MH 370

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

5 hours ago, tokamak said:

Very thorough article but not a lot of new info for anyone who's followed the story closely.

yes, it's a good survey of the whole thing

[El Diablo 4232]

17 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Pilots intentionally crashing passenger jets seems to happen disturbingly often.

What's the frequency?

[Pasken 1309]

15 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

What's the frequency?

About 5 in 30 years. There has been about 300 million flights in the last 10 years so I would say it’s not too often.

[Trey3216 15321]

9 minutes ago, Pasken said:

About 5 in 30 years. There has been about 300 million flights in the last 10 years so I would say it’s not too often.

Kenneth?

[Hagbard Celine 10660]

Your Benzedrine.

[tokamak 6346]

22 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Pilots intentionally crashing passenger jets seems to happen disturbingly often.

I think it's just that it tends to be big news when it does. Lots of people (unfortunately) are suicidal, depressed, mentally ill, etc. It's just that they tend not to take 200 strangers with them when they go.

A common denominator in these cases is that the suicidal pilot has to get rid of the copilot, and the easiest way to do that is simply lock him or her out of the cockpit. That's confirmed in the Germanwings case, and strongly suspected in MH370. According to Wikipedia, lots of jurisdictions implemented "two people in the cockpit at all times" rules after Germanwings. That seems like a good idea to me. The people that commit these acts are cowards, they're not going to try to overpower even a female flight attendant.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

If there is a suicidal pilot, the passengers are in danger even if the other pilot is chuck norris.  The key is identifying pilots that are in poor mental shape. The paradox is that the pilots need to feel safe that they can seek help without ending their career.

[Orange&White 5516]

47 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The key is identifying pilots that are in poor mental shape. The paradox is that the pilots need to feel safe that they can seek help without ending their career.

Never gonna happen, bro. Pilot's Union Boss out front shoulda told ya.

[Wally Fairway 5507]

6 years ago today MH370 started the fateful flight.
I haven't read of any debris finds recently
poof

[Helobious 9465]

12 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

6 years ago today MH370 started the fateful flight.
I haven't read of any debris finds recently
poof

They found some debris confirmed to be from the plane in 2015 and 2016 in the Indian Ocean.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

Claim that ham radio signal interference from that night can be used to track MH370’s flight. Seems a bit far-fetched to me but then again I’m not sure other evidence is going to be found.  The science behind the claim isn’t explored deeply in this segment but that would also put people to sleep.

 

[Bernard 879]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Claim that ham radio signal interference from that night can be used to track MH370’s flight. Seems a bit far-fetched to me but then again I’m not sure other evidence is going to be found.  The science behind the claim isn’t explored deeply in this segment but that would also put people to sleep.

 

Ha. We must have the same YouTube algorithm. Just watched this a bit ago. It seems like it would be pretty easy and cheap to test radio signal tracker dude’s technique by sending another 777 on a test flight out over the Indian Ocean and tell him to, “Track this, bitch!!!”. Honestly, the fact that this obvious option wasn’t mentioned in the video is kinda suspect.

Bernard

[Homercles 10205]

I read an article and discussion on airliners.net about that…the science seems legit and given the absolutely endless water that defines that part of the globe, it seems very plausible that those returns came from the plane itself.  No real military action out there and the track lines up with known primary radar returns.  
 

Im not sure anyone wants to volunteer a few hundred thousand dollars to fly a 777 to the middle of nowhere to prove it out.  All it would conclusively prove is that something was out there and the weak signal approach seems to work.  Besides now that insurance seems to have closed on it, there’s no big money to start up another ocean scanning rig for a few weeks. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

6 minutes ago, Homercles said:

I read an article and discussion on airliners.net about that…the science seems legit and given the absolutely endless water that defines that part of the globe, it seems very plausible that those returns came from the plane itself.  No real military action out there and the track lines up with known primary radar returns.  
 

Im not sure anyone wants to volunteer a few hundred thousand dollars to fly a 777 to the middle of nowhere to prove it out.  All it would conclusively prove is that something was out there and the weak signal approach seems to work.  Besides now that insurance seems to have closed on it, there’s no big money to start up another ocean scanning rig for a few weeks. 

There must be an eccentric billionaire out there that is willing to throw away some money on something like this. 777 radio test if not scanning the ocean. Perhaps the 777 test could involve a cargo plane already flying across the Indian Ocean but willing to assist in a test for $$.

Is it important to note that the Australian search effort did sonar search this supposed crash area but he thinks a more thorough search will prove his location theory.

At the 13:15 point of the video above, there is mention of the analyst's theory of the plane performing a oval holding pattern for 20 minutes relatively close to Indonesia. The reporter and analyst mention a theory that the pilot was in communication with the Malaysian govt/authorities. Is that a plausible theory? I hadn't heard that one before.

 

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19111]

Make Malaysia Airlines pay for the test.  Obvious solution is obvious. 

Edited February 21, 2022 by Fudge Nuggets

[Horn Dogg 3796]

If that fat guy can find his belly button, then I have no doubt he can find MH370.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

6 hours ago, Horn Dogg said:

If that fat guy can find his belly button, then I have no doubt he can find MH370.

He didn’t look the healthiest. If he has any secret info about how he figured this out, someone should ask him to write it down.

[Wally Fairway 5507]

MH 370 disappeared 10 years ago this Friday - March 8, 2014.
And I was a report today there is another search effort this is looking to kick off 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/malaysia-may-renew-hunt-for-missing-flight-mh370-10-years-after-its-disappearance-1.6792692

[elfenix 34161]

The Sea Creatures That Opened a New Mystery About MH370

Could freaky barnacles do what advanced technology couldn’t — find the missing plane?

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“After a failed search, you have to recalibrate,” says Todd Humphreys, a professor of aeronautical engineering at the University of Texas at Austin. “Sometimes you preclude the possibility of even looking for evidence because you have very strong priors against it. I think by this point, we’ve been pushed into a corner where we do need to revisit those priors.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/mh370-search-debris-barnacles.html

[Wally Fairway 5507]

Put on your tinfoil hats boys & girls - podcast with new "evidence" and theory of what happened to MH-370 

Where I first saw a report of this podcast - https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3513720/10-years-later-we-may-have-evidence-of-what-happened-to-malaysian-flight-370

And the youtube link (it is also on Spotify also linked) - 

 

 

[C-Man 26930]

MH370 mystery finally 'solved' as final two messages from doomed flight revealed

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1937868/mh370-mystery-solved-final-messages

Finally solved, eh? Guess we'll see.

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New research on the disappearance of flight MH370 claims to have resolved the 10-year mystery based on its final two satellite communications recorded.

University of Tasmania researcher Vincent Lyne suggested the final messages received from the vanishing plane can offer a solid indication of the location of the plane's remains.

In a paper set for publication in the Journal of Navigation, the research scientist reviewed the final satellite communications of MH370 to establish its flying pattern before its disappearance.

The assessment challenges previous claims that the plane had dropped into "an uncontrolled high-speed gravitationally accelerated dive following fuel starvation."

Instead, Dr Lyne argued the communications, paired with a review of debris damage by air-crash investigator Larry Vance, "support the hypothesis of a controlled eastward descent", suggesting premeditation to make the Malaysia Airlines flight vanish.

Dr Lyne said: "This work changes the narrative of MH370’s disappearance from one of no-blame, fuel-starvation at the 7th arc, high-speed dive, to a mastermind pilot almost executing an incredible perfect-disappearance in the Southern Indian Ocean.

"In fact, it would have worked were it not for MH370 ploughing its right wing through a wave, and the discovery of the regular interrogation satellite communications by Inmarsat — a brilliant discovery also announced in the Journal of Navigation."

He added: "In recent work, I show that damage to MH370 wings, flap, and flaperon were similar to the 'controlled ditching' performed by Captain Sully on the Hudson River for a bird-struck US Airways Flight 1549 on the 15th of January 2009.

"This justifies beyond doubt the original claim, based on brilliant, skilled, and very careful debris-damage analyses, by decorated ex-Chief Canadian Air-crash Investigator Larry Vance, that MH370 had fuel and running engines when it underwent a masterful 'controlled ditching' and not a high-speed fuel-starved crash.

Dr Lyne also argued the new research provided a clearer path for where MH370 may have crashed, urging future searches for the wreck to focus on a specific section of the Southern Indian Ocean.

Writing in a LinkedIn article announcing the upcoming publication of his research, he said: "Encouragingly we now know very precisely that MH370 is where the longitude of Penang airport (the runway no less) intersects the Pilot-in-Command home simulator track discovered and discarded by the FBI and officials as 'irrelevant'.

"That pre-meditated iconic location harbours a very deep 6000 m hole at the eastern end of the Broken Ridge within a very rugged and dangerous ocean environment renowned for its wild fisheries and new deep-water species.

"With narrow steep sides, surrounded by massive ridges and other deep holes, it is filled with fine sediments—a perfect 'hiding' place."

Dr Lyne added: "I'm finally relieved for those waiting for loved ones, as they will now know where they are, and can plan for their discovery.

"Hopefully this will be in the near future if officials can accept the alternate interpretation that what most likely happened to MH370 was carefully pre-meditated. It is still hard to accept that anyone could have planned this and executed it almost perfectly."

The families of the 239 missing passengers have continued to demand answers and earlier this year appealed to the Malaysian government to launch a new search for missing flight MH370.

 

Edited August 22 by C-Man