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55 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

something something sanctity of life. something something protecting the unborn. give me a fucking break

 

FWIW, there was a legit issue with pregnant women not taking the vaccine. My wife's boss is married to a doctor, a highly educated one who cares for the elderly. They're both from New York and moved to Houston for respective jobs. She was pregnant with her second child and wouldn't take the vaccine. I'm not sure if that's changed in the last few months with more data, but there's a legit group of folks who aren't lunatics who are cautious about taking the vaccine while pregnant. 

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

FWIW, there was a legit issue with pregnant women not taking the vaccine. My wife's boss is married to a doctor, a highly educated one who cares for the elderly. They're both from New York and moved to Houston for respective jobs. She was pregnant with her second child and wouldn't take the vaccine. I'm not sure if that's changed in the last few months with more data, but there's a legit group of folks who aren't lunatics who are cautious about taking the vaccine while pregnant. 

ok. my friends who had kids during covid all got the shots (to the extent that I can prove). they are fine and so are their babies. guess time will tell

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41 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

FWIW, there was a legit issue with pregnant women not taking the vaccine. My wife's boss is married to a doctor, a highly educated one who cares for the elderly. They're both from New York and moved to Houston for respective jobs. She was pregnant with her second child and wouldn't take the vaccine. I'm not sure if that's changed in the last few months with more data, but there's a legit group of folks who aren't lunatics who are cautious about taking the vaccine while pregnant. 

That makes sense to me for expecting and those trying to get pregnant to be super cautious. Birth defects are one effect that can’t be immediately documented and measured, and there’s recent history of an issue coming to light months after the drug hit the market. 

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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

FWIW, there was a legit issue with pregnant women not taking the vaccine. My wife's boss is married to a doctor, a highly educated one who cares for the elderly. They're both from New York and moved to Houston for respective jobs. She was pregnant with her second child and wouldn't take the vaccine. I'm not sure if that's changed in the last few months with more data, but there's a legit group of folks who aren't lunatics who are cautious about taking the vaccine while pregnant. 

I think it is better to say there was legit reason to be cautious. I'm not aware of any evidence of dangers to pregnant women from the vaccine (our doctor did tell us we should treat my wife as at elevated risk to Covid itself early the pandemic). But I don't think we had much information on vaccine safety specifically in regards to pregnant women, at least early on, so it would have been reasonable not to be first in line for the shot. That said, studies since then have indicated the vaccines are safe for pregnant women. Granted, I believe these were observational studies. I am not sure if any controlled clinical trials have specifically targeted pregnant women. 

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https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejme2107070

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In this issue of the Journal, Shimabukuro et al.6 provide much-needed preliminary data on the safety of these vaccines in pregnancy on the basis of the v-safe surveillance system and pregnancy registry. V-safe, a new smartphone-based surveillance system from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that is available to all Covid-19 vaccine recipients, sends text messages to assess general health and pregnancy status during a period of 12 months after vaccination. Persons who identify as pregnant can enroll in the v-safe pregnancy registry, which contacts participants by telephone to answer in-depth questions.

The report by Shimabukuro et al. includes safety results for 35,691 v-safe participants 16 to 54 years of age who identified as pregnant and the first 3958 participants who enrolled in the v-safe pregnancy registry. In both cohorts, 54% of the participants received the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine and 46% received the Moderna vaccine. The age distribution, status with respect to race and ethnic group, and timing of the first dose were similar with each vaccine. Among v-safe participants, 86.5% had a known pregnancy at the time of vaccination, and 13.5% reported a positive pregnancy test after vaccination. Among v-safe pregnancy registry participants, 28.6% received vaccine in the first trimester, 43.3% in the second trimester, and 25.7% in the third trimester.

Among 827 registry participants who reported a completed pregnancy, 104 experienced spontaneous abortions and 1 had a stillbirth. A total of 712 pregnancies (86.1%) resulted in a live birth, mostly among participants who received their first vaccination dose in the third trimester. Among live-born infants, the incidences of preterm birth (9.4%), small size for gestational age (3.2%), and congenital anomalies (2.2%) were consistent with those expected on the basis of published literature. There were no neonatal deaths. These are reassuring data based on reports from pregnant women mostly vaccinated in the third trimester.

 

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Pregnant women are, first and foremost, concerned with the health of their unborn child, and some have had reservations about getting the COVID-19 vaccine—only about a third of pregnant women are fully vaccinated.

But a new study of more than 46,000 pregnant women shows that COVID-19 vaccination does not increase the risk of delivering a premature baby or of having a baby born smaller than expected—both of which are linked to higher chances of infant death and disability. 

The study, which adds to existing evidence that COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy is safe, was published on Jan. 4, 2022, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); Heather Lipkind, MD, a Yale Medicine obstetrician-gynecologist and high-risk pregnancy specialist, was its lead author. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

FWIW, there was a legit issue with pregnant women not taking the vaccine. My wife's boss is married to a doctor, a highly educated one who cares for the elderly. They're both from New York and moved to Houston for respective jobs. She was pregnant with her second child and wouldn't take the vaccine. I'm not sure if that's changed in the last few months with more data, but there's a legit group of folks who aren't lunatics who are cautious about taking the vaccine while pregnant. 

Yeah, I remember early on that they just didn't know how it might affect pregnant women and the babies.  I think that's been sorted now that we have the data, but I don't know for sure.

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22 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Kari Lake: I took 6 pills of ivermectin.

Aide: Uh, Kari, 6 pills would cause you shit out the decomposed remains of your liver.

Kari Lake: I mean I took 3 pills of ivermectin.

 

 

I was hoping the second tweet was posted at least six hours later so plenty of the stupids would have already taken six pills. 

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 Tower Health surgeon has been fired following allegations she prescribed ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to patients to treat COVID.

According to a statement from Tower Health, officials at the hospital became aware of accusations levied at Dr. Edith Behr on Wednesday.

“Tower Health became aware yesterday of the allegations involving Dr. Edith Behr prescribing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID-19,” a statement released Thursday says. “We investigated the matter and, as a result, Dr. Behr’s employment with Tower Health Medical Group has been terminated effective immediately.”

The statement says that neither drug has been approved by the FDA for prevention or treatment of COVID.

An updated statement from Tower Health issued Friday said that while physicians may prescribe ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for things other than their approve purposes, Behr did not follow the rules for doing so.

“While a licensed physician may prescribe approved medications for ‘off-label’ purposes, the prescribing process must adhere to the requirements of medical licensure, as well as Tower Health Medical Group policies, including the physician conducting an appropriate patient history and assessment, including allergies and potential medication interactions, and documenting dosage amount, timing, etc. in the patient’s medical record.

“Our investigation determined Dr. Behr did not meet these requirements and, as a result, Dr. Behr’s employment with Tower Health Medical Group has been terminated effective immediately.”

Behr could not immediately be reached for comment.

Behr has been connected in media reports to a Lebanon County woman who has been using the Facebook page of a Palmyra restaurant to help people obtain ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

The Facebook page features several videos of Christine Mason, identified as Taste of Sicily owner Silvana Drill’s daughter, offering to help people get access to the drugs. She doesn’t use the names of the drugs — referring to them as “I” and “H” — but comments by viewers on the video make clear that she is referring to ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

Mason says in the videos that she is in contact with a Wyomissing doctor who will provide prescriptions for the drugs.

PennLive first reported Tuesday that complaints about the Taste of Sicily restaurant and Mason have been turned over to the state attorney general.

A statement from Lebanon County District Attorney Pier Hess Graf sent to the Reading Eagle on Thursday confirmed the office was made aware of the complaints and that they have been referred to the state attorney general.

Hess Graf’s statement read:

“On Monday, my Office received phone calls and emails which made various complaints against Taste of Sicily; the majority of those were done anonymously. We reached out to law enforcement and inquired if any additional complaints were made to individual police departments. Police indicated they received complaints, and a preliminary investigation showed allegations of misconduct which potentially spanned multiple counties. Our jurisdiction covers only Lebanon County.  A referral to the attorney general’s office was already made by the police department itself. As a result, we did not take any further steps on the matter. The AG maintains statewide jurisdiction and thus is the appropriate entity to look into multiple-county criminal allegations. I spoke with the AG’s Office on Tuesday; they are aware of the matter.”

Officials from the state attorney general’s office on Thursday said they “cannot confirm or deny our office’s involvement in this matter.”

On Thursday PennLive reported on Behr’s firing and connected her to Mason, saying she was the doctor providing prescriptions for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine that Mason spoke about on social media.

The Reading Eagle could not independently verify that Behr is the doctor working with Mason or that she lives in Wyomissing.

According to a biography on the Tower Health website that has since been taken down, Behr was a general surgeon for Tower Health Medical Group Surgery, Pottstown. She was listed as being affiliated with Pottstown and Phoenixville hospitals.

Tower Health’s statement about Behr concludes by urging people to stay vigilant in the fight against COVID.

“Tower Health encourages all eligible individuals to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and to practice appropriate masking and social distancing,” it says. “These are the best options for discouraging the spread of the virus, and to minimize risk of serious illness, hospitalization, and death. We will continue to follow recommendations from the CDC and other health authorities in the treatment of the COVID-19 virus.”

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On 2/2/2022 at 5:09 PM, Chewbacca said:

Yeah, I remember early on that they just didn't know how it might affect pregnant women and the babies.  I think that's been sorted now that we have the data, but I don't know for sure.

I wouldn't blame a pregnant woman for deciding against the vaccine while pregnant. But then she needs to effectively stay locked up at home including others in the house.  If you're going to protect your unborn child, then actually do so. Don't pick and choose the safety measures.

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11 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

Given this is a non-partisan board, I guess we can all agree that she qualifies for the FAFO thread. Not only is she at high risk but she set herself up with some nice PR for her electIon run.

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She's not at high risk if she's vaccinated...which she is. I agree that was a dumb self-inflicted wound to her campaign, though. 

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2 hours ago, lemonlime said:

Not sure where the hell this goes.  The streams are crossing between Covid FAFO and voter suppression:

 

Although I still find these anti-vaxx peddlers to be evil and unChristian, since I had a real fucking bizarre and scary 48 hours during the Covid-19 outbreak in my house where I couldn't even drink water without projectile vomiting it out, I kinda shied away from this thread and didn't want to wish anything on anyone as I was wishing nobody was wishing anything bad on me.  

Having said that, I hope this fucking guy goes out in flames and in horrible, horrible pain.  I hope 10 years from now, some public school district in some minority part of Wichita or Overland Park invites his widow and family to a ribbon-cutting for a new middle school they say is named after him.  And then when they unveil the new signage, it just "Psych!  Still Booker T. Washington Middle School.  And your husband is just a dead asshole!"

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On 2/2/2022 at 4:57 PM, Bama Chick said:

Pregnant women fare HORRIBLE when they get COVID. Like, dead mothers abound horrible.

Our OBs are hectoring every pregnant person they know to get vaccinated.

Serious question. Have you seen it possibly cause miscarriages and the mother survives? 

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On 2/7/2022 at 2:59 PM, Gil Bang said:

 Tower Health surgeon has been fired following allegations she prescribed ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to patients to treat COVID.

According to a statement from Tower Health, officials at the hospital became aware of accusations levied at Dr. Edith Behr on Wednesday.

“Tower Health became aware yesterday of the allegations involving Dr. Edith Behr prescribing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID-19,” a statement released Thursday says. “We investigated the matter and, as a result, Dr. Behr’s employment with Tower Health Medical Group has been terminated effective immediately.”

The statement says that neither drug has been approved by the FDA for prevention or treatment of COVID.

An updated statement from Tower Health issued Friday said that while physicians may prescribe ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for things other than their approve purposes, Behr did not follow the rules for doing so.

“While a licensed physician may prescribe approved medications for ‘off-label’ purposes, the prescribing process must adhere to the requirements of medical licensure, as well as Tower Health Medical Group policies, including the physician conducting an appropriate patient history and assessment, including allergies and potential medication interactions, and documenting dosage amount, timing, etc. in the patient’s medical record.

“Our investigation determined Dr. Behr did not meet these requirements and, as a result, Dr. Behr’s employment with Tower Health Medical Group has been terminated effective immediately.”

Behr could not immediately be reached for comment.

Behr has been connected in media reports to a Lebanon County woman who has been using the Facebook page of a Palmyra restaurant to help people obtain ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

The Facebook page features several videos of Christine Mason, identified as Taste of Sicily owner Silvana Drill’s daughter, offering to help people get access to the drugs. She doesn’t use the names of the drugs — referring to them as “I” and “H” — but comments by viewers on the video make clear that she is referring to ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

Mason says in the videos that she is in contact with a Wyomissing doctor who will provide prescriptions for the drugs.

PennLive first reported Tuesday that complaints about the Taste of Sicily restaurant and Mason have been turned over to the state attorney general.

A statement from Lebanon County District Attorney Pier Hess Graf sent to the Reading Eagle on Thursday confirmed the office was made aware of the complaints and that they have been referred to the state attorney general.

Hess Graf’s statement read:

“On Monday, my Office received phone calls and emails which made various complaints against Taste of Sicily; the majority of those were done anonymously. We reached out to law enforcement and inquired if any additional complaints were made to individual police departments. Police indicated they received complaints, and a preliminary investigation showed allegations of misconduct which potentially spanned multiple counties. Our jurisdiction covers only Lebanon County.  A referral to the attorney general’s office was already made by the police department itself. As a result, we did not take any further steps on the matter. The AG maintains statewide jurisdiction and thus is the appropriate entity to look into multiple-county criminal allegations. I spoke with the AG’s Office on Tuesday; they are aware of the matter.”

Officials from the state attorney general’s office on Thursday said they “cannot confirm or deny our office’s involvement in this matter.”

On Thursday PennLive reported on Behr’s firing and connected her to Mason, saying she was the doctor providing prescriptions for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine that Mason spoke about on social media.

The Reading Eagle could not independently verify that Behr is the doctor working with Mason or that she lives in Wyomissing.

According to a biography on the Tower Health website that has since been taken down, Behr was a general surgeon for Tower Health Medical Group Surgery, Pottstown. She was listed as being affiliated with Pottstown and Phoenixville hospitals.

Tower Health’s statement about Behr concludes by urging people to stay vigilant in the fight against COVID.

“Tower Health encourages all eligible individuals to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and to practice appropriate masking and social distancing,” it says. “These are the best options for discouraging the spread of the virus, and to minimize risk of serious illness, hospitalization, and death. We will continue to follow recommendations from the CDC and other health authorities in the treatment of the COVID-19 virus.”

I'm sure this is a major medical malpractice liability exposure for the hospital.

 

21 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Its so fucking cold stone rock-stupid dumb that it makes me question voting for her (assuming I lived in Georgia, which I don't). However <deleted to avoid CR>

 

 

 

Agreed. Really, really sloppy to allow that to happen.

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27 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

This tweet can actually serve the narrative of both sides of the covid vaccine/treatment debate. Pro-ivermectin people can say the delay of receiving that treatment led to his death.

I'm sure his family will file a medical malpractice suit. And with a Mississippi jury hearing he was denied horse dewormer will award them millions.

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If you want to take ivermectin to combat a Covid infection, just don’t go to the hospital. Then you can take all you want.   
 

also, just read the headline, but why do you need a court order to leave a hospital?  Why couldn’t they discharge AMA as soon as the wormer suggestion was shot down?

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24 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If you want to take ivermectin to combat a Covid infection, just don’t go to the hospital. Then you can take all you want.   
 

also, just read the headline, but why do you need a court order to leave a hospital?  Why couldn’t they discharge AMA as soon as the wormer suggestion was shot down?

GOod question. If you’re unable to make a decision on your own, and haven’t legally defined who can make such decisions, does the doctor take over the decisions until a court might overrule the doctor?

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