2021-22 PGA thread

[alincoln 2,385]

Saudi tour is a good fit for a greedy murderer with a penchant for blond coke whores.

[bigup2dahorns 3,343]

In case anyone missed it, playing for the title tonight

[Blotto 23,585]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/golf/2022/06/01/dustin-johnson-u-turns-pga-tour-commitment-included-saudi-rebel/ - article is behind a paywall so I used 12ft.io

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Dustin Johnson was offered around £100 million in a last-ditch swoop by Greg Norman to complete a shock about-turn and sign up to the Saudi-backed rebel golf league, Telegraph Sport understands.

The extraordinary signing-on fee was tabled amid Norman's desperation to land a stellar name after Phil Mickelson, who has not been named on the initial 42-man entry list, suggested he was taking too much heat.

Former world No 1 Johnson has rocked the world of golf with his decision, but, according to insiders, he could now receive up to $150million (£119m) just for stating commitment to the series.

A record-breaking fee will more than compensate for the inevitable storm around him and an expected exodus of major sponsors linked to his commitments on the PGA Tour.

Three months after declaring he was “fully committed” to the PGA, Johnson's sudden about-turn has left powerbrokers reeling. The 37-year-old, who won The Masters 18 months ago is among a 42-man field for next week's LIV Golf Invitational, which offers $25million in prize money due to controversial backing from Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund. Six more names are due to be added before the event begins, which could see Mickelson handed a late entry.

Telegraph Sport understands Norman, the organiser in chief and a friend of Johnson's, had initially planned to announce the line up last Friday, but postponed due to last-minute negotiations with his star signing.

Johnson was previously billed to play in the RBC Canadian Open next week, as he has an endorsement deal with the Canadian bank as one of its ambassadors. The Canadian Open have already openly expressed dismay at his decision and it is now likely the RBC will be the first major brand to pull the plug on endorsements with Johnson.

Telegraph seems to be the only source I could find online so far that mentions the $100 million dollar figure, so who knows if its accurate. That would buy a lot of blow. 

 

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I’ll guess he’s getting a huge appearance fee

fowler is an idiot if he doesn’t follow dj, throw duffner in that same boat 

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I’ll guess mickelson won’t be far behind 

[Pam Cummings 9,684]

Guarantee Paulina's already spent 60% of it.

[miguelito 11,314]

14 hours ago, Dewey said:

Quite honestly,  meh. He's the only player out of 48 to fuss over. I don't think anyone will miss Phil, not so much for his past year, but mostly because he turned it in after his PGA win. Sergio? Westwood? 

I also don't get the beef these guys, particularly Phil, has with the PGA tour. Too much money going around to feel sorry for those guys. It was worse when the Doobie Brothers broke up, this is nothing. 

When did that happen?

[miguelito 11,314]

double bogey

Edited June 1, 2022 by miguelito

[crash_davis 23,115]

Saudis are spending a fuckton of money on this tour. Their return is predicated on ad revenue and sponsorships. What happens if no one watches, at least in the US? My understanding is that they'll only have 1 tourney in the US. Unless it's the British open, US golf viewers aint gonna watch live European or Asian tourneys. Hardly anyone watches recorded shit especially if it's just some random tourney.

So assuming that this whole thing crashes and burns, the PGA players who jump ship are making more money short term vs being unemployed long term.

[bigup2dahorns 3,343]

[crash_davis 23,115]

12 minutes ago, bigup2dahorns said:

 

Saudis must be paying a fuckton of money for these players to jump. I give this thing 3 years before it implodes from massive debt.

[UTexasFight 9,551]

25 minutes ago, bigup2dahorns said:

 

“We wish them well in their future endeavours.”

 

bullshit. Just say what you’re actually thinking:

”We award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.”

[crash_davis 23,115]

1 hour ago, UTexasFight said:

“We wish them well in their future endeavours.”

 

bullshit. Just say what you’re actually thinking:

”We award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.”

or...

"You are not welcomed back into our tour when the shit goes south. Good luck."

[TonyTexas 10,535]

There are some defectors that I get, especially DJ. NLU is speculating that he’s getting $125M-$200M just for showing up. That doesn’t include winnings which should be substantial given the competition. What I don’t get is the college  kids going for $4M. Seems short-sighted. 

[conVINCEd 21,470]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

There are some defectors that I get, especially DJ. NLU is speculating that he’s getting $125M-$200M just for showing up. That doesn’t include winnings which should be substantial given the competition. What I don’t get is the college  kids going for $4M. Seems short-sighted. 

What was the average balance in your checking account when you were a senior in college?

[TonyTexas 10,535]

18 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

What was the average balance in your checking account when you were a senior in college?

Sure. It probably depends on potential. If you can get and hold on to your card, it’s probably not a good decision, particularly if it means a PGA permanent ban. Have fun being banished to the Asian tour then club pro ranks in a few years. 

Edited June 1, 2022 by TonyTexas

[Sbbruin 21,899]

This “The Match” with Rodgers/Brady v Mahomie/Allen is hacky golf at its finest

[thunderlounge 7,955]

Don’t care. Played golf; got paid. 

[Firemans4Horn 18,127]

Fuck the cock sucking Saudis.
 

Should have spent $9 trillion bombing those terrorist, journalist beheading, 9/11 funding fucks instead of their fall guy country Afghanistan. 

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8 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

What I don’t get is the college  kids going for $4M. Seems short-sighted. 

 

this is where the saudis can cut deep, going after the younger guys. target the college players just announced in the university class. if you get 3 out of the 15, it's success. next year's class will see how those 3 did, and maybe next year they get 6 out of the 15. 

locking in younger players before than can succeed on the pga is how this league succeeds 

[RockyMountainHighHorn 896]

But then the debate is going to be, how good is this kid actually? Is beating up on Lee Westwood and McDowell match after match going to get the same….respect as a win on the PGA Tour? I don’t think so

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5 hours ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

But then the debate is going to be, how good is this kid actually? Is beating up on Lee Westwood and McDowell match after match going to get the same….respect as a win on the PGA Tour? I don’t think so

they can ask him all the way to the bank

masters, the us and British open should still be a go for LIv players 

[Dewey 3,296]

Wonder how the Masters will handle this? they should all have to go through qualifying for the US and open championships in my opinion 

[crash_davis 23,115]

Hideki Matsuyama disqualified from Memorial due to non-conforming club

https://nypost.com/2022/06/02/hideki-matsuyama-disqualified-from-memorial-over-bizarre-violation/

Former Masters champ Hideki Matsuyama was disqualified from the Memorial during Thursday’s opening round at Muirfield Village in Ohio. More strange was the rules violation itself — officials determined the Japanese star had too much paint on the face of his 3-wood.

“Our committee became aware through some pictures that were posted [on the internet] that there may be a substance that has been painted on the face of one of Hideki’s clubs,” rules official Steve Rintoul told reporters. “Unfortunately, when we found out about it, Hideki was playing the second hole.”

It was the first time that Matsuyama, whose first career victory on the PGA Tour came at the Memorial in 2014, was disqualified on tour.

Matsuyama, who shot a three-over 39 through his first nine holes Thursday, was informed of the disqualification before teeing off on the back nine. The paint on the club was applied as an alignment aid, according to Rintoul, with 10 small lines forming a circle on the face, but it was the amount of the substance that was deemed excessive and therefore made the club non-conforming.

 

[crash_davis 23,115]

btw, this is the post which started the shit.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CeTygrdFQbB/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=07591da1-1f69-4a19-9522-efb74fa94db5

[ztejas 43,548]

Why the fuck is Scottie not playing the Memorial? WTF? 

[conVINCEd 21,470]

49 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Hideki Matsuyama disqualified from Memorial due to non-conforming club

https://nypost.com/2022/06/02/hideki-matsuyama-disqualified-from-memorial-over-bizarre-violation/

Former Masters champ Hideki Matsuyama was disqualified from the Memorial during Thursday’s opening round at Muirfield Village in Ohio. More strange was the rules violation itself — officials determined the Japanese star had too much paint on the face of his 3-wood.

“Our committee became aware through some pictures that were posted [on the internet] that there may be a substance that has been painted on the face of one of Hideki’s clubs,” rules official Steve Rintoul told reporters. “Unfortunately, when we found out about it, Hideki was playing the second hole.”

It was the first time that Matsuyama, whose first career victory on the PGA Tour came at the Memorial in 2014, was disqualified on tour.

Matsuyama, who shot a three-over 39 through his first nine holes Thursday, was informed of the disqualification before teeing off on the back nine. The paint on the club was applied as an alignment aid, according to Rintoul, with 10 small lines forming a circle on the face, but it was the amount of the substance that was deemed excessive and therefore made the club non-conforming.

 

The old vaseline on the clubface rule.

[ConferenceRoom 6,147]

Why the fuck is Scottie not playing the Memorial? WTF? 

Perhaps he doesn’t want to “kiss the ring.”

[Wally Fairway 5,590]

2 hours ago, ztejas said:

Why the fuck is Scottie not playing the Memorial? WTF? 

Maybe he isn't a milkshake guy

[Pam Cummings 9,684]

If it seems too good to be true, it usually is, and that's all i can say about people taking $100m to go play on a Saudi-funded tour. Imagine thinking that any golfer not named Tiger is worth paying that much money for.

[crash_davis 23,115]

58 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

If it seems too good to be true, it usually is, and that's all i can say about people taking $100m to go play on a Saudi-funded tour. Imagine thinking that any golfer not named Tiger is worth paying that much money for.

If DJ is getting paid $120M to jump ship, he's already in retirement mode. He can finish last in every LIV tourney and still be happier than the dude winning. If the league folds in 3 years, he's gets to retire early and fuck around for the 40 years while living like a king.

[dcar00 14,380]

speaking of DJ, does PGA tour control the Ryder Cup?  I guess he could be a captains pick if he gets booted from the tour.

[dcar00 14,380]

4 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Hideki Matsuyama disqualified from Memorial due to non-conforming club

https://nypost.com/2022/06/02/hideki-matsuyama-disqualified-from-memorial-over-bizarre-violation/

Former Masters champ Hideki Matsuyama was disqualified from the Memorial during Thursday’s opening round at Muirfield Village in Ohio. More strange was the rules violation itself — officials determined the Japanese star had too much paint on the face of his 3-wood.

“Our committee became aware through some pictures that were posted [on the internet] that there may be a substance that has been painted on the face of one of Hideki’s clubs,” rules official Steve Rintoul told reporters. “Unfortunately, when we found out about it, Hideki was playing the second hole.”

It was the first time that Matsuyama, whose first career victory on the PGA Tour came at the Memorial in 2014, was disqualified on tour.

Matsuyama, who shot a three-over 39 through his first nine holes Thursday, was informed of the disqualification before teeing off on the back nine. The paint on the club was applied as an alignment aid, according to Rintoul, with 10 small lines forming a circle on the face, but it was the amount of the substance that was deemed excessive and therefore made the club non-conforming.

 

thats kind of ridiculous to be honest.  he can't line the ball up on the club without that?  does he have something wrong with his eyes?

[Pam Cummings 9,684]

9 hours ago, crash_davis said:

If DJ is getting paid $120M to jump ship, he's already in retirement mode. He can finish last in every LIV tourney and still be happier than the dude winning. If the league folds in 3 years, he's gets to retire early and fuck around for the 40 years while living like a king.

Or he'll just blow it all like i assume he's done with his PGA Tour earnings and be broke and divorced in like 6 years.

[dieucla98 2,942]

8 hours ago, dcar00 said:

thats kind of ridiculous to be honest.  he can't line the ball up on the club without that?  does he have something wrong with his eyes?

Either you don't play a lot of golf or you don't realize how bad your alignment probably is. And for these guys, millimeters matter.

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On 6/2/2022 at 6:41 PM, ztejas said:

Why the fuck is Scottie not playing the Memorial? WTF? 

 

wants a week off ?

[tx 3 putt 77,553]

On 6/2/2022 at 10:17 PM, crash_davis said:

If DJ is getting paid $120M to jump ship, he's already in retirement mode. He can finish last in every LIV tourney and still be happier than the dude winning. If the league folds in 3 years, he's gets to retire early and fuck around for the 40 years while living like a king.

 

the PGA grind gets old 

[tx 3 putt 77,553]

I'm surprised Jason Day didn't jump ship 

[ztejas 43,548]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

wants a week off ?

Has to play well at the US Open I guess. 

You don't skip the Memorial. 

[TonyTexas 10,535]

5 hours ago, ztejas said:

Has to play well at the US Open I guess. 

You don't skip the Memorial. 

He doesn’t have to do shit. He could take the rest of the year off and still be POY

[tx 3 putt 77,553]

He’s focusing on the majors and his schedule. Once Nicklaus dies, no one will give a fuck about the memorial 

[thunderlounge 7,955]

Speaking of Jack, he was talking about how he recently played at quiet round at Augusta with family and shot an 88. 
 

(All I could think about was, “lucky bastard.” 🤣)

[tx 3 putt 77,553]

https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2022/06/04/kevin-na-resigns-pga-tour-liv-saudi-golf/

 

great read. I’m not blaming anyone for taking the Saudi $$$

[Pam Cummings 9,684]

[TonyTexas 10,535]

The only reason I can think of for Na to resign from the PGA vs getting suspended is that he expects some big fines coming and he doesn’t want the liability. 

Edited June 4, 2022 by TonyTexas

[LTtxfan 49,378]

10 hours ago, ztejas said:

Has to play well at the US Open I guess. 

You don't skip the Memorial. 

Spieth has skipped the Memorial in the past.  Not as big of a tournament to some players unless you like kissing the ring... 😋

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F Nicklaus 

[Grade of D as in David 13,253]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2022/06/04/kevin-na-resigns-pga-tour-liv-saudi-golf/

 

great read. I’m not blaming anyone for taking the Saudi $$$

Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye.

 

[Pam Cummings 9,684]

Spieth is a modern day Seve. Unbelievable what he does with a wedge.

[HouTex 1,894]

21 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

F Nicklaus 

This, sort of.  It was late in his career, but we loved Arnold Palmer and couldn’t stand that Nicklaus took his place.  In the last 20 years or so I’ve grown to like Nicklaus a little more.  He’s still too cocky and arrogant at times.