster we can get through this. They are sucking up beds, resources, and fucking up hospital staff real bad. Healthcare workers at all levels are quitting in numbers never before seen in this country. Like fucking ever.

 

They are pieces of shit. Selfish assholes who dong give a fuck about anyone but themselves. Not their friends, not their family, not a single fellow man. They are driving drunk every day and defending their choice under the guise of personal freedom. But really they are either incredibly dumb or super scared. Coddling their toddler brain and ego is fucking tiring and fruitless. The sooner these fucks die, the better off the world will be… literally…. Because, ya know…. They are literally spreading death. 
 

Ive had healthcare friends die from this (before the vax was available). Ive had many coworkers leave healthcare completely. There is no coming back from this pandemic for most of them. Im still fucking having to wear an N95 for 10-12 hrs a day, 5 days a week, for the past 18 months because of these chuckledicks. 
 

My kids (who are 5) barely remember what the world was like before this. My 4 month old will hopefully not have to wear a mask for 8 hrs a day everyday at daycare/school. The reason we KEEP.HAVING.TO.DO.THIS. is because 30% of our society is (insert insult). While it sad that they are dying, it is the only way we can actually get through this at this point.

 

The sooner they die, the sooner we get to quashing this thing.

The sooner they die, the sooner my kids can have a sleepover with friends.

The sooner they die, the sooner we can let people have elective procedures that may help improve their lives.

The sooner they die, the less we have to worry about walking virus sinks giving us covid.

The sooner they die, the sooner I may be able to actually attend a church service.

The sooner they die, the sooner I can eat indoors at a restaurant.

The sooner they die, the sooner I can scrap my N95, my shitty intubation protocols, and our surgery centers will calm the fuck down because cases can be done at hospitals again.

The sooner they die, the less I have to worry about catching the virus from some antivaxxer and giving it to my newborn or my parents (both are vaxxed).

The sooner they die, the less I have to hear bullshit misinformation from Fox or Q, or faceboo memes, or whatever.

 

 

We are all just tiptoeing around the fact that society as a whole will improve when these potatoes-masquerading-as-“people” choke on their own fire-branded spit as their lungs turn to steel, their kidneys shrivel up like raisins, their atherosclerotic heart clogs like a bad garbage disposal, they get a tube in their throat, urethra, anus (google flexiseal), neck, both arms, chest tubes, nose, their backside becomes covered in pressure ulcers from laying in bed so long, their fingertips and toes start to turn black and flake off from the “jet fuel drips (norepi and epi), their head becomes swollen from all the fluids and ECMO and they look like a frog, their chest becomes sore from all of the broken ribs from chest compressions, and no one is able to be with them as they lay in shit covered agony akin to Dantes 5th circle because they decided to not get a quick, free, easy solution that would have helped not only them, but the world.

 

 

Fuck these fucks.  

 

[Goredho 17657]

2 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

Same.  Numbers are too abstract.  We need images.  

Flag-draped coffins.

[conVINCEd 21477]

1 minute ago, Goredho said:

Flag-draped coffins.

They don’t deserve the flag.

[Aqua Buddha 14807]

12 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

They don’t deserve the flag.

[Pato del Muerto 53510]

Gadsden flag takes on a whole different meaning when it’s on a coffin. 

[Goredho 17657]

17 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

They don’t deserve the flag.

Burial at sea during a Trump boat parade?