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Chip Brown: Todd Orlando didn't heed his own advice in Big 12 title game

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We weren’t great on D but our talent wasn’t great either. Hopefully the redshirting players will gain strength and we will generate a pass rush somehow next year.

But in my opinion, as I’ve said many times on here, the 3 man front with a standup undersized but too slow LB/DE is fools gold.

Drop down a big strong DE on the front four edge and run two super fast but hard hitting LB’s. They don’t need to be 230/240. They just need great technique to slip off OL and RB/TE blocks to fill the holes, and then cover speed burners on crossing and out routes. The five DB’s in the back cover the rest.

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  On 12/1/2018 at 11:55 PM, Hamttx said:

But yet most would say they are all better then what OU trotted out there? Other then maybe Murray. Not a single one of OU’s starting 11 would start at Texas. 

And why do all of you give Herman a pass? He had a hand in this as well. He can force a change if he wanted to. To lay it at the feet of Orlando without at least some blame of the head coach is why we see the same shit from the last  four defensive coordinator’s who were employed by Texas.

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I just want to be clear here.  We are talking about the "blame" for taking over a losing football team and only getting to a NY6 bowl in year 2, correct?

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  On 12/2/2018 at 7:22 PM, satyanash said:

Chip Brown: Todd Orlando didn't heed his own advice in Big 12 title game

 

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I think this is the first time in a very long time Chip has written something that made sense.

I thought the same damn thing in the later part of the second qtr.

Fricken OU should of been beaten again yesterday..... Instead our coaches got stupid.

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  On 12/2/2018 at 9:34 PM, Nueces River Rat said:

I think this is the first time in a very long time Chip has written something that made sense.

I thought the same damn thing in the later part of the second qtr.

Fricken OU should of been beaten again yesterday..... Instead our coaches got stupid.

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texas coaches shrivel up instead of putting teams away. See Tulsa. It's a disease needing a swift cure. Someone needs to press Herman on it.

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  On 12/2/2018 at 10:03 PM, NowThis said:

texas coaches shrivel up instead of putting teams away. See Tulsa. It's a disease needing a swift cure. Someone needs to press Herman on it.

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Fair comment......

Reading about Greg Davis consulting on the TEXAS Offense with Herman some during this Season, makes me wonder who Herman might hire to consult and review this Defenses performance for the 2018 Season??

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  It doesn't matter if you drop 8 if OU is only concerned with attacking you deep. Having a pass rush and dropping 8 means OU has to throw into tight windows. Having NO pass rush and dropping 8 means Murray can stand back there and wait for the long routes to open up. Which means only the top of your D is defending.

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Part of the issue with the defense was Herman’s philosophy in close games (which was all of them).

He was a GA under Mack and saw Mack win a high percentage of close games by being a little more conversation down the stretch of games.

You can see Herman doing the exact same thing in games. He has the D keep guys in front of them and force offenses to work their way down the field, hoping they make a mistake.

These days, offenses aren’t making many mistakes. They are scoring. Part of making the defense better is having an offense that doesn’t get quite so conservative at the end of games and scores. That allows the defense to also be more aggressive.

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  On 12/2/2018 at 8:47 PM, sushihorn said:

I just want to be clear here.  We are talking about the "blame" for taking over a losing football team and only getting to a NY6 bowl in year 2, correct?

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The thread is about Orlando. I am simply saying that singling out Orlando is silly in of by itself. If you played ball at this level you would know what happens on Tuesday, Wednesday and usually a half day on Thursday. And the role the DC has during that time frame. Who he speaks with, what his expectations are. Football at this level is a job for not only the coaches, but the players as well. Any criticism of a specific coordinator carries with it criticism of the head coach who signed off on the game plan and the individual performance of those selected to start. Which is a really big deal to those who never get to see their name on the board.

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Christ on a cracker, OU's offense is historically good--and we gave up 39 points.  Included in that is a safety and a TD at the end of the half that never should have happened.  Sometimes your HC has to do you a solid.  We held them to 13 points in the 1st half, and instead of taking a lead to HT, Herman crapped himself.

I'm more concerned why we look like a bunch of pussies in the 4th quarter of half the games.  Offense and defense. 

Also, I'm to the point where I think we should sign 5 DBs every cycle and push the ones that can't keep up out every couple of years.  We need 7 legit DBs in the pipeline at any given time.

That said, I think our future is extremely bright.  Sugar Bowl is way more than I was expecting, and I think we're a 9 win team next year.  2020 is the one I'm eyeing for contending for the CFP.

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  On 12/2/2018 at 9:21 PM, longhornmatt said:

We will be more inexperienced on defense next year, but the flip side is that the young guys are generally more athletic and higher ranked recruits than the guys they will replace.  I think it will probably even out in the wash next year, and the defense will be about the same.  

That isn’t great, but in theory our offense should be a lot better next year if the WRs come back.  I’d like a grad transfer at OT, too.

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I am more concerned about finding a guard or two. Our rushing issues is that our guards can't get movement at the line.

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  On 12/2/2018 at 8:55 PM, ClubWhatever said:
Chip doesn’t mention the fact that Boyd and Davis simply could not cover their receivers.   It was pick your poison.  Get sliced and diced 15 yards at a time, or give up 40 yard chunk plays.  

Expecting DBs to cover receivers for as long as they had to is never going to work out for us.


It starts up front, we get pressure and our guys don’t have to cover as long.
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  On 12/3/2018 at 2:21 PM, Bevo VIII said:


Expecting DBs to cover receivers for as long as they had to is never going to work out for us.


It starts up front, we get pressure and our guys don’t have to cover as long.

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That's where we really miss Poona.  That guy could not only soak up double teams and clog the middle.  He could also split the double team and create pressure right in the QB's face.  Blitzing Malik off his hip almost wasn't fair.

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Your defense was what impressed me the most about the Sugar Bowl win last night.  Georgia could never get up off the mat.  Every time the camera showed Orlando, he just looked like he wanted to kill someone for being told for a month that UGa was going to run all over his squad.

Fantastic job in a tough environment.

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Great read if you want to know more about how our pass coverage schemes work under Orlando.

(Ian Boyd) Inside the Gameplan: Nickel play for 2019

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New Defensive Strategies: Simulated Pressure System

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The Simulated Pressure System

"The low-risk, high-reward pressure package that is super-easy for defensive coordinators—and a flat-out “nightmare” for offensive coordinators, quarterbacks, o-line coaches, and running backs… because it gives your defensive coordinator the ability to dictate, then manipulate protection schemes."

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In simple terms, Simulated Pressure is four-man rushes that attack an aspect of the protection or blocking scheme by overloading that particular player or side. This part of it is no different than any other pressure package. But, the difference in Simulated Pressure is that by only sending four in the rush (and not five), coverage isn’t compromised like a traditional fire zone.

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https://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/film-study/2019/02/102658/film-study-a-new-kind-of-hybrid-defender-has-emerged-in-the-big-12-and-the-rest-of-the-nation-should-take

Great write up from an observer outside of the B12. I knew Campbell was doing good things in Ames, but didn't know Herman was copying it.

Ohio State has had "Joker" players in the past. Called the "Star," they played in the slot. Makes sense what Heacock is doing; move him off the line so he won't be blocked so often.

You'd need a traditional, run-stopping MLB for this. Otherwise you'll get meatballed by traditional power-running teams.



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  On 2/25/2019 at 5:52 PM, Parliament said:

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/film-study/2019/02/102658/film-study-a-new-kind-of-hybrid-defender-has-emerged-in-the-big-12-and-the-rest-of-the-nation-should-take

Great write up from an observer outside of the B12. I knew Campbell was doing good things in Ames, but didn't know Herman was copying it.

Ohio State has had "Joker" players in the past. Called the "Star," they played in the slot. Makes sense what Heacock is doing; move him off the line so he won't be blocked so often.

You'd need a traditional, run-stopping MLB for this. Otherwise you'll get meatballed by traditional power-running teams.



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ISU was dealing out pain to Air Raid teams with this system.  It allowed them to present an almost irresistible 5-man box count then shut down the run by bringing 1 overhang man into the box and 1-2 additional defenders from depth.  Texas was able to beat it with inside zone runs which hit before the insert box defenders could arrive.  When the middle safety started to play 5-7 yds off the ball instead of 8-10 yds off, the dig and curl opened up.

Most spread teams can't do that since they mostly run B-gap, which can be spilled enough to allow defenders from outside the box to make the play.  OU's counter trey is also slow to develop and Heacock did a pretty good job on them.

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