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The Buffalo Bills were involved in the trades that netted KC Mahomes in 2017 and Worthy this year.

Bills ended up with good drafts in the years involved in the 2017 trade:
2017: 3 pro-bowlers (White, Dawkins, Milano) and 3 more guys who made the roster (Jones, Peterman, Vallejo)
2018: 3 pro-bowlers (Allen, Edmunds, Teller) and 4 more roster guys (Phillips, Johnson, Neal, McCloud
Bills traded 2017.10 (Mahomes) for 2017.27, 2017.91, and 2018.22.  They used their own 2018 first round pick (21) to ultimately trade up to 7 - Josh Allen.  (21 -> 12 -> 7). They used the pick from the Chiefs to trade up for Edmunds.  There are many other transactions involved, but  those were the main pieces.

In 2024, Bills traded 2024.28, 2024.133, 2024.248 for what ended up as 2024.33, 2024.95, 2024.141, 2024.221.
Chiefs drafted Worthy, and 2nd team CB, and a backup G.
Bills drafted WR Keon Coleman (starter), 2nd team DT, 2nd team C, and a backup T on IR.

The bills had the 6'4" Coleman higher on their draft board.  He caught 51% of his targets for 29 receptions, 556 yards, and 4 TD.  Zero impact in the running game.
KC's Worthy caught 61% of his targets for 59 receptions, 638 yards, and 6 TD - and 3 more TD rushing.  
Worthy made an impact in the playoffs.  Coleman did not.

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3 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

First Longhorn to score a TD in the Superbowl (according to random shit on my fb)

He's also the first Longhorn to store 2 TDs in the Superbowl.

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pretty sick rookie highlight reel. he’s the first sub-4.3 WR who’s an actual football player. pretty special. 

 

note: i’m not dismissing guys like bob hayes and lam jones, just speaking of the modern combine era.

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i wonder how many people are going to see this thread bumped and immediately worry that Xavier has been jerking off on massage tables or driving 120 mph through dallas. 🤔 the offseason, amirite?

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2 hours ago, tbone_ said:

Did Lam Jones run that fast?

Apparently he ran a (hand-timed) 9.85 sec 100m, so my guess is "yes".  X has elite football speed, but that's elite speed period for Lam.  He was on the gold medal winning 4x100 team at the Olympics.

BUT, different conditions (turf vs track, different footgear, etc.).

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19 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Yea I knew he won the gold on the relay team. Didn’t remember a forty that fast.

Dude was fast for sure.

40 yard dash was formally incorporated into the combine in 1985, so it wasn't around back then. 

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On 2/20/2025 at 11:43 AM, jimmyjazz said:

Apparently he ran a (hand-timed) 9.85 sec 100m, so my guess is "yes".  X has elite football speed, but that's elite speed period for Lam.  He was on the gold medal winning 4x100 team at the Olympics.

BUT, different conditions (turf vs track, different footgear, etc.).

I timed the TD return and he did that in under 12 seconds even while moving laterally and slowing down at the end.

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11 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

I timed the TD return and he did that in under 12 seconds even while moving laterally and slowing down at the end.

The punt return against BYU?  If so, that was 74 yards (67.7 m).  Yes, zig-zagging.  I don't know how to compare that to a sprint.  Maybe top end speed?

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

The punt return against BYU?  If so, that was 74 yards (67.7 m).  Yes, zig-zagging.  I don't know how to compare that to a sprint.  Maybe top end speed?

no, the one by JLJ against SMU posted here,  103 yards but I timed it endzone to endzone

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2 hours ago, TexasEd said:

no, the one by JLJ against SMU posted here,  103 yards but I timed it endzone to endzone

Oh, sorry.  I thought you were talking about X.

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Interesting instagram story

He posted videos of Blue and Bond running their 40s with the added caption “respect those who came before you.”

Guess he felt slighted by their comments

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On 2/20/2025 at 12:43 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Apparently he ran a (hand-timed) 9.85 sec 100m, so my guess is "yes".  X has elite football speed, but that's elite speed period for Lam.  He was on the gold medal winning 4x100 team at the Olympics.

BUT, different conditions (turf vs track, different footgear, etc.).

You sure that wasn't a 100 yard time?  I don't think anyone was running sub-10 second 100 meters until a roided up Ben Johnson was doing it around 1987 or 88.

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On 2/20/2025 at 3:15 PM, Derka said:

 

Yeah, I was at this game.  Video doesn't do it justice -- when Johnny "Lam" received any kickoff the crowd was electric.  Unbelievable how quickly he separated on that play and finished that TD return!!! 

Still believe "Lam's" speed was elite -- even faster than Worthy.  🤘

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9 hours ago, 83Horn said:

You sure that wasn't a 100 yard time?  I don't think anyone was running sub-10 second 100 meters until a roided up Ben Johnson was doing it around 1987 or 88.

No, it was in meters. 
Back then a world class time in the 100 yard dash was 9.2 seconds….give or take .1.

JLJ’s most famous run was when he anchored his high school mile relay team in the State track & field championship finals. 
I was there and still cannot believe what he did to win that race. 
Y’all can look it up.

 

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NM, here it is:

https://www.texasfootball.com/hof-johnny-lam-jones?ref=search
 
In that  race, after dropping the baton at the third exchange, Johnny picked it up and started running from 30 or so yards behind the pack. He wound up passing them to win the race for Lampasas. His anchor time was clocked at 43.8 - which was unheard of anywhere in the track & field world at the time 49 years ago.

He later set a UT record in the 100 yard dash at 9.21. 
His 100 meter time was relatively slow at 10.14.

 

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4 hours ago, Armybrat said:

His 100 meter time was relatively slow at 10.14.

Perspective:  the best 100 m at UIL last year (across all classes) was 10.19 sec.  That's nearly 5 decades later.

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On 3/2/2025 at 7:43 AM, Armybrat said:

Note the empty seats in the endzone “knothole” section….and the lack of Burnt Orange attire in the student sections.

Why was that section empty / what was up with the lack of burnt orange?

Was everyone off having wine and cheese?

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On 3/3/2025 at 12:26 PM, Park Gothic said:

Why was that section empty / what was up with the lack of burnt orange?

Was everyone off having wine and cheese?

I was at UT from 84 thru 88. IIRC wearing burnt orange was not a big thing then. Certainly nothing like it is today on gameday.

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In the 80’s it was fashionable to wear a button down shirt, jeans and boots to the game at least in the student section. Orange t-shirts were not seen much. 
 

I remember buddies and I in Fort Worth for a Texas/TCU game and some ladies were going with us who attending Purdue I believe. We showed up to pick them up in our normal game attire and they got in the car wearing sweatpants and tshirts.  We were appalled. 

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13 hours ago, CycleTex87 said:

In the 80’s it was fashionable to wear a button down shirt, jeans and boots to the game at least in the student section. Orange t-shirts were not seen much. 
 

I remember buddies and I in Fort Worth for a Texas/TCU game and some ladies were going with us who attending Purdue I believe. We showed up to pick them up in our normal game attire and they got in the car wearing sweatpants and tshirts.  We were appalled. 

More like Purdon't amirite?

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On 3/2/2025 at 7:13 AM, Armybrat said:

JLJ’s most famous run was when he anchored his high school mile relay team in the State track & field championship finals. 

I was there and still cannot believe what he did to win that race. 
Y’all can look it up.

I am friends with one of his teammates on that relay team. They still speak of Lam with a lot of love. 
 

On 3/4/2025 at 7:52 PM, CycleTex87 said:

In the 80’s it was fashionable to wear a button down shirt, jeans and boots to the game at least in the student section. Orange t-shirts were not seen much. 

Really, no schools wore their colors too exclusively. People just didn't think about it. I almost always wore a Longhorn shirt, but it was white, gray, navy, or sometimes burnt orange. Marketing wasn’t what it is. And Mack does deserve a lot of credit for that here. But in the earlier years, a lot of people wore suits and dresses to games, so those obviously weren’t going to be in school colors. Just different times. 

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4 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

And Mack does deserve a lot of credit for that here.

"Come early, be loud, stay late, and wear orange."

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The deep association with the color may have something to do with the fact that Royal’s squads are the most celebrated in Longhorn history, up there with Mack Brown’s, who it should be noted, waged his own campaign to get Texas fans, long stereotyped as lackluster, to “Come early, be loud, stay late, and,” the slogan crucially added, “wear orange.”

Texas Monthly

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I do recall people mocking John Mackovic for wearing a navy Texas sweatshirt on the sidelines once. May have been the game he got run over by Tony Brackens and got a concussion. It was right around the same time. 

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

"Come early, be loud, stay late, and wear orange."

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The deep association with the color may have something to do with the fact that Royal’s squads are the most celebrated in Longhorn history, up there with Mack Brown’s, who it should be noted, waged his own campaign to get Texas fans, long stereotyped as lackluster, to “Come early, be loud, stay late, and,” the slogan crucially added, “wear orange.”

Texas Monthly

In the late 60's-early 70's, UT (students, staff & admin) represented ~ 15-20% of Austin's population, which had a disproportionate amount of school kids.  Other than game days, seeing non-UT fans was pretty rare. 

Now UT's share of the Austin metro is something like 65,000/2,300,000, or ~ 3%.

Not only is Austin a much smaller portion of Texas fans, there are enough people here from other schools and places to have watch parties around town on game days.

It used to be the super majority of people in Austin were from Austin, you just assumed everybody was from around here. Now, I just assume everybody is from somewhere else.

I wear more Texas gear now that I did when I was a student, no hair being the biggest reason. I always take Texas stuff when I travel, and see it just about everywhere we go.

I always liked the way people responded when I told them I'm from Austin. 100%.

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