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[GoldAppleCorps 617]

Digging in the recesses of selective memory, I want to say it was 2010 when Texas played Nebraska in Lincoln. Their defensive strategy for that game was to put as many defenders on the LOS as possible, then have the selective few drop during the play.

Crucially, the pressuring defenders favored gap integrity over straight line pressure. The result confused the Husker OL and prevented Taylor Martinez from escaping left or right. He wasn't fast enough mentally to diagnose coverage after the snap, and had no room to roll in order to buy that time.

Hurts is a great QB, but not the meth-addled cockroach runner that Murray was. Scipio documented the weak links on the Sooner OL and how to exploit that. If Keondre Coburn consistently causes a road accident pileup in the middle, Texas has the athletes and scheme to force the issue. It will take more than one player to bring Hurts down, but hitting the opposition hard is something the Texas defense excels at.

OU isn't an offense that can go one-dimensional and live. If the Sooner OL isn't winning battles for the run game, then defending it becomes a matter of keeping CeeDee Lamb in front of you. Concede FGs rather than jog-in TDs.

Are they still using the backup kicker, or do suspensions not apply when the fan base gets antsy?

[Machinator 32097]

 

[VinyVango 677]

On 10/5/2019 at 10:18 PM, Nowhichski said:

Feel like we’re not getting a ton of pressure on passing downs without blitzing. 

It's usually due to the fact we have one real d-lineman, a couple linebackers at the ends, and shit load of DBs standing 12 yards deep...  I get the "confuse the QB" element and "bend" without giving up the big gain concept, but often the 1-2-8, or whatever it is, give the opposing QB 5+ seconds to wait for a receiver to break free.  Blitzing a DB on very rare occasions can be successful when the blitzer comes from outside the end, but when we send a blitzing DB as our 4th rusher on 3rd downs trying to hit a gap in the O-line, the DB too often gets smothered by someone twice his size.

Orlando is clearly of the mindset that he wants to play the dime most of the time to make the offense run and use speed to compensate.  That works to some extent, but that dime aint doing the trick on third and long like it should because he is getting predictable in when and how he decides to pressure the QB.  He makes the big bucks.  He needs to be less predictable with his personnel subs, fronts, and blitzes on the 3rd and long plays.

[Eggo 3975]

1 minute ago, VinyVango said:

It's usually due to the fact we have one real d-lineman, a couple linebackers at the ends, and shit load of DBs standing 12 yards deep...  I get the "confuse the QB" element and "bend" without giving up the big gain concept, but often the 1-2-8, or whatever it is, give the opposing QB 5+ seconds to wait for a receiver to break free.  Blitzing a DB on very rare occasions can be successful when the blitzer comes from outside the end, but when we send a blitzing DB as our 4th rusher on 3rd downs trying to hit a gap in the O-line, the DB too often gets smothered by someone twice his size.

Orlando is clearly of the mindset that he wants to play the dime most of the time to make the offense run and use speed to compensate.  That works to some extent, but that dime aint doing the trick on third and long like it should because he is getting predictable in when and how he decides to pressure the QB.  He makes the big bucks.  He needs to be less predictable with his personnel subs, fronts, and blitzes on the 3rd and long plays.

What's the difference between a real d-lineman and Roach/Graham? Both of them are basically 300 pounds, so size isn't it. 

[Burt Macklin 18999]

1 hour ago, GoldAppleCorps said:

Digging in the recesses of selective memory, I want to say it was 2010 when Texas played Nebraska in Lincoln. Their defensive strategy for that game was to put as many defenders on the LOS as possible, then have the selective few drop during the play.

Crucially, the pressuring defenders favored gap integrity over straight line pressure. The result confused the Husker OL and prevented Taylor Martinez from escaping left or right. He wasn't fast enough mentally to diagnose coverage after the snap, and had no room to roll in order to buy that time.

Hurts is a great QB, but not the meth-addled cockroach runner that Murray was. Scipio documented the weak links on the Sooner OL and how to exploit that. If Keondre Coburn consistently causes a road accident pileup in the middle, Texas has the athletes and scheme to force the issue. It will take more than one player to bring Hurts down, but hitting the opposition hard is something the Texas defense excels at.

OU isn't an offense that can go one-dimensional and live. If the Sooner OL isn't winning battles for the run game, then defending it becomes a matter of keeping CeeDee Lamb in front of you. Concede FGs rather than jog-in TDs.

Are they still using the backup kicker, or do suspensions not apply when the fan base gets antsy?

OU’s receivers are way too good and Hurts is a good enough passer to kill us if we tried anything like that. 

15 minutes ago, VinyVango said:

It's usually due to the fact we have one real d-lineman, a couple linebackers at the ends, and shit load of DBs standing 12 yards deep...  I get the "confuse the QB" element and "bend" without giving up the big gain concept, but often the 1-2-8, or whatever it is, give the opposing QB 5+ seconds to wait for a receiver to break free.  Blitzing a DB on very rare occasions can be successful when the blitzer comes from outside the end, but when we send a blitzing DB as our 4th rusher on 3rd downs trying to hit a gap in the O-line, the DB too often gets smothered by someone twice his size.

Orlando is clearly of the mindset that he wants to play the dime most of the time to make the offense run and use speed to compensate.  That works to some extent, but that dime aint doing the trick on third and long like it should because he is getting predictable in when and how he decides to pressure the QB.  He makes the big bucks.  He needs to be less predictable with his personnel subs, fronts, and blitzes on the 3rd and long plays.

Lulz. None of this is true. We’ve barely run the Cowboy package, which is what you’re trying to describe.

[Fondren & Main 6673]

I expect Jamison to absolutely ball out in this game.  Cook looked good too.  Hopefully we beat the piss out of the Sooner cocksuckers.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

BJ Foster is the key to our defense.  We need a big game out of him rushing Hurts and hitting him hard on running plays.

[Eggo 3975]

Just now, Johnny Sack said:

BJ Foster is the key to our defense.  We need a big game out of him rushing Hurts and hitting him hard on running plays.

With his head up. 

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

BJ. Not every tackle should be a midair collision 

[Machinator 32097]

 

[Fondren & Main 6673]

2 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

BJ. Not every tackle should be a midair collision 

[Tex Pete 20184]

1 hour ago, Machinator said:

 

Fuck Anwar.

[Thermos H. Christ 478]

It sure seems like Anwar and Feldman are just describing the same thing in slightly different ways. Ash suddenly had a lot of free time on his hands, a lot to think about in terms of how he might be more successful as a coach in the future, and good reason to get out and network within the CFB world. He accepted an invite from his friend and former colleague Tom Herman to come sit in on some meetings and practices at Texas leading up to the OU game. He didn't accept some unpaid volunteer job, but I'm sure he had thoughts to share while sitting in on these things. No doubt Ash was doing it because it was an opportunity for him to learn and network as he looks to make his next career move, and it would be totally expected for him to be reaching out to his contacts at other schools and paying them visits as well. 

[Tex Pete 20184]

26 minutes ago, Thermos H. Christ said:

It sure seems like Anwar and Feldman are just describing the same thing in slightly different ways. Ash suddenly had a lot of free time on his hands, a lot to think about in terms of how he might be more successful as a coach in the future, and good reason to get out and network within the CFB world. He accepted an invite from his friend and former colleague Tom Herman to come sit in on some meetings and practices at Texas leading up to the OU game. He didn't accept some unpaid volunteer job, but I'm sure he had thoughts to share while sitting in on these things. No doubt Ash was doing it because it was an opportunity for him to learn and network as he looks to make his next career move, and it would be totally expected for him to be reaching out to his contacts at other schools and paying them visits as well. 

And when someone pushes back, like Ash clearly did, you (Anwar) shut the fuck up. OB insists upon themselves to the detriment of our program, and it all starts with that fat d-bag Geoff Ketchum. SHUT. THE FUCK. UP!

[Dbeasy 14974]

Any chance that bringing in Ash is sending a message to Orlando?

You’re gawd damm right it is.

[6th Street 6357]

I wouldn't make a big deal out of this Rutgers scrub coming in to watch film. He's not going to magically fix our lackluster coverage skills or inability to generate a pass rush.

[LTtxfan 48998]

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

14 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

I'm unhappy, and I want you to be unhappy, and here's why you should also be unhappy.

[Goodman 3273]

8 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Any chance that bringing in Ash is sending a message to Orlando?

I sure hope so. 

[6th Street 6357]

Lol this dude was 3-26 in Big 10 play at Rutgers.

 

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

Just now, 6th Street said:

Lol this dude was 3-26 in Big 10 play at Rutgers.

There are plenty of good coordinators who made lousy head coaches. He's just another in a long line.

[6th Street 6357]

2 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

There are plenty of good coordinators who made lousy head coaches. He's just another in a long line.

He's trash bro

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

He's trash bro

Gee, I guess it's a good thing he's not on staff then.

 

Jesus, dude, the shit you get hung up on sometimes just boggles my mind.

[texifornia 56558]

8 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

Gee, I guess it's a good thing he's not on staff then.

 

Jesus, dude, the shit you get hung up on sometimes just boggles my mind.

It's 6th Street, man. He lives to denigrate everything. He must suuuuuuck at parties.

[6th Street 6357]

6 minutes ago, texifornia said:

It's 6th Street, man. He lives to denigrate everything. He must suuuuuuck at parties.

Come on son, you don't see the humor in this washout trying to help out? 

[JBJ 3649]

It's probably true that he's working his network this season.  It is also probably true we thought it was a good idea to have him visit OU week.

He's a Quarters and zone blitz guy.

[Steamboat1874 4032]

Ha.... stuck at work late but streaming ESPN Gameday and Desmond just said our secondary is terrible.

Guess we will see about that.

Not that any of that shit matters but I hope our secondary saw it just because.

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

22 hours ago, Machinator said:

He was a good DC at Ohio State

Any remembrance of his philosophy or alignments. 

I also wonder if he and possibly Fedora might be on Herman’s short list in case a coordinator gets hired away. Same with Beaty. 

[LTtxfan 48998]

1 minute ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Any remembrance of his philosophy or alignments.     I also wonder if he and possibly Fedora might be on Herman’s short list in case a coordinator gets hired away. Same with Beaty. 

 

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2014/1/15/5310280/how-new-ohio-state-dc-chris-ash-attacks-the-zone-read

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

8 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2014/1/15/5310280/how-new-ohio-state-dc-chris-ash-attacks-the-zone-read

Excellent read, and maybe we’re getting Orlando some help with a mobile QB, something he really struggles with, in addition to maybe adding a pressure or three for Saturday that actually have a prayer of getting home somewhere other than the whiteboard. 

[XYZ 2154]

Everybody struggles with a mobile QB.

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

6 hours ago, XYZ said:

Everybody struggles with a mobile QB.

Off schedule? Yes. On actual designed reads?  We suck at it more than most. Just watch all the sloths playing QB who manage to make hay against our defense on QB read game keepers. It happened again just last weekend. 

Edited October 12, 2019 by Bobby_Batronic

[Jkwellborn 6656]

You don’t really expect the slow ones to break and run. Like Vic doesn’t expect fat chicks to turn down dinner and sex.

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

1 hour ago, Jkwellborn said:

You don’t really expect the slow ones to break and run. Like Vic doesn’t expect fat chicks to turn down dinner and sex.

At some point, when virtually every QB we’ve faced has managed to score against us on the read keeper, you have to start expecting it. 

[Capn81 372]

Hey Todd, how about four fucking quarters of solid defense today?

[horngasm2020 116]

anyone see Oregon defense last night...

holy hell, imagine what their DC would do with our superstar recruits that Orlando is wasting.

[Neonmoon 38127]

Why 3 down? Whyyyy?

[Randolph Duke 4034]

Fuck Orlando. If we win, it will be in spite of him. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

He’s very overrated 

[Randolph Duke 4034]

7 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

He’s very overrated 

Tom Herman’s next challenge as the head of a major program is to have the capacity to fire a coordinator who is a liability mid-season. 

Preferably, halfway through the first quarter today. 

 

Edited October 12, 2019 by Randolph Duke

[bschoolprof 6232]

7 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

He’s very overrated 

I don't really think he's rated very highly anymore.  

[CurlyDumps 4441]

Every single pressure we send ends up getting swallowed up into the line, or the players take a shit angle and run themselves out of the play.

[Randolph Duke 4034]

5 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

I don't really think he's rated very highly anymore.  

This is already brutal, yet again watching Todd Orlando get his brains bashed in. 

[LTtxfan 48998]

This thread warming up.... 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[Randolph Duke 4034]

Maybe after this game Orlando will have seen enough of what an actual defense looks like that we can stumble our way to the accounting bowl, or some such nonsense. 

20 fucking years without a hope of an impressive showing against OU. They pound our asses 65-14, and we can barely win with a field goal at the last tick of the clock. 

Being OU’s bitch is getting tiring. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

3 down lineman getting abused again because Orlando is a fucking chump

[ClubWhatever 12087]

He’s the fifth highest paid coordinator in the country

[Randolph Duke 4034]

2 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

He’s the fifth highest paid coordinator in the country

Take the loss, pussy. 

I’m tired of taking OU’s loss.

Fuck this. 12 minutes left in the 2nd qtr and the game is over. Fuck this. Yet again. Fuck Orlando. Fuck Tom Herman. 

Edited October 12, 2019 by Randolph Duke

[Slacks 6792]

scheme is trash

[CurlyDumps 4441]

“But we held the running backs to under 100 yards rushing!”