Summer Transfer Window - 2018 Version

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Who would be CFC's keeper?

[MoJames 8244]

Just now, Cheeseweasel said:

Who would be CFC's keeper?

Alisson

 

But seriously probably no one.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Sorry Alisson is headed to LFC. Moose out front...

But seriously, you can have Karius.

[MoJames 8244]

1 minute ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Sorry Alisson is headed to LFC. Moose out front...

But seriously, you can have Karius.

Your moose might be drunk?

Latest on Alisson info

 

Haha, nvm Sky.

Edited July 17, 2018 by MoJames

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

2 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Your moose might be drunk?

Latest on Alisson info

 

Haha, nvm Sky.

My moose is reliable as any Transfer Moose. (Which means, not for shit).

 

[MoJames 8244]

On 7/5/2018 at 2:26 PM, JNip said:

Odriozola to RM. Spain’s top three RBs all play for RM now. 

Looks like you are losing one of your LBs tho.

[Alfredo Pedullà] Theo Hernandez is set to leave Real Madrid. The player is ready to evaluate various options for a transfer this summer.

[mdmost 42999]

We can give you Mignolet since you're used to Belgium keepers. 

[MoJames 8244]

So there is this, Tier 1 for Belgium players, no other tweets from him on Migs tho.

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

We'll give you Karius for 20M and throw in Migs for FREE!!!

[Schulz2.0 28951]

24 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

We'll give you Karius for 20M and throw in Migs for FREE!!!

Probably need a couple Best Buy coupons to sweeten the pot.

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

We'll give you Karius for 20M and throw in Migs for FREE!!!

You mean you pay us 20M, right?

[Schulz2.0 28951]

Sunderland finally offloads Wahbi Khazri. Moves to St Etienne for an initial £6m, rising to £9m with add ons.

St Etienne’s announcement video is funny in a WTF sort of way.

https://twitter.com/ASSEofficiel/status/1019249540791197696

[Schulz2.0 28951]

Brighton sign MF Yves Bissouma from Lille for £15m. They also signed GK David Button from Fulham.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

34 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Sunderland finally offloads Wahbi Khazri. Moves to St Etienne for an initial £6m, rising to £9m with add ons.

St Etienne’s announcement video is funny in a WTF sort of way.

https://twitter.com/ASSEofficiel/status/1019249540791197696

That's horribad. Did they enlist the local highschool to put that together?

[Napoleon 8661]

Lots of good stuff on ESPN FC's Live Transfer Talk...
 

16:58 BST: Atletico Madrid are close to confirming the signings of Gelson Martins and Nikola Kalinic, according to Mundo Deportivo.

14:16 BST: Blackburn Rovers have beaten Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool to the signing of Lithuanian teenager Vilius Piliukaitis, according to TEAMtalk .

The 17-year-old is considered the brightest talent in Eastern European football.

 

Juventus Talk:

16:17 BST: Venezuela defensive midfielder Christian Makoun, 18, has passed a medical ahead of a move to Juventus, according to Gianluca Di Marzio

16:01 BST: Tuttosport claim Manchester City and Barcelona are interested in Miralem Pjanic -- but Juventus would only accept a bid of around €90 million.

15:18 BST: AS confirm Libertad Digital's report that Zinedine Zidane is returning to Juventus as a director -- but add that the Italian giants will also sign the Frenchman's son, Luca.

 

http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/transfer-talk/79/post/3568001/live-transfer-talk-real-madrid-may-be-looking-to-sell-karim-benzema

[Schulz2.0 28951]

2 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

That's horribad. Did they enlist the local highschool to put that together?

These guys:

 

[TxArch 2]

On 7/10/2018 at 10:48 AM, Goo Punch said:

it's official

 

official

O hai. Are we finally the Yankees now? Keep Dybala, bye Higuain.

[MoJames 8244]

Now that Alisson is being reported at €75M, I went ahead and looked up the top transfers in EPL out of curiousity.

1	Philippe Coutinho Attacking Midfield	25	17/18		FC Barcelona  LaLiga	£112.50m
2	Paul Pogba Central Midfield	23	16/17		Man Utd  Premier League	£94.50m
3	Gareth Bale Right Winger	24	13/14		Real Madrid  LaLiga	£90.90m
4	Cristiano Ronaldo Centre-Forward	24	09/10		Real Madrid  LaLiga	£84.60m
5	Romelu Lukaku Centre-Forward	24	17/18		Man Utd  Premier League	£76.23m
6	Luis Suárez Centre-Forward	27	14/15		FC Barcelona  LaLiga	£73.55m
7	Virgil van Dijk Centre-Back	26	17/18		Liverpool  Premier League	£70.92m
8	Kevin De Bruyne Attacking Midfield	24	15/16		Man City  Premier League	£68.40m
9	Ángel Di María Right Winger	26	14/15		Man Utd  Premier League	£67.50m
10	Riyad Mahrez Right Winger	27	18/19		Man City  Premier League	£61.02m
11	Álvaro Morata Centre-Forward	24	17/18		Chelsea  Premier League	£59.40m
12	Diego Costa Centre-Forward	29	17/18		Atlético Madrid  LaLiga	£59.40m
13	Aymeric Laporte Centre-Back	23	17/18		Man City  Premier League	£58.50m
14	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Centre-Forward	28	17/18		Arsenal  Premier League	£57.38m
15	Raheem Sterling Right Winger	20	15/16		Man City  Premier League	£57.33m
16	Ángel Di María Right Winger	27	15/16		Paris SG  Ligue 1	£56.70m
17	Naby Keïta Central Midfield	23	18/19		Liverpool  Premier League	£54.00m
18	Oscar Attacking Midfield	25	16/17		SIPG  Super League	£54.00m
19	Anthony Martial Left Winger	19	15/16		Man Utd  Premier League	£54.00m
20	Fred Central Midfield	25	18/19		Man Utd  Premier League	£53.10m
21	Fernando Torres Centre-Forward	26	10/11		Chelsea  Premier League	£52.65m
22	Benjamin Mendy Left-Back	23	17/18		Man City  Premier League	£51.75m
23	Jorginho Defensive Midfield	26	18/19		Chelsea  Premier League	£51.30m
24	John Stones Centre-Back	22	16/17		Man City  Premier League	£50.04m
25	Alexandre Lacazette Centre-Forward	26	17/18		Arsenal  Premier League	£47.70m

 

[mdmost 42999]

Thanks Phil!

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1603]

Alisson is good, but is any keeper really worth that much?  I thought the VVD was silly, but this might really take the cake.

[mdmost 42999]

Probably not but when you're a keeper away from winning the Champions League (and a Salah injury), why not buy the best one that's out there? It's not my money and Liverpool fans have been wanting this kind of ambition from the club for a long time. And VvD is worth every penny. Take a look at Lovren pre and post VvD. He makes Lovren and the entire backfield so much better. 

Edited July 18, 2018 by mdmost

[Jograves 357]

Also, I think LFC are having to pay a premium due to the Salah deal. Roma definitely feels like they were fleeced on that one and probably rightfully so. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

33 minutes ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

Alisson is good, but is any keeper really worth that much?  I thought the VVD was silly, but this might really take the cake.

Worth ain't got nothing to do with it. He's the best available keeper on the market and we need a keeper. 

That's the going rate, so you pay it. Prices aren't going down...

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1603]

24 minutes ago, Jograves said:

Also, I think LFC are having to pay a premium due to the Salah deal. Roma definitely feels like they were fleeced on that one and probably rightfully so. 

I don't know why they'd think they got fleeced.   Salah wasn't putting up huge numbers at Roma, although he was playing behind Dzeko that put up 29 in Salah's last season at Roma.

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1603]

4 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Worth ain't got nothing to do with it. He's the best available keeper on the market and we need a keeper. 

That's the going rate, so you pay it. Prices aren't going down...

Not to nitpick, but the same could have been said for Ederson last year - who's pretty badass in his own right.   I can't remember the price off the top of my head, but I believe city paid about half of LFC just paid.

This is just my opinion but I have strange feeling that Salah may see a Vardy-like fall in production this year.  Nothing to really substantiate it but just a gut feeling.

Edited July 18, 2018 by GlenFromTheMailRoom

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

1 minute ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

Not to nitpick, but the same could have been said for Ederson last year - who's pretty badass in his own right.   I can't remember the price off the top of my head, but I believe city paid about half of LFC just paid.

 

I think the difference there is that Ederson played Benfica vs. Roma. The big question mark was "could he be good in a larger league". 

Announcer: He is

[MoJames 8244]

37 minutes ago, Jograves said:

Also, I think LFC are having to pay a premium due to the Salah deal. Roma definitely feels like they were fleeced on that one and probably rightfully so. 

Everything I've read suggests this is exactly where Roma priced him regardless of the buyer.

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1603]

8 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

I think the difference there is that Ederson played Benfica vs. Roma. The big question mark was "could he be good in a larger league". 

Announcer: He is

If that is indeed the case, any Donnarumma transfer will absolutely shatter what LFC just paid.

For LFC's sake, It's nice to see that they finally dropped Karius.  I just don't understand overpaying for players coming off of WC hype.  James is a perfect example of this.

Edited July 18, 2018 by GlenFromTheMailRoom

[Goo Punch 4275]

58 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Now that Alisson is being reported at €75M, I went ahead and looked up the top transfers in EPL out of curiousity.

 

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1	Philippe Coutinho Attacking Midfield	25	17/18		FC Barcelona  LaLiga	£112.50m
2	Paul Pogba Central Midfield	23	16/17		Man Utd  Premier League	£94.50m
3	Gareth Bale Right Winger	24	13/14		Real Madrid  LaLiga	£90.90m
4	Cristiano Ronaldo Centre-Forward	24	09/10		Real Madrid  LaLiga	£84.60m
5	Romelu Lukaku Centre-Forward	24	17/18		Man Utd  Premier League	£76.23m
6	Luis Suárez Centre-Forward	27	14/15		FC Barcelona  LaLiga	£73.55m
7	Virgil van Dijk Centre-Back	26	17/18		Liverpool  Premier League	£70.92m
8	Kevin De Bruyne Attacking Midfield	24	15/16		Man City  Premier League	£68.40m
9	Ángel Di María Right Winger	26	14/15		Man Utd  Premier League	£67.50m
10	Riyad Mahrez Right Winger	27	18/19		Man City  Premier League	£61.02m
11	Álvaro Morata Centre-Forward	24	17/18		Chelsea  Premier League	£59.40m
12	Diego Costa Centre-Forward	29	17/18		Atlético Madrid  LaLiga	£59.40m
13	Aymeric Laporte Centre-Back	23	17/18		Man City  Premier League	£58.50m
14	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Centre-Forward	28	17/18		Arsenal  Premier League	£57.38m
15	Raheem Sterling Right Winger	20	15/16		Man City  Premier League	£57.33m
16	Ángel Di María Right Winger	27	15/16		Paris SG  Ligue 1	£56.70m
17	Naby Keïta Central Midfield	23	18/19		Liverpool  Premier League	£54.00m
18	Oscar Attacking Midfield	25	16/17		SIPG  Super League	£54.00m
19	Anthony Martial Left Winger	19	15/16		Man Utd  Premier League	£54.00m
20	Fred Central Midfield	25	18/19		Man Utd  Premier League	£53.10m
21	Fernando Torres Centre-Forward	26	10/11		Chelsea  Premier League	£52.65m
22	Benjamin Mendy Left-Back	23	17/18		Man City  Premier League	£51.75m
23	Jorginho Defensive Midfield	26	18/19		Chelsea  Premier League	£51.30m
24	John Stones Centre-Back	22	16/17		Man City  Premier League	£50.04m
25	Alexandre Lacazette Centre-Forward	26	17/18		Arsenal  Premier League	£47.70m

 

 

 

This is the crux of what is my most unpopular argument among my fellow arsenal fans, one that i've held for years:

Arsenal fans are completely delusional with their expectations and their view of the club. We have two signings on that list, one at 17 and the other at 25, yet Arsenal fans expect/demand that Arsenal perennially compete with the likes of city/chelsea/united, when in reality we should be competing with the likes of liverpool and tottenham. every summer our fans scoff at the idea that we could ever hope to sign players like Reus, Muller, Vidal, Dybala, Veratti, etc, and then they turn around and expect us to win the league, while discounting/downplaying finishing top 4 and winning the fa cup. it would be like texas basketball fans expecting/demanding us to go to the elite 8 every year as opposed to perennially vying for the conference title and a favored tourney seed. 

[Goo Punch 4275]

8 minutes ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

If that is indeed the case, any Donnarumma transfer will absolutely shatter what LFC just paid.

man u just paid his $175M release clause in my fifa 18 career mode; life might eventually imitate art on that one.

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1603]

3 minutes ago, Goo Punch said:

This is the crux of what is my most unpopular argument among my fellow arsenal fans, one that i've held for years:

Arsenal fans are completely delusional with their expectations and their view of the club. We have two signings on that list, one at 17 and the other at 25, yet Arsenal fans expect/demand that Arsenal perennially compete with the likes of city/chelsea/united, when in reality we should be competing with the likes of liverpool and tottenham. every summer our fans scoff at the idea that we could ever hope to sign players like Reus, Muller, Vidal, Dybala, Veratti, etc, and then they turn around and expect us to win the league, while discounting/downplaying finishing top 4 and winning the fa cup. it would be like texas basketball fans expecting/demanding us to go to the elite 8 every year as opposed to perennially vying for the conference title and a favored tourney seed. 

Well, yeah.   You're more of an observer than a fan if you don't want your team win championships, especially in a league were you actually get penalized for tanking.   It's pretty well fucking documented that all Arsenal fans hated our transfer policies under Wenger.  

[Jograves 357]

12 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Everything I've read suggests this is exactly where Roma priced him regardless of the buyer.

You're right but what I'm trying to say not very clearly is I don't think Roma were willing to let LFC negotiate at all because of the Salah deal. I could be way off base, but I recall an article during the CL semis about Roma's valuation of Salah and how it would affect future deals. 

 

13 minutes ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

If that is indeed the case, any Donnarumma transfer will absolutely shatter what LFC just paid.

For LFC's sake, It's nice to see that they finally dropped Karius.  I just don't understand overpaying for players coming off of WC hype.  James is a perfect example of this.

LFC have been pursuing Alisson for over a year. HIs WC performance had little, if anything, to do with it. 

[Goo Punch 4275]

4 minutes ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

Well, yeah.   You're more of an observer than a fan if you don't want your team win championships, especially in a league were you actually get penalized for tanking.   It's pretty well fucking documented that all Arsenal fans hated our transfer policies under Wenger.  

what? who said anything about not wanting arsenal to win titles?

[mdmost 42999]

15 minutes ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

If that is indeed the case, any Donnarumma transfer will absolutely shatter what LFC just paid.

For LFC's sake, It's nice to see that they finally dropped Karius.  I just don't understand overpaying for players coming off of WC hype.  James is a perfect example of this.

Pretty sure the price didn't change since last winter when Liverpool approached Roma about Alisson. The World Cup had nothing to do with this price. They knew Liverpool had money to burn after selling Coutinho for a record fee. Liverpool and Klopp were fine with standing pat at the time and not splurging. Then Karius had his struggles and the price is now pretty agreeable to LFC. The initial fee LFC offered was less but Roma quickly swatted that away. So LFC didn't want to lose him to Chelsea. I honestly thought we'd buy Butland from Stoke or some other Karius 2.0 option. 

[MoJames 8244]

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

 They knew Liverpool had money to burn after selling Coutinho for a record fee. 

Confused. Since 17/18

Out

£112.50m - Phil

£25m - Sahko

In 

£70.92m - Virgil van Dijk

£37.80m - Mohamed Salah

£34.20m - Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

£54.00m - Naby Keïta

£13.23m - Xherdan Shaqiri

£40.50m - Fabinho

£62 - Alisson

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Have to include that SWEEEET SWEEEET Champions League money.

[Jograves 357]

4 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Confused. Since 17/18

Out

£112.50m - Phil

£25m - Sahko

In 

£70.92m - Virgil van Dijk

£37.80m - Mohamed Salah

£34.20m - Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

£54.00m - Naby Keïta

£13.23m - Xherdan Shaqiri

£40.50m - Fabinho

£62 - Alisson

Klopp's net spend since he took over was well in the black before this summer. He'll be at about -£140m after Alisson. They've been stockpiling cash and are burning it now.

I expect a few sales before this window closes too. Nothing that'll take a huge dent out of the £140m but we'll see. I think Fekir still happens too. 

[MoJames 8244]

3 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Have to include that SWEEEET SWEEEET Champions League money.

£57 million?

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

2 minutes ago, MoJames said:

£57 million?

Just in shirt sales ALONE.

 

But seriously. There are others you are forgetting and I'm sure we'll sell off a few more before the window is done.

Edited July 18, 2018 by Cheeseweasel

[mdmost 42999]

Keita, Salah and Ox were all well before Coutinho was sold in January. LFC wasn't trying to recoup money with Coutinho's sale. They knew Barca was foolish enough to pay that much. 

Edited July 18, 2018 by mdmost

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

Transfer inflation needs to be taken into account when interpreting the list of highest priced players. Rio ferdinand for £30m+ in 2000 would be like a £200m transfer fee today. Same with Buffon for €50m back then. 

Edited July 18, 2018 by Firemans4Horn

[MoJames 8244]

I was just simply stating the comment about using Phil's payout to purchase Alisson is asinine.

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1603]

Not sure where Klopp was planning to deploy Ox this year, but looks like he's going to be out for a majority of the season according to reports.

[406W30th 1111]

10 hours ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

If that is indeed the case, any Donnarumma transfer will absolutely shatter what LFC just paid.

For LFC's sake, It's nice to see that they finally dropped Karius.  I just don't understand overpaying for players coming off of WC hype.  James is a perfect example of this.

Alisson had about as quiet a WC as you could imagine. His (admittedly inflated) transfer fee has nothing to do with the WC.

 

 

[MoJames 8244]

Rugani to CFC appears close.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

32 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Rugani to CFC appears close.

If so, solid move for CFC. Imagine what he's learned by playing with Chiellini. 

[maninblack 7974]

He's had a weird career at Juve. He was touted as the heir apparent at CB but never got a lot of time there. Loads of talent but needs a manager that trusts him.

[MoJames 8244]

Some smoke around Pjanic to CFC in the Chelsea thread.  I think it's unlikely as I don't think Rugani, Higuan (which appears more likely each day) and Pjanic will all be sold from Juventus to CFC.

But if we somehow held onto Hazard and got Pjanic with Jorginho and Kante already in the midfield, we might not ever lose the ball.

[maninblack 7974]

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

Are we not going to talk about the Pablo Aranguiz signing? Massive stuff.

On a more serious note, sounds like Napoli is trying to get Cavani. Would be an interesting fit, though it would make sense for him to go and balance the books in an area that PSG has a ton of talent.