What, no Joe Manchin thread?

[Macklemore 2873]

7 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

And shitty tailored jerseys.

I smell defeat brought by one of your own. Just like y’all had fun when McCain derailed plans to rollback Obamacare, we on the right are enjoying the same happening to y’all.

2022 & 2024 are going to be a cakewalk for the GOP. What is going to be funny is the walking back of the “this might be the last midterm/Presidential election of our lifetime” lunacy that will get dropped to gin up support after the losses occur.

Edited December 19, 2021 by Macklemore

[DDD Dad 14347]

2 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

I smell defeat brought by one of your own. Just like y’all had fun when McCain derailed plans to rollback Obamacare, we on the right are enjoying the same happening to y’all.

2022 & 2024 are going to be a cakewalk for the GOP. What is going to be funny is the walking back of the “this might be the last midterm/Presidential election of our lifetime” lunacy that will get dropped to gin up support after the losses occur.

Didn’t you ask to be barred from the cloak room?

[Satchel 6948]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Overall, I found the Build Back Better ideals to be over-reaching and I’m not surprised that it’s being cancelled. I also don’t believe it was only Manchin pushing back. I would bet at least 5-10 other Dem senators felt the same but are happy to let manchin take the heat.

biden was elected to not be trump. He doesn’t need to attempt an FDR, LBJ or Obama level social program. 

Overreaching in what ways, specifically?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13522]

58 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Overreaching in what ways, specifically?

One bill that addresses free childcare, climate change, some level of reduced/ free college, lower prescription costs, middle class tax breaks, etc, etc.?  It would have been a monstrosity that no one would have fully understood until years after it passed.

there is nothing stopping Biden from tackling each issue one at a time. Biden was going after every legislative issue that Dems care about individually when he doesn’t even have a full majority in the senate. It was doomed to fail. Perhaps Biden even planned it that way so he can say he tried. He now owes no one anything.

go after the tax breaks for the middle class and add higher taxes for the rich. 

Edited December 19, 2021 by Nice Guy Eddie

[Johnny Sack 8397]

Manchin is a voice of reason in unreasonable times.  Good for him. Several vulnerable Dems probably thanked him in private. 

[wildcat09 29377]

Yeah, bucking the party worked so well for the Dems in swing seats in 2010.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

27 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, bucking the party worked so well for the Dems in swing seats in 2010.

Dems weren’t a party with a significant amount of Marxists back then.  That’s changed.  

[Bama Chick 28596]

“Voice of reason” lol

[David Dennison 18945]

2 hours ago, Macklemore said:

I smell defeat brought by one of your own. Just like y’all had fun when McCain derailed plans to rollback Obamacare, we on the right are enjoying the same happening to y’all.

2022 & 2024 are going to be a cakewalk for the GOP. What is going to be funny is the walking back of the “this might be the last midterm/Presidential election of our lifetime” lunacy that will get dropped to gin up support after the losses occur.

The difference is, the Democrats are going to pass a bill.

[David Dennison 18945]

7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Dems weren’t a party with a significant amount of Marxists back then.  That’s changed.  

You won't agree when he votes for the final bill. He'll get lumped in with all the other Marxist libs.

[jimmyjazz 46107]

7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Dems weren’t a party with a significant amount of Marxists back then.  That’s changed.  

Name the Marxists.  Show your work.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19142]

51 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Manchin is a voice of reason in unreasonable times.  Good for him. Several vulnerable Dems probably thanked him in private. 

You are so full of shit it is incredible.  

[Johnny Sack 8397]

2 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

You are so full of shit it is incredible.  

Cuckoo

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19142]

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

Cuckoo

Ok, tough guy.  You are seriously completely delusional.  Manchin is voting with the money, NOT his constituents.  And eventually, voters will figure that out.  It sounds like some Democrats have finally figured out the messaging to put the screws to him.  Good.  

I find it telling that you are against infrastructure and helping the American people, but are totally for corporate welfare and tax cuts for billionaires.  Tells me all I need to know about you.

[Incredulity 11683]

17 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Name the Marxists.  Show your work.

How about we start with Blumenthal.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/democratic-sen-richard-blumenthal-gives-communism-a-boost/amp/

Blumenthal said he was “excited and honored” to speak at the awards ceremony for the Connecticut People’s World Committee, an open Communist Party affiliate. Indeed, the event celebrated the 102nd anniversary of the Communist Party USA as it explicitly aimed to recruit new CPUSA members.

 

of course when called out afterwards he did his best

Edited December 19, 2021 by Incredulity

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

22 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Dems weren’t a party with a significant amount of Marxists back then.  That’s changed.  

Significantly fewer baby-munching,  lizard people too!

[David Dennison 18945]

So the right is bringing back red-baiting.

How retro.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

3 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Ok, tough guy.  You are seriously completely delusional.  Manchin is voting with the money, NOT his constituents.  And eventually, voters will figure that out.  It sounds like some Democrats have finally figured out the messaging to put the screws to him.  Good.  

I find it telling that you are against infrastructure and helping the American people, but are totally for corporate welfare and tax cuts for billionaires.  Tells me all I need to know about you.

If you think I give one single fuck what some bitter and unhappy white liberal like you thinks, you’d be wrong. 

[jimmyjazz 46107]

6 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

How about we start with Blumenthal.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/democratic-sen-richard-blumenthal-gives-communism-a-boost/amp/

Blumenthal said he was “excited and honored” to speak at the awards ceremony for the Connecticut People’s World Committee, an open Communist Party affiliate. Indeed, the event celebrated the 102nd anniversary of the Communist Party USA as it explicitly aimed to recruit new CPUSA members.

Of course you won't take his word for it, so we'll move on.  Blumenthal is a card-carrying Marxist (except he's not).  Next?  Remember, Johnny Sack claimed a "significant number of Marxists".

Come on, let's go.  I want to see at least one of you defend this ridiculous assertion.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

7 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

How about we start with Blumenthal.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/democratic-sen-richard-blumenthal-gives-communism-a-boost/amp/

Blumenthal said he was “excited and honored” to speak at the awards ceremony for the Connecticut People’s World Committee, an open Communist Party affiliate. Indeed, the event celebrated the 102nd anniversary of the Communist Party USA as it explicitly aimed to recruit new CPUSA members.

 

of course when called out afterwards he did his best

""When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength," Trump replied. "That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak...as being spit on by the rest of the world."

https://www.businessinsider.com/trumpn-tiananmen-square-massacre-china-showed-power-of-strength-2019-6

[jimmyjazz 46107]

Edited December 19, 2021 by jimmyjazz

[Bullneck 19202]

3 hours ago, immortal13 said:

All you Dems have managed to do is pivot this country's collective asshole towards the middle east so they can go in dry instead of working towards energy independence. The need of fossil fuels will only end through technological advancement free of government interference, not because sleepy Joe or horse-teeth AOC trying to pass mandates and deadlines. Stupid fucks and the stupid fucks that support them 

It's got to be hard taking a collection of facts and drawing the exact wrong conclusion from them. 

We Dems want to energy independent without fossil fuels.  Imagine that.  

 

[Bullneck 19202]

18 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

If you think I give one single fuck what some bitter and unhappy white liberal like you thinks, you’d be wrong. 

You didn't really address what she said.  Rather, you leaned into a rhetorical fallacy.  

47 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Dems weren’t a party with a significant amount of Marxists back then.  That’s changed.  

What is a Marxist, anyway?  I want you to tell me in your own words.  Protip: you can use big words.  I'm up to it!

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by Bullneck

[Bullneck 19202]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

Manchin is a voice of reason in unreasonable times.  Good for him. Several vulnerable Dems probably thanked him in private. 

No, he's not, silly.  He's a big oil titty baby.  

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

...and in case you really think the guy who increased socialism to the agricultural sector to compensate for his trade war with China/Ivanka's Business Partners actually gives any/more fucks about Communism v Capitalism than he does about Authoritarianism, his SPECIFIC complaint about the latter days of the old Soviet Union is that they weren't authoritarian enough.

from same link...

""Their system is a disaster," Trump said. "What you will see there soon is a revolution; the signs are all there with the demonstrations and picketing. Russia is out of control and the leadership knows it. That's my problem with [former Soviet President Mikhail] Gorbachev. Not a firm enough hand.""

[6th Street 6491]

The funny thing is that the people that BBB would help most are the ones that are most against it. WV is like the 2nd poorest state in the nation, with thousands of people living below the poverty line. 

[Bullneck 19202]

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

...also obligatory when anyone links the New York Post

 

[Fastbreak 3990]

Kick him out of the party. It’s simple.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

Dems weren’t a party with a significant amount of Marxists back then.  That’s changed.  

 Manchin represents rich trust fund babies like yourself. So congrats I guess.

[Satchel 6948]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

One bill that addresses free childcare, climate change, some level of reduced/ free college, lower prescription costs, middle class tax breaks, etc, etc.?  It would have been a monstrosity that no one would have fully understood until years after it passed.

there is nothing stopping Biden from tackling each issue one at a time. Biden was going after every legislative issue that Dems care about individually when he doesn’t even have a full majority in the senate. It was doomed to fail. Perhaps Biden even planned it that way so he can say he tried. He now owes no one anything.

go after the tax breaks for the middle class and add higher taxes for the rich. 

These are policies and programs that benefit people in this country who are more often than not, an afterthought when it come to tax policy There is nothing honorable about going slowly when the needs of common people are urgent. You wanna talk monstrosity? Let talk about an unfunded two trillion dollar tax cut that benefited mostly the wealthy in this country. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Ok, tough guy.  You are seriously completely delusional.  Manchin is voting with the money, NOT his constituents.  And eventually, voters will figure that out.  It sounds like some Democrats have finally figured out the messaging to put the screws to him.  Good.  

I find it telling that you are against infrastructure and helping the American people, but are totally for corporate welfare and tax cuts for billionaires.  Tells me all I need to know about you.

He’s a rich trust fund baby. So of course he supports what manchin did and opposes what Biden is trying to do, assuming he’s a selfish and greedy asshole of course. Which he is.

[David Dennison 18945]

13 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

Kick him out of the party. It’s simple.

And there goes your majority and all of your committee chairs.

[UpperWestside 6186]

3 hours ago, Macklemore said:

I smell defeat brought by one of your own. Just like y’all had fun when McCain derailed plans to rollback Obamacare, we on the right are enjoying the same happening to y’all.

2022 & 2024 are going to be a cakewalk for the GOP. What is going to be funny is the walking back of the “this might be the last midterm/Presidential election of our lifetime” lunacy that will get dropped to gin up support after the losses occur.

You are not on the right. There is no right anymore. There is the GQP and then everyone who isn’t GQP which, to make it simple for you, is everyone trying to head this monstrosity off because it is in the best interests of this country to do so.
 

Please get your life in order and do something to help others instead of what you currently put out into the world. The negativity just radiates in your posts.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

And there goes your majority and all of your committee chairs.

Yeah there’s the rub.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

If you think I give one single fuck what some bitter and unhappy white liberal like you thinks, you’d be wrong. 

Well you seem to want to post here for some reason. Why is that then? You don’t give a fuck but post here anyway? 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19142]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

If you think I give one single fuck what some bitter and unhappy white liberal like you thinks, you’d be wrong. 

You project so much.  The only bitter, unhappy white person is you because your Orange God lost.  You are such a horrible human being, it is unreal.  Leave the adults to talk and go back to worshiping Dotard and Kyle Rittenhouse.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

 

53 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Well you seem to want to post here for some reason. Why is that then? You don’t give a fuck but post here anyway? 

ATTENTION INTERNET! I SUPER EXPLETIVES DECLARE APATHY! 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

50 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Well you seem to want to post here for some reason. Why is that then? You don’t give a fuck but post here anyway? 

I guess you’re right and I shouldn’t post on a board full of bitter and unhappy white liberals (like there’s any other kind).

You people need help.  

[immortal13 4059]

23 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

You project so much.  The only bitter, unhappy white person is you because your Orange God lost.  You are such a horrible human being, it is unreal.  Leave the adults to talk and go back to worshiping Dotard and Kyle Rittenhouse.

And your dementia infested brain , mush-mouthed fool won. Congrats?

[workswithseed 2110]

8 hours ago, Macklemore said:

Don’t think Manchin will be winning plaudits from the 4th Estate as a “profile in courage” for bucking his party; that designation is only feted for spineless RINOs. Having your own version of John McCain throwing a wrench in your party’s platform sucks doesn’t it. 

"Strange new respect."

[elfenix 34331]

immortal on a stack and johnny in a bottle?  what a blessing!

[JimmyJames 12271]

7 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I guess you’re right and I shouldn’t post on a board full of bitter and unhappy white liberals (like there’s any other kind).

You people need help.  

Help us Johnny sack. You are our only hope.

scrambled message.

Help us Johnny sack. You are our only hope.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I guess you’re right and I shouldn’t post on a board full of bitter and unhappy white liberals (like there’s any other kind).

You people need help.  

😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄 

Holy shit!

Give us some "breakdown" on percentage of Americans with self-reported "pre-existing" health conditions, you "2 or less alcohol drinks per week" doctor office check-in, Mr. Marvelous. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 minutes ago, elfenix said:

immortal on a stack and johnny in a bottle?  what a blessing!

These are great days we’re living in bros! 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

2 minutes ago, elfenix said:

immortal on a stack and johnny in a bottle?  what a blessing!

Just drove back from hunting at my friend’s place in south Texas.  One of my best friends took a massive deer this morning.  Got back late because it took forever to score and cape before dropping off at Freer Deer Camp.  Sorry to disappoint you.  
 

I am sure Joe Biden, with his stellar record of leadership and competence, is getting ready to turn this all around. He and Kamala claimed they would shut down the virus.  They’re kicking all sorts of ass.  

[wildcat09 29377]

Getting away from the trolls, this is really striking:

Manchin really can’t argue that he’s representing his constituents here.

[workswithseed 2110]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Of course you won't take his word for it, so we'll move on.  Blumenthal is a card-carrying Marxist (except he's not).  Next?  Remember, Johnny Sack claimed a "significant number of Marxists".

Come on, let's go.  I want to see at least one of you defend this ridiculous assertion.

Fuck off, you called half the country racist, but someone being called Marxist, and y'all come yelping like hurt dogs. Hmmm.. this seems like familiar talking points right @JimmyJames @David Dennison?

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

Thread is a beacon on the collective state of America's mental health, twisted into a competition by the usual suspects. 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Getting away from the trolls, this is really striking:

Manchin really can’t argue that he’s representing his constituents here.

Now poll the actual specifics of the plan.  Polls like that are meaningless bullshit.  No one polled could tell you a thing about the bill. 
 

Start with its amnesty provisions.  That 80% of West Virginia opposes.  

Edited December 20, 2021 by Johnny Sack