Texas Governor's Race 2022

[Js1 87208]

17 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Beto's jumping into the race is probably the best thing Abbott could have hoped for...

Democrats in Texas need to get their shit together and have an actual plan / candidate before things are ever going to change.

 

It's just like the California Newson recall... lots of people are on board until they find out who their other choice is.

Beto may and likely will lose, but he's the best organizer Texas has for turnout and registration not named "Donald Trump" in the past decade.  No one else comes close or has even tried.

If his being on the ballot at least helps downballot, that's a win. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26870]

12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Beto may and likely will lose, but he's the best organizer Texas has for turnout and registration not named "Donald Trump" in the past decade.  No one else comes close or has even tried.

100% true. And to me that's the only benefit of a run against Abbott- Beto's people would have the opportunity to build an actual statewide party org. 

Edited September 20, 2021 by Bozo_Casanova

[YChang 3570]

IF the best outcome from Beto running is getting Collier or Jaworski into office, then I would be pretty happy with that. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20932]

55 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

This is true, but there is a risky way to combat that. The problem with the counter strategy is that it's simultaneously the only way to win but also the best way to lose 80-20. Basically once the Republicans start those ads respond with an ad campaign of his own showing images reminiscent of school shootings, dead schoolchildren, guns killing kids, etc. Then close with a well crafted line saying something like "They're right, Beto O'Rourke doesn't want this to happen anymore. Why don't they agree?" Something like that.

It's an extremely difficult thing to do right (I couldn't for sure). But if it hits just right it takes that issue away. If it hits wrong then everyone in the state hates him and he's done. So in the end you're right, he won't win.

Show Beto dove hunting first, blasting a few doves out of the sky while his good-looking dog chases them down.  Then turn to the El Paso imagery.

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Beto will never win an election in Texas for the forseeable future after the gun thing. That is just wasted time. The GQP will run endless commercials on loop with him yelling about taking guns, then some generic statement about "errmahgurd socialism/communism" and that will be enough. We have too many simpletons in this state that are single issues voters and can't look at the bigger picture of where this state is headed. 

And if it wasn’t guns, they’d run his speech defending Colin Kapernick or his statements about universal healthcare or climate change or his statements on immigration and say the same shit.

Again, anyone who is ripe for those bullshit messages are NEVER VOTING FOR BETO ANYWAY.

Again, polls show Texans are closer to Beto’s position than Abbott’s.

Shit, TRP won’t have to even say boo about the guns thing because bed wetting Democrats will do the job for them by concern trolling about it.

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

This.

Change the subject - keep making Abbott answer for COVID, usurping local leadership to appease the rural crowds when it comes to COVID, and the abortion law. 

Shit I wouldn’t even bring up abortion. Say you will let the Supreme Court make its ruling.  Democrats need as much of the Catholic vote as possible.  But add fixing the power grid to the list.  

[Smax 3800]

Jfc this should be blowing up, if its state sponsored censoring.

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

49 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

And if it wasn’t guns, they’d run his speech defending Colin Kapernick or his statements about universal healthcare or climate change or his statements on immigration and say the same shit.

Again, anyone who is ripe for those bullshit messages are NEVER VOTING FOR BETO ANYWAY.

Again, polls show Texans are closer to Beto’s position than Abbott’s.

Shit, TRP won’t have to even say boo about the guns thing because bed wetting Democrats will do the job for them by concern trolling about it.

This is wrong. Plenty of Texas who love guns also hate Abbott’s response to covid and his assault on women’s rights.     Including many young professionals in my social circle (many are registered Democrats).

Beto really fucked himself and the state with those comments.

just gotta hope, they realize Beto can’t really do anything about guns, but he can do a lot to protect the rights of women / BIPoCs 

 

Edited September 20, 2021 by Xian

[Longhorn94 2501]

Beto and democrats can't be afraid. they need to be aggressive and go after Abbott. Be genuine and honest. Beto's values and morals and views align more closely with more Texans than Abbott's. But he needs to go out there and show that, not hide or run from it. LFG!!!!!!

 

 

[David Dennison 19560]

48 minutes ago, Smax said:

Jfc this should be blowing up, if its state sponsored censoring.

Party of small government.

[Post Oak 20570]

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I hope Beto runs but I hope he makes some changes from his senatorial race.  I'm all for positivity but he also needs to be more of a sniper.  For example after one the the Cruz debates the moderator asked both of them to say something nice about the other.  Beto said something nice about Cruz and Cruz went low. 

 

I want Beto to say nothing nice about Abbott at all.  I want him to hit him with Covid and abortion and the ice storm and everything else.  If he calls him Governor Hot Wheels he can take all my money. 

[Longhorn94 2501]

he was too nice to Cruz. and he was too nice to his friend Castro in the debates. If he doesnt realize that he needs to FIGHT for Texans, then he won't win.

[Pig Bellmont 8887]

Public opinion favors masking, vaccines, and is against the draconian abortion bill. If I were Beto, I’d be trying to make the election about Covid and the bounty system bullshit. Throw in failure to protect the electric grid for good measure. There’s a winning message out there for Dems in TX, but companies like Apple need to start speaking out about the women’s rights issues. If people think Abbott’s social policies may negatively impact the economy, it’s got a better shot of resonating with more voters. 

it’s still probably too steep a hill to climb. I bet Abbott wins with something like 57% of the vote. 

[fattyflattie 4640]

2 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Show Beto dove hunting first, blasting a few doves out of the sky while his good-looking dog chases them down.  Then turn to the El Paso imagery.

 

Wouldn’t hurt.  Just a good ol boy with 9 figure in-laws and an Ivy League education, out here enjoying this Texas holiday. I’m sure no one will see thru more of his bullshit. 

[Js1 87208]

6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Wouldn’t hurt.  Just a good ol boy with 9 figure in-laws and an Ivy League education, out here enjoying this Texas holiday. I’m sure no one will see thru more of his bullshit. 

You basically described a shit ton of Republicans in Texas who decry the ivy school elites and have degrees from Harvard, Yale, etc. and post shitty brisket pictures while posing in front of their pickup trucks that would never grace their driveways in River Oaks. 

Edited September 20, 2021 by Js1

[MonkeyDoughnut 10807]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Beto may and likely will lose, but he's the best organizer Texas has for turnout and registration not named "Donald Trump" in the past decade.  No one else comes close or has even tried.

If his being on the ballot at least helps downballot, that's a win. 

And I'd bet money that's the Texas Democratic party take on it. It's a loser mentality. Abbott has made Texas free for the taking from the top down.  Get someone who has a chance and let Beto support them and campaign for them. Down ballot is great, but flipping the Governor seat changes the narrative completely for years to come. If they can't formulate a strategy to beat Abbott given all the ammunition they have been given by Abbott himself how are they ever going to get over the hump??

[fattyflattie 4640]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

You basically described a shit ton of Republicans in Texas who decry the ivy school elites and have degrees from Harvard, Yale, etc. and post shitty brisket pictures while posing in front of their pickup trucks that would never grace their driveways in River Oaks. 

I know.  It's stupid.  The difference is most of them (even if they don't gaf about the 2nd) don't proclaim they are an ally, then in a whimsical emotion fueled twist, change their mind during an election.  I'm sorry the 50 school shootings wasn't enough to dissuade his opinion earlier, but I only he can answer to that. 

[DonkeyCigars 143]

It's worth a call back and re-reading the article that was the beginning of the end of Beto O'Rourke's political career: "I was born to be in it". Vanity Fair should be credited with the kill, but it will likely go to Abbott. Much like pneumonia gets the COD for a lot of deaths that wre really something else.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/beto-orourke-cover-story

[Gap03 3394]

6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

 I'm sorry the 50 school shootings wasn't enough to dissuade his opinion earlier, but I only he can answer to that. 

[fattyflattie 4640]

14 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

You don’t recall his “pro-gun” stance before actual Hispanics got murdered?  

[Pescado_Rojo 19591]

46 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Wouldn’t hurt.  Just a good ol boy with 9 figure in-laws and an Ivy League education, out here enjoying this Texas holiday. I’m sure no one will see thru more of his bullshit. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19591]

3 hours ago, YChang said:

IF the best outcome from Beto running is getting Collier or Jaworski into office, then I would be pretty happy with that. 

 

10 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

 

If Wooderson runs, he can probably just rip off some Jordan Peterson speeches, and that will be enough to win.  Taking specific stands on abortion and gun control are poison to getting elected.  Speaking in platitudes that sound like common sense, being famous, and making people feel good are goldmines for getting elected.   Good luck with your school shooting advertisements.

Governor Wooderson and Lt Gov Collier/Jaworski would be a 1,000% improvement over the current situation. Even if MM does nothing for 4 years but cut ribbons at strip mall openings, at least he wouldn't be actively trying to get people killed. 

[Brisketexan 106950]

6 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

 

Governor Wooderson and Lt Gov Collier/Jaworski would be a 1,000% improvement over the current situation. Even if MM does nothing for 4 years but cut ribbons at strip mall openings, at least he wouldn't be actively trying to get people killed. 

I don't know.....he got people drunk and then let them climb the moontower, and that's pretty f'n dangerous.

[tantric superman 4668]

4 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Beto's jumping into the race is probably the best thing Abbott could have hoped for...

Sure.  He'd rather Beto be running against him than no one be running against him.

Nothing worse than be able to focus on your primary.

 

[Js1 87208]

11 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

 

Governor Wooderson and Lt Gov Collier/Jaworski would be a 1,000% improvement over the current situation. Even if MM does nothing for 4 years but cut ribbons at strip mall openings, at least he wouldn't be actively trying to get people killed. 

Which was mostly what the Texas Governor was supposed to be - a weak office.  Perry really changed that, mostly due to tenure and ensuring basically everyone appointed to jobs owed allegiance to him, and then Abbott ratcheted it up to 11 acting like a dictator with emergency powers and the Governor was actually Emperor. 

[Hmbre97 6337]

Ted Cruz seems like the type of guy who holds a spinning rod with the reel on top and has to get someone else to bait his hook.

[TheStoicPaisano 9953]

I hope he rolls overboard. I get the impression he’d be complete deadweight a la an inflatable mattress.

[WBT 20989]

6 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I would think someone at UT made the call to pull the ad. 

God I would hope so.  You don't get in position to run UT by being that bad at politics.

[Hmbre97 6337]

From April 2021
Do you support or oppose a nationwide ban on the sale of semiautomatic assault weapons

48% strongly support/support
33% strongly oppose/ oppose
19% neutral
https://www.uttyler.edu/politicalscience/files/dmn-uttylerapril2021rv.pdf

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[fattyflattie 4640]

1 hour ago, Hmbre97 said:

Ted Cruz seems like the type of guy who holds a spinning rod with the reel on top and has to get someone else to bait his hook.

When this pic was first circulated, I remember commenting that there is 0.0000% chance he casted that.  I'm assuming he just pushed the button, let it fall to bottom, and some poor guide had to unfuck that bird's nest.   

[South Austin 53231]

The phrase “all hat and no cattle” was made for poser fucksticks like Ted Cruz.

[atomheartbevo 90662]

This is what is driving Abbott.

And going back to earlier - the idea of Huffines tanking him with the MAGA crowd, whether it's a third-party run, or just poisoning the well and keeping MAGA home, still terrifies him.

 

[atomheartbevo 90662]

And Huffines retweeted this, probably hoping to force Abbott to take a position on horse paste.

 

[atomheartbevo 90662]

3 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

it’s still probably too steep a hill to climb. I bet Abbott wins with something like 57% of the vote. 

With Trump doing a little campaigning for him, he won with less than 56% in 2018 against no-name Lupe Valdez from Dallas.

A lot has changed since then, and a competent Democrat should be able to narrow that substantially, especially given that Abbott abandoned moderates and independents to chase after MAGA.

[elfenix 34754]

nevermind completely misread

Edited September 20, 2021 by elfenix

[atomheartbevo 90662]

5 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

Beto and democrats can't be afraid. they need to be aggressive and go after Abbott. Be genuine and honest. Beto's values and morals and views align more closely with more Texans than Abbott's. But he needs to go out there and show that, not hide or run from it. LFG!!!!!!

4 hours ago, Post Oak said:

I want Beto to say nothing nice about Abbott at all.  I want him to hit him with Covid and abortion and the ice storm and everything else.  If he calls him Governor Hot Wheels he can take all my money. 

4 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

he was too nice to Cruz. and he was too nice to his friend Castro in the debates. If he doesnt realize that he needs to FIGHT for Texans, then he won't win.

3 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Public opinion favors masking, vaccines, and is against the draconian abortion bill. If I were Beto, I’d be trying to make the election about Covid and the bounty system bullshit. Throw in failure to protect the electric grid for good measure. There’s a winning message out there for Dems in TX

All of this.  Abbott went extremely hard right, with nary a thought about how moderates and independents would feel about Abbott turning Texas into the Republic of Gilead.

Abbott opened the door by chasing after the Huffines crowd.  There is a question of whether he is doing this for the primary, and is simply trying to bury Huffines to keep him from making a dent with the MAGA crowd (and/or running third party) and will come back to center for the general, or whether this is for 2024. 

Whether it's about the primary or 2024 doesn't really matter though, other than how long he sticks to the far right - there's blood in the water, and the Democrats need to stop acting like chum and start acting like sharks.    They need to be willing to put the GOP in Texas on trial, even those Republicans like Cruz who aren't up, they need to make sure people are reminded about all of the bullshit Republicans in Texas are pulling.

 

 

[Biff Tannen 46174]

13 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

And Huffines retweeted this, probably hoping to force Abbott to take a position on horse paste.

 

The "more tweets" section when I click on that is just bonkers.  Right in the middle is a tweet from Boebert:  WE'RE BEING INVADED!!!

[tx 3 putt 78717]

Beto needs to ignore the maga counties. Hit the cities and the burbs with an iron fist. Go eat tamales in the valley 

[Born to Run 6601]

I feel like if Beto just backs off the gun thing (maybe pose with a couple uzis dressed like chuck Norris from 90s) the he’ll be good.  Seriously he can say something like “my gun policy will focus on safet and education “ the. Always change the subject to health care and  education. 

He needs to take up quail hunting...

[Satchel 6982]

I would like to see the prevailing view of Texas gun love challenged. I’m not sure we’re as in love with guns a people seem to believe.

[atomheartbevo 90662]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

The "more tweets" section when I click on that is just bonkers.  Right in the middle is a tweet from Boebert:  WE'RE BEING INVADED!!!

The problem with Huffines is that somebody obviously fed him after midnight.

We just need to make sure and not get him wet, and if Abbott were smart, he'd ask Huffines for a debate in the middle of the day, in an open air forum, when the forecast is for clear skies.  Huffines will try and avoid it for safety reasons and ask that it be indoors.

[Paper_jam 852]

4 hours ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I've never seen anyone hold a baitcasting style rod/reel like that. It's sideways.

 

[washparkhorn 9974]

Is there serious candidate for the Democratic Party nomination - other than Beto? 

Didn't he do well in the RGV (please correct me)?

[washparkhorn 9974]

2 minutes ago, Paper_jam said:

I've never seen anyone hold a baitcasting style rod/reel like that. It's sideways.

He's lazy. 

[Guest Lobo]

Is Ted fishing in my leather-weave belt from freshmen year of high school?  nothing says sportsmen like being outfitted by "The Gap:  Angler Edition"  

I'm betting the campaign maximum donation amount that it's looped over itself up front in early 90's style.  

You native Texan gun-owning badasses must be so proud of your fellow Alpha-male tough guy.  Seriously, you guys ever get sick of being so weak?  

[safe sex 12031]

6 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Seriously, you guys ever get sick of being so weak?  

It's their fetish

[Pescado_Rojo 19591]

14 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

He's lazy. 

$100 says he'd never held one in his life before that picture. It's John Kerry with a shotgun level cringe. 

[atomheartbevo 90662]

19 minutes ago, Paper_jam said:

I've never seen anyone hold a baitcasting style rod/reel like that. It's sideways.

I have.

My son, when he was 4 and I handed him a similar setup.  He was sure the crank should always be facing the top.

[atomheartbevo 90662]

11 minutes ago, Lobo said:

You native Texan gun-owning badasses must be so proud of your fellow Alpha-male tough guy.  Seriously, you guys ever get sick of being so weak?  

HEY TED CRUZ WENT TO PRINCETON AND HARVARD WHERE DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL TOUGH GUY?  

[Radical Larry 28822]

Is Ted fishing in my leather-weave belt from freshmen year of high school?  nothing says sportsmen like being outfitted by "The Gap:  Angler Edition"  
I'm betting the campaign maximum donation amount that it's looped over itself up front in early 90's style.  
You native Texan gun-owning badasses must be so proud of your fellow Alpha-male tough guy.  Seriously, you guys ever get sick of being so weak?  

He left his Hypercolor shirt and Girbaud jeans at home.