Texas Governor's Race 2022

[staboner 4984]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

So are we starting to think the third-party option is a real thing?

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i wish we had a third party. fuck anything to break up this slow bleed we are living

how you homies doing?

has any R candidate said they were just gonna kill the migrant children before they even made it to the border? has anyone thought of that idea yet? because man thats a platform. like catching the prerapists 

i bet its on the menu here shortly. 

[bolverk 29708]

10 minutes ago, staboner said:

has any R candidate said they were just gonna kill the migrant children before they even made it to the border? has anyone thought of that idea yet? because man thats a platform.

If one comes forward, they'll undoubtedly get support from the likes of Icono...uhhh... @Macklemore and his Tucker-loving brethren.

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

So are we starting to think the third-party option is a real thing?

He is publicly shit-talking Republican leaders, both state and national, and he seems to have some major grievances with Abbott in particular.  He is absolutely trying to hurt Abbott with Republicans, which could actually hurt a bit in the general if MAGA types stay home.

He seems to have taken a really hard stance against vaccinations.  Really hard.  All Mitch was saying was "hey get the vaccine" and Huffines ain't having none of that.  This is the kind of "True Believer" stuff I'm talking about.  Being publicly angry when a (R) politician is encouraging people to get vaccinated is...weird.

He has Trump people publicly backing him, and his views line up with a theoretical MAGA party.

Fox News has turned against Abbott.

If Huffines wins, he would try to dump property taxes, which would make him and his buddies a shitload of money.  Clear financial motives there, that he doesn't hide. 

But....there is no way his current internal polling shows he will win his primary, and while he's picking up a few hundred new followers a day, there's not much social media engagement there.  Does anybody here think Huffines would be doing this if he didn't think he'd financially or politically benefit in some way?

So if the election were held today and Abbott or Nameless Democrat wins, Huffines gets absolutely nothing, either financially or politically.

Which leaves the question:  How can Huffines profit from this?  

As long as he is running as a Republican, his only power is scaring Abbott in the primaries somehow (which he is apparently doing), but that power goes away when the primary is done, and Abbott hypothetically tries to swing back to the middle.   But if Huffines somehow swung Trump's endorsement away from Abbott, that would definitely A) Bolster Huffines's ego, his campaign coffers, and his potentially trying to split the field, and B) Freak Abbott the fuck out.

If Huffines makes noises about running third (MAGA) party, that would scare the fuck out of Abbott, so in theory Huffines's people could put it out there to Abbott's people that Abbott better do some things that Huffines wants, or Huffines runs third party and peals off 10% of the voters and gives the Dems the election.  In Huffines's mind, it may not matter how angry Abbott and the TRP are, because he's publicly accused Abbott of being cucked by Biden, etc., and sees Abbott as no different than a Democrat.

But what would Huffines get by giving up running third party against Abbott?  No way Texas Republicans roll back property taxes and go with a state income or a major boost to the sales tax, so there's got to be something else there.

Figure out what Huffines is ultimately trying to get and that will answer your question.  He is actively trying to poison the well for Abbott in the general election, so something is going on, whether it's personal or financial. So the answer to your question is...

 

Edited September 28, 2021 by atomheartbevo

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He is publicly shit-talking Republican leaders, both state and national, and he seems to have some major grievances with Abbott in particular.  He is absolutely trying to hurt Abbott with Republicans, which could actually hurt a bit in the general if MAGA types stay home.
He seems to have taken a really hard stance against vaccinations.  Really hard.  All Mitch was saying was "hey get the vaccine" and Huffines ain't having none of that.  This is the kind of "True Believer" stuff I'm talking about.  Being publicly angry when a ® politician is encouraging people to get vaccinated is...weird.
He has Trump people publicly backing him, and his views line up with a theoretical MAGA party.
Fox News has turned against Abbott.
If Huffines wins, he would try to dump property taxes, which would make him and his buddies a shitload of money.  Clear financial motives there, that he doesn't hide. 
But....there is no way his current internal polling shows he will win his primary, and while he's picking up a few hundred new followers a day, there's not much social media engagement there.  Does anybody here think Huffines would be doing this if he didn't think he'd financially or politically benefit in some way?
So if the election were held today and Abbott or Nameless Democrat wins, Huffines gets absolutely nothing, either financially or politically.
Which leaves the question:  How can Huffines profit from this?  
As long as he is running as a Republican, his only power is scaring Abbott in the primaries somehow (which he is apparently doing), but that power goes away when the primary is done, and Abbott hypothetically tries to swing back to the middle.   But if Huffines somehow swung Trump's endorsement away from Abbott, that would definitely A) Bolster Huffines's ego, his campaign coffers, and his potentially trying to split the field, and B) Freak Abbott the fuck out.
If Huffines makes noises about running third (MAGA) party, that would scare the fuck out of Abbott, so in theory Huffines's people could put it out there to Abbott's people that Abbott better do some things that Huffines wants, or Huffines runs third party and peals off 10% of the voters and gives the Dems the election.  In Huffines's mind, it may not matter how angry Abbott and the TRP are, because he's publicly accused Abbott of being cucked by Biden, etc., and sees Abbott as no different than a Democrat.
But what would Huffines get by giving up running third party against Abbott?  No way Texas Republicans roll back property taxes and go with a state income or a major boost to the sales tax, so there's got to be something else there.
Figure out what Huffines is ultimately trying to get and that will answer your question.  He is actively trying to poison the well for Abbott in the general election, so something is going on, whether it's personal or financial. So the answer to your question is...

 

Maybe he’s just a psychopath dickbag….or a perfect GQP pol….but I repeat myself.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4977]

I think politicians tend to think long term when it comes to elections. If he can get enough voters in the primary, he may think he can continue to criticize Abbott during the next term to get enough of a base to primary him next time.

[wildcat09 29376]

10 hours ago, bolverk said:

If one comes forward, they'll undoubtedly get support from the likes of Icono...uhhh... @Macklemore and his Tucker-loving brethren.

No, didn't you hear that he went to church and prayed and realized he was wrong? Now he doesn't want to shoot immigrant children himself, he wants federal agents to drop them off in the middle of the Mexican desert with no food or water. That's way more humane and completely acceptable according to his faith.

[DonkeyCigars 143]

Just to humor a policy discussion-- what are the implications of dropping property taxes and making them much lower like other states (or dropping them altogether, which seems to be Huffines red-meat campaign promise, but likely impossible?)?

I ask because on the surface, that seems like a great thing for people who pay (and gripe) about property taxes in Texas and wish to pay less (or as low as legally possible).

Other states seem to have low property taxes, but they have a state tax (boo). Could we do away with premium property taxes and increase the sales tax maybe?

If this sort of discussion is out of place on this particular thread and this is more for jockeying on who's going to be who in the zoo, then please disregard.

[JimmyJames 12271]

11 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Just to humor a policy discussion-- what are the implications of dropping property taxes and making them much lower like other states (or dropping them altogether, which seems to be Huffines red-meat campaign promise, but likely impossible?)?

I ask because on the surface, that seems like a great thing for people who pay (and gripe) about property taxes in Texas and wish to pay less (or as low as legally possible).

Other states seem to have low property taxes, but they have a state tax (boo). Could we do away with premium property taxes and increase the sales tax maybe?

If this sort of discussion is out of place on this particular thread and this is more for jockeying on who's going to be who in the zoo, then please disregard.

The downside is the government goes bankrupt unless an income tax is instituted. 

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Oh and a lot of rich assholes like huffines make out like bandits. Forgot that one. 

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4 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

The downside is the government goes bankrupt unless an income tax is instituted. 

I thought that might be the case, which is why I think if you reduce or make property tax nominal, we need to increase an existing tax (sales/consumption tax) or levy new taxes that don't exist today to counterbalance. I'm assuming Huffines is just trying to sell the pipe dream of abolishing property taxes to incite the passions of people without being practical and a realistic option.

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5 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

The downside is the government goes bankrupt unless an income tax is instituted. 

Which will go over really well with a lot of people.  

[Longhorn_Fan68 33887]

2 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

I thought that might be the case, which is why I think if you reduce or make property tax nominal, we need to increase an existing tax (sales/consumption tax) or levy new taxes that don't exist today to counterbalance. I'm assuming Huffines is just trying to sell the pipe dream of abolishing property taxes to incite the passions of people without being practical and a realistic option.

Like every Republican before him in my lifetime he is fucking lying to get elected. Period. End of story. He's not going to abolish shit. He's not going to secure shit. He's a lying shitgibbon whose 15 minutes should have been up a long time ago. But if he succeeds in weakening the R's chances of retaining the governorship, then by all means, troll away!

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Get that voting audit fired up, tho.

[DonkeyCigars 143]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Like every Republican before him in my lifetime he is fucking lying to get elected. Period. End of story. He's not going to abolish shit. He's not going to secure shit. He's a lying shitgibbon whose 15 minutes should have been up a long time ago. But if he succeeds in weakening the R's chances of retaining the governorship, then by all means, troll away!

Agreed. 

But running on a platform that is not realistic but emotionally feels good to people seems to be the non-centrist approach.

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3 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Oh and a lot of rich assholes like huffines make out like bandits. Forgot that one. 

Rich assholes like huffines and trump want a return to feudalism of the Dark Ages. They are primitivists. 

[Macanudo 13009]

I think there is something else nefarious behind Huffines's property tax issue.   A significant amount of those taxes fund education.  Remember which party consistently tries to either gut public education, return us to the days where creationism is the scientific basis for life and bring God (*the Christian one) back into the classroom.  Suburban and rural (at least the kind he's appealing to) districts see those kind of things as "good".    The suburban families might get a carrot tossed their way with vouchers for private/religious schools (how this is paid, who knows) and the rural God-fearing  voters might get that horrible evolution and "science" out of the classroom.

And if we do gut property taxes, guess which districts will still be able to fund the programs like sports and performing arts?   It won't be poor or minority districts.   

 

 

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

4 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Just to humor a policy discussion-- what are the implications of dropping property taxes and making them much lower like other states (or dropping them altogether, which seems to be Huffines red-meat campaign promise, but likely impossible?)?

I ask because on the surface, that seems like a great thing for people who pay (and gripe) about property taxes in Texas and wish to pay less (or as low as legally possible).

Other states seem to have low property taxes, but they have a state tax (boo). Could we do away with premium property taxes and increase the sales tax maybe?

If this sort of discussion is out of place on this particular thread and this is more for jockeying on who's going to be who in the zoo, then please disregard.

You have a state full of natural resources which looks and functions like a third world country.  You default on things or go bankrupt.  Texas is already a bottom 10 state in terms of infrastructure (roads, dams, bridges, effective and efficient travel systems).  Texas is below average state in terms of their educational system ranking anywhere from 28th to 36th in education for children.  Texas is often ranked in the bottom 10 as far as healthcare by state.  Texas is one of the 10 worst state's in wealth disparity by many rankings.  Much of this is because of the state's tax structure is abhorrent and frankly, stupid.  If you're not going to have a state income tax, and you want to reduce or eliminate property taxes,then increasing sales taxes (which are generally considered a recessive tax) is only exacerbating all the problems with Texas has with it's state's fiscal policy.  

In other words, it's would be the fiscal platform of folks who don't understand economics.

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5 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

You have a state full of natural resources which looks and functions like a third world country.  You default on things or go bankrupt.  Texas is already a bottom 10 state in terms of infrastructure (roads, dams, bridges, effective and efficient travel systems).  Texas is below average state in terms of their educational system ranking anywhere from 28th to 36th in education for children.  Texas is often ranked in the bottom 10 as far as healthcare by state.  Texas is one of the 10 worst state's in wealth disparity by many rankings.  Much of this is because of the state's tax structure is abhorrent and frankly, stupid.  If you're not going to have a state income tax, and you want to reduce or eliminate property taxes,then increasing sales taxes (which are generally considered a recessive tax) is only exacerbating all the problems with Texas has with it's state's fiscal policy.  

In other words, it's would be the fiscal platform of folks who don't understand economics.

So....the Republican party. 

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12 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

I think there is something else nefarious behind Huffines's property tax issue.   A significant amount of those taxes fund education.  Remember which party consistently tries to either gut public education, return us to the days where creationism is the scientific basis for life and bring God (*the Christian one) back into the classroom.  Suburban and rural (at least the kind he's appealing to) districts see those kind of things as "good".    The suburban families might get a carrot tossed their way with vouchers for private/religious schools (how this is paid, who knows) and the rural God-fearing  voters might get that horrible evolution and "science" out of the classroom.

And if we do gut property taxes, guess which districts will still be able to fund the programs like sports and performing arts?   It won't be poor or minority districts.   

 

 

doing away with a public education system would save a ton of money. GoTo all charter and private schools lulz 

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1 hour ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Agreed. 

But running on a platform that is not realistic but emotionally feels good to people seems to be the non-centrist approach.

Look who learned what populism is today.

[C-Man 27254]

31 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

I think there is something else nefarious behind Huffines's property tax issue.   A significant amount of those taxes fund education.  Remember which party consistently tries to either gut public education, return us to the days where creationism is the scientific basis for life and bring God (*the Christian one) back into the classroom.  Suburban and rural (at least the kind he's appealing to) districts see those kind of things as "good".    The suburban families might get a carrot tossed their way with vouchers for private/religious schools (how this is paid, who knows) and the rural God-fearing  voters might get that horrible evolution and "science" out of the classroom.

And if we do gut property taxes, guess which districts will still be able to fund the programs like sports and performing arts?   It won't be poor or minority districts.   

 

 

'Member this? I 'member.

https://www.reformaustin.org/education/huffines-school-education-students-dallas-texas-funding/

https://youtu.be/9SBe0Etopis

[Longhorn94 2457]

57 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

You have a state full of natural resources which looks and functions like a third world country.  You default on things or go bankrupt.  Texas is already a bottom 10 state in terms of infrastructure (roads, dams, bridges, effective and efficient travel systems).  Texas is below average state in terms of their educational system ranking anywhere from 28th to 36th in education for children.  Texas is often ranked in the bottom 10 as far as healthcare by state.  Texas is one of the 10 worst state's in wealth disparity by many rankings.  Much of this is because of the state's tax structure is abhorrent and frankly, stupid.  If you're not going to have a state income tax, and you want to reduce or eliminate property taxes,then increasing sales taxes (which are generally considered a recessive tax) is only exacerbating all the problems with Texas has with it's state's fiscal policy.  

In other words, it's would be the fiscal platform of folks who don't understand economics.

i mean when you put it that way, well uh, i mean, yeah.

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1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

You have a state full of natural resources which looks and functions like a third world country.  You default on things or go bankrupt.  Texas is already a bottom 10 state in terms of infrastructure (roads, dams, bridges, effective and efficient travel systems).  Texas is below average state in terms of their educational system ranking anywhere from 28th to 36th in education for children.  Texas is often ranked in the bottom 10 as far as healthcare by state.  Texas is one of the 10 worst state's in wealth disparity by many rankings.  Much of this is because of the state's tax structure is abhorrent and frankly, stupid.  If you're not going to have a state income tax, and you want to reduce or eliminate property taxes,then increasing sales taxes (which are generally considered a recessive tax) is only exacerbating all the problems with Texas has with it's state's fiscal policy.  

In other words, it's would be the fiscal platform of folks who don't understand economics.

China will pay for the tariffs and Mexico will pay for the wall!!!

 

*Crowd cheers*

 

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2 hours ago, C-Man said:

'Member this? I 'member.

https://www.reformaustin.org/education/huffines-school-education-students-dallas-texas-funding/

https://youtu.be/9SBe0Etopis

He almost looks like a grown-up Billy from Stranger Things, but Billy at least redeemed himself. I don't see anything redeeming about Huffines.

Plus Billy was a hunk as far as the ladies were concerned.

 

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Don is running a bit of a train today.

 

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Huffines is busy retweeting anti-vaxxers.

 

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[Biff Tannen 45712]

5 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

He's not going to abolish shit. He's not going to secure shit.

They're a bunch of fuuuuckin amateurs!

[Texas St. Armadillos 1381]

He sounds like a kid running for Student Council promising to lower the soda machine prices from 75 cents down to 50 cents.

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6 minutes ago, Texas St. Armadillos said:

He sounds like a kid running for Student Council promising to lower the soda machine prices from 75 cents down to 50 cents.

School lunches will be free pizza every day for everyone!!! Except the Mexican students who will be picking up janitorial duties.

 

 

[Foosters 17882]

33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

He almost looks like a grown-up Billy from Stranger Things, but Billy at least redeemed himself. I don't see anything redeeming about Huffines.

Plus Billy was a hunk as far as the ladies were concerned.

 

He looks like Greg Kinnear fucked Chris Kattan and then they had babies and one of the babies was a gimpy little runt.

[mchookem 16367]

25 minutes ago, Texas St. Armadillos said:

He sounds like a kid running for Student Council promising to lower the soda machine prices from 75 cents down to 50 cents.

i mean who wants to eat chiminichangas next year??

[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

14 minutes ago, Foosters said:

He looks like Greg Kinnear fucked Chris Kattan and then they had babies and one of the babies was a gimpy little runt.

Leslie Jordan's meth addict brother

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53 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

He almost looks like a grown-up Billy from Stranger Things, but Billy at least redeemed himself. I don't see anything redeeming about Huffines.

Plus Billy was a hunk as far as the ladies were concerned.

 

I still think he looks like Chris Kattan fucked a Leprechaun.  

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Wonder if the Mogwai's raging tweets spurred Abbott into a little action.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/24/texas-property-tax-bill/

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With the renewed backing of Gov. Greg Abbott, legislation to cut property tax rates is on a fast track through the Texas Legislature.

Republican lawmakers including Abbott have faced pressure from the party’s right flank to target the state’s high property taxes. Backers have pointed to the $19 billion in federal stimulus money that has been set aside for Texas public schools and a nearly $8 billion surplus sitting in state coffers as an opportunity for the state to provide some temporary property tax relief.

 

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3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Wonder if the Mogwai's raging tweets spurred Abbott into a little action.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/24/texas-property-tax-bill/

 

Lmao temporary tax relief.

Sure, Jan. 

[Satchel 6948]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Huffines is busy retweeting anti-vaxxers.

 

Has  anybody taken the time to explain to him that this isn’t just about him?

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Allen West doesn't want you to forget about him, even though he has fewer followers than Huffines.

 

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He and Huffines aren't letting up on the vaccine stuff.  Can't believe how stupid the GOP is these days.  These motherfuckers would have done everything they could to keep polio going.

 

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I know this in my heart, even if I can't prove it:

If Don Huffines had went in the military, he too would be a retired Lieutenant Colonel.

[Brisketexan 105273]

He and Huffines aren't letting up on the vaccine stuff.  Can't believe how stupid the GOP is these days.  These motherfuckers would have done everything they could to keep polio going.
 

It’s a race to the bottom. That’s literally the only direction or purpose the GQP has.

But there is no bottom.

So you see how this will end.

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Fitlump draws a bigger crowd.

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I know this in my heart, even if I can't prove it:

If Don Huffines had went in the military, he too would be a retired Lieutenant Colonel.

Or he’d have gotten fragged by his own men. 

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6 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Or he’d have gotten fragged by his own men. 

Leadership.  No excuses.

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[Pescado_Rojo 19428]

It always comes back to the genitals with these sickos. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20471]

It's as if Texans have given up hope. Abbott? Nope. O'Rourke? Nope.  McConaughey? Nope.