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Vic Mackey

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Maybe they still buy it under the table if it is cheaper? I am sure when it was legalized, they started taxing it, making it more expensive.

I am quite certain with these online setups the states will regulate and control, your money will be taxed and taken out of your winnings before it is transferred to you. I am not interested in that at all.

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Vic Mackey

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4 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

I have no interest in giving my credit card to an offshore bookmaker.  I get that for you and many others this is an insignificant obstacle that you have no problem overcoming to place a wager.  I think I'm in a rather large population of people that would occasionally gamble, but will literally stop at the first obstacle.

I also don't do the credit card to offshore bookies. I use my local bookie and no credit card information is ever exchanged. It is all Paypal and Venmo so that is the medium of exchanging the money. Which is great for me.

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1 hour ago, Gene Parmesan said:

If you define gambling in the broadest sense and include stuff like friendly wagers and office brackets, probably not many.  But a lot of people (like me) don't gamble because it's illegal.  Not based on some moral obligation of being lawful, but simply because it's not front in center in the mainstream.  I don't care how easy/safe it is to find a local bookie or setup online offshore stuff.  I have no urge to do those things.  I would however place a bet in store or something similar to any other impulse / scratch off / lottery purchase.

I don't think the casual gambler is who they are really after though.  At least from my POV I would only place a handful of bets a year.  I would assume they plan on converting plenty of gamblers from their current setup.  Do people still by weed under the table in states where it's been legalized at the same rate as before?

Cigarettes should be illegal.

 

Some folks just can't say no...

 

I ( respectfully) disagree with this mindset.

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But you can already do that....
It is a pretty big pain to fund an offshore book. You gotta get recipient info for some Filipino flunkie and moneygram through Walmart/cvs/etc. Systems are down a lot and those store employees suck. It is pretty ghetto shit for most of us gringos, but I can't imagine not having the electronic interface (monitoring line changes, teasing, parlays, last minute bets), so Benny the bookie is a no go for me.

I can see the allure of a coinstar type kiosk at the HEB.
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What pisses me off about Texas lawmakers is they will not even allow us to vote on whether to make it legal or not. Multiple bills have been presented to allow casino type gambling in Texas but they never make it out of committee.

I don't gamble much but would go to a casino occasionally if I did not have to drive out of state to do so.

Fuck those assholes for not letting the people decide.  

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2 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

I have no idea what I said in my post that made you think I was of this mindset either. 

You said you don't gamble because it's not in front of you, readily available.  I inferred that you would have some uncontrollable urge to gamble should a casino be built in close proximity to your residence. Maybe I took it wrong, but it's the way your post read to me.

It's like my stance on marijuana.  I would vote to legalize it, but just because it's out there, it doesn't mean I'm keeping a bale of it in the garage for personal use.

 

Let the individual decide.  If they abuse it or break the law with regard to responsible use, then prosecute the living hell out of them.

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I live in north Texas so Winstar is basically right up the road.  I would absolutely vote to legalize gambling and weed.  My point was I have no desire to overcome the first obstacle to illegally bet on sports, so I don't.  If that obstacle wasn't present I would place a few bets a year just like I purchase a few random impulse items per year.  The whole context started when Vic asked who doesn't bet on sports because it's illegal because his plan was to keep doing it illegally to avoid taxes.  My point was that there are plenty of people that don't gamble, but don't oppose legalized gambling or drugs.  They just don't have the desire for it enough to overcome the illegal barrier of access.

As far as the moral stance of people not being able to handle it, I say screw them.  Darwinism and all.  The more people that fall the better I look for still standing is my POV.

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